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    Tokenized

    This show is for the builders, who see stablecoins and tokenized real-world assets as the next step in the finance industry. The tokenization of all assets.

    This show will come to your feed every week featuring the latest news, with views from the operators, to the builders, and the people in markets and in Crypto who see tokenization as the credible future of finance.

    Join Simon Taylor and Cuy Sheffield, Head of Crypto at Visa for weekly nerd outs on all things stablecoins and the tokenization of real world assets.

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    Latest Episodes:
    Interview: Zach Abrams, CEO & Co-founder of Bridge Dec 04, 2025
    Show notes

    In this bonus episode, Simon Taylor, Head of Market Development @ Tempo is joined live from Stripe Stablecoin Day in London, by Zach Abrams, CEO & Co-Founder @ Bridge to discuss the shift from small developers to large banks and fintechs adopting stablecoins, the critical role of last-mile providers in stablecoin adoption and more!

    Timestamps:

    • 00:00 Introduction
    • 04:20 Shift from small developers to large banks and fintechs adopting stablecoins
    • 06:02 Cross-border payments as a primary stablecoin use case
    • 08:24 The critical role of last-mile providers in stablecoin adoption
    • 10:15 Need for diversified stablecoin issuance beyond current dominant players
    • 12:17 Managing fragmentation risk through seamless stablecoin interoperability
    • 14:34 Regulatory flexibility and future oversight in global stablecoin markets
    • 15:34 Corporate treasury management and operational efficiency with stablecoins
    • 18:52 Neo banks leveraging stablecoins for yield and global accounts

    Tokenized is sponsored by Visa

    A world leader in digital payments, Visa is bridging the gap between traditional financial institutions and innovative blockchain networks, helping players in the payments ecosystem navigate the ever-evolving world of tokenized fiat currencies with confidence and ease. Learn more at visa.com/crypto.

    Tokenized is presented by Bridge, a Stripe company.

    Just like the internet made information global, stablecoins are making money global. And Bridge, a Stripe company, is the infrastructure powering that shift. Built for speed, scale, and simplicity, Bridge helps businesses send, store, convert, and spend stablecoins instantly, all without borders or having to navigate the complexities of crypto. Learn more at bridge.xyz


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    We’d also like to remind you that the views or opinions of our contributors today are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the companies they are representing. Nothing we say should be taken as tax, financial, investment or legal advice, do your own research!

    Music by Henry McLean


    Why Klarna’s Stablecoin Is More Than PR Dec 01, 2025
    Show notes

    On Ep. 59 of Tokenized, Simon Taylor, GTM @ Tempo is joined by Nilan Peiris, Chief Product Officer @ Wise and Luca Cosentino, Head of Crypto @ Cross River to discuss KlarnaUSD launch, corporate treasury use cases for stablecoins and more!

    Timestamps:

    • 00:00 Introduction
    • 02:38 KlarnaUSD launch for internal treasury operations and yield generation
    • 05:53 Corporate treasury use cases for stablecoins
    • 07:06 Instant merchant payouts and settlement using stablecoins as an abstraction layer
    • 11:03 Cross-border payments and stablecoins for remittances and dollarization
    • 17:04 Cross River's platform unifying stablecoin and fiat flows to eliminate pre-funding
    • 24:56 Building infrastructure for tokenization and future financial use cases
    • 28:40 Paxos acquisition of Fortify for MPC wallet services and security
    • 32:01 Aave app and neobanks offering DeFi lending and borrowing via stablecoins

    Tokenized is sponsored by Visa

    A world leader in digital payments, Visa is bridging the gap between traditional financial institutions and innovative blockchain networks, helping players in the payments ecosystem navigate the ever-evolving world of tokenized fiat currencies with confidence and ease. Learn more at visa.com/crypto.

    Tokenized is presented by Bridge, a Stripe company.

