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    Travis Makes Money

    You can’t save your way to your dream life anymore. The truth is, you’re gonna need to learn to make more money. The Travis Makes Money Podcast is not your typical personal finance show. Rather than shaming you for buying a Starbucks coffee or pressuring you to become a billionaire, we focus on empowering you to make more money so you can enjoy life today while preparing for your future. You don’t have to cut back so much that you miss out on the present, and you don’t need to become the next Jeff Bezos either. Hosted by veteran podcaster Travis Chappell, each daily episode features interviews with regular people just like you – yes, you – who have learned how to make more money in unique and unconventional ways. From turning side hustles into an extra six figures to building massive business empires, these conversations dive into the mindset shifts, hard-earned lessons, and simple strategies that helped these individuals succeed. With over 1,000 podcast episodes under his belt, Travis has developed a unique ability to pull out inspiring stories and practical advice you can apply to your own financial journey that you just won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you’re looking for strategies on side hustles, skill building, investing, building generational wealth, or just motivation to take your next steps, this podcast is your resource. Tune in daily for insights, actionable tips, and inspiration from some of the most successful and interesting money-makers on the planet.

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    570: Travis Chambers | $600M in Revenue with Facebook Ads Mar 29, 2021
    Show notes

    An average ad-buyer with elite content can beat an elite ad-buyer with average content all day long. But today we have elite ad-buyer and elite content creator Travis Chambers, the Founder of Chamber.Media, the industry leader in data-crafted video ads with over 4,000 productions/mo, $80M in managed spend, and $600M in tracked revenue!


    Travis is a genius at crafting ad content for every size of company. He’s a Forbes 30 Under 30 lister and keynote speaker at events like Google Growth Summit and VidCon, while also being featured in Inc, Entrepreneur, AdWeek, HuffPo, and others.


    Let’s dive right into today’s episode and learn more from Travis about how he was able to drive $600 in Revenue with Facebook Ads.


    Things you will learn in this episode:

    [00:01 - 07:51] Opening Segment

    • Sponsored ad
    • I introduce today’s guests Travis Chamber
    • Founder of Chamber.media
    • Be sure to check out guestio.com and start booking
    • Travis talks about some of his stand-out ads
    • Travis gives some background into his life
    • Early days with the VHS recorders
    • Told his parents he wanted to own a marketing agency
    • Sales and Marketing dad
    • Combining creativity with business


    [07:52 - 18:57] Seeing the Power of Social Media Marketing

    • Travis talks about his career experience
    • Started out wanting to climb the corporate ladder
    • Doing entrepreneurial stuff without realizing it
    • Seeing the power of social media marketing
    • The explosion of YouTubers
    • Going big - biggest Influencer Activation of all time
    • Travis on starting his own agency
    • Getting the winning pitch without getting recognition
    • Getting an offer from 20th Century Fox - bad experience
    • Deciding to set out on his own during big life events
    • Navigating the market
    • Knowing what kind of money is out there
    • Creating a viral campaign on a budget
    • The early sacrifices


    [18:58 - 25:11] $600M in Revenue with Facebook Ads

    • Making ads that work
    • Creative and rising ad cost
    • The untapped Facebook marketing at the time
    • Bringing companies to scale
    • The competition and ad costs
    • The social media edge
    • A word from our sponsor


    [25:12 - 33:48] The 7 Foundational Ads

    • How to use what you have
    • The 7 foundational ads
    • Ad taxonomy
    • Spokesperson video
    • Product Demo
    • Social Proof
    • Closer ads
    • Case Study
    • Lifestyle ads
    • Unboxing
    • Make variations of the type
    • Perform a gap analysis
    • The power of creative
    • Success through testing
    • Making ads for Chamber.media


    [33:49 - 43:42] Closing Segment

    • Stand out relationships that helped you?
    • Travis talks about the people that helped him along the way
    • Who you know or What you know?
    • There is very little original thought
    • You can’t inspire yourself on your own
    • Building on someone else
    • The example of Pablo Picasso
    • ThE RaNdOm RoUnd
    • How to engage with Travis
    • Links below
    • Final words


    Tweetable Quotes:

    “It’s feast or famine… When you’re going for those big deals, you pretty much have to accept that you’re gonna lose on 90% of them.” - Travis Chambers

    “An average ad-buyer with elite content, can beat an elite ad-buyer with average content all day long.” - Travis Chambers

    “It’s all about data… Facebook’s got the richest data in all of mankind.” - Travis Chambers



    Resources Mentioned:



    • Unicorn Facebook Ad Creative
    • The $100 Startup
    • Russell Brunson Books



    Connect with Travis on LinkedIn, Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter. Be sure to visit https://www.chamber.media/ and learn more about social ads that will grow your brand.


