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    Alternative Health

    The Wellness Mama Podcast

    The Wellness Mama Podcast is a weekly series covering the topics of holistic health, real food, stress, sleep, fitness, toxins, natural living, DIY, parenting, motherhood, and other health tips to give you actionable solutions to improve your family’s life! Brought to you by Katie Wells of WellnessMama.com

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    Latest Episodes:
    Morley Robbins on Thyroid Health, Retinol, Magnesium, and the Real Story of Aging Jan 09, 2023
    Show notes

    Episode Highlights With Morley Robbins

    • What might be going on if you are told you have low iron or low ferritin
    • Why what’s going on in the blood isn’t always indicative of whats going on in the tissue and what to know when looking at blood tests
    • The three things to understand when measuring iron: hemoglobin (70% of body’s iron), ferritin (storage protein inside cells- 10% of body’s iron), serum iron (less than a tenth of a percent which actually means copper isn’t doing its job)
    • What hepcidin is (peptide)
    • Katherine Philpott MD PhD paper on how ferritin is storing excess iron in the body
    • Why the amount of iron you need is lower than you think..
    • The important part of this equation that is almost never tested by doctors and that can be shut down by Vitamin D
    • Why low ferritin is not an indication of iron deficiency and actually shows low copper and affects hepcidin
    • Dietary iron vs. recycling iron and why copper is important
    • What to know about Vitamin D and its relationship to retinol
    • The thyroid connection and why it is just a symptom of what’s going on in the body
    • Why low thyroid function can just be a symptom of low retinol
    • The thyroid doesn't run the body - it responds to the body
    • What you don’t know about aging that is aging you much more rapidly
    • Why copper, magnesium, and retinol are the big players in the real story of aging
    • How hair testing shows us some things that blood tests don’t
    • 12 minerals and 8 metals that show up in hair tests (electrolytes, oxidation patterns, metals, etc)
    • Things we can take that mess up the way copper is used in the body (birth control, antibiotics, artificial vitamin C)

    Resources We Mention

    • 596: Morley Robbins on Magnesium, Stress, Mineral Balance and the Root Cause Protocol
    • RCP123.org or therootcauseprotocol.com
    • Queen of Thrones - Castor Oil Packs
    • Quercetin
    • Loren Pickart

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    Diana Rodgers on Meat Myths and Why Animal Products are Vital for Humans to Thrive Jan 05, 2023
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    Episode Highlights With Diana Rodgers

    • How she got into nutrition through her own undiagnosed celiac
    • Why meat is the most vilified food and some reasons this is off base
    • The most common myths and misconceptions on meat: nutrition, environment and ethics
    • Why personal food decisions should stay personal and not be imposed on others
    • What the research says about meat being critical for childhood development
    • The elephant in the room: 60% of the US diet is ultra processed foods
    • Why it's possible to meet protein needs and still be deficient in amino acids
    • Protein consumption is especially important for women and children and specifically from animal products
    • What sarcopenia is and why it is such a big problem
    • Ways to help avoid sarocpenia
    • For every pound of plant based protein, there are four pounds of waste
    • The ways that cows are actually beneficial and important for the environment
    • Almonds vs cows for water consumption and why almonds waste much more water than cows

    Resources We Mention

    • 374: Sacred Cow: The Case for (Better) Meat (& Methane Explained) With Diana Rodgers
    • Sacred Cow: The Case for (Better) Meat: Why Well-Raised Meat Is Good for You and Good for the Planet by Diana Rodgers and Robb Wolf
    • Sacred Cow DVD
    • Paleovalley beef sticks
    • The Paleo Solution: The Original Human Diet by Robb Wolf
    • Ishmael by Daniel Quinn
    • Cronometer.com

    Thanks to Our Sponsors:

    Joovv - Red light therapy can be an important part of any health routine and I use mine daily to support cellular function and for my skin and thyroid. Use code wellnessmama for a discount.

    LMNT - My go-to electrolyte mix that I use during workouts,while fasting and in the sauna. It's a clean source of all of your electrolyte needs.