    Just like the internet made information global, stablecoins are making money global. And Bridge, a Stripe company, is the infrastructure powering that shift. Built for speed, scale, and simplicity, Bridge helps businesses send, store, convert, and spend stablecoins instantly, all without borders or having to navigate the complexities of crypto. Learn more at bridge.xyz

    Tokenized is also presented by Fireblocks

    With over $100 billion in monthly stablecoin volume, Fireblocks powers stablecoin strategies at scale with infrastructure that enables PSPs, fintechs, remitters and banks to issue, move, hold, and manage stablecoins. And it’s all done securely, at scale, and with built-in compliance. Learn more at fireblocks.com


    ***
    We’d also like to remind you that the views or opinions of our contributors today are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the companies they are representing. Nothing we say should be taken as tax, financial, investment or legal advice, do your own research!

    Music by Henry McLean


    Reinventing MoneyGram With Stablecoins Nov 28, 2025
    Show notes

    On Ep. 2 of Stablecoin Stories, Simon Taylor, GTM @ Tempo and Ran Goldi, VP Payments, Fireblocks are joined by Anthony Soohoo, Chairman and CEO of MoneyGram to discuss the transformation of MoneyGram's mission, MoneyGram Ramps and more!

    Timestamps:

    • 00:00 Introduction
    • 04:48 The refounding and transformation of MoneyGram's mission
    • 09:42 Identifying real customer problems before applying stablecoins
    • 13:13 How stablecoins save customers time, effort, and money
    • 16:00 The B2B benefits of stablecoins for corporate treasury
    • 22:22 MoneyGram Ramps: Bridging digital assets and the physical world
    • 25:32 Launching the digital wallet and choosing Colombia first
    • 33:12 The convergence of AI and programmable money with stablecoins

    Tokenized is sponsored by Visa

    A world leader in digital payments, Visa is bridging the gap between traditional financial institutions and innovative blockchain networks, helping players in the payments ecosystem navigate the ever-evolving world of tokenized fiat currencies with confidence and ease. Learn more at visa.com/crypto.

    Tokenized is also presented by Fireblocks

    With over $100 billion in monthly stablecoin volume, Fireblocks powers stablecoin strategies at scale with infrastructure that enables PSPs, fintechs, remitters and banks to issue, move, hold, and manage stablecoins. And it’s all done securely, at scale, and with built-in compliance. Learn more at fireblocks.com


    ***
    We’d also like to remind you that the views or opinions of our contributors today are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the companies they are representing. Nothing we say should be taken as tax, financial, investment or legal advice, do your own research!

    Music by Henry McLean


    Banks Are All in on Tokenized Deposits Nov 24, 2025
    Show notes

    On Ep. 58 of Tokenized, Cuy Sheffield, Head of Crypto @ Visa, is joined by Sam McIngvale, Head of Product @ OP Labs and Lesley Chavkin, Ribbit Capital to discuss agentic commerce, traditional AI vs agentic AI and more!

    Timestamps:

    • 00:00 Introduction
    • 01:35 Defining agentic commerce and its impact on shopping
    • 04:50 How agentic AI enables personalization at scale
    • 06:44 Differences between traditional AI and agentic AI
    • 09:24 The shift from reactive to proactive banking
    • 13:46 Current adoption curve for agentic AI in finance
    • 15:01 Promising use cases for agentic AI in commerce
    • 17:27 Autonomous agents and redefining customer engagement
    • 21:45 Barriers to adopting AI at scale in organizations
    • 26:38 Building trust and managing risk in AI decisions

    Tokenized is sponsored by Visa

    A world leader in digital payments, Visa is bridging the gap between traditional financial institutions and innovative blockchain networks, helping players in the payments ecosystem navigate the ever-evolving world of tokenized fiat currencies with confidence and ease. Learn more at visa.com/crypto.

    Tokenized is presented by Bridge, a Stripe company.

