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Weird Little Guys

Weird Little Guys is a weekly show about the worst people you’ve never heard of, taking you beyond the headlines to get to know the race warriors and aspiring terrorists trying to unravel the fabric of our society. Weaving together the origin stories of modern American white supremacist groups and the crimes that land their members in court, independent journalist Molly Conger exposes the monsters for what they really are – some weird guy. Whether they’re conspiring to build bombs or serving swastika shaped cookies at a dinner party, the weird little guys trying to destroy America are a little less scary with their masks off.

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The Lost Episode: Nazis for Ron Paul: Curtis Maynard, Pt. 2 Nov 20, 2025

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In 2007, a white nationalist known for his addiction to causing drama claimed he saw Ron Paul at a nazi supper club. Ron Paul supporters, including those on nazi message boards, pushed back. The feud that ensued led to Curtis Maynard's fall from grace as a holocaust denial blogger - he'd been keeping a secret from his readers.
Sources:
https://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/26/us/politics/ron-paul-disowns-extremists-views-but-doesnt-disavow-the-support.html

https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hate-watch/ron-pauls-new-organization-reportedly-stacked-extremists/

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2008/jan/16/guiltbyassociation

https://web.archive.org/web/20071226150527/themedium.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/12/24/the-ron-paul-vid-lash/

https://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/27/pageoneplus/corrections.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20071221222229/http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=28341_Neo-Nazis_Say-_Ron_Paul_is_One_of_Us&only

https://www.heraldtribune.com/story/news/local/sarasota/2018/10/01/alleged-white-nationalist-peter-gemma-resigns-from-sarasota-gop-executive-committee/9732609007/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/2005/04/07/for-holocaust-denier-theres-no-telling/057d4471-7668-4bf2-ba59-6e7f9666bb18/

http://new.wymaninstitute.org/2004/12/former-senior-aide-to-pat-buchanan-spoke-at-holocaust-deniers-meeting/

https://www.mediamatters.org/white-nationalism/white-nationalist-writer-peter-gemma-resigns-sarasota-gop-executive-committee

https://www.c-span.org/program/public-affairs-event/conservativism-and-foreign-policy/182250

https://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/21/world/americas/21iht-hate.4.17140643.html
https://roanoke.com/news/local/nazi-leader-bill-white----in-his-own-words/article_7e5c7e03-bdcf-5542-a6be-0433ba2d7aee.html
https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/assault-gets-even-ugliercontroversy-escalates-over-sexual-violence-campus/

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CZM Rewind: Revisionist History Riverboat Cruise: Curtis Maynard, Pt. 1 Nov 20, 2025

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This episode originally ran on January 23, 2025. The second half of the story had to be taken down a few weeks later. That episode has now been rewritten and re-recorded. Before you listen to the newly released version of the lost episode, here's the original part one to refresh your memory.
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In 2010, a rising star in the small world of holocaust denial blogging murdered his ex-wife and then took his own life. This first chapter of his story follows his path from a troubled career as a registered nurse to his growing fame as a white supremacist blogger.
Sources:
https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Lawyer-Lake-Jackson-murder-suicide-followed-1710794.php

http://www.thenation.com/article/arrows-war

https://www.splcenter.org/resources/extremist-files/americas-promise-ministries/

https://www.reaganlibrary.gov/archives/speech/proclamation-5555-national-hungarian-freedom-fighters-day-1986

https://library.hungaricana.hu/en/view/Szittyakurt_USAHUN_1986/?pg=39&layout=s
https://www.bocskairadio.org/en/an-interview-with-akos-l-nagy-president-of-the-american-hungarian-federation/

Katalin Hasulyó-Pintz. Doctoral dissertation, Identity Preservation and Diaspora Relations in the USA: the Hungarian Community of New Brunswick, New Jersey. Eötvös Loránd University, Budapest 2020
https://collections.ushmm.org/oh_findingaids/RG-50.573.0005_tcn_en.pdf

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1465015471074263044.html

https://www.yadvashem.org/docs/international-commission-on-romania-holocaust.html

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CZM Rewind: An Accidental Nazi Rally Nov 13, 2025

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In 2017, an anti-Muslim nonprofit crowd-sourced the organization of a nationwide series of rallies. Many of the people who stepped up to help turned out to be well known white supremacists.

