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    “Turpentine VC” | Venture Capital and Investing

    On Turpentine VC, host and venture capitalist Erik Torenberg delves deep into the art and science of building successful venture firms through conversations with the world’s best investors and operators. Hear about insider strategies on decision-making, investment theses, and building firms for the long term—from the ground-level, VC to VC. Guests in season 1 include Ben Horowitz of a16z, Mamood Hamid and Ilya Fushman of Kleiner Perkins, and Alfred Lin of Sequoia.

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    E6: Chad Byers on Why Susa is Returning to Concentrated, Company-Building Seed Investing Sep 12, 2023
    Show notes

    10 years after their initial launch, Susa is relaunching the firm with a new vision and strategy, which Susa General Partner, Chad Byers, tells us about in this episode of Turpentine VC. If you’re looking to improve your sourcing, tracking, and due diligence, check out: https://synaptic.com/turpentine


    We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.

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    SPONSORS:

    🧲 Learn why Craft, Bedrock, NEA and 100s more trust Harmonic’s data to source deals. Harmonic is the most complete startup database, finding new companies as soon as they incorporate and tracking them through IPO. Head to https://bit.ly/harmonicturpentine and make sure to mention Turpentine VC during your demo.


    Synaptic unifies over one hundred real-time company performance metrics across alternative datasets like user traffic, employee data, app downloads, product reviews, and more. It’s your all-in-one source for alternative data that helps you make better investment decisions. To learn how Synaptic can improve your sourcing, tracking, and due diligence, visit https://synaptic.com/turpentine

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    RECOMMENDED PODCAST: LIVE PLAYERS

    Join host Samo Burja and Erik Torenberg as they analyze the mindsets of today’s most intriguing business leaders, investors, and innovators through the lens of their bold actions and contrarian worldviews. You’ll come away with a deeper understanding of the development of technology, business, political power, culture and more. LIsten and subscribe everywhere you get your podcasts: https://link.chtbl.com/liveplayers.

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    Join our free newsletter to get Erik's top 3 insights from each episode every week: https://turpentinevc.substack.com/

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    RELATED SHOWS: If you like Turpentine VC, check out our show The Limited Partner with David Weisburd, where David talks to the investors behind the investors: https://link.chtbl.com/thelimitedpartner

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    X / TWITTER:

    @chadbyers (Chad)

    @eriktorenberg (Erik)

    @SusaVentures

    @TurpentineVC

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    TIMESTAMPS:

    (00:00) Episode Preview

    (00:56) How does Susa see themselves within the venture ecosystem?

    (01:54) The history and next evolution of Susa Ventures

    (8:29) Why Susa isn't becoming multi-stage and the trade-offs of their new vision

    (11:59) What does Susa look like 5-10 years from now?

    (14:07) Chad's thoughts on Thrive

    (15:39) Sponsor: Synaptic

    (16:38) On incubations and whether Susa would want to pursue them in the future

    (17:47) On LP strategy

    (20:31) The trade-offs of investing in platform as a fund

    (23:21) The sweet spot of where Susa invests in relation to product-market fit

    (26:16) How has Susa thought about partner recruiting?

    (29:18) Why doesn't Susa pursue the maximal AUM game?

    (33:03) The unique ways Susa adds value to founders

    (36:29) How Chad thinks about seeds firms evolving to multistage firms and competing against Sequoia, Founders Fund, etc.

    (39:10) Pattern-matching the best founders Chad has backed

    (42:18) Chad on Sam Lessin's theory on seed investing

    (46:24) Predictions for the next 3-5 years of venture

    (48:47) Diving deeper into why Susa decided to double-down to become specialists in seed

    (50:15) Thought experiment: how would Chad launch Susa in 2023?

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    This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co.


    E5: General Catalyst CEO on the Case for Operational Rigor in VC, with Hemant Taneja Sep 05, 2023
    Show notes

    Hemant Taneja is the CEO of General Catalyst, and runs the firm like a true business: defining its mission and values, approaching the product from a problem-solving perspective, and more. If you’re looking to improve your sourcing, tracking, and due diligence, check out: http://synaptic.com/turpentine


    We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.

    ---

    SPONSORS:

    🧲 Learn why Craft, Bedrock, NEA and 100s more trust Harmonic’s data to source deals. Harmonic is the most complete startup database, finding new companies as soon as they incorporate and tracking them through IPO. Head to https://bit.ly/harmonicturpentine and make sure to mention Turpentine VC during your demo.


