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    True Crime Conversations

    True Crime Conversations explores the world’s most notorious crimes by speaking to the people who know the most about them. Hosted by Gemma Bath.

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    Who Killed Leanne Holland? Aug 11, 2021
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    On the eastern edge of the city of Ipswich in Queensland, lies a small suburb named Goodna.

    About 20 kilometres from the Brisbane central business district, Goodna is peppered with Jacaranda, Hoop Pine, and Mango trees, and boasts numerous parks which are frequented by the public.

    It was the 26th of September - a spring day - at 1:42pm when two police were stopped in their tracks.

    They had been searching the bushland on Redbank Plains Road after a young girl, 12-year-old Leanne Holland, had been reported missing by her family a few days before.

    The officers spotted a partly unclothed, shoeless body. One that would come to be identified as the blonde-haired, round-faced, Leanne.

    What had happened to her? And who was responsible?

    Police already had a suspect. One man.

    But, as we’d come to find out, there were a handful of problems.

    CREDITS

    Guest: Graeme Crowley, author of Who Killed Leanne Holland

    Host: Jessie Stephens

    Producer: Gia Moylan

    Audio Producer: Ian Camilleri

    CONTACT US

    Tell us what you think of the show via email at truecrime@mamamia.com.au

    Join our closed Facebook community to discuss this episode. Just search True Crime Conversations on Facebook or follow this link https://bit.ly/tcc-group

    If any of the contents in this episode have caused distress, know that there is help available via Lifeline on 13 11 14 or Beyond Blue on 1300 22 4636

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

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    The Frankston Murders Aug 04, 2021
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    It’s a quarter past seven in the evening on Friday, June 11, 1993.

    18-year-old Elizabeth Stevens is freezing. She’s soaking wet from the rain, her short hair clinging to her neck.

    She steps off the bus which she caught from Frankston to Cranbourne Road, Langwarrin, and hurries towards her aunt and uncle's house where she lives. She doesn’t know she’s being watched.

    She had spent her Friday evening at Frankston Library on an English assignment. Her goal is to one day join the army and she knows she has to complete this TAFE course in order to get there.

    That particular June night, the rain is so heavy it’s difficult to see. As Elizabeth turns into Paterson Avenue a man jumps at her out of the darkness, dressed in a green army jacket and navy baseball cap. The sound of the rain and the roaring wind drowns out her screams.

    She feels what she can only assume is a gun to her head as he drags her along someone’s front lawn.

    Threatening Elizabeth, the man holds her hand, directing her down Paterson Avenue. Passersby think their interaction looks innocent, not knowing that if Elizabeth doesn’t comply the man has threatened to “blow her head off”.

    He leads her to Lloyd Park into a clump of bushes.

    These would be the last moments of Elizabeth Stevens’ life.

    Less than an hour afterwards the man responsible for her murder would be sitting inside his warm home, enjoying a roast dinner, waiting for his girlfriend to return home from work.

    CREDITS

    Guest: Vikki Petraitis, author of The Frankston Murders: 25 Years On

    Host: Jessie Stephens

    Producer: Gia Moylan

    Audio Producer: Ian Camileri

    CONTACT US

    Tell us what you think of the show via email at truecrime@mamamia.com.au

    Join our closed Facebook community to discuss this episode. Just search True Crime Conversations on Facebook or follow this link https://bit.ly/tcc-group

    If any of the contents in this episode have caused distress, know that there is help available via Lifeline on 13 11 14 or Beyond Blue on 1300 22 4636

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

    Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

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    MH17: The Passenger Plane Shot Down From The Sky Jul 28, 2021
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    It’s just after midday on July 17, 2014, when 283 passengers, and 15 crew members board MH17 at Amsterdam’s Schiphol Airport.

    Among the passengers are 12-year-old Mo, 10-year-old Evie, and eight-year-old Otis Maslin, along with their 68-year-old grandfather, Nick Norris. MH17 is bound for Kuala Lumpur International Airport, due to arrive at 6:10am local time. The family would then go on to Perth, Australia, where they live.

    But a few hours into the flight, the plane loses contact with air traffic control. The last known point of contact is about 50 kilometres from the Russia-Ukraine border.

    The parents of Mo, Evie and Otis are in Amsterdam, spending two more days in the city, before heading home to join their kids.

    That afternoon they think to themselves how lucky they are. How life doesn’t get any better than this.

    Late that night, they’ll receive a phone call.

    They are thrown into what they will later describe, a living hell.

    CREDITS

    Guest: Meshel Laurie author of CSI Told You Lies

    Host: Jessie Stephens

    Producer: Gia Moylan

    Audio Producer: Ian Camileri

    CONTACT US

    Tell us what you think of the show via email at truecrime@mamamia.com.au

    Join our closed Facebook community to discuss this episode. Just search True Crime Conversations on Facebook or follow this link https://bit.ly/tcc-group

    If any of the contents in this episode have caused distress, know that there is help available via Lifeline on 13 11 14 or Beyond Blue on 1300 22 4636

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

    Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    The Real Life Dr. Death Jul 21, 2021
    Show notes

    It was late 2011 when 54-year-old Kellie Martin had her accident.

