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    Thinking Outside The Soil

    Thinking Outside The Soil is the next evolution of a podcast with more than 160 episodes behind it. It began as a broader exploration of hydroponics and agriculture.

    Now, the show narrows into a focused format on the real-world operators using hydroponic fodder for horses and chickens. Expect straight talk on outcomes, constraints, economics, and implementation.

    New episodes drop every Tuesday for horses and every Friday for chickens.

    thinkingoutsidethesoil.substack.com

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    Season 7: Ep. 3 - A Different Way to Grow Out Meat Birds with Jessica Jackson Mar 20, 2026
    Show notes

    Something interesting is happening in how people raise meat birds right now, and most of it is barely talked about.

    Many of the conversations still center on inputs. What feed to buy, how to reduce cost, what’s “better” or “cleaner.” But underneath that, there’s a different question we keep asking.

    What if we stop treating feed as a fixed cost and start treating it as the foundation for better health?

    Now, it’s not every day you’re scrolling through TikTok nonsense, and something actually makes you go, “whoa…”

    I was doing what a lot of folks do. Half paying attention, flipping through videos, not expecting to find anything useful. And then I came across a clip of someone feeding chicks that made me pause and look again.

    My first instinct was to map it onto what I already know. Assume I understood what was happening. But I’ve learned that’s usually where you get it wrong. So instead of projecting, I asked a question.

    And that’s where things started to open up.

    It was very clear that this wasn’t just another backyard chicken keeper doing the same thing as everyone else…parroting others and rebranding it as if they came up with the idea.

    If you’ve been around poultry long enough, you know the pattern. Chicken keepers are dependent on buying something that we have little control over, at a price we basically have to accept.

    And most setups reflect that. You can see it in the inputs and the way people talk about feed.

    When I went to look at the video owner’s profile, that’s what I expected to see. But that’s not what I saw. Instead, what kept showing up was a system that didn’t look like it was built around purchased feed at all. It looked like something else was doing the heavy lifting.

    A lot of chicken keepers have experimented with sprouting at some point. Most try it briefly and move on because it feels inconsistent or like more work than it’s worth. It gets treated as a supplement, something extra you might do if you have the time.

    That’s not what I saw in the first video or in the others I went through.

    This was integrated into the core feeding strategy. And more importantly, it was producing outcomes that most people claim can only be done in large houses using the calculations set by big producers.

    About Jessica Jackson

    On TikTok, she goes by @kjjacksonnaturals and she raises chickens in West Texas. She runs her setup mostly on her own, bringing in help when it’s time to process birds for the Abilene farmers market. She didn’t start with broilers. Like many people, she started with laying hens and began experimenting with sprouting grains in 2013. Over the past four years, she’s applied that same approach to broilers and turkeys, building a system around it rather than treating it as a supplement.

    And when you hear what’s coming from her farm, it makes sense.

    Why This Matters for Broiler Producers

    If you’re trying to grow out meat birds right now, you’re probably feeling some version of the same pressure most producers are.

    Feed costs fluctuate, your margins get thinner and thinner, and every decision starts to feel reactive.

    What Jessica is doing points to a different approach.

    Instead of treating feed as a fixed expense to be managed, it becomes part of the production system itself. Something you can influence, rather than something you’re always responding to.

    That doesn’t remove the work needed to raise healthy animals. But it does change the equation and shifts where the work happens.

    When you start producing even some of your feed, you gain control over variables that once seemed fixed, which makes planning easier.

    Common Misconception About Sprouting

    One reason most people don’t take sprouting seriously is that they don’t stick with it long enough to see what it actually does.

    A mason jar here. A bucket there. Something added in as a treat rather than built into a system.

    When it’s approached that way, it’s impossible to see clear results. It’s like eating a salad once in a blue moon and thinking your health will magically get better.

    If you’re looking for a way to grow out meat birds more consistently, or you’re trying to source locally raised chicken that isn’t dependent on the same feed model as everyone else, this is worth paying attention to.