    Just like the internet made information global, stablecoins are making money global. And Bridge, a Stripe company, is the infrastructure powering that shift. Built for speed, scale, and simplicity, Bridge helps businesses send, store, convert, and spend stablecoins instantly, all without borders or having to navigate the complexities of crypto. Learn more at bridge.xyz

    Tokenized is also presented by Centrifuge

    With over $1 billion in total value locked, Centrifuge works with major institutional partners to tokenize and distribute their funds — and with capital allocators onchain to invest and manage yield. Through every crypto cycle, Centrifuge has been building — and today, it’s the market leader in tokenizing real-world assets. Learn more at centrifuge.io


    ***
    We’d also like to remind you that the views or opinions of our contributors today are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the companies they are representing. Nothing we say should be taken as tax, financial, investment or legal advice, do your own research!

    Music by Henry McLean


    Agentic Commerce: How Will It Work? Ft. Louis Amira Nov 20, 2025
    Show notes

    On Ep. 2 of Agentic Commerce, Cuy Sheffield, Head of Crypto @ Visa, and Bam Azizi, CEO & Founder @ Mesh are joined by Louis Amira, Co-Founder & CEO @ Circuit & Chisel to discuss the evolution of agentic commerce protocols, explosive growth of the x402 protocol and more!


    Timestamps:

    • 00:00 Introduction
    • 06:16 Evolution of agentic commerce protocols
    • 11:57 Fragmentation in crypto and agentic payments
    • 17:14 Different protocols for different use cases
    • 22:07 Building agents to bootstrap protocols
    • 30:14 Explosive growth of the x402 protocol
    • 35:45 The need for micro-transactions between agents
    • 39:42 Crypto wallets as universal API keys

    Tokenized is sponsored by Visa
    A world leader in digital payments, Visa is bridging the gap between traditional financial institutions and innovative blockchain networks, helping players in the payments ecosystem navigate the ever-evolving world of tokenized fiat currencies with confidence and ease. Learn more at visa.com/crypto.


    Tokenized is also presented by Mesh
    As the first global crypto payments network, Mesh connects over 300 wallets, exchanges and payments platforms, and enables anyone to pay and get paid instantly, anywhere, in any asset. Mesh makes digital transactions seamless, secure and universal, fuelling the next era of agentic commerce. Learn more at meshpay.com

    ***

    We’d also like to remind you that the views or opinions of our contributors today are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the companies they are representing. Nothing we say should be taken as tax, financial, investment or legal advice, do your own research!

    Music by Henry McLean


    Onchain Lending in 2025 Ft. Paul Frambot Nov 18, 2025
    Show notes

    In this bonus episode of Tokenized recorded at Money20/20, Cuy Sheffield, Head of Crypto @ Visa is joined by Paul Frambot, Co-Founder & CEO @ Morpho to discuss on-chain lending in 2025 and more!

    Timestamps:

    • 00:00 Introduction
    • 02:09 Stablecoins as checking accounts
    • 02:58 The evolution of DeFi and smart contract lending
    • 03:59 Transition from crypto collateral to real-world assets
    • 07:24 Building trust for uncollateralized on-chain lending
    • 09:13 Morpho's shift from application to infrastructure
    • 11:57 Transparency benefits of on-chain lending protocols
    • 13:27 Permissionless infrastructure with compliance capabilities
    • 14:37 Banks integrating with on-chain lending networks
    • 16:16 Global cross-border lending and regulatory approach

    ***

    This episode is brought to you by Visa

    A world leader in digital payments, Visa is bridging the gap between traditional financial institutions and innovative blockchain networks, helping players in the payments ecosystem navigate the ever-evolving world of tokenized fiat currencies with confidence and ease. Learn more at visa.com/crypto.

    ***

    We’d also like to remind you that the views or opinions of our contributors today are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the companies they are representing. Nothing we say should be taken as tax, financial, investment or legal advice, do your own research!

