Two Point Conversion with BYU Football: A Gospel Discussion Podcast

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D&C 125-128 with Charlie Miska Nov 03, 2025

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In this episode, hosts Connor Pay and Chase Roberts welcome special guest Charlie Miska, BYU running back, to the show. Charlie shares his inspiring journey from Northern Virginia to BYU, including the challenges of walking on to the team, his memorable first touchdown, and the importance of hard work, faith, and preparation. The hosts and Charlie also reflect on recent games and lessons from the Doctrine and Covenants, including doubling down on Christlike virtues and keeping faithful records.

D&C 124 with Faith Kisakye Oct 27, 2025

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Faith Kisakye, a BYU Pathway student from Uganda, joins host Connor Pay for an amazing episode of the podcast. aith shares her inspiring journey as the first BYU Pathway student to offer a prayer at a BYU football game, recounting the impact it had on her life, her family, and the broader community. The conversation explores Faith’s experiences with faith, perseverance, and missionary work, as well as her involvement with the BYU Pathway program. Together, Connor and Faith discuss lessons from Doctrine and Covenants Section 124, the importance of temples, and the blessings of staying true to one’s beliefs despite challenges.

D&C 121-123 with Jimmer Fredette Oct 20, 2025

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BYU Basketball legend Jimmer Fredette joins Connor Pay and Chase Roberts on this edition of the podcast. Jimmer talks about his basketball career and his current role as Managing Director for USA Basketball’s 3x3 program. The conversation covers the intensity of the BYU/Utah rivalry, the challenges and triumphs of competitive sports, and the lessons learned from overcoming adversity—including Jimmer’s Olympic experience. The group also talks about how God's work is going forward and that it's up to us whether we want to be part of His team.

D&C 115-120 with Hunter Clegg Oct 13, 2025

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Join hosts Connor Pay and Chase Roberts for another episode of Two Point Conversion, where they welcome in special guest BYU Defensive End Hunter Clegg. Clegg talks about why he initially committed to Utah before his mission for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and then decided to play for BYU after his mission. He mentions how BYU's football coaches care for the players outside of football. The conversation then dives deep into the challenges and rewards of balancing athletics, academics, and spiritual growth, with candid stories about team culture, service, and the impact of faith on and off the field. The trio also talk about using the proper name of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, how God asks imperfect people to lead, and new beginnings after mistakes.

D&C 111-114 with Taylor Halverson Oct 06, 2025

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Entrepreneur and former BYU professor Taylor Halverson joins Chase Roberts and Connor Pay in this episode of Two Conversion to talk about how he's trying to empower people to build a better future. Taylor believes the only way to become like God is to learn continually. The trio then discusses how God accepts in our follies, knows us deeply, and can lead us to be better. Chase, Connor, and Taylor then elaborate on how God has opened doors for them in the past and how he will open doors for them in the future.

D&C 109-110 with Brian Ashton Sep 29, 2025

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President Brian Ashton of BYU-Pathway Worldwide joins Connor Pay and Chase Roberts for episode 50 of Two Point Conversion. President Ashton discusses how the education program continues to spread across the globe, bringing people closer to Jesus Christ, regardless of the denomination they belong to. The trio explores how BYU Football players are stepping up as mentors, helping students build confidence and prepare for future employment. They also dive into gospel principles, discussing the importance of priesthood keys, temple worship, and how keeping covenants with God empowers us to overcome sin and live with greater purpose.

D&C 106-108 with Professor Bradley Agle Sep 22, 2025

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BYU Professor Brad Agle joins Connor Pay and Chase Roberts on this episode of Two Point Conversion for a thoughtful conversation on leadership and service. As a Professor of Ethics and Leadership at the Marriott School of Business, Agle brings deep insight from his research on CEOs and church leaders. He also co-authored The Bishop Book, which explores the unique spiritual and emotional experiences of Bishops in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Together, the trio reflects on the joy and meaning found in faithfully serving in church callings. Drawing from scripture and personal experience, they tackle a profound question: Is The Church of Jesus Christ a good organization?

D&C 102-105 with Jarom Jordan Sep 15, 2025

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BYU SportsNation host Jarom Jordan joins Connor Pay and Tanner Wall on this edition of Two Point Conversion. The conversation begins with Tanner talking about the stoutness of the Cougar's defense and Connor’s contentious and humorous relationship with football referees. Jarom then states The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as an inspired start-up - emphasizing the importance of learning, adapting, and growing just like early Church members. The trio dives into a thoughtful discussion on membership councils, reframing them as tools for redemption rather than punishment. They wrap up talking about repenting quickly and doing the small things to stay close to Jesus Christ.

D&C 98-101 with Sonny Makasini Sep 08, 2025

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BYU offensive lineman Sonny Makasini joins Chase Roberts and Connor Pay to discuss Doctrine and Covenants sections 98-101. Before diving into the doctrine of Christ in these sections, the trio discuss the goods and bads of the bowl games they’ve attended. Sonny then shares a spiritually enriching experience of how everything works out for people when they keep the commandments. The discussion then turns to the nature of trials—those that stem from personal choices, the actions of others, and the inherent challenges of mortality. Connor and Sonny recount moments on the football field when they faced adversity despite doing everything right—illustrating how trials often come even in the midst of faithfulness. Chase admits he doesn’t enjoy trials but expresses hope that he’ll appreciate them more in the future, especially when he eventually sees Jesus Christ face to face.

D&C 94-97 with Trey Roberts Sep 01, 2025

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Connor Pay and Chase Roberts welcome recently returned missionary and BYU wide receiver Trey Roberts. He also happens to be Chase's brother. The trio dive into a meaningful conversation about the seven promises made in temples of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. They then explore the theme of loving correction, both from God and within the BYU Football team.The episode wraps up with a discussion on the spiritual strength that comes from keeping commandments.

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