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**The Standup with ThePrimeagen**

ThePrimeagen and Teej host The Standup – a podcast where we talk about software, life, memes and more. It’s fun, it can be informative and sometimes Trash is also here. Joined by regular guests like Casey Muratori, Carson Gross and more!

Latest Episodes:

How **WE** Use AI Jul 02, 2025

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📌 Chapters:

00:00:00 - Intro & Chess Talk
00:01:55 - Who uses AI
00:02:49 - ssh terminal.shop ad
00:03:22 - Dax developing opencode
00:11:00 - ssh terminal.shop TOS
00:13:32 - Casey's take on AI
00:31:22 - Teej's take on AI
00:35:55 - Prime's take on AI
00:40:40 - Zero to One development being prioritized
00:48:00 - Begging Dax to teach us to build an agent

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**Topics Covered:**

- AI agents in programming workflows
- Using LLMs for 0-to-1 product development
- Prototyping with AI tools
- Maintaining vs generating code
- When AI fails in complex codebases
- Developer productivity tools
- Code quality and long-term maintainability
- API stability and tech stack evolution
- Vibe coding vs structured design
- Frontend frustration: CSS, layout, and abstractions
- Real-world use cases for AI-assisted coding
- Opinions on OpenCode and agent tooling
- The future of software automation

Keyboard Show & Tell Jun 25, 2025

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🔗 Sponsored by Code Rabbit
https://coderabbit.link/primeagen-vscode

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🎹 Finding the Right Keyboard

Welcome to The Standup – where developers, creators, and founders debate the big questions. In this episode, we talk about all things Keyboards.

We dive deep into:

- Keyboard Obsession Origins
- Mechanical Keyboards 101: Switch types, thock vs. clicky, creamy vs. crispy
- Keychron, GMMK Pro, Dactyl Manuform & Voyager Reviews
- Box Switches & Keycap Profiles (Cherry, DSA, OEM)
- Silent Switches vs. Clicky Switches Debate
- Typing Ergonomics & Wrist Pain Fixes
- Split Keyboards, Thumb Clusters, and Concavity Explained
- Custom Keyboards with RGB & Anime Keycaps
- Keyboard Lubing
- ZMK vs. QMK Keyboard Programming
- Typing Competitions & Internet Speed Typing Lore
- Casey’s Journey: From Amiga to Custom Builds
- ASMR & Key Sounds Showcase
- Trash’s Keyboard Garage Sale Finds
- Ergonomic vs. Aesthetic Keyboards
- How Much is Too Much for a Keyboard?

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📌 Chapters:
0:00 - intro + banter
2:13 - the only coffee to drink
3:50 - who are the keyboard fiends
5:22 - sponsor: CodeRabbit
6:03 - Casey learns about Keyboards
2:05 - is college still worth it in 2025?
5:48 - the cost of college in the U.S. vs Europe
10:24 - What is Thock?
15:45 - What are Box Switches?
17:08 - Trashes Keyboard
24:00 - Primes insane keyboard
25:45 - Caseys keyboard
27:00 - Programming your Keyboard
29:25 - Touch Typing and the Home-Row
33:30 Teej's keyboard
36:38 - Trash's AOL Dragonball Z Battles
37:55 - More Prime Keyboards
42:18 - How much is too much money on a Keyboard
45:00 - Lube talk
47:05 - Mice suck
50:05 - Casey's Keycaps
53:56 - Pressure
58:55 - Prime is NOT in charge of the Airbnb
1:00:40 - Outro and Inspiration

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The Real Problems with Git Jun 25, 2025

