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    Tokenized

    This show is for the builders, who see stablecoins and tokenized real-world assets as the next step in the finance industry. The tokenization of all assets.

    This show will come to your feed every week featuring the latest news, with views from the operators, to the builders, and the people in markets and in Crypto who see tokenization as the credible future of finance.

    Join Simon Taylor and Cuy Sheffield, Head of Crypto at Visa for weekly nerd outs on all things stablecoins and the tokenization of real world assets.

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    Latest Episodes:
    How Stablecoins and Deposit Tokens Will Coexist Ft. Garrett Harper, Ran Goldi & Basak Toprak Sep 15, 2025
    Show notes

    On Ep. 48 of Tokenized, Simon Taylor, Head of Content & Strategy @ Sardine, is joined by Garrett Harper, Head of Partnerships & Comms, Squads, Ran Goldi, VP Payments, Fireblocks and Basak Toprak, EMEA Head, Kinexys Digital Payments, Kinexys by J.P. Morgan to discuss how stablecoins and deposit tokens will coexist and more!

    Timestamps:

    • 00:00 Introduction
    • 03:28 Hyperliquid decentralized derivatives market and stable coin bidding war
    • 09:18 Public blockchain adoption as a payment rail beyond crypto
    • 12:53 Growth of stable coin volume and new durable business models
    • 19:11 On-chain FX settlement with Kinexys by JP Morgan
    • 24:11 Interoperability between crypto natives and tokenized bank deposits
    • 32:52 Programmable payments use cases and operational benefits
    • 41:25 Tokenization of securities and the role of regulated exchanges
    • 48:16 The future of tokenized assets and institutional adoption pathways

    Tokenized is sponsored by Visa

    A world leader in digital payments, Visa is bridging the gap between traditional financial institutions and innovative blockchain networks, helping players in the payments ecosystem navigate the ever-evolving world of tokenized fiat currencies with confidence and ease. Learn more at visa.com/crypto.

    Tokenized is presented by Bridge, a Stripe company.

    Just like the internet made information global, stablecoins are making money global. And Bridge, a Stripe company, is the infrastructure powering that shift. Built for speed, scale, and simplicity, Bridge helps businesses send, store, convert, and spend stablecoins instantly, all without borders or having to navigate the complexities of crypto. Learn more at bridge.xyz

    Tokenized is also presented by Centrifuge

    With over $1 billion in total value locked, Centrifuge works with major institutional partners to tokenize and distribute their funds — and with capital allocators onchain to invest and manage yield. Through every crypto cycle, Centrifuge has been building — and today, it’s the market leader in tokenizing real-world assets. Learn more at centrifuge.io


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    We’d also like to remind you that the views or opinions of our contributors today are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the companies they are representing. Nothing we say should be taken as tax, financial, investment or legal advice, do your own research!

    Music by Henry McLean


    Ethereum’s Stablecoin Dominance: Will It Last? Stablecoin Stats September 2025 Sep 11, 2025
    Show notes

    On Ep. 4 of Stablecoin Stats, Anthony Yim, Co-Founder @ Artemis and Andrew Van Aken, Data Scientist @ Artemis discuss Ethereum's $15bn stablecoin supply growth and more!

    Timestamps:

    • 00:00 Introduction
    • 02:15 Tether and PIX payment adoption in Brazil
    • 03:32 Ethereum's $15bn stablecoin supply growth
    • 06:31 Binance as a major stablecoin holder and distributor
    • 08:22 PYUSD usage for small-value payments and transfers
    • 11:36 USDe growth driven by DeFi lending strategies
    • 14:08 USDG adoption by institutions for settlement
    • 17:14 Debate on Ethereum dominance vs multi-chain future
    • 20:00 Venture capital raises in stablecoin infrastructure
    • 21:15 USD1's rapid growth and branding strategy

    This episode is brought to you by Visa

    A world leader in digital payments, Visa is bridging the gap between traditional financial institutions and innovative blockchain networks, helping players in the payments ecosystem navigate the ever-evolving world of tokenized fiat currencies with confidence and ease. Learn more at visa.com/crypto.