    Dr. Gabrielle Lyon on Muscle-Cyntric Medicine, Eat Your Protein and How to Train Better Jan 02, 2023
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    Episode Highlights With Dr. Lyon

    • What muscle-centric medicine is and how she developed this method
    • Why muscle is so important, especially for women
    • The connection between body composition and how we age
    • Her research on how body composition affects the brain and ability to do cognitive tasks
    • Why muscle is the organ of longevity
    • How muscle helps with disease prevention
    • Muscle is an endocrine organ and why exercise should be about building muscle not losing fat
    • The longevity connection to lean muscle mass
    • Why it's very difficult for a woman to get “bulky” or too muscular quickly
    • What reverse dieting is and how it can help us get stronger and leaner
    • Dietary protein as it relates to muscle health
    • Why we absolutely need dietary protein and what the bare minimum is vs. optimal for health and longevity
    • How much protein should we actually eat?
    • Her recommendation: 1g protein per pound ideal body weight
    • The minimum amount of protein required to stimulate protein synthesis
    • Her protocols for protein spacing and amounts
    • Do women and men need to train differently?
    • Lifestyle, diet, and supplementation factors that can help increase strength gain
    • How food and light regular our circadian clocks and our training ability
    • Recommended supplements: creatine, omega 3, urolithin A
    • Her advice: always be empowered by your choices and do the thing you are avoiding

    Resources We Mention

    • 371: How Eating More Protein Will Transform Your Metabolism With Dr. Gabrielle Lyon
    • Creatine Monohydrate
    • Urolithin A by Mitopure
    • Relentless: From Good to Great to Unstoppable by Tim S. Grover
    • The Attributes: 25 Hidden Drivers of Optimal Performance by Rich Diviney
    • The Mountain Is You: Transforming Self-Sabotage into Self-Mastery by Brianna Wiest
    • Her book club: Freedom Reads

    Thanks to Our Sponsors:

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    Hiya Health - A clean line of children's vitamins that provides growing kids with all the essential nutrients that might be missing from their diet.


    Vulnerable Yearly Recap, Looking Ahead to Next Year and Answering Questions Dec 29, 2022
    Show notes

    Episode Highlights With Katie

    • The beautiful lessons I've learned this year and how it was a year of rest and relationships
    • My focus for this past year: to be with my kids and focus on them, inner work and diving into house projects that required new skills (and lots of power tools!)
    • Why I now feel ready to step into new projects and new energy
    • An update on my Health and how it is better than it has ever been
    • What health goals I've been focusing on: healthy blood sugar numbers , eating to nourish my body, Hashimoto's remains in remission
    • The biggest factors impacting my health: dealing with stress, sleep first, recovery and nourishing body and then eventually adding in exercise
    • 2022 was the year of strength and 2023 will be a year of peace and joy
    • Hit my yearly reading benchmark and read 50 books
    • How art, meditation and journaling impacted me
    • Inner work that I did: faced some of my perfectionist, people pleasing tendencies, learned more about boundaries and showing up with kindness without compromising my own needs
    • Why I don't focus on New Years resolutions, but on challenges and experiments instead
    • How mindset plays such a big role in health, habits and more
    • Q&A from all the questions you submitted

    Resources Mentioned

    • Levels
    • LMNT
    • Sleep.me (formerly ChiliSleep)
    • BiOptimizers Magnesium
    • Jigsaw Health Magnesium
    • Kion aminos and creatine
    • Branch Basics
    • Protein - ICONIC and Paleovalley
    • Word of the year generator
    • Tim Ferriss End of the Year Review

    Thanks to Our Sponsors:

    Wellnesse - My line of personal care products such as toothpaste, deodorant, shampoo and much more!

    Timeline Nutrition - Mitopure from Timeline Nutrition offers an easy way to get your daily 500mg dose of Urolithin A, which helps with energy and endurance and so much more! Use code wellnessma for a discount.


    Dr. Matthew Dawson on Wild Health and Lessons From Precision Health Dec 26, 2022
    Show notes

    Episode Highlights With Matt

    • What wild health is and where this concept came from
    • How a return to nature is the root of good health
    • What separates precision medicine from traditional medicine
    • Why genetics are important but they are only about 20% of the whole picture
    • The importance of light, sleep, and stress for health
    • Factors we can optimize for our kids for lifelong health
    • Are diseases actually preventable
    • What their data says on reversing disease through lifestyle intervention
    • His core pillars of optimal health and how to optimize each one
    • What studies say about movement and how much we need
    • Why he is also on team sardines as a superfood
    • The reason to look at the calories vs nutrients equation
    • His personalized non-negotiables for health
    • Ways to improve sleep quality
    • Science backed reasons to focus more on relationships and connection for better health

    Resources We Mention

    • Wild Health
    • Oura Ring
    • ChiliSleep
    • Levels - Continuous Glucose Monitor
    • Last Child in the Woods: Saving Our Children From Nature-Deficit Disorder by Richard Louv
    • The Bible (NIV)
    • Awareness: Conversations with the Masters by Anthony de Mello
    • The 15 Commitments of Conscious Leadership: A New Paradigm for Sustainable Success by Jim Dethmer

    Thanks to Our Sponsors:

    Wellnesse - My line of personal care products such as toothpaste, deodorant, shampoo and much more!