    Synaptic unifies over one hundred real-time company performance metrics across alternative datasets like user traffic, employee data, app downloads, product reviews, and more. It’s your all-in-one source for alternative data that helps you make better investment decisions. To learn how Synaptic can improve your sourcing, tracking, and due diligence, visit http://synaptic.com/turpentine


    Pesto Tech is a hiring marketplace that makes finding great remote developers fast and easy. They use large language models to evaluate developers along dozens of parameters, including code quality, performance, and security. If you need to start hiring developers fast, all you have to do is answer 5 simple questions on their website: http://pesto.tech

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    RECOMMENDED PODCAST: LIVE PLAYERS

    Join host Samo Burja and Erik Torenberg as they analyze the mindsets of today’s most intriguing business leaders, investors, and innovators through the lens of their bold actions and contrarian worldviews. You’ll come away with a deeper understanding of the development of technology, business, political power, culture and more. LIsten and subscribe everywhere you get your podcasts: https://link.chtbl.com/liveplayers.

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    Join our free newsletter to get Erik's top 3 insights from each episode every week: https://turpentinevc.substack.com/

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    RELATED SHOWS:

    If you like Turpentine VC, check out our show The Limited Partner with David Weisburd, where David talks to the investors behind the investors: https://link.chtbl.com/thelimitedpartner

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    X / TWITTER:

    @htaneja (Hemant)

    @eriktorenberg (Erik)

    @generalcatalyst

    @TurpentineVC

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    TIMESTAMPS:

    (00:00) Episode Preview

    (00:53) How Hemant took over as CEO of General Catalyst

    (03:31) Why General Catalyst decided to operate like a true company

    (05:15) The vision for General Catalyst

    (08:15) How GC thinks about a16z and the future of investing

    (10:52) GC's governance in relation to their vision

    (11:59) Sponsor: Synaptic

    (13:01) Hemant on how macro determines GC's strategy

    (14:59) The future of VC and how the asset class is evolving

    (17:04) More on GC's responsible innovation thesis

    (19:28) The difference between GC and a16z

    (20:32) Hemant explains GC's unfair advantage in healthcare

    (22:47) How GC's strategy is differentiated

    (24:05) GC's incubation strategy

    (26:02) GC's customer value strategy

    (27:23) How Hemant thinks about launching firm products

    (29:11) On GC's global resilience practice

    (30:49) Sponsor: Pesto Tech

    (31:40) On why GC has been so successful in digital health, and the future of that space

    (33:23) Hemant’s request for startups in healthcare

    (35:13) Opportunity areas for emerging managers today

    (37:06) Hemant's approach to talent cultivation and retention

    (39:24) Where does General Catalyst fit into the venture ecosystem?

    (41:11) On radical collaboration


    E4: Sam Lessin on Why the Seed & “Factory System” Era of Venture is Dead Aug 29, 2023
    Show notes

    This week Erik is joined by Sam Lessin, General Partner at the early-stage VC firm Slow Ventures, essayist, and former VP of Product at Facebook. If you’re looking to make fund administration easy and intuitive, check out: http://carta.com/turpentine

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    SPONSORS:

    🧲 Learn why Craft, Bedrock, NEA and 100s more trust Harmonic’s data to source deals. Harmonic is the most complete startup database, finding new companies as soon as they incorporate and tracking them through IPO. Head to https://bit.ly/harmonicturpentine and make sure to mention Turpentine VC during your demo.

    Carta is the world’s largest venture fund administrator. Carta’s software-based approach takes fund administration out of the spreadsheet and into 2023 and beyond with powerful solutions and intuitive interfaces, all on one platform. Their suite of products and expert services help funds at any stage with up-to-date insights and automated workflows to get them to that next level. Learn more at: carta.com/turpentine

    Synaptic unifies over one hundred real-time company performance metrics across alternative datasets like user traffic, employee data, app downloads, product reviews, and more. It’s your all-in-one source for alternative data that helps you make better investment decisions. To learn how Synaptic can improve your sourcing, tracking, and due diligence, visit synaptic.com/turpentine

    Pesto Tech is a hiring marketplace that makes finding great remote developers fast and easy. They use large language models to evaluate developers along dozens of parameters, including code quality, performance, and security. If you need to start hiring developers fast, all you have to do is answer 5 simple questions on their website: pesto.tech