    Did you love the value that we are putting out in the show? LEAVE A REVIEW and tell us what you think about the episode so we can continue putting out great content just for you! Share this episode and help someone who wants to connect with world-class people.

    Jump on over to travischappell.com/makemypodcast and let my team make you your very own show!


    If you want to learn how to build YOUR network, check out my website a travischappell.com. You can connect with me on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. Be sure to join The Lounge to become part of the community that’s setting up REAL relationships that add value and create investments.


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    569: BYN Breakdown | What to Invest in When Starting a Podcast Mar 26, 2021
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    Did you love the value that we are putting out in the show? LEAVE A REVIEW and tell us what you think about the episode so we can continue putting out great content just for you! Share this episode and help someone who wants to connect with world-class people.

    Jump on over to travischapell.com/makemypodcast and let my team make you your very own show!


    If you want to learn how to build YOUR network, check out my website a travischappell.com. You can connect with me on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. Be sure to join The Lounge to become part of the community that’s setting up REAL relationships that add value and create investments.


    Check out FranBridge Consulting for premier non-food franchise opportunities: travischappell.com/franbridge
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    568: MASHUP: Making Money Matter (ft. Jairek Robbins, Matt Manero, and Cole Hatter) Mar 24, 2021
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    Did you love the value that we are putting out in the show? LEAVE A REVIEW and tell us what you think about the episode so we can continue putting out great content just for you! Share this episode and help someone who wants to connect with world-class people.

    Jump on over to travischapell.com/makemypodcast and let my team make you your very own show!


    If you want to learn how to build YOUR network, check out my website a travischappell.com. You can connect with me on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. Be sure to join The Lounge to become part of the community that’s setting up REAL relationships that add value and create investments.


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    567: Steve Olsher | Founding Liquor.com and Podcast Magazine Mar 23, 2021
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    Today we’re going to deep dive into what it takes to be an entrepreneur and build a sustainable and scalable business. As you may have guessed from the title, Steve Olsher is the Founder/Editor-In-Chief of Podcast Magazine, NY Times bestselling author, and original Founder of Liquor.com.


    As a 30+ year entrepreneur, he is also a keynote speaker, NY Times Best Selling Author, and Creator of The New Media Summit. Steve is known as the world’s foremost reinvention expert famous for helping individuals and corporations become exceptionally clear on their WHAT – As in, the ONE thing they were created to do.


    Let’s dive right in and learn what it looked like founding liquor.com and Podcast Magazine from Steve’s point of view.


    Things you will learn in this episode:

    [00:01 - 06:11] Opening Segment

    • Sponsored ad
    • I introduce today’s guests Steve Olsher
    • Founder of liquor.com and podcast magazine
    • Online pioneer, What is Your What?, keynote speaker
    • Be sure to check out guestio.com and start booking
    • Steve gives some background into his life
    • Snapshot of 13 years old
    • Grew up just outside Chicago
    • Entrepreneurial from the get-go
    • Always around business conversations
    • Family background


    [06:12 - 14:37] Lessons Learned as an Entrepreneur

    • Following the path of the entrepreneur
    • People are wired differently
    • Making good
    • The desire to create your own destiny
    • Influences growing up
    • Surrounded by black culture
    • Becoming a DJ
    • Opening up his own club
    • Lessons learned in the business
    • Cash based business is good
    • Let things go
    • Why so many people give up so early
    • The problem with ego
    • Not letting things go and change


    [14:38 - 23:51] Founding Liquor.com and Podcast Magazine

    • The story around founding liquor.com
    • Liquor by wire
    • Going electronic in the ’90s
    • Buying the domain
    • Exponential growth
    • Selling of the company
    • Getting the company back
    • A word from our sponsor


    [23:52 - 33:30] Founding Podcast Magazine

    • The story around Podcast Magazine
    • Reinvention radio
    • The reach of podcasting
    • Teaching about podcasting
    • Becoming the hub of the conversation
    • Creating something for fans of podcasts
    • Getting into the bigger picture - Ear Control Pillars
    • Ear Control Pillars
    • The media pillar
    • Your network
    • Live Events
    • Technology


    [33:31 - 40:00] Closing Segment

    • Stand out relationships that helped you?
    • No one can build anything on their own
    • Who you know or What you know?
    • You don’t solve for what but for how
    • To solve How, you need to find the who
    • ThE RaNdOm RoUnd
    • How to engage with Steve
    • Links below
    • Final words



    Tweetable Quotes:

    “As an entrepreneur, you have to make good decisions, to make something sustainable and scalable.” - Steve Olsher


    “I love the fact that podcasting gives literally everyone the opportunity to extensively have their own broadcast channel where they can reach really anyone, really anywhere, at pretty much any time.” - Steve Olsher


    “I had to try to figure out, how do I become the hub of the wheel for this industry? How do I put myself in the conversation of podcasting without even being in the room to have those

    conversations.” - Steve Olsher



    Resources Mentioned:


    • Podcast Magazine
    • What is Your What Free Ebook



    Connect with Steve on LinkedIn, Facebook, and Twitter. Go and check out https://steveolsher.com/ and learn more.