    Listen in and decide for yourself what happens when a small poultry producer trades conventional wisdom for applied biology.

    Guest Links:

    TikTok · https://www.tiktok.com/@kjjacksonnaturals

    Facebook · https://www.facebook.com/people/KJ-Jackson-Naturals/100090537535989

    Follow & Learn:

    Substack · https://thinkingoutsidethesoil.substack.com

    Blooming Health Farms · https://www.bloominghealthfarms.com

    Paperback · https://amzn.to/4ppht4q

    Audiobook · https://amzn.to/3zr4x5S

    Chicken Crack Blend

    Apple Podcasts · https://is.gd/UG2E5X

    Spotify · https://is.gd/2xTdcM

    Instagram · https://www.instagram.com/seany_alfalfaseed

    TikTok · https://www.tiktok.com/@bloominghealthfarms

    Programs:Rent The Chicken · https://is.gd/n1fVy2

    Hatch The Chicken · https://is.gd/nFfiDr


    This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thinkingoutsidethesoil.substack.com

    Season 7: Ep. 2 - How to Use Fodder for Healthier Horses: Insights from Paul Johnson Mar 17, 2026
    Show notes

    There’s a question sitting underneath a lot of feed conversations right now…

    Is there a better way to feed horses when hay is expensive, water is hard to come by, and consistent feeding matters?

    In the world of horse care, finding a balance between quality feed and cost is a challenge many owners face. If you’re looking for a solution to keep your horses healthy without breaking the bank, then this is for you. In this episode of Thinking Outside The Soil, I sat down with Paul Johnson of Cripple Gray Ranch in Texas, a longtime horseman and polocrosse trainer who has been feeding fodder to performance horses since 2011.

    About Paul Johnson

    Paul Johnson is the owner and operator of Cripple Gray Ranch in McCade, Texas. With years of experience in horse riding and care, Paul has explored various feeding methods to ensure the health and performance of his horses. His journey into fodder began out of necessity, and his insights offer valuable lessons for horse owners everywhere.

    Why Traditional Horse Feed Can Be Costly and Ineffective

    Many horse owners are familiar with the increasing costs of hay and feed. In 2011, Paul faced a severe drought in Texas, making hay scarce and expensive. The quality was often poor, leaving him with limited options to keep his horses nourished. Traditional feeding methods can lead to high costs without guaranteeing the best nutrition for performance horses.

    The Fodder Solution: Transforming Horse Feeding

    In search of alternatives, Paul stumbled upon the concept of fodder feeding. Fodder, which consists of sprouted grains, offers several advantages:

    * Cost-Effective: Initially spending about $3 per horse per day for traditional feed, Paul discovered that he could reduce this cost to less than $0.50 with fodder.

    * Nutritional Value: Horses can digest over 70% of fodder, compared to only about 30% of commercial feed, making it a more efficient option for nourishment.

    * Health Benefits: Fodder is alkaline, helping to prevent issues like ulcers that are common with acidic commercial feeds. Paul noted that his horses showed improved health and performance after switching to fodder.

    Common Misconceptions About Fodder

    Despite its benefits, there are misconceptions about the nutritional value of fodder. Many equine nutritionists were unaware of how to evaluate fodder effectively at the time Paul began his journey. Most assessments required drying and grinding the plants, which does not accurately reflect the benefits of feeding live fodder.

    Key Takeaways

    * Cost Savings: Switching to fodder can significantly reduce feeding costs while improving the nutritional intake of horses.

    * Health Improvements: Fodder can enhance the overall health of horses, reducing common issues associated with traditional feeding practices.

    * DIY Approach: Implementing a fodder system may require some initial setup and daily maintenance, so consider a system built for you that saves time.

    Paul Johnson’s experience highlights the potential of fodder feeding for horse owners seeking a healthier, more cost-effective solution. By transitioning to fodder, you can not only save money but also ensure your horses receive the best nutrition possible.