    This podcast is powered by Artemis


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    We’d also like to remind you that the views or opinions of our contributors today are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the companies they are representing. Nothing we say should be taken as tax, financial, investment or legal advice, do your own research!

    Music by Henry McLean


    Payments Blockchain Tempo & Tokenized Stocks Surge Ft. Chris Harmse & Eric Piscini Sep 08, 2025
    Show notes

    On Ep. 47 of Tokenized, Simon Taylor, GTM @ Tempo is joined by Chris Harmse, Co-Founder @ BVNK and Eric Piscini, CEO @ Hashgraph to discuss payments blockchain Tempo, Hedera's launch of Frontier stable token, tokenizing US stocks and more!

    Timestamps:

    • 00:00 Introduction
    • 05:37 Why payments need their own dedicated blockchain
      08:38 Success of crypto projects without native tokens
      10:00 Tension between distribution and neutrality in stablecoins
      22:43 Social media discourse on Tempo's L1 vs L2 decision
      27:50 Importance of sub-second finality for payment reliability
      35:00 Libra's legacy and timing in the stablecoin landscape
      45:00 Fragmentation in stablecoin networks and Fireblocks launch
      53:46 APAC's growing role in stablecoin adoption and regulation

    Tokenized is sponsored by Visa

    A world leader in digital payments, Visa is bridging the gap between traditional financial institutions and innovative blockchain networks, helping players in the payments ecosystem navigate the ever-evolving world of tokenized fiat currencies with confidence and ease. Learn more at visa.com/crypto.

    Tokenized is presented by Bridge, a Stripe company.

    Just like the internet made information global, stablecoins are making money global. And Bridge, a Stripe company, is the infrastructure powering that shift. Built for speed, scale, and simplicity, Bridge helps businesses send, store, convert, and spend stablecoins instantly, all without borders or having to navigate the complexities of crypto. Learn more at bridge.xyz

    Tokenized is also presented by Fireblocks

    With over $100 billion in monthly stablecoin volume, Fireblocks powers stablecoin strategies at scale with infrastructure that enables PSPs, fintechs, remitters and banks to issue, move, hold, and manage stablecoins. And it’s all done securely, at scale, and with built-in compliance. Learn more at fireblocks.com


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    We’d also like to remind you that the views or opinions of our contributors today are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the companies they are representing. Nothing we say should be taken as tax, financial, investment or legal advice, do your own research!

    Music by Henry McLean


    Every Bank Should Tokenize Deposits Ft. Andrew Huang & Bhaji Illuminati Sep 01, 2025
    Show notes

    On Ep. 46 of Tokenized, Simon Taylor, Head of Content & Strategy @ Sardine, and Cuy Sheffield, Head of Crypto @ Visa, are joined by Andrew Huang, Founder @ Conduit and Bhaji Illuminati, CEO @ Centrifuge to discuss tokenized deposits vs stablecoins in banking, regulatory considerations for tokenized deposits and more!

    Timestamps:

    • 00:00 Introduction
    • 01:38 Centrifuge's role in tokenizing real world assets since 2017
    • 04:43 Debate on tokenized deposits vs stablecoins in banking
    • 09:41 Privacy and compliance challenges for on-chain bank deposits
    • 13:44 Regulatory considerations for tokenized deposits and systemic risk
    • 23:34 Aave's RWA Market Horizon for on-chain collateralized lending
    • 27:20 Institutional adoption of tokenized real world assets in DeFi
    • 34:09 New solutions for verifying stablecoin issuers and preventing fraud
    • 41:56 Growth of stablecoin-linked cards and global payment infrastructure
    • 45:07 White-label stablecoin issuance and interoperability between chains

    Tokenized is sponsored by Visa

    A world leader in digital payments, Visa is bridging the gap between traditional financial institutions and innovative blockchain networks, helping players in the payments ecosystem navigate the ever-evolving world of tokenized fiat currencies with confidence and ease. Learn more at visa.com/crypto.