    Did you love the value that we are putting out in the show? LEAVE A REVIEW and tell us what you think about the episode so we can continue putting out great content just for you! Share this episode and help someone who wants to connect with world-class people.

    Jump on over to travischappell.com/makemypodcast and let my team make you your very own show!


    If you want to learn how to build YOUR network, check out my website a travischappell.com. You can connect with me on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. Be sure to join The Lounge to become part of the community that’s setting up REAL relationships that add value and create investments.


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    566: Levi Lusko | Why You Shouldn't Avoid Struggle Mar 22, 2021
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    Whether you know it or not, you have skills and abilities that lend themselves towards your calling in life, and the struggles you go through to get there are what will get you ready for it.


    Here to talk about that today is Levi Lusko, Pastor and pioneer of Fresh Life Church, which has now grown to have multiple locations including Montana, Utah, Oregon, and Wyoming. Levi is a world-class communicator and leader, and through online streaming, the ministry reaches around the world. Levi is also the author of the bestselling books Through the Eyes of a Lion, Swipe Right and most recently I Declare War.


    I’m looking forward to Levi’s insights today as we dive into why you shouldn't avoid struggle and instead lean into it and let it build you up.


    Things you will learn in this episode:

    [00:01 - 05:36] Opening Segment

    • Sponsored ad
    • I introduce today’s guests Levi Lusko
    • Pastor of Fresh Life Church
    • Author of I Declare
    • Be sure to check out guestio.com and start booking
    • Levi gives some background into his life
    • Moving around as a kid
    • The fire of calling
    • The passion to speak


    [05:37 - 18:44] Why You Shouldn’t Avoid Struggle

    • Levi shares around finding your calling
    • Find what makes you angry
    • What do you enjoy doing
    • What do people ask your help with
    • Your definition of creativity
    • Creativity and genius
    • The parallel of God as a creator
    • Levi talks about walking into his calling
    • Starting in Bible College
    • Ministry is caught more than it’s taught
    • Finding mentorship
    • Not looking for glamor
    • Putting in the work in the small things
    • Develop your gift and character
    • Don’t despise small beginnings
    • Levi’s early days
    • The importance of education
    • Adhering to your learning style
    • A word from our sponsor


    [18:45 - 28:06] Following a Calling

    • Levi talks about becoming a lead pastor
    • Not a stepping stone to bigger things
    • The best way to make a difference
    • Getting put on the platform
    • The desire to build something
    • The analogy of a butterfly fighting out of a cocoon
    • The current state of Levi’s church
    • Current locations and future locations
    • Online streaming
    • Levi’s most recent book
    • How to get out of your own way
    • Links below


    [28:07 - 33:59] Closing Segment

    • Who you know or What you know?
    • Two is better than one
    • Compounding strength and experience
    • ThE RaNdOm RoUnd
    • How to engage with Levi
    • Links below
    • Final words



    Tweetable Quotes:


    “If you find a calling… there’s gonna challenges, there’s gonna be hard days, there’s gonna be setbacks where you fall flat on your butt.” - Levi Lusko


    “It’s like that classic Michael Jordan quote, ‘It’s what’s done in empty gyms, that fills up stadiums one day…’ Don’t despise the day of small beginnings.” - Levi Lusko


    “If you’re just handed everything one day, it’ll destroy you if you don’t have the weight of character and integrity you built up over time to support that kind of intensity.” - Levi Lusko



    Resources Mentioned:


    • I Declare War: Four Keys to Winning the Battle with Yourself
    • Audible Version


    Connect with Levi on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter. Go and check out https://levilusko.com/ and learn more about owning your struggle.


    Did you love the value that we are putting out in the show? LEAVE A REVIEW and tell us what you think about the episode so we can continue putting out great content just for you! Share this episode and help someone who wants to connect with world-class people.

    Jump on over to travischappell.com/makemypodcast and let my team make you your very own show!


    If you want to learn how to build YOUR network, check out my website a travischappell.com. You can connect with me on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. Be sure to join The Lounge to become part of the community that’s setting up REAL relationships that add value and create investments.