    Timeline Nutrition - Mitopure from Timeline Nutrition offers an easy way to get your daily 500mg dose of Urolithin A, which helps with energy and endurance and so much more! Use code wellnessma for a discount.


    Dr. Jack Kruse on Junk Light, 5G, Optimizing Sunlight and Longevity Dec 22, 2022
    Show notes

    Episode Highlights With Dr. Kruse

    • What junk light is and why it can be so harmful
    • Why sunlight is so important and not dangerous... and why it is so important for kids
    • The problems with screens that you probably didn’t know of
    • Understanding light functionally
    • Why light is a medicine
    • Six meta analysis show that lack of sunlight is more dangerous to your health than smoking
    • The deeper problems with blue light beyond just sleep disturbances
    • How blue light cases break down in the retina and brain changes and destroys dopamine
    • Why he recommends avoiding melatonin supplementation in kids
    • Where melatonin is actually made (in the mitochondria) and how to optimize it
    • The reasons he recommends avoiding sunscreen and increasing sunlight exposure, especially in kids
    • Low Vitamin D levels correlate highly with melanoma and the sun helps increase Vitamin D levels… so why lack of sunlight is more correlated to melanoma than sun exposure and how blue light comes into play
    • Why sunglasses decrease melanin production in the skin and why he says to avoid them because you’ll be more sensitive to the sun
    • Ways to optimize your light exposure
    • Light exposure tips: open windows inside so it isn’t filtered through glass
    • More reasons to get morning sunlight
    • A reason kids don't need as much sunlight as their grandparents do
    • How to do grounding correctly
    • His water recommendations for optimizing this for our kids
    • How screens are dehydrating, especially to kids
    • The food and light connection and what to know about water
    • His top tips for longevity
    • Mitochondrial DNA is only inherited through the mom
    • What transgenerational epigenetics is and why we need to understand it as parents
    • The real deal on Vitamin D (a neurosteroid he says not to supplement) and Omega-3

    Resources We Mention

    • Dr. Jack Kruse - website
    • Dr. Jack Kruse - Membership and Patreon
    • Spectroscope
    • A week’s worth of camping synchs internal clock to sunrise and sunset, CU-Boulder study finds
    • Going Somewhere: Truth about a Life in Science by Andrew A. Marino
    • Health and Light: The extraordinary Study that Shows How light Affects Your Health and emotional well being by John N. Ott
    • Power, Sex, Suicide: Mitochondria and the meaning of life<

    Dr. Steven Lin on the Collapsing Jaw of Our Next Generation and How We Can Fix It Dec 19, 2022
    Show notes

    Episode Highlights With Dr. Lin

    • A big misconception for parents when it comes to a child’s jaw growth
    • How we can help our kids grow a jaw that fits their adult teeth
    • The factors that come into play with tooth decay and collapse of the jaw that leads to crooked teeth
    • Dr. Weston A. Price’s work on nutrition and dental health
    • Factors that make a difference in jaw structure in utero
    • What to look for in your kids teeth and jaw development at different ages
    • A mistake many parents make in introducing foods
    • How cleaning the nose might be more important than cleaning the teeth early on
    • Problems with mouth breathing in kids and adults and what to do about it
    • What to do if you or your child can’t tolerate nasal breathing
    • How to reprogram your breathing and improve tongue posture for better sleep
    • Sleep connections between jaw development and nutrition
    • Why over consumption of sugar and lack of Vitamin D are such a big deal in kids
    • Foods to avoid for jaw health and oral health: sugars, vegetable/seed oils, processed grains, etc

    Resources We Mention

    • 127: Dr. Steven Lin on How to Reverse Dental Problems Through Diet
    • The Dental Diet: The Surprising Link between Your Teeth, Real Food, and Life-Changing Natural Health by Dr. Steven Lin
    • Dr. Steven Lin - Website
    • Nutrition and Physical Degeneration by Weston A. Price, DDS
    • Thinking Fast and Slow by Daniel Kahneman

    Thanks to Our Sponsors:

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    Marie Forleo on Everything Is Figureoutable, Improving Your Mindset and Becoming a Time Genius Dec 15, 2022
    Show notes