Original Air Date: 2.13.25

Sources:
https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2017/05/portland_suspect_in_2_slayings.html
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/may/27/portland-double-murder-white-supremacist-muslim-hate-speech
https://islamophobia.org/special-reports/the-hate-that-act-for-america-wrought/
https://islamophobia.org/islamophobic-organizations/act-for-america/
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/davidnoriega/meet-the-charming-terrifying-face-of-the-anti-islam-lobby
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/03/americas-most-anti-muslim-activist-is-welcome-at-the-white-house/520323/

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Disorganized Crime, Pt. 4 Nov 06, 2025

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In the final chapter of his life, Frank Smith really did start the whites only church he first proposed to George Lincoln Rockwell.

Sources:

https://www.middlebury.edu/institute/academics/centers-initiatives/ctec/ctec-publications/christian-identitys-new-role-extreme-right

https://gnet-research.org/2023/05/10/the-revitalisation-of-christian-identity-content-on-youtube-twitter-and-tiktok/

https://www.upi.com/Archives/1992/01/31/Ex-Rhode-Island-mayor-sentenced-for-racketeering/5824696834000/

https://law.resource.org/pub/us/case/reporter/F2/975/975.F2d.17.92-1180.html

https://law.justia.com/cases/nebraska/supreme-court/1989/946-0.html

https://www.ellsworthamerican.com/news/legacy-of-the-commander/article_c5ebf480-2fef-536c-aee8-11a2925441a0.html

https://www.providencejournal.com/story/news/2016/08/12/from-malinowski-archives-sarault-linked-financially-to-pair-with-mob-nazi-ties/26059574007/

Sunshine, Spencer. (2024). Neo-Nazi terrorism and countercultural fascism: The Origins and Afterlife of James Mason’s Siege. Taylor & Francis.

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Disorganized Crime, Pt. 3 Oct 30, 2025

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In 1965, Frank Smith was laying low in Maine after a failed mob hit nearly killed him. He reappeared a few months later in Virginia, acting as a body guard for his new best friend, the commander of the American Nazi Party.

Sources:

Schmaltz, William H. (2013). For Race And Nation: George Lincoln Rockwell and the American Nazi Party. River's Bend Press

Simonelli, Frederick J. (1999). American Fuehrer: George Lincoln Rockwell and the American Nazi Party. Urbana: University of Illinois Press.

Rosenthal, A. M.; Gelb, Arthur (1967). One More Victim: The Life and Death of an American-Jewish Nazi. New York: New American Library

https://omim.org/entry/253300

https://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/10/us/ex-fbi-agent-is-charged-in-a-1981-gangland-killing.html

https://fbistudies.com/2016/06/14/the-paul-rico-case/

https://www.congress.gov/event/107th-congress/house-event/LC16939/text

https://www.congress.gov/committee-report/108th-congress/house-report/414/1

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ex-fbi-agent-charged-in-mob-hit/

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The Other Rockwell Oct 28, 2025

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George Lincoln Rockwell was a nazi. Norman Rockwell was a painter. They didn't have much in common at all, but people can't seem to stop mixing them up.
Sources:
https://library.washu.edu/news/norman-rockwell-and-race-complicating-rockwells-legacy/

https://library.cqpress.com/cqalmanac/document.php?id=cqal66-1301767

https://www.nytimes.com/1966/10/06/archives/us-aide-attacks-bill-to-curb-riots-doar-in-house-testimony-doubts.html

https://www.smh.com.au/national/spy-or-nazi-20120331-1w52i.html

Berger, Alan L. Review of American Fuehrer: George Lincoln Rockwell and the American Nazi Party, and: Troubled Memory: Anne Levy, the Holocaust, and David Duke's Louisiana. Holocaust and Genocide Studies, vol. 17 no. 1, 2003, p. 180-185
Gallagher, V., & Zagacki, K. S. (2005). Visibility and Rhetoric: The Power of Visual Images in Norman Rockwell’s Depictions of Civil Rights. Quarterly Journal of Speech, 91(2), 175–200.