    Tokenized is presented by Bridge, a Stripe company.

    Just like the internet made information global, stablecoins are making money global. And Bridge, a Stripe company, is the infrastructure powering that shift. Built for speed, scale, and simplicity, Bridge helps businesses send, store, convert, and spend stablecoins instantly, all without borders or having to navigate the complexities of crypto. Learn more at bridge.xyz

    Tokenized is also presented by Centrifuge

    With over $1 billion in total value locked, Centrifuge works with major institutional partners to tokenize and distribute their funds — and with capital allocators onchain to invest and manage yield. Through every crypto cycle, Centrifuge has been building — and today, it’s the market leader in tokenizing real-world assets. Learn more at centrifuge.io


    ***
    We’d also like to remind you that the views or opinions of our contributors today are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the companies they are representing. Nothing we say should be taken as tax, financial, investment or legal advice, do your own research!

    Music by Henry McLean


    The Stablecoin Playbook for TradFi Ft. Sam Broner Aug 25, 2025
    Show notes

    On Ep. 45 of Tokenized, Simon Taylor, Head of Content & Strategy @ Sardine, and Cuy Sheffield, Head of Crypto @ Visa, are joined by Sam Broner, Partner @ a16z crypto to discuss Fintech companies building their own blockchains for stablecoins, decentralization in corporate blockchain strategies and more!

    Timestamps:

    • 00:00 Introduction
    • 03:02 A New Playbook for TradFi: Multi-chain vs own chain
    • 09:43 Merchant role in payments ecosystem and fee pressures
    • 14:53 Metamask MUSD as a store of value product
    • 17:51 Timeline for stablecoin and chain abstraction interoperability
    • 21:52 China's potential Yuan-backed stablecoin response to US dominance
    • 27:57 Market reaction to the Genesis Bill and Tether
    • 32:12 Privacy solutions and their role in stablecoin adoption
    • 38:59 Challenges for large financial institutions adopting stablecoins
    • 46:06 Bullish IPO's watershed moment for stablecoin treasury use

    Tokenized is sponsored by Visa

    A world leader in digital payments, Visa is bridging the gap between traditional financial institutions and innovative blockchain networks, helping players in the payments ecosystem navigate the ever-evolving world of tokenized fiat currencies with confidence and ease. Learn more at visa.com/crypto.

    Tokenized is presented by Bridge, a Stripe company.

    Just like the internet made information global, stablecoins are making money global. And Bridge, a Stripe company, is the infrastructure powering that shift. Built for speed, scale, and simplicity, Bridge helps businesses send, store, convert, and spend stablecoins instantly, all without borders or having to navigate the complexities of crypto. Learn more at bridge.xyz

    Tokenized is also presented by Fireblocks

    With over $100 billion in monthly stablecoin volume, Fireblocks powers stablecoin strategies at scale with infrastructure that enables PSPs, fintechs, remitters and banks to issue, move, hold, and manage stablecoins. And it’s all done securely, at scale, and with built-in compliance. Learn more at fireblocks.com


    ***
    We’d also like to remind you that the views or opinions of our contributors today are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the companies they are representing. Nothing we say should be taken as tax, financial, investment or legal advice, do your own research!

    Music by Henry McLean


    Stablecoin Chains - The Future of Payments? Ft. Chainlink CEO Sergey Nazarov Aug 18, 2025
    Show notes

    On Ep. 44 of Tokenized, Simon Taylor, Head of Content & Strategy @ Sardine, and Cuy Sheffield, Head of Crypto @ Visa, are joined by Sergey Nazarov, CEO @ Chainlink to discuss Chainlink's role as an Oracle platform for smart contracts, Circle launching their own L1 blockchain and more!