    Along with her husband Don Martin, Kellie was retrieving Christmas decorations from their attic in Garland, Texas, when she missed a step on a ladder.

    The fall resulted in a herniated disk in her back, an incredibly painful injury that she treated with physical therapy, muscle relaxers and pain relief. Eventually, her doctor recommended surgery.

    An elementary school teacher, Kellie scheduled her surgery in the break of March 2012. The neurosurgeon, Dr. Christopher Duntsch, explained the procedure was simple and routine. It would only take 45 minutes, with a quick recovery.

    When the day came, Kellie and Don had complete trust in Dr. Duntsch. He was articulate and reassuring. The exact kind of doctor you’d want looking after you.

    But the 45 minutes came and went. Don sat in the waiting room, starting to wonder if something had gone terribly wrong. Eventually, Dr. Duntcsh came out. The surgery had been a success, although Kellie was in a little pain. Then, he went on to explain she might have to go up to the ICU or stay overnight. Alarm bells started sounding for Don. Something wasn’t right.

    Hours passed. Still, they were working on her. Don and Kellie’s daughter’s arrived and waited with their father. They were confused. Sick with worry.

    That’s when the ICU physician, Dr. Duntsch and the anesthesiologist met with them.

    Kellie was dead.

    Dr. Duntsch, they would later discover, had sliced an artery, and Kellie had bled to death.

    For the Martin family, they were living their absolute worst nightmare.

    What they didn’t know, was that of the 38 surgeries Dr. Duntsch had attempted in the last two years, 33 had gone wrong. Patients were left in chronic pain, others unable to walk, or with permanent injuries.

    Patients and doctors demanded answers. And eventually, they would get them.

    CREDITS

    Guest: Marshall Lewy from Wondery

    Host: Jessie Stephens

    Producer: Gia Moylan

    Audio Producer: Ian Camileri

    You can stream the new Dr. Death television series on Stan.

    CONTACT US

    Tell us what you think of the show via email at truecrime@mamamia.com.au

    Join our closed Facebook community to discuss this episode. Just search True Crime Conversations on Facebook or follow this link https://bit.ly/tcc-group

    If any of the contents in this episode have caused distress, know that there is help available via Lifeline on 13 11 14 or Beyond Blue on 1300 22 4636

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

    Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    Life With The Serpent: The Story Of Charles Sobhraj Jul 14, 2021
    Show notes

    It was October 18, 1975, when a farmer found the body of a young woman floating face down in the Gulf of Thailand.

    Teresa Knowlton was wearing a floral bikini - a detail that journalists would use to eventually brand her murderer 'The Bikini Killer'.

    The 21-year-old had traveled to Bangkok, from Seattle in the US, and was following the “Hippie Trail” that would eventually lead her to study Tibetan Buddhism at Kopan Monastery in Kathmandu.

    But along the way, she’d met someone.

    Although accounts differ, it appears that a man invited Theresa to his home in Pattaya, about 100 kilometres southeast of Bangkok.

    There, it’s likely her drink was poisoned. And then, she was invited out for a swim.

    She would become the first victim of a man who would come to be known as 'The Serpent'.

    And his crimes would only get worse.

    CREDITS

    Guest: Julie Clarke

    Host: Jessie Stephens

    Producer: Gia Moylan

    Audio Producer: Ian Camileri

    CONTACT US

    Tell us what you think of the show via email at truecrime@mamamia.com.au

    Join our closed Facebook community to discuss this episode. Just search True Crime Conversations on Facebook or follow this link https://bit.ly/tcc-group

    If any of the contents in this episode have caused distress, know that there is help available via Lifeline on 13 11 14 or Beyond Blue on 1300 22 4636

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

    Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    The Myall Creek Massacre Jul 07, 2021
    Show notes

    It’s an hour and a half before sunset on a Sunday afternoon in June, 1838.

    A group of Indigenous Australians, the Wirrayaraay people, are cooking their evening meal. As the day nears its end, things are quiet. Calm.

    They’re at Myall Creek Station, in north western NSW, between the towns of Bingara and Delungra. They’ve been camped there for a few weeks, seeking safety and protection from stockmen who have been roaming the district, killing any Indigenous person they could find.

    And then they hear something.

    A rumbling. The sound of horses hooves. Eleven men can be seen in the distance, galloping towards them at speed.

    The women grab their children. Two young boys run and dive into a nearby creek. The rest of the group - about 28 in total - scramble towards the huts, hoping that the white men would protect them.

    Instead, they were tied up, and led away from the huts.

    What happened would come to be known as the Myall Creek massacre - a crime Australians must never, ever forget.

    CREDITS

    Guest: Mark Tedeschi QC

    Host: Jessie Stephens

    Producer: Gia Moylan

    Audio Producer: Leah Porges

    CONTACT US

    Tell us what you think of the show via email at truecrime@mamamia.com.au

    Join our closed Facebook community to discuss this episode. Just search True Crime Conversations on Facebook or follow this link https://bit.ly/tcc-group

    If any of the contents in this episode have caused distress, know that there is help available via Lifeline on 13 11 14 or Beyond Blue on 1300 22 4636

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

    Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    The Devil’s Grip: A Deadly Secret Jun 30, 2021
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    Seven gunshots ring out through Victoria’s green and vast Barrabool Hills.