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    Join our free newsletter to get Erik's top 3 insights from each episode every week: https://turpentinevc.substack.com/

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    RELATED SHOWS:

    If you like Turpentine VC, check out our show The Limited Partner with David Weisburd, where David talks to the investors behind the investors: https://link.chtbl.com/thelimitedpartner

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    X / TWITTER:

    @lessin (Sam)

    @eriktorenberg (Erik)

    @slow (Slow Ventures)

    @TurpentineVC

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    TIMESTAMPS:

    (00:00:00) Episode Preview

    (00:01:22) On Screenshot Essays, writing, and being OK with being wrong

    (00:04:04) Sam's thesis on the factory system of venture capital

    (00:07:18) What does venture look like when the factory line is over?

    (00:10:14) Sam's bearishness on YC and a16z

    (00:12:36) What are the best firms going to look like in the future?

    (00:15:36) Sponsor: Carta

    (00:16:17) The future state of company building and venture

    (00:21:46) The biggest factors of luck in life and company building

    (00:23:15) Sam's thesis on constellation software

    (00:28:38) ​​Team Shares and why that's Sam's most bullish investment

    (00:31:49) Sponsors: Synaptic | Pesto Tech

    (00:33:15) Why Sam is bullish on crypto

    (00:38:32) The different models of finance and investing in creators

    (00:42:08) Sam's advice for future investors in 2040

    (00:45:21) Is the LP landscape going to change significantly?

    (00:52:17) Lower variance founders

    (00:56:08) Kardashians and the future of media / celebrity

    (00:57:42) Sam on Balaji's protech and anti-journalist class

    (1:01:00) How can we represent social capital on the internet?

    (1:02:41) On the end of capitalism

    (1:05:38) Slow Ventures today and where they expect to go in the future

    (1:07:26) Sponsor: Carta

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    This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co.


    E3: Aydin Senkut on Why the Generalist Approach to VC Generates More Hits Aug 22, 2023
    Show notes

    In episode three of Turpentine VC, Aydin Senkut and Erik Torenberg examine the generalist approach to VC that Felicis pioneered. If you’re looking to make fund administration easy and intuitive, check out: http://carta.com/turpentine


    We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.

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    SPONSORS:

    🧲 Learn why Craft, Bedrock, NEA and 100s more trust Harmonic’s data to source deals. Harmonic is the most complete startup database, finding new companies as soon as they incorporate and tracking them through IPO. Head to https://bit.ly/harmonicturpentine and make sure to mention Turpentine VC during your demo.


    Carta is the world’s largest venture fund administrator. Carta’s software-based approach takes fund administration out of the spreadsheet and into 2023 and beyond with powerful solutions and intuitive interfaces, all on one platform. Their suite of products and expert services help funds at any stage with up-to-date insights and automated workflows to get them to that next level. Learn more at: http://carta.com/turpentine


    Synaptic unifies over one hundred real-time company performance metrics across alternative datasets like user traffic, employee data, app downloads, product reviews, and more. It’s your all-in-one source for alternative data that helps you make better investment decisions. To learn how Synaptic can improve your sourcing, tracking, and due diligence, visit http://synaptic.com/turpentine


    Pesto Tech is a hiring marketplace that makes finding great remote developers fast and easy. They use large language models to evaluate developers along dozens of parameters, including code quality, performance, and security. If you need to start hiring developers fast, all you have to do is answer 5 simple questions on their website: http://pesto.tech

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    Join our free newsletter to get Erik's top 3 insights from each episode every week: https://turpentinevc.substack.com/

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    TIMESTAMPS:

    (00:00) Episode Preview

    (01:18) The three different stages in the evolution of Felicis

    (03:42) Felicis' strategy to engineer more hits: being generalists

    (05:26) The two key ingredients to finding the right general partners

    (08:02) How does Aydin think about balancing mental health and motivation to build a company?

    (11:04) Bottom-up vs. top-down approaches to opportunistic investing

    (12:54) How Felicis divides and conquers sectors internally

    (15:35) Sponsor: Carta

    (16:10) Felicis' AI strategy

    (18:55) Aydin on not playing the crypto / web3 wave

    (20:41) What's the fourth phase of Felicis' evolution?

    (25:07) What's Felicis' advantage and special ingredient?