    Check out FranBridge Consulting for premier non-food franchise opportunities: travischappell.com/franbridge
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    565: BYN Breakdown | How to Create a Compelling Offer Mar 19, 2021
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    Did you love the value that we are putting out in the show? LEAVE A REVIEW and tell us what you think about the episode so we can continue putting out great content just for you! Share this episode and help someone who wants to connect with world-class people.

    Jump on over to travischapell.com/makemypodcast and let my team make you your very own show!


    If you want to learn how to build YOUR network, check out my website a travischappell.com. You can connect with me on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. Be sure to join The Lounge to become part of the community that’s setting up REAL relationships that add value and create investments.


    Check out FranBridge Consulting for premier non-food franchise opportunities: travischappell.com/franbridge
    Our Sponsors:
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    564: MASHUP | How to Conquer Fear ft. Ed Mylett, Lori Harder, and Nik Wallenda Mar 17, 2021
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    Did you love the value that we are putting out in the show? LEAVE A REVIEW and tell us what you think about the episode so we can continue putting out great content just for you! Share this episode and help someone who wants to connect with world-class people.

    Jump on over to travischapell.com/makemypodcast and let my team make you your very own show!


    If you want to learn how to build YOUR network, check out my website a travischappell.com. You can connect with me on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. Be sure to join The Lounge to become part of the community that’s setting up REAL relationships that add value and create investments.


    Check out FranBridge Consulting for premier non-food franchise opportunities: travischappell.com/franbridge
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    563: Kira Hug | Copywriting For Jasmine Star, James Wedmore, and More Mar 16, 2021
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    Copywriting has to be one of the most important factors in the success of the launch of a business. Today, I have one of the best in the business, Kira Hug. Kira helps small business owners and SaaS companies sell their ideas, products, services, and programs through copy that creates meaningful conversation. She’s unique in her approach because she allows business owners to ‘own their weird,’ and be fully true to themselves. She is also the co-host of the Copywriter Club Podcast.


    I can’t wait to hear more from Kira’s story and learn more about winning copywriting that successfully launched for names like Jasmine Star and James Wedmore.



    Things you will learn in this episode:

    [00:01 - 06:40] Opening Segment

    • Sponsored ad
    • I introduce today’s guest Kira Hug
    • Host of Copywriter Club Podcast
    • Copywriter for many big-name, successful launches
    • Be sure to check out guestio.com and start booking
    • Kira gives us some background
    • Moving to Virginia during the awkward phase
    • Daughter of a pilot
    • Always into community building and connection
    • Into art and creativity as a kid
    • Following the artist’s path


    [06:41 - 16:52] Relationships Paving the Path to Success

    • Kira talks about her college experience
    • Going to Virginia Tech for art
    • Starting in Graphic Design
    • Hanging out with a wide group of friends
    • Taking the different experiences into business
    • Relationships that led to a new path
    • Moving to NY from zero
    • From Enterprise Rent-A-Car to Este Lauder
    • Turned off to the corporate world
    • Going into the nonprofit world
    • The insights to prioritize learning and growth over a paycheck
    • Disillusionment with corporate jobs
    • Keeping the curiosity going till something sticks
    • The entrepreneurial itch
    • A word from our sponsor


    [16:53 - 25:53] Copywriting for Jasmine Star, and James Wedmore

    • Kira talks about how she got started into copywriting
    • Working at a startup
    • Hired to write copy for friends at first
    • Encouraged by friends to keep doing copy
    • Kira’s ascension in the copy world
    • Finding good clients fast by investing in her brand
    • Invited to teach at a Mastermind retreat
    • Getting into the right room and saying yes
    • The progression to today
    • Going into partnership
    • Hosing a podcast together
    • Creating a community for copywriters


    [25:54 - 35:30] Closing Segment

    • Who you know or What you know?
    • People are always first
    • You have to bring something to the table
    • Success comes from connecting and community
    • Unlikely relationship that became a path to success
    • Getting onto podcasts and networking
    • Example from Mike Kim
    • ThE RaNdOm RoUnd
    • How to engage with Kira
    • Links below
    • Final words



    Tweetable Quotes:

    “I knew that I wasn’t ready to become an entrepreneur, but I knew that that was finally the direction that I saw myself moving…” - Kira Hug


    “I think the power of networking and being in the right room; if you can get in that right room with the right clients, it can be such a true game changer.” - Kira Hug



    Resources Mentioned:


    • Copywriter Club Podcast
    • Copywriter Club Facebook Group
    • Spooked Podcasts
    • The Copywriter Club Website



    Connect with Kira on Instagram and Twitter. Definitely go and check out https://kirahug.com/ to learn even more.



