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    Voices of Search // A Search Engine Optimization (SEO) & Content Marketing Podcast

    Dive deep into the ever-changing world of content and search engine marketing. Discover actionable strategies and learn ways to gain insights through data that will help you navigate the topsy-turvy world of SEO.

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    Youtube SEO Is SEO 5 Years Ago? May 16, 2025
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    Is YouTube SEO just like traditional SEO from five years ago? Elliot Tsai, Senior Growth Manager of SEO and ASO at TextNow, debunks this oversimplification while highlighting the strategic overlap. He explains how YouTube's visual nature and engagement metrics create an 80/20 similarity ratio with traditional SEO, emphasizing how subscriber signals function as topic authority indicators. Tsai recommends leveraging YouTube's filtering capabilities to identify trending content patterns that can enhance traditional SEO briefs. Show Notes

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    • Benjamin Shapiro: Website // LinkedIn // Twitter

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    Top Pick For Internal Team To Partner With? May 15, 2025
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    In the quest for effective SEO partnerships, data teams emerge as the critical ally. Elliot Tsai, Senior Growth Manager of SEO and ASO at TextNow, explains why data teams should be every SEO professional's first choice for collaboration. He emphasizes how understanding data implementation logic prevents misalignment between analytics and strategy, while highlighting that data expertise enables SEOs to validate information rather than blindly accepting what's provided. Show Notes

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    • Elliot Tsai: Website // LinkedIn
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    What’s Your First Step To Partner With CRM? May 14, 2025
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    Partnering with CRM teams requires strategic alignment. Elliot Tsai, Senior Growth Manager of SEO and ASO at TextNow, shares his approach to cross-functional collaboration. He emphasizes understanding CRM user journeys and templates first, then identifying content gaps where SEO articles can enhance customer communications, ultimately creating a more cohesive user experience across touchpoints. Show Notes

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    • Elliot Tsai: Website // LinkedIn
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    • Benjamin Shapiro: Website // LinkedIn // Twitter

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    Is Paid Search Is The Most Important Marketing Channel To Partner With For SEO? May 13, 2025
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    In this episode, Elliot Tsai, Senior Growth Manager of SEO and ASO at TextNow, challenges the notion that paid search should be SEO's primary partner channel. Tsai argues that all marketing channels deserve equal partnership as they each represent different parts of the user funnel. He explains that paid search often receives preferential treatment simply because it delivers faster results, while SEO's value manifests more gradually but with similar impact. Show Notes

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    • Elliot Tsai: Website // LinkedIn
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    How To Create A Holistic "Land And Expand" SEO Strategy May 12, 2025
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    Marketing channels often operate in silos, limiting SEO success. Elliot Tsai, Senior Growth Manager of SEO and ASO at TextNow, shares his cross-channel expertise from his background in paid search and influencer marketing. He demonstrates how to operate SEO like a paid channel with revenue-driven forecasting, partner strategically with data teams to establish unified measurement frameworks, and leverage social media's trend detection capabilities to identify emerging opportunities before they appear in search data. Show Notes

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    • Elliot Tsai: Website // LinkedIn
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    Will AI Systems Be Able To Fully Diagnose Traffic Drops And Identify Fundamental Issues? May 10, 2025
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    Can AI fully diagnose SEO traffic drops? Sam Torres from Gray Dot Co examines the limitations of AI in technical SEO diagnostics. She explains why AI can identify traffic declines but struggles to pinpoint fundamental issues, emphasizing that most SEO problems stem from multiple factors rather than single causes. Torres highlights the importance of human experience in comprehensive troubleshooting and avoiding the "one solution" trap that both AI and junior SEOs often fall into. Show Notes

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    Game Plan To Fix A 40% Traffic Drop Following A Core Algorithm Update May 09, 2025
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    When a core algorithm update causes a 40% traffic drop, swift action is required. Sam Torres from Gray Dot Co shares her approach to diagnosing content quality and relevancy issues that impact top-of-funnel performance. She emphasizes the importance of transparent communication with leadership, backing claims with comprehensive data analysis, and gathering insights from community platforms like Reddit and YouTube to identify content gaps.Show Notes

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    More Sudden Traffic Drops Caused By Technical Issues Or Content-Related Problems? May 08, 2025
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    When do traffic drops signal technical issues versus content problems? Sam Torres from Gray Dot Co examines the distinct patterns behind sudden versus gradual SEO declines. She explains how technical issues typically cause abrupt two-week traffic drops, while content problems lead to slower, more business-impacting declines, and reveals how website migrations often trigger Google to reevaluate a site's relevance. Show Notes

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    • Sam Torres: Website // LinkedIn
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    • Benjamin Shapiro: Website // LinkedIn // Twitter

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    Are We Moving To A Constant State Of Change Search? May 07, 2025
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    Google's algorithm update patterns are evolving rapidly. Sam Torres, SEO expert from Gray Dot Co, examines whether distinguishable core updates will continue or if search is moving toward a constant state of change. Torres predicts distinguishable updates will remain for the next 12-18 months before transitioning to more continuous evolution, similar to what happened after the introduction of RankBrain. Show Notes

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    • Sam Torres: Website // LinkedIn
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    • Benjamin Shapiro: Website // LinkedIn // Twitter

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    Will There Will Be More Official Core Updates In 2025 Than Any Other Year? May 06, 2025
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    Core updates are becoming more frequent in Google's algorithm ecosystem. Sam Torres from Gray Dot Co predicts 2025 will see more official core updates than any previous year. This lightning round discussion examines the increasing pace of Google's algorithm changes and what SEO professionals should anticipate as these updates become a more regular part of the search landscape. Show Notes

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    • Sam Torres: Website // LinkedIn
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    • Benjamin Shapiro: Website // LinkedIn // Twitter

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