    Check out the links below to learn more about how hydroponic fodder helps farmers save water, improve livestock quality, and become better stewards.

    Take care, and have a lovely day!

    —

    Paul’s YouTube Channel:https://www.youtube.com/@pjpxmcd2/videos

    Eleusis Feed:https://eleusisfeed.com

    Follow & Learn:

    Blooming Health Farms - https://www.bloominghealthfarms.com

    Paperback - https://amzn.to/4ppht4q

    Audiobook - https://amzn.to/3zr4x5S

    Chicken Crack Blend - https://seedandfeed.farm/chicken-crack-9288

    Apple Podcasts - https://is.gd/UG2E5X

    Spotify - https://is.gd/2xTdcM

    Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/seany_alfalfaseed

    TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bloominghealthfarms

    Programs:

    Rent The Chicken - https://is.gd/n1fVy2

    Hatch The Chicken - https://is.gd/nFfiDr


    This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thinkingoutsidethesoil.substack.com

    Season 7: Ep. 1 - Relaunching a Feed Revolution Mar 13, 2026
    Show notes

    This episode is a relaunch of Thinking Outside The Soil.

    After 165 episodes exploring hydroponics and agriculture more broadly, the show is narrowing into a more disciplined format focused on hydroponic fodder, feeding systems, and the real-world operators using them for horses and chickens.

    From here forward, Tuesday episodes are for horses. Friday episodes are for chickens.


    This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thinkingoutsidethesoil.substack.com

    Season 6: Ep. 16 - The Art of Sprouting Jul 02, 2024
    Show notes

    Good Morning and Hello from Blooming Health Farms!

    Welcome to another episode of Thinking Outside The Soil, with your host Sean E. Alfalfaseed. Where I get to talk story and touch on topics about hydroponics and the farmers who grow the crops and creatures we need to eat.

    |

    Check out the links below to learn more about our farm and how hydroponic fodder helps farmers save water, improve livestock quality, and become better stewards.

    Follow the show and get the book so you don't miss out on the next agricultural revolution!

    Thank you for being with me on another episode of TOTS. Take care, and have a lovely day!

    Links:

    Blooming Health Farms:⁠https://www.bloominghealthfarms.com

    The Book:⁠thinkingoutsidethesoil.com⁠


    This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thinkingoutsidethesoil.substack.com

    Season 6: Ep. 15 - Thanks to Ranchers Jun 25, 2024
    Show notes

    Good Morning and Hello from Blooming Health Farms!Welcome to another episode of Thinking Outside The Soil, with your host Sean E. Alfalfaseed. Where I get to talk story and touch on topics about hydroponics and the farmers who grow the crops and creatures we need to eat. |Check out the links below to learn more about our farm and how hydroponic fodder helps farmers save water, improve livestock quality, and become better stewards.Follow the show and get the book so you don't miss out on the next agricultural revolution!Thank you for being with me on another episode of TOTS. Take care, and have a lovely day!Links:Blooming Health Farms:⁠https://www.bloominghealthfarms.comThe Book:⁠thinkingoutsidethesoil.com⁠
    This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thinkingoutsidethesoil.substack.com


    Season 6: Ep. 14 - Broilers, pt. 3 Jun 18, 2024
    Show notes

    Good Morning and Hello from Blooming Health Farms!

    Welcome to another episode of Thinking Outside The Soil, with your host Sean E. Alfalfaseed. Where I get to talk story and touch on topics about hydroponics and the farmers who grow the crops and creatures we need to eat.

    |

    Check out the links below to learn more about our farm and how hydroponic fodder helps farmers save water, improve livestock quality, and become better stewards.

    Follow the show and get the book so you don't miss out on the next agricultural revolution!

    Thank you for being with me on another episode of TOTS. Take care, and have a lovely day!