    Music by Henry McLean


    Cash App Launches Stablecoins & JP Morgan Goes Onchain Nov 17, 2025
    Show notes

    On Ep. 57 of Tokenized, Simon Taylor, GTM @ Tempo is joined by Joao Reginatto, Chief Strategy Officer @ M0, Mark Greenberg, Global Head of Consumer @ Kraken and Kevin Lehtiniitty, CEO @ Borderless to discuss M0 and MoonPay partnership for stable coin issuance, benefits of companies creating their own stablecoins and more!

    Timestamps:

    • 00:00 Introduction
    • 01:38 M0 and MoonPay partnership for stablecoin issuance
    • 05:16 Benefits of companies creating their own stablecoins
    • 06:03 Consumer confusion with multiple stablecoin options
    • 09:07 JP Morgan's deposit token on Base network
    • 10:48 Tokenized deposits vs stablecoins debate
    • 20:57 Cash App integrating stablecoins for users
    • 28:57 Circle's on-chain FX engine and ARC chain
    • 37:09 Coinbase's token offering platform and UK savings account
    • 44:52 SoFi Bank launches in-app crypto trading

    Tokenized is sponsored by Visa

    A world leader in digital payments, Visa is bridging the gap between traditional financial institutions and innovative blockchain networks, helping players in the payments ecosystem navigate the ever-evolving world of tokenized fiat currencies with confidence and ease. Learn more at visa.com/crypto.

    Tokenized is presented by Bridge, a Stripe company.

    Just like the internet made information global, stablecoins are making money global. And Bridge, a Stripe company, is the infrastructure powering that shift. Built for speed, scale, and simplicity, Bridge helps businesses send, store, convert, and spend stablecoins instantly, all without borders or having to navigate the complexities of crypto. Learn more at bridge.xyz

    Tokenized is also presented by Fireblocks

    With over $100 billion in monthly stablecoin volume, Fireblocks powers stablecoin strategies at scale with infrastructure that enables PSPs, fintechs, remitters and banks to issue, move, hold, and manage stablecoins. And it’s all done securely, at scale, and with built-in compliance. Learn more at fireblocks.com


    ***
    We’d also like to remind you that the views or opinions of our contributors today are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the companies they are representing. Nothing we say should be taken as tax, financial, investment or legal advice, do your own research!

    Music by Henry McLean


    B2B Stablecoin Payments are Hot Right Now Ft. Rob Hadick Nov 13, 2025
    Show notes

    On Ep. 6 of Stablecoin Stats, Anthony Yim, Co-Founder @ Artemis and Andrew Van Aken, Data Scientist @ Artemis are joined by Rob Hadick, General Partner @ Dragonfly to discuss explosive growth in B2B stablecoin payment volumes, the impact of stablecoins on traditional banking and more!

    Timestamps:

    • 00:00 Introduction
    • 06:09 Explosive growth in B2B stablecoin payment volumes
    • 10:20 Limited P2P stablecoin growth and market dynamics
    • 14:42 Distribution of stablecoin usage in payments and lending
    • 18:27 Stablecoin issuers are expanding services to compete with banks
    • 23:38 On-chain card spend growth and Visa settlement integration
    • 29:11 Early stage opportunities and challenges with agentic commerce
    • 32:50 Reviewing the winners in the stablecoin payments landscape
    • 35:20 The impact of stablecoins on traditional banking and Plaid

    This episode is brought to you by Visa

    A world leader in digital payments, Visa is bridging the gap between traditional financial institutions and innovative blockchain networks, helping players in the payments ecosystem navigate the ever-evolving world of tokenized fiat currencies with confidence and ease. Learn more at visa.com/crypto.

    This podcast is powered by Artemis


    ***
    We’d also like to remind you that the views or opinions of our contributors today are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the companies they are representing. Nothing we say should be taken as tax, financial, investment or legal advice, do your own research!

    Music by Henry McLean


    Jamie Dimon Loves Crypto Now Ft. Haonan Li & Stone Atwine Nov 10, 2025
    Show notes

    On Ep. 56 of Tokenized, Simon Taylor, GTM @ Tempo, and Cuy Sheffield, Head of Crypto @ Visa, are joined by Haonan Li, CEO & Co-Founder @ Codex and Stone Atwine, CEO @ Co-Founder @ Eversend to discuss Jamie Dimon on stablecoins, financial institutions shifting from strategy to execution on stablecoins and more!