    (27:30) Looking at Felicis from an LP perspective

    (31:11) Two non-negotiables for Aydin when raising funds

    (33:12) Sponsors: Synaptic | Pesto Tech

    (35:07) How does Felicis think about decision-making? How do they make such quality decisions?

    (38:52) Why virtually all of Felicis' investments are narrative-driven

    (40:59) Aydin's recommendations for firms starting in 2023

    (43:47) Aydin on Felicis' unique governance model

    (47:30) How active is Aydin in the actual investing of Felicis now?

    (49:50) What do founders really care about getting from their VCs?

    (53:10) The number one factor when founders are choosing investors

    (54:20) Other investors Aydin admires

    (56:24) The venture landscape in 2030

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    This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co.


    E2: Kleiner Perkins Makes the Case for Craftsman VC, with Mamoon Hamid and Ilya Fushman Aug 15, 2023
    Show notes

    This week on Turpentine VC, Mamoon Hamid and Ilya Fushman of Kleiner Perkins join Erik to discuss how they’ve seized the torch and helped drive the next chapter of the firm’s iconic history. If you’re looking to make fund administration easy and intuitive, check out: http://carta.com/turpentine


    We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.

    ---

    SPONSORS:

    🧲 Learn why Craft, Bedrock, NEA and 100s more trust Harmonic’s data to source deals. Harmonic is the most complete startup database, finding new companies as soon as they incorporate and tracking them through IPO. Head to https://bit.ly/harmonicturpentine and make sure to mention Turpentine VC during your demo.


    Carta is the world’s largest venture fund administrator. Carta’s software-based approach takes fund administration out of the spreadsheet and into 2023 and beyond with powerful solutions and intuitive interfaces, all on one platform. Their suite of products and expert services help funds at any stage with up-to-date insights and automated workflows to get them to that next level. Learn more at: http://carta.com/turpentine


    Synaptic unifies over one hundred real-time company performance metrics across alternative datasets like user traffic, employee data, app downloads, product reviews, and more. It’s your all-in-one source for alternative data that helps you make better investment decisions. To learn how Synaptic can improve your sourcing, tracking, and due diligence, visit http://synaptic.com/turpentine


    Pesto Tech is a hiring marketplace that makes finding great remote developers fast and easy. They use large language models to evaluate developers along dozens of parameters, including code quality, performance, and security. If you need to start hiring developers fast, all you have to do is answer 5 simple questions on their website: http://pesto.tech

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    Join our free newsletter to get Erik's top 3 insights from each episode every week: https://turpentinevc.substack.com/

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    RELATED SHOWS: If you like Turpentine VC, check out our show The Limited Partner with David Weisburd, where David talks to the investors behind the investors: https://link.chtbl.com/thelimitedpartner

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    X / TWITTER:

    @mamoonha (Mamoon)

    @ilyaf (Ilya)

    @eriktorenberg (Erik)

    @TurpentineVC

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    TIMESTAMPS:

    (00:00) Episode Preview

    (01:35) How do venture firms and partner transitions work?

    (03:18) The craftsman approach to venture

    (04:55) The majors and minors of KP partners

    (06:04) How KP makes decisions

    (09:20) The different approaches of venture firms

    (13:50) What approach to firm-building KP believes in

    (18:05) Sponsor: Carta

    (18:37) How Mamoon and Ilya strategize on fund size

    (23:30) When does someone become a partner at KP?

    (27:10) The NBA draft analogy for how KP identifies and finds talent

    (30:55) Generalist versus specialist firms

    (34:12) Sponsors: Synaptic | Pesto Tech

    (35:38) What's KP's strategy when it comes to investing in new waves?

    (39:07) How Kleiner evaluates talent differently than other firms

    (43:18) What makes great partnerships?

    (45:33) The biggest decisions Mamoon and Ilya have made at KP

    (49:25) How does governance work at firms when they transition?

    (53:00) On products and providing unique value to founders

    (56:10) What's the key in making firm transitions successful?

    (58:40) Who drinks more coffee?

    ---

    This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co.


    E1: Ben Horowitz on What Traditional VC Gets Wrong Aug 08, 2023
    Show notes

    Ben Horowitz, co-founder of Andreessen Horowitz (a16z) and one of the most influential venture capitalists of the last decade, joins Erik for the inaugural episode of Turpentine VC. If you’re looking to make fund administration easy and intuitive, check out: http://carta.com/turpentine


    We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.