    Episode Highlights With Marie

    • Why she was an original member of the smurf fan club
    • Her own entrepreneurial journey
    • Why she doesn’t feel that our current educational model prepares us for how to best contribute to the world in a meaningful way
    • How to learn to listen to the small voice inside
    • Getting through imposter syndrome and learning to listen to our intuition even if we are scared
    • Failure = a faithful attempt in learning and how to reframe failure and learn from it
    • Clarity comes from engagement, not thought
    • Her time management tips from time genius
    • The most powerful words in the universe

    Resources We Mention

    • Time Genius
    • B-School
    • Everything Is Figureoutable by Marie Forleo
    • The War of Art: Break Through the Blocks and Win Your Inner Creative Battles by Steven Pressfield

    Thanks to Our Sponsors

    Sleep.me - They offer amazing products to help with temperature-controlled sleep. Save 25% with the code wellnessmama.

    Four Sigmatic - My go-to for mushroom coffee and drinks. Use code wellnessmama for a discount.


    Kelly LeVeque on Blood Sugar Balance, the Fab Four, Protein and Demystifying Health Dec 12, 2022
    Show notes

    Episode Highlights With Kelly

    • Why over 100 million people in the US have diabetes or pre-diabetes, and why this is largely preventable
    • The reason we see a rise in these issues, even in children
    • Understanding macronutrients at a higher level to make health easier
    • Why amino acids and essential fatty acids are important, but we don’t have a dietary need for carbohydrates
    • How the body can take protein and create what it needs through gluconeogenesis even if we don't eat carbs
    • Why protein has a zero to minimal effect on blood sugar and why protein is the most satisfying macronutrient
    • The reason not eating enough protein leads to overeating and why this is an important survival response
    • Metabolic syndrome, elevated blood sugar, diabetes, and inflammatory markers link
    • Why carbohydrates in their whole food form are wrapped in fiber and interact with the body differently
    • The reason cellular carbohydrates (like apples) are much different in the body than acellular ones (apple juice)
    • How pregnancy and breastfeeding increase protein and nutrient demands in a big way
    • Why carbs aren't the enemy
    • The reasoning that if low carb is good, no carb is not better and when glucose spikes are good
    • A reason to avoid “naked carbohydrates” or carbs on their own
    • How to use time-restricted eating to your advantage
    • Tips for fasting optimally as a woman and getting enough protein
    • How eating protein in the morning and stop eating by 6pm can make a huge difference

    Resources We Mention

    • Body Love: Live in Balance, Weigh What You Want, and Free Yourself from Food Drama Forever by Kelly LeVeque
    • Body Love Every Day: Choose Your Life-Changing 21-Day Path to Food Freedom by Kelly LeVeque
    • Be Well by Kelly - website
    • Oura Ring
    • Levels Glucose Monitor
    • Protein powder
    • Time-restricted eating study
    • Deep Work: Rules for Focused Success in a Distracted World by Cal Newport

    Anya’s Reviews on the Benefits of Being Barefoot and Why to Choose Barefoot Shoes Dec 08, 2022
    Show notes

    Episode Highlights With Anya

    • How she studied four languages including Russian and Chinese!
    • Her personal story with foot health and foot problems that led her to research minimal footwear
    • How pregnancy made her foot problems worse and how this led her to research alternatives to overly supportive shoes
    • When her foot pain got super severe and started causing other joint pain as well
    • The book that opened her eyes to another way to heal her feet
    • What foot shaped footwear and barefoot shoes are and why they are important
    • How to rehab feet and transition to better footwear
    • The benefits of barefoot time when possible
    • What to look for in barefoot shoes and all the different types available
    • How sitting too much can also create foot issues even if kids aren’t wearing restrictive footwear
    • The main things to look for in foot friendly footwear: foot shaped (asymmetric), flat, zero drop, bendable
    • Exercises and movements for strengthening and mobilizing feet
    • What toe yoga is and how to do it
    • Her take on toe spreaders and when they can be beneficial
    • Tips for making the transition easier
    • Fascia release tools and how they can be helpful
    • Her parting advice: You don’t have to be a foot nerd and be only barefoot to benefit from the ideas of this and how to 80/20 it

    Resources We Mention

    • Anya's Reviews - website
    • Anya's Instagram
    • Whole Body Barefoot: Transitioning Well to Minimal Footwear by Katy Bowman
    • CARS video from Hunter Fitness
    • Vivo Barefoot
    • Xero Shoes
    • Earth Runners
    • The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der Kolk M.D.
    • Acupressure Rock Mat

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