    Timestamps:

    • 00:00 Introduction
    • 03:10 Ripple's acquisition strategy and expansion into custody services
    • 06:26 Evolution of custody services and embedded wallet solutions
    • 11:27 Ripple's equity valuation versus XRP token dynamics
    • 13:44 Jamie Dimon and Larry Fink on tokenization and stablecoins
    • 17:54 Interplay between tokenized assets and stable coins as collateral
    • 20:30 Streaming money versus net settlement in payment systems
    • 25:23 Stablecoins for unidirectional cross-border payment collections
    • 29:28 Securitize going public as a tokenization-focused company
    • 34:44 Financial institutions shifting from strategy to execution on stablecoins

    Tokenized is sponsored by Visa

    A world leader in digital payments, Visa is bridging the gap between traditional financial institutions and innovative blockchain networks, helping players in the payments ecosystem navigate the ever-evolving world of tokenized fiat currencies with confidence and ease. Learn more at visa.com/crypto.

    Tokenized is presented by Bridge, a Stripe company.

    Just like the internet made information global, stablecoins are making money global. And Bridge, a Stripe company, is the infrastructure powering that shift. Built for speed, scale, and simplicity, Bridge helps businesses send, store, convert, and spend stablecoins instantly, all without borders or having to navigate the complexities of crypto. Learn more at bridge.xyz

    Tokenized is also presented by Centrifuge

    With over $1 billion in total value locked, Centrifuge works with major institutional partners to tokenize and distribute their funds — and with capital allocators onchain to invest and manage yield. Through every crypto cycle, Centrifuge has been building — and today, it’s the market leader in tokenizing real-world assets. Learn more at centrifuge.io


    ***
    We’d also like to remind you that the views or opinions of our contributors today are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the companies they are representing. Nothing we say should be taken as tax, financial, investment or legal advice, do your own research!

    Music by Henry McLean


    Agentic Commerce: The ACP Protocol With Stripe Ft. Jeff Weinstein & Steve Kaliski Nov 06, 2025
    Show notes

    On Ep. 1 of Agentic Commerce, Simon Taylor, GTM @ Tempo, and Bam Azizi, CEO & Founder @ Mesh are joined by Jeff Weinstein, Product Lead @ Stripe and Steve Kaliski, Principal Software Engineer @ Stripe to discuss the role of AI agents in the future economy and more!


    Timestamps:

    • 00:00 Introduction
    • 02:32 The role of AI agents in the future economy
    • 05:00 Moving from search-based discovery to AI-assisted execution
    • 10:00 Stablecoins as a global, borderless payment method for agents
    • 15:00 Managing payment failure modes in agentic commerce flows
    • 20:00 How agents will change consumer shopping behavior
    • 25:00 New business models and fraud patterns with AI agents
    • 30:00 Token-based billing and usage for AI services
    • 35:00 Open standards and competition in agentic payments

    Tokenized is sponsored by Visa
    A world leader in digital payments, Visa is bridging the gap between traditional financial institutions and innovative blockchain networks, helping players in the payments ecosystem navigate the ever-evolving world of tokenized fiat currencies with confidence and ease. Learn more at visa.com/crypto.


    Tokenized is also presented by Mesh
    As the first global crypto payments network, Mesh connects over 300 wallets, exchanges and payments platforms, and enables anyone to pay and get paid instantly, anywhere, in any asset. Mesh makes digital transactions seamless, secure and universal, fuelling the next era of agentic commerce. Learn more at meshpay.com

    ***

    We’d also like to remind you that the views or opinions of our contributors today are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the companies they are representing. Nothing we say should be taken as tax, financial, investment or legal advice, do your own research!

    Music by Henry McLean


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