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Disorganized Crime, Pt. 2 Oct 23, 2025

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When Frank Smith got out of prison in 1964, he went right back to working for the New England mafia. He also joined the American Nazi Party. And he had a dream that the two organizations could work together.
Sources:
https://newenglandhistoricalsociety.com/the-boston-irish-gang-wars-terrify-a-city/

https://www.nytimes.com/1965/11/04/archives/the-boston-gang-war-a-deadly-web-of-revenge.html

https://mattofboston.com/boston-gang-wars-the-first-irish-gang-war-mclaughlin-v-mclean-introduction/

https://golocal24.com/golocal-launches-the-patriarca-papers-the-fbi-files-on-the-man-that-led-the-new-england-crime-family-for-nearly-50-years/

https://jimcrowmuseum.ferris.edu/pdfs-docs/origins/ms-littest55.pdf

https://idahopotato.com/dr-potato/length-and-circumference-of-a-potato

https://utia.tennessee.edu/cpa/wp-content/uploads/sites/106/2020/10/CPA-222.pdf

Simonelli, Frederick J. (1999). American Fuehrer: George Lincoln Rockwell and the American Nazi Party. Urbana: University of Illinois Press

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Disorganized Crime, Pt. 1 Oct 16, 2025

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Before he joined the American Nazi Party in 1965, Frank Smith was already a career criminal working for the New England mafia.
Sources:
https://www.nytimes.com/1952/05/06/archives/friend-of-sutton-seized-as-suspect-in-schuster-death-armed-burglar.html
https://www.ellsworthamerican.com/news/legacy-of-the-commander/article_c5ebf480-2fef-536c-aee8-11a2925441a0.html

Simonelli, Frederick J. (1999). American Fuehrer: George Lincoln Rockwell and the American Nazi Party. Urbana: University of Illinois Press.
https://law.justia.com/cases/massachusetts/supreme-court/1961/342-mass-180-2.html

https://time.com/archive/6618452/people-visions/

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George Lincoln Rockwell's Coffin Flop Oct 09, 2025

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When the commander of the American Nazi Party died, he left instructions with his successor. He wanted the military funeral he was entitled to as an American veteran. It didn't go well.
Sources:
https://snccdigital.org/events/protests-danville-virginia/
https://www.thejc.com/life/lawyer-who-helped-a-loving-couple-nn57y8ct
https://www.newsobserver.com/news/nation-world/national/article120224913.html
https://www.abajournal.com/magazine/article/philip_hirschkop_peta_social_justice
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2017/08/21/the-shadow-of-an-assassinated-american-nazi-commander-hangs-over-charlottesville/
Schmaltz, William H. (2013). For Race And Nation: George Lincoln Rockwell and the American Nazi Party. River's Bend Press
Simonelli, Frederick J. (1999). American Fuehrer: George Lincoln Rockwell and the American Nazi Party. Urbana: University of Illinois Press.

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Death of a Demagogue, Pt. 3.5 Oct 03, 2025

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In 1976, the recently paroled assassin went back to prison after being arrested in Charlottesville. He was acquitted on the charge of being naked in a stranger's living room, but he'd violated his parole. He's tried to stay out of the spotlight ever since. Decades later, his son wrote that he was a changed man. His comments after the 2017 Unite the Right rally say otherwise.
Sources:
Schmaltz, William H. (2013). For Race And Nation: George Lincoln Rockwell and the American Nazi Party. River's Bend Press
Simonelli, Frederick J. (1999). American Fuehrer: George Lincoln Rockwell and the American Nazi Party. Urbana: University of Illinois Press.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2017/08/21/the-shadow-of-an-assassinated-american-nazi-commander-hangs-over-charlottesville/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1996/12/15/the-accounting/22c75ac3-d752-4339-bccb-dcce7e3a999f/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1997/07/18/man-found-guilty-in-15-year-old-murder/95c86fe6-2f03-4043-a7f3-5d49c89c2b13/

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