    Links:

    The Book:

    ⁠thinkingoutsidethesoil.com

    Broilers, pt. 1

    https://spotifyanchor-web.app.link/e/nkGizSPWwKb

    Broilers, pt. 2

    https://spotifyanchor-web.app.link/e/fpCDZaKWwKb


    This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thinkingoutsidethesoil.substack.com

    Season 6: Ep. 13 - FarmBox Foods Jun 14, 2024
    Show notes

    Good Morning and Happy Aloha Friday from Blooming Health Farms!Welcome to another episode of Thinking Outside The Soil, with your host Sean E. Alfalfaseed. Where I get to talk story and touch on topics about hydroponics and the farmers who grow the crops and creatures we need to eat. |Check out the links below to learn more about our farm and how hydroponic fodder helps farmers save water, improve livestock quality, and become better stewards.Follow the show and get the book so you don't miss out on the next agricultural revolution!Links:Blooming Health Farms:⁠https://www.bloominghealthfarms.comThe Book:⁠thinkingoutsidethesoil.com⁠ FarmBox Foods: https://www.farmboxfoods.com
    This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thinkingoutsidethesoil.substack.com


    Season 6: Ep. 12 - Aquaponics in the Coop Keynote Presentation Jun 11, 2024
    Show notes

    Got chickens? Want to make your farm work smarter, not harder? Sean, an aquaponics expert and author of "Thinking Outside The Soil," invites you to a revolutionary session that might change your thoughts about egg farming. "Aquaponics in the Coop: Cleaner Water, Healthier Feed, Better Eggs" isn't your usual farming talk. Sean will share some secrets about making the most of what you've got. He's using something as simple as water and seeds in ways you wouldn't believe, getting amazing environmental and chicken health results. What's his secret to better feed and top-notch eggs? How does he turn waste into a winning formula for egg farmers? These are just some of the questions Sean will dive into, sharing insights from his aquaponic chickening journey. This session is a must for anyone looking to shake things up in their poultry game. Whether you're a farming expert or an aquaponics novice, this presentation promises practical insights and inspiring revelations. It's more than just tips and tricks; it's about a fresh perspective on farming. Join in and discover the missing pieces to make your farm thrive.


    Watch here on YouTube: https://youtu.be/mrsflHnixwg?si=4nop7KxpzVwDTdON



    This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thinkingoutsidethesoil.substack.com

    Season 6: Ep. 11 - Shell Eggs: Ensuring Food Safety Jun 04, 2024
    Show notes

    Good Morning and Hello from Blooming Health Farms!

    Welcome to another episode of Thinking Outside The Soil, with your host Sean E. Alfalfaseed. Today's episode is about food safety in eggs.

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    Check out the links below to learn more about our farm and how hydroponic fodder helps farmers save water, improve livestock quality, and become better stewards.

    Follow the show and get the book so you don't miss out on the next agricultural revolution!

    Thank you for being with me on another episode of TOTS. Take care, and have a lovely day!

    Links:

    Blooming Health Farms:⁠https://www.bloominghealthfarms.com

    The Book:⁠thinkingoutsidethesoil.com⁠


    This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thinkingoutsidethesoil.substack.com

    Season 6: Ep. 10 - Putting The Bloom in Blooming Health May 28, 2024
    Show notes

    Good Morning and Hello from Blooming Health Farms!

    Welcome to another episode of Thinking Outside The Soil, with your host Sean E. Alfalfaseed. Where I get to talk story and touch on topics about hydroponics and the farmers who grow the crops and creatures we need to eat.

    |

    Check out the links below to learn more about our farm and how hydroponic fodder helps farmers save water, improve livestock quality, and become better stewards.

    Follow the show and get the book so you don't miss out on the next agricultural revolution!

    Thank you for being with me on another episode of TOTS. Take care, and have a lovely day!

    Links:

    Blooming Health Farms:⁠https://www.bloominghealthfarms.com

    The Book: ⁠thinkingoutsidethesoil.com⁠


    This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thinkingoutsidethesoil.substack.com

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