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🔗 Sponsored by Code Rabbit
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00:00:00 - Intro
00:00:57 - The New Standup Dress Code
00:03:38 - What we're gonna talk about
00:05:05 - Code Rabbit Ad!
00:05:50 - Prime and Begin argue about Botched Rebases
00:09:21 - What Source Control *Should* Be
00:20:01 - Casey and Begin agree on the future Source Control
00:26:00 - Prime makes Git Branching even more Complicated by comparing it to Quantum Mechanics
00:27:56 - The Idiot's Perspective
00:34:00 - When Teej deals with Merges
00:36:48 - Conway's Law informs Git process
00:42:05 - Google Docs Analogy
00:45:30 - How Real Developers Ship Code
00:47:55 - What Should Version Control be?
00:50:54 - Would Casey let a Junior Eng roll their own VCS
00:59:25 - Why Prime Rebases and we all Fight
01:16:50 - Begin's Law
01:17:22 - Git Hooks
01:23:48 - Git Koans

Microsoft Admits Defeat in AI? Jun 13, 2025

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💸 $1M+ hackathon is live — https://hackathon.dev

Microsoft just open-sourced Copilot Chat for VS Code — but is it a W or a panic move? 👀

Prime, Teej, Casey & Trash break it all down:
⚔️ Cursor & Windsurf eating VS Code’s lunch
🧠 Is MSFT losing the AI dev wars?
🌐 Open source or just open copium?
💀 Also: mustaches, rats, and corporate trauma

📌 Chapters:
0:00:00 intro
0:03:25 Trash humiliated by a German Man
0:05:23 Prime admits he knows nothing about TMNT
0:06:00 Sponsor: Bolt
0:06:48 VSCODE Copilot going Open Source 4 Real
0:16:11 Inept vs Incapable (semantics)
0:25:37 AI Models vs AI Integration
0:41:20 Economics and Cheese Puffs
0:57:00 Klarna Klarna Klarna!
1:08:00 use code "Casey" at check w/ Klarna
1:09:42 Vote Teej!

Is College Worth It? (ft. DHH) Jun 06, 2025

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🔗 Sponsored by Code Rabbit
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🎓 Is College Still Worth It in 2025?

Welcome to The Standup – where developers, creators, and founders debate the big questions. In this episode, we sit down with David Heinemeier Hansson (DHH), the creator of Ruby on Rails and Basecamp co-founder.

👉 Is College Worth It in 2025?

We dive deep into:

⏳ The ROI of college in a post-AI world
🇺🇸 Why American higher ed is broken (from a Danish POV)
📉 Are CS degrees still worth $250K?
💸 The myth of the “four-year luxury cruise”
🤖 How AI is disrupting the junior dev job market
🔍 Hiring: Is college even a useful signal anymore?
🧠 IQ vs wisdom vs vibes – what really matters in hiring
🧰 Is programming a trade? Should we move to apprenticeships?
👨‍🌾 Why every dev wants to be a farmer (and why that’s delusional)

Whether you’re considering college, hiring devs, or already knee-deep in student debt, this conversation pulls no punches and may just change how you think about education, hiring, and the future of software development.

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📌 Chapters:
0:00 intro
2:05 is college still worth it in 2025?
5:48 the cost of college in the U.S. vs Europe
6:57 sponsor: CodeRabbit
7:42 good point
9:10 DHH explains the Danish education system
13:02 is college just a luxury cruise?
17:45 what are you actually buying with a degree?
21:20 how companies *really* hire developers
26:11 Casey’s take: programming should be a trade
30:40 is college a filter for IQ or just vibes?
45:50 what skills matter more than a degree
49:20 how to actually learn to code in 2025
53:00 is college redeemable? final thoughts
57:15 wrap-up & what’s next on the podcast

#IsCollegeWorthIt #DHH #CaseyMuratori #DeveloperPodcast #SoftwareEngineering #TechPodcast #BootcampVsCollege #ProgrammerLife #TechCareers #TheStartupPodcast

Why Use Windows?! - May 30, 2025

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Timestamps:

0:00 intro / pre-meeting chaos
1:48 Welcome to The Standup
3:16 Prime explains his two-PC streaming config
5:02 Real story: Netflix internal meeting leak scare
7:00 Why do game devs still use Windows?
9:23 Misread tweet kicks off Linux vs Windows debate
10:48 Casey: No one “loves” Windows — they tolerate it
13:29 Why studios can’t easily switch from Windows
15:47 IT/security & enterprise restrictions on Linux
20:15 Why clean-slate devs still choose Windows
22:22 Debugger superiority on Windows explained
24:48 Steam Deck & RAD debugger could change the tide
32:34 Anti-cheat isn’t the main Linux roadblock
35:01 Why do *you* use Mac or Linux?
36:47 Prime’s Windows pain & Linux love
40:26 Linux window managers vs Exposé
46:29 The fragility of custom Linux setups
51:09 Web dev has even more breaking changes
57:27 AI doesn’t fix underlying dev tool problems
1:00:04 Trash’s hot take on over-optimizing workflows
1:02:35 Prime explains why he optimizes *everything*
1:07:30 Valve anecdote: why default setups can be smarter
1:14:15 Keyboard nerd segment
1:16:11 Joke outro + how to “save” Windows

Why Do Game Developers STILL Use Windows?? | The Standup
🎮💻 In this episode of Standup, we dive deep into the eternal operating system war: Windows vs. macOS vs. Linux. Legendary game dev Casey Muratori (of Handmade Hero fame) joins Primeagen, Trash, and Tee to unpack why game developers still use Windows, even when most modern developers swear by Linux or Mac.

📌 Topics We Cover:
• Why game devs prefer Windows (spoiler: it’s not because they like it)
• MacOS vs. Linux vs. Windows for developers
• Is GDB actually garbage?
• Debugging tools: RAD Debugger, Visual Studio, and why Linux falls short
• Why enterprise studios can’t just switch to Linux
• Anti-cheat, Steam Deck, and the future of Linux gaming
• The unbearable pain of Windows terminals
• Why developers obsess over window managers and productivity setups
• And of course… the real debate: should devs optimize everything or just get stuff done?

🔥 Whether you’re a web developer, game dev, Linux power user, or someone just trying to survive corporate IT policies — this one hits every nerve.

👇 DROP YOUR OS HOT TAKES IN THE COMMENTS 👇

#GameDev #WindowsVsLinux #DeveloperPodcast #StandupPodcast #CaseyMuratori #LinuxGaming #DevTools #Primeagen #TechPodcast #Debugging #VisualStudio #MacVsPC #WebDev #SoftwareEngineering #SteamDeck #OpenSource #RADDebugger

Don't Clean Code! with Creator of HTMX May 27, 2025

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Twitch https://twitch.tv/ThePrimeagen
Discord https://discord.gg/ThePrimeagen

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📘 Carson’s book: https://hypermedia.systems
🧠 Grug Brained Dev: https://grugbrain.dev

Timestamps:

0:00 Intro & chaos before the call
1:45 Meet Carson Gross (HTMX creator & professor)
3:29 What is "Coding Dirty"?
5:12 Why Carson hates small methods
7:24 The myth of clean code and method size
10:06 What the data actually says about long functions
13:11 Why abstraction is not free
15:06 Long vs short functions: maintainability & changeability
18:00 Why small functions make debugging harder
21:34 Beautiful at any size: the case for fat functions
24:19 The myth of good naming solving complexity
26:55 TDD, unit tests, and when they help vs hurt
35:39 End-to-end testing: the good, the bad, the bloated
43:23 Meme culture, cringe, and developer humor

Airbnb Redesign? URLs are dead? May 23, 2025

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Timestamps:
0:00 – Intro & Time Zone Debate
1:27 – Meet Dax: New Guest Introduction
2:29 – Elizabeth Holmes' Partner Starts a New Blood Testing Company
7:56 – New Pretty URL Browser: Scam Risks & Usability
13:39 – Are Clean URLs Safer or More Deceptive for Normies?
15:52 – Dax Rants About Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky
21:07 – Why Airbnb Experiences Might Fail
25:00 – “Trash is a Flat Earther?”
30:16 – Absurd Airbnb Quotes About Steve Jobs
34:00 – Coinbase Hack: $20M Bounty Instead of Ransom
35:44 – Closing Roast: Founders With “Show Muscles”