    Timestamps:

    • 00:00 Introduction
    • 00:37 Chainlink's role as an Oracle platform for smart contracts
    • 03:45 Programmable money and the advantages of smart contracts
    • 08:25 Fraud reduction and automation in financial systems
    • 09:56 Recent policy developments and institutional adoption of crypto
    • 14:21 Cross-chain interoperability and the role of CCIP
    • 20:44 Institutional data providers bringing forex and metals on-chain
    • 26:52 Circle and other companies launching their own L1 blockchains
    • 34:31 Layer 2 thesis and interoperability with Ethereum
    • 40:00 Future of blockchains and hyper-connected financial systems

    This episode is brought to you by Visa

    A world leader in digital payments, Visa is bridging the gap between traditional financial institutions and innovative blockchain networks, helping players in the payments ecosystem navigate the ever-evolving world of tokenized fiat currencies with confidence and ease. Learn more at visa.com/crypto.

    Tokenized is also presented by Avalanche.

    With Avalanche’s purpose-built Layer 1s, institutions can tailor digital asset strategies to their exact needs—while still tapping into the power of public blockchain innovation, developer communities, and seamless interoperability. Learn more at avax.network


    ***
    We’d also like to remind you that the views or opinions of our contributors today are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the companies they are representing. Nothing we say should be taken as tax, financial, investment or legal advice, do your own research!

    Music by Henry McLean


    Hester Peirce, SEC Commissioner: Tokenized Interviews Aug 14, 2025
    Show notes

    Simon Taylor & Cuy Sheffield have the honour of being joined by Commissioner Peirce to discuss SEC Project Crypto and making America crypto-friendly, self-custody as a fundamental American value and more!

    Timestamps:

    • 01:11 SEC Commissioner Hester Peirce's views on crypto regulation
    • 05:15 Financial privacy and disintermediating technologies
    • 06:00 Crypto asset categorization and tokenized securities
    • 09:56 Self-custody as a fundamental American value
    • 16:18 Stablecoins and digital privacy challenges
    • 20:50 Responsibility of software developers in DeFi
    • 23:28 Traditional financial institutions interacting with DeFi
    • 31:01 Smart contract risks and regulatory standards
    • 36:11 Advice for regulators approaching new technologies
    • 39:19 Future of disclosures and consumer protection

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    This episode is brought to you by Visa

    A world leader in digital payments, Visa is bridging the gap between traditional financial institutions and innovative blockchain networks, helping players in the payments ecosystem navigate the ever-evolving world of tokenized fiat currencies with confidence and ease. Learn more at visa.com/crypto.

    ***

    We’d also like to remind you that the views or opinions of our contributors today are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the companies they are representing. Nothing we say should be taken as tax, financial, investment or legal advice, do your own research!

    Music by Henry McLean


    B2B Payments: Why Ripple Acquired Rail for $200M Ft. Kevin Chan Aug 11, 2025
    Show notes

    On Ep. 43 of Tokenized, Simon Taylor, Head of Content & Strategy @ Sardine, and Cuy Sheffield, Head of Crypto @ Visa, are joined by Kevin Chan, Co-Founder @ Grove Labs to discuss the Grove Labs and Avalanche partnership for on-chain credit, impact of regulatory clarity on financial institutions and more!
    Timestamps:

    • 01:40 Grove Labs and Avalanche partnership for on-chain credit
    • 06:40 SEC Project Crypto and regulatory clarity for tokens
    • 10:11 Impact of regulatory clarity on financial institutions
    • 19:14 Super App licenses and modular on-chain finance
    • 24:56 Remitly using stablecoins for cross-border payments
    • 28:26 Stablecoins as cash equivalents for global finance
    • 35:25 Ripple acquiring Rail Pay for B2B stablecoin payments
    • 38:35 Stablecoin orchestration and multi-chain liquidity solutions
    • 44:17 On-chain FX and solving stablecoin liquidity gaps

    This episode is brought to you by Visa

    A world leader in digital payments, Visa is bridging the gap between traditional financial institutions and innovative blockchain networks, helping players in the payments ecosystem navigate the ever-evolving world of tokenized fiat currencies with confidence and ease. Learn more at visa.com/crypto.

    This podcast is also presented by BVNK.