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    Jump on over to travischappell.com/makemypodcast and let my team make you your very own show!


    If you want to learn how to build YOUR network, check out my website a travischappell.com. You can connect with me on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. Be sure to join The Lounge to become part of the community that’s setting up REAL relationships that add value and create investments.


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    562: Emma Rose Cohen | Making Sexy Straws and Forks Mar 15, 2021
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    We’ve all heard of the impact that plastic has on the environment, and while most of us are concerned, few jump into action. Emma Rose Cohen is one such person who spends 98% of my time obsessing over single-use plastic waste and trying to figure out how to eliminate it from our daily lives.


    Emma is the CEO and Founder of the Final Straw, where her passion for sustainability met radical action by creating innovative and fun alternatives to single-use plastics. She launched Final’s first product, FinalStraw, on Kickstarter with a goal of raising $12,500. In a matter of weeks, the campaign raised $1.89 million and later went on to be featured on ABC’s Shark Tank.


    Let’s get right into Emma’s story and learn how making sexy straws and forks led her to world-renowned success while fueling her purpose with passion.



    Things you will learn in this episode:

    [00:01 - 05:59] Opening Segment

    • Sponsored ad
    • I introduce today’s guests Emma Rose Cohen
    • Final Straw
    • Master from Harvard in sustainability
    • Be sure to check out guestio.com and start booking
    • Emma gives us some background
    • High energy as a child
    • Entrepreneurial from a young age
    • School life
    • From partier to pragmatic


    [06:00 - 17:23] Instant Kickstarter Success

    • Emma shares about her time at Harvard
    • Mentorship that led there
    • The applicability of a Masters program
    • Growing passion for sustainability
    • Humans are the only creatures that create unnatural waste
    • Figuring out what to do next
    • Miserable at the lab
    • Skiing as a passion
    • Timing, luck, and hard work
    • Emma talks about the tactics around building the business
    • Starting on Kickstarter
    • Test marketing with people first
    • Building a pre-campaign strategy
    • Early prototypes
    • Working with friends to create a product
    • The instant success
    • The experience
    • The moment people say yes
    • A word from our sponsor


    [17:24 - 23:02] Making Sexy Straw and Forks

    • Emma shares the growth since finding success
    • Grateful for every sale, but not motivated by money
    • Doing something innovative
    • New products
    • Biggie Straw
    • Literally, suck anything!
    • Sustainability can be a fun thing
    • Agents of change
    • Releasing the sexy fork and spork
    • Moving beyond the straw
    • Small steps towards a huge win
    • The various experiences that go into it


    [23:03 - 29:07] Closing Segment

    • Who you know or What you know?
    • Not mutually exclusive
    • It’s impossible to be successful in business without connections
    • You can learn more from others
    • ThE RaNdOm RoUnd
    • How to engage with Emma
    • Links below
    • Final words



    Tweetable Quotes:

    “Humans are the only creatures in the world that create waste, and I think really, it’s just fundamentally a design flaw in both the systems and the products we’re creating.” - Emma Rose Cohen


    “To have an idea and be excited about it is one thing, but to have the world say YES… it’s like the most beautiful feeling.” - Emma Rose Cohen


    “Sustainability can be a sexy, fun, sparkly party - and that’s gonna bring a lot more eyeballs than the kind of traditional ‘Sarah McLachlan Peta’ vibe.” - Emma Rose Cohen



    Resources Mentioned:


    • The Aligned Podcast
    • The Surrender Experiment



    Connect with Emma on Instagram, LinkedIn, and Twitter. Be sure to visit https://final.co/ to learn even more.



    Did you love the value that we are putting out in the show? LEAVE A REVIEW and tell us what you think about the episode so we can continue putting out great content just for you! Share this episode and help someone who wants to connect with world-class people.

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    If you want to learn how to build YOUR network, check out my website a travischappell.com. You can connect with me on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. Be sure to join The Lounge to become part of the community that’s setting up REAL relationships that add value and create investments.


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    561: Freestyle Friday | Become a River Tour Guide Mar 11, 2021
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    Did you love the value that we are putting out in the show? LEAVE A REVIEW and tell us what you think about the episode so we can continue putting out great content just for you! Share this episode and help someone who wants to connect with world-class people.

    Jump on over to travischapel.com/makemypodcast and let my team make you your very own show!


    If you want to learn how to build YOUR network, check out my website a travischappell.com. You can connect with me on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. Be sure to join The Lounge to become part of the community that’s setting up REAL relationships that add value and create investments.


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