Two Point Conversion with BYU Football: A Gospel Discussion Podcast

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General Conference Recap and Exodus 14-18 with Kassidy Roberts Apr 13, 2026

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Connor and Chase are back in the studio once again and have welcomed Kassidy Roberts, Chase's older sister, on the podcast to discuss thoughts and impressions from General Conference, as well as dive into this week's Come Follow Me covering Exodus 14-18. They discuss Moses parting the Red Sea, as well as the habits that the Israelites continued to fall back on, even after witnessing miracles; murmuring and doubting God's hand in their lives. Connections are made to the latter days and how we can strive to recognize the miracles that God places in our path amid the struggles of everyday life. Connor and Chase are back in the studio and welcome a special guest—Kassidy Roberts, Chase’s older sister—to join the conversation. Together, they share impressions from the most recent General Conference of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. They also dive into this week’s Come, Follow Me study of Exodus 14–18. From Moses parting the Red Sea to the Israelites’ repeated struggles with murmuring and doubt—even after witnessing undeniable miracles—the discussion explores timeless patterns of faith and forgetfulness. The episode draws powerful connections to the latter days, inviting listeners to reflect on how we can better recognize God’s hand in our lives and see His miracles, even amid the challenges of everyday life.

Exodus 7-13 with Steven and Toni Caplin Apr 06, 2026

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In this special episode, hosts Connor Pay and Chase Roberts welcome very special guests — President and Sister Caplin, Connor's former mission president and his wife, now serving in the St. George Temple presidency — for an in-depth exploration of the Passover. Drawing on President Caplin's unique background as a descendant of Jewish converts and a lifelong student of the Torah, the group unpacks the deep symbolism of the Passover — the sacrificial lamb, the Seder meal, the unleavened bread, the bitter herbs — and how each element points powerfully to Jesus Christ.

Easter Update and General Conference Challenge Mar 30, 2026

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Connor Pay and Chase Roberts will be taking a break from the podcast this week to celebrate Easter and challenge listeners to share their favorite conference talks with them. You can send them a message on their Instagram page.

Exodus 1-6 with John Bytheway Mar 23, 2026

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Co-Hosts Connor Pay and Chase Roberts welcome John Bytheway, the co-host of the "Follow Him" podcast, to dive into Exodus chapters 1 through 6. From the rise of a new Pharaoh who "knew not Joseph" to the burning bush and Moses' call to deliver Israel, this episode explores what it means to know who you are when the world — or the adversary — tries to tell you otherwise. The trio shares insights into the meaning of Moses' name, how Satan's first move is always an attack on identity, and what the Hebrew phrase "I Am That I Am" reveals about the nature of God.

Genesis 42-50 Mar 16, 2026

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This week, Connor and Chase are holding things down on their own as they explore Genesis 42–50 and the remarkable story of Joseph in Egypt. What begins as a familiar Old Testament narrative quickly opens up into something richer — a life full of deliberate, Christlike parallels. Joseph is rejected by his own brothers, sold for silver, imprisoned unjustly, and ultimately lifted to a position of life‑saving authority. The guys break down why these connections to the Savior aren’t accidental and what they reveal about God’s pattern of working through hardship. They also dive deep into the theme of divine timing. Drawing from Chase’s current battle with injury leading up to the NFL Draft, the conversation turns personal as they talk about how adversity often feels random — and why it might actually be preparation.

Genesis 37-41 with Izabele Christensen, Ivy Stout, James Calderon Mar 09, 2026

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Join hosts Connor Pay and Chase Roberts for a powerful episode featuring three special guests: former sister missionaries Izabele Christensen and Ivy Stout, and convert James Calderon, whom they taught in the Washington, D.C. South Mission. In this deeply personal episode, James shares his remarkable journey from a difficult separation and divorce to finding truth through the restored gospel. What started as a chance encounter on a George Mason University street corner became a life-changing experience that illustrates key principles from the story of Joseph in Genesis 37-41. James vulnerably discusses his initial hesitation toward baptism, his ongoing battles with old habits, and how temple covenants became "a way to look forward in life." Izzy and Ivy share their perspective on watching God work in someone's life, emphasizing that you don't need to be perfect before making covenants - you need covenants to become perfect. This episode also powerfully demonstrates that "time and again, good fortune seemed to abandon Joseph, but the Lord never did" - a principle that applies to all our lives as we strive to keep our covenants with God.

A Short Break! Mar 02, 2026

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Connor Pay and Chase Roberts really needed to take a break. Connor recently got married and was on his honeymoon, while Chase Roberts has been participating in the NFL Draft Combine. They'll be back next week for a brand new episode of Two Point Conversion.

Genesis 18-23 with Shan Arumugam Feb 23, 2026

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Hosts Connor Pay and Chase Roberts chat with Shan Arumugam, whose remarkable story of faith and transformation will inspire anyone facing adversity. From growing up in India's "untouchable" caste system to finding hope in the gospel of Jesus Christ, Shan shares his incredible journey—from contemplating suicide as a university student to discovering missionaries who changed his life forever. His story includes serving a mission without knowing English or Hindi, earning a scholarship to BYU Hawaii with just a few dollars in his pocket, and eventually being sealed in the temple. The conversation weaves Shan's personal testimony with insights from Genesis 18-23, exploring themes of covenant keeping, divine promises, and the sacrifice of Abraham and Isaac. The hosts discuss how Abraham and Sarah's decades-long wait for their promised son mirrors our own faith journeys, and how every religion points back to the ultimate sacrifice of Jesus Christ.

Genesis 12-17; Abraham 1-2 with Jaren Kump Feb 16, 2026

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Join hosts Connor Pay and Chase Roberts for a powerful, faith-filled conversation with former Utah Utes center Jaren Kump. In this episode, Jaren opens up about his unexpected journey—from being committed to BYU to ultimately choosing the University of Utah—and how personal revelation guided him through that difficult, soul-searching decision. Together, they dive into Genesis 12–17 and Abraham 1–2, exploring the depth and beauty of the Abrahamic Covenant and what it means to live as covenant-keeping disciples today. Jaren shares how staying true to his covenants shaped his choices both on and off the field, even when those choices weren’t easy or popular. Other Episode Highlights: - The often-overlooked temple symbolism woven throughout the Book of Abraham - The sacred responsibility—and blessings—that come with making covenants - What it looks like to be a missionary wherever you stand, even when it means representing your faith on a rival team

Moses 7 with BYU OL Andrew Gentry Feb 02, 2026

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Join hosts Connor Pay and Chase Roberts, along with special guest Andrew Gentry, as they dive deep into Moses chapter 7 and explore what it means to build Zion in our modern world. In this episode, the trio discuss Enoch's powerful vision of human history, God's emotional connection to His children, and the profound doctrine of agency. They explore how the Lord weeps for us, why He gave us the ability to choose, and what it takes to become a people "of one heart and one mind."

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