    --

    SPONSORS:

    🧲 Learn why Craft, Bedrock, NEA and 100s more trust Harmonic’s data to source deals. Harmonic is the most complete startup database, finding new companies as soon as they incorporate and tracking them through IPO. Head to https://bit.ly/harmonicturpentine and make sure to mention Turpentine VC during your demo.


    Carta is the world’s largest venture fund administrator. Carta’s software-based approach takes fund administration out of the spreadsheet and into 2023 and beyond with powerful solutions and intuitive interfaces, all on one platform. Their suite of products and expert services help funds at any stage with up-to-date insights and automated workflows to get them to that next level. Learn more at: http://carta.com/turpentine


    Synaptic unifies over one hundred real-time company performance metrics across alternative datasets like user traffic, employee data, app downloads, product reviews, and more. It’s your all-in-one source for alternative data that helps you make better investment decisions. To learn how Synaptic can improve your sourcing, tracking, and due diligence, visit http://synaptic.com/turpentine


    Pesto Tech is a hiring marketplace that makes finding great remote developers fast and easy. They use large language models to evaluate developers along dozens of parameters, including code quality, performance, and security. If you need to start hiring developers fast, all you have to do is answer 5 simple questions on their website: http://pesto.tech

    ---


    RECOMMENDED PODCAST: LIVE PLAYERS

    Join host Samo Burja and Erik Torenberg as they analyze the mindsets of today’s most intriguing business leaders, investors, and innovators through the lens of their bold actions and contrarian worldviews. You’ll come away with a deeper understanding of the development of technology, business, political power, culture and more. LIsten and subscribe everywhere you get your podcasts: https://link.chtbl.com/liveplayers.

    ---

    Join our free newsletter to get Erik's top 3 insights from each episode every week: https://turpentinevc.substack.com/

    ---

    TIMESTAMPS:

    (00:00) Episode Preview

    (02:25) Ben on what allows the legendary VC firms to be great for multi-decades

    (03:37) a16z’s unique product-first, investor-second approach

    (04:34) YC as a16z’s closest spiritual analog

    (06:20) The strategy behind how Ben and Marc set up their firm structure

    (08:12) Ben on why venture firms should stay private

    (09:32) How a16z scaled their fund sizes to market opportunities

    (10:54) Why a16z chose to go bigger than Benchmark or USV on fund size

    (12:47) “Spreadsheet” VCs vs. people-first VCs

    (14:34) a16z’s customer-focused strategy

    (16:22) Sponsor: Carta

    (16:57) Shared economics and centralized control

    (18:29) Ben’s view on the future of venture

    (21:44) How Ben thinks about riding trends like AI, crypto, etc.

    (24:04) a16z’s AI strategy

    (32:38) Sponsors: Synaptic and Pesto Tech

    (34:06) Ben on how macro informs a16z’s strategy

    (40:11) What Ben wants to see next in tech media

    (44:04) Sponsor: Carta

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    LINKS:

    Why Software Is Eating the World: https://a16z.com/2011/08/20/why-software-is-eating-the-world/


    Introducing: Turpentine VC Aug 05, 2023
    Show notes

    On Turpentine VC, host and venture capitalist Erik Torenberg delves deep into the art and science of building successful venture firms through conversations with the world’s best investors and operators. Hear about insider strategies on decision-making, investment theses, and building firms for the long term—from the ground-level, VC to VC. Guests in season 1 include Ben Horowitz of a16z, Mamood Hamid and Ilya Fushman of Kleiner Perkins, and Alfred Lin of Sequoia.


    We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.


    RECOMMENDED PODCAST:

    The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down thenitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord: https://link.chtbl.com/hrheretics


    RECOMMENDED PODCAST:

    Every week investor and writer of the popular newsletter The Diff, Byrne Hobart, and co-host Erik Torenberg discuss today’s major inflection points in technology, business, and markets – and help listeners build a diversified portfolio of trends and ideas for the future. Subscribe to “The Riff” with Byrne Hobart and Erik Torenberg: https://link.chtbl.com/theriff


    Subscribe to Turpentine VC wherever you listen to podcasts!

    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Yb8ErLRnyoAqn4Y6NegTx

    Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/id1701006772

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TurpentineVC


    Turpentine VC is a part of the Turpentine podcast network. Learn more: Turpentine.co


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