    On the western outskirts of Geelong, the Barrabool Hills is sparsely populated, best known for grazing sheep and lamb.

    It’s the early hours of Wednesday, March 18, 1992, and the sun has not yet risen. Everyone should be asleep.

    But those seven gunshots will have killed three people.

    For the youngest casualty, 23-year-old Guy, a gunshot shatters his watch. The time reads 4:25am.

    A family line will end that day. Three generations wiped out in just minutes. But the story of Darcy Wettenhall, and the secret life he was living, is about to be revealed.

    CREDITS

    Guest: Neal Drinnan

    Host: Jessie Stephens

    Producer: Gia Moylan

    Audio Producer: Ian Camilleri

    CONTACT US

    Tell us what you think of the show via email at truecrime@mamamia.com.au

    Join our closed Facebook community to discuss this episode. Just search True Crime Conversations on Facebook or follow this link https://bit.ly/tcc-group

    If any of the contents in this episode have caused distress, know that there is help available via Lifeline on 13 11 14 or Beyond Blue on 1300 22 4636

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

    Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    The Good Girls: A Double Tragedy In A Quiet Village Jun 23, 2021
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    Hanging from a mango tree, on the edge of their village in Uttar Pradesh, are the bodies of two girls.

    It’s May 27, 2014, and the sun is just beginning to rise in India’s north. It’s already blisteringly hot, the air thick and overbearing. A man, a member of the village, is the first to see them. The two girls who went missing last night.

    Lalli is 14, her lifeless body beside her 16-year-old cousin Padma. They were inseparable in life, neighbours who were more like sisters. Their parents have been desperately trying to find them. They will eventually be called to this orchard, and they will see what became of their daughters.

    But when they find them, they do not take their bodies down. Their mistrust of police is so great that they wait for a man they trust to arrive. They think that the police will ensure these girls are forgotten. Their deaths ignored by the justice system. Instead, the women of the family guard their bodies as they are exposed to the heat, factors that would make it increasingly difficult to determine what happened.

    On that day, in May 2014, photographs are taken of a scene that is shared all around the world.

    These girls’ lives mattered.

    And with a spotlight on this small village in India, it’s critical they determine what happened.

    CREDITS

    Guest: Sonia Faleiro

    Host: Jessie Stephens

    Producer: Gia Moylan

    Audio Producer: Ian Camilleri

    CONTACT US

    Tell us what you think of the show via email at truecrime@mamamia.com.au

    Join our closed Facebook community to discuss this episode. Just search True Crime Conversations on Facebook or follow this link https://bit.ly/tcc-group

    If any of the contents in this episode have caused distress, know that there is help available via Lifeline on 13 11 14 or Beyond Blue on 1300 22 4636

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

    Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    Barrenjoey Road: The Case Of Trudie Jeanette Adams Jun 16, 2021
    Show notes

    On today’s episode host Jessie Stephens is speaking with award-winning investigative journalists Ruby Jones and Neil Mercer, co-authors of the book Barrenjoey Road.

    For 43 years, the case of Trudie Jeanette Adams has intrigued people on Sydney's Northern Beaches. Trudie decided to hitch-hike home, but she was never seen again.

    Ruby Jones first investigated the case for ABC’s Unravel podcast. The second season, titled Barrenjoey Road, investigated the disappearance of Trudie Adams. The ABC then produced the three-part documentary series with Jones and Mercer, under the same name.

    CREDITS

    Guest: Ruby Jones & Neil Mercer

    Host: Jessie Stephens

    Producer: Gia Moylan

    Audio Producer: Ian Camilleri

    CONTACT US

    Tell us what you think of the show via email at truecrime@mamamia.com.au

    Join our closed Facebook community to discuss this episode. Just search True Crime Conversations on Facebook or follow this link https://bit.ly/tcc-group

    If any of the contents in this episode have caused distress, know that there is help available via Lifeline on 13 11 14 or Beyond Blue on 1300 22 4636

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

    Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    Finding Cleo: The Story Of A Lost Child Jun 09, 2021
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    On today’s episode Jessie is speaking with award-winning investigative journalist Connie Walker, whose podcast ‘Stolen’ & ‘Missing & Murdered’ uncovers an overlooked epidemic of violence against Indigenous women and girls in North America.

    Her ‘Finding Cleo’ series tells the story of the young Cree girl who was taken from her family by child welfare workers in Saskatchewan in the 1970s, and unearths what truly happened to her...

    CREDITS

    Guest: Carrie Walker

    Host: Jessie Stephens

    Producer: Gia Moylan

    Audio Producer: Ian Camilleri

    CONTACT US

    Tell us what you think of the show via email at truecrime@mamamia.com.au

    Join our closed Facebook community to discuss this episode. Just search True Crime Conversations on Facebook or follow this link https://bit.ly/tcc-group

    If any of the contents in this episode have caused distress, know that there is help available via Lifeline on 13 11 14 or Beyond Blue on 1300 22 4636

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

    Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


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