    BVNK is the leading provider of stablecoin payments infrastructure—helping businesses move money faster, settle globally, and even launch their own stablecoin products. Head to BVNK.com to learn more!
    This podcast is also supported by Canton Network.

    The groundbreaking Layer 1 public chain where traditional finance and crypto are converging. Visit canton.network to learn more.


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    We’d also like to remind you that the views or opinions of our contributors today are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the companies they are representing. Nothing we say should be taken as tax, financial, investment or legal advice, do your own research!

    Music by Henry McLean


    Yield Bearing Stablecoins Surge in a Post-GENIUS World: Stablecoin Stats July 2025 Aug 07, 2025
    Show notes

    On Ep. 3 of Stablecoin Stats, Anthony Yim, Co-Founder @ Artemis and Andrew Van Aken, Data Scientist @ Artemis discuss the impact of the Genius Bill on stablecoin regulation, surge in yield-bearing stablecoins and more!

    Timestamps:

    • 00:00 Introduction
    • 01:01 Impact of the Genius Bill on stablecoin regulation
    • 03:17 Surge in yield-bearing stablecoins post-Genius Bill
    • 05:56 How synthetic stablecoins work and their yield mechanisms
    • 10:11 Role of community banks in stablecoin adoption
    • 13:54 Growth of crypto-backed stablecoins vs. fiat-backed stablecoins
    • 17:35 Tokenized treasuries and the yield cannoli analogy
    • 20:01 PayPal’s global Venmo and stablecoin integration
    • 23:21 Hybrid solutions for stablecoin transactions and user experience
    • 27:35 Stablecoin mentions in Q2 earnings calls and industry trends

    This episode is brought to you by Visa

    A world leader in digital payments, Visa is bridging the gap between traditional financial institutions and innovative blockchain networks, helping players in the payments ecosystem navigate the ever-evolving world of tokenized fiat currencies with confidence and ease. Learn more at visa.com/crypto.

    This podcast is powered by Artemis


    ***
    We’d also like to remind you that the views or opinions of our contributors today are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the companies they are representing. Nothing we say should be taken as tax, financial, investment or legal advice, do your own research!

    Music by Henry McLean


    13,000 Banks Get Stablecoin Access Ft. Tony McLaughlin & Andrew MacKenzie Aug 04, 2025
    Show notes

    On Ep. 42 of Tokenized, Simon Taylor, Head of Content & Strategy @ Sardine, and Cuy Sheffield, Head of Crypto @ Visa, are joined by Tony McLaughlin, Founder @ Ubyx and Andrew MacKenzie, Founder & CEO @ Agant to discuss the role of banks in stablecoin off-ramping, stablecoins as digital cash for corporate treasuries and more!

    Timestamps:

    • 00:00 Introduction
    • 00:40 Visa's expansion into multi-stablecoin and multi-chain support
    • 02:08 FIS partnering with Circle to offer USDC to banks
    • 05:34 The role of banks in stablecoin off-ramping
    • 09:49 Stablecoins as digital cash for corporate treasuries
    • 12:46 PayPal's "Pay with Crypto" feature and merchant adoption
    • 19:15 Stablecoin-native payments at the point of sale
    • 22:40 The value of Visa's network effects in payments
    • 26:10 ECB's concerns about dollar stablecoins in Europe
    • 35:19 Bank of England's stance on stablecoins and digital bonds

    This episode is brought to you by Visa

    A world leader in digital payments, Visa is bridging the gap between traditional financial institutions and innovative blockchain networks, helping players in the payments ecosystem navigate the ever-evolving world of tokenized fiat currencies with confidence and ease. Learn more at visa.com/crypto.

    Tokenized is also presented by Avalanche.

    With Avalanche’s purpose-built Layer 1s, institutions can tailor digital asset strategies to their exact needs—while still tapping into the power of public blockchain innovation, developer communities, and seamless interoperability. Learn more at avax.network


    ***
    We’d also like to remind you that the views or opinions of our contributors today are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the companies they are representing. Nothing we say should be taken as tax, financial, investment or legal advice, do your own research!

    Music by Henry McLean


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