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    The Standup with ThePrimeagen

    ThePrimeagen and Teej host The Standup – a podcast where we talk about software, life, memes and more. It’s fun, it can be informative and sometimes Trash is also here. Joined by regular guests like Casey Muratori, Carson Gross and more!

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    Latest Episodes:
    Why Making a Debugger is So Hard! (ft Ryan Fleury) Aug 22, 2025
    Show notes

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    https://twitch.tv/ThePrimeagen - I Stream 5 days a Week
    https://twitter.com/terminaldotshop - Want to order coffee over SSH?
    ssh terminal.shop
    Become Backend Dev: https://boot.dev/prime
    (plus i make courses for them)
    This is also the best way to support me is to support yourself becoming a better backend engineer.
    Great News? Want me to research and create video????: https://www.reddit.com/r/ThePrimeagen
    Kinesis Advantage 360: https://bit.ly/Prime-Kinesis


    πŸ“ Chapters:
    00:00:00 Intro
    00:02:10 Printf Debugging
    00:10:20 RAD Debugger Origins
    00:25:00 PDB (Program Database) Limit
    00:27:27 RAD Linker
    00:28:40 Working for Epic
    00:32:13 What the hell is MUMPS
    00:33:28 D Sucks
    00:34:45 Oodle Adjacent
    00:35:40 How do steps work?
    00:42:50 INT 3 Instruction/Trap
    00:46:20 Step count
    00:47:50 Overwrite and replace
    00:49:42 The desire for user level INT 3 handling
    01:00:39 Alternative to User level INT 3
    01:03:10 Chrome Debugger complaints
    01:07:51 RAD Debug features
    01:16:52 Compatible languages
    01:18:41 Gabe Newell annoucement strategy
    01:19:37 Outro 1
    01:20:01 Cleverer than Stack pointers
    01:22:55 Prime pees on stream
    01:24:20 Faking addresses and the shadow stack
    01:27:50 Data breakpoints
    01:28:38 Prime shoots his shot
    01:32:46 TLDR
    01:34:28 Debugging in VM langs
    01:35:00 PUBE G
    01:36:28 Outro 2


    2 Language Creators vs 2 Idiots Aug 18, 2025
    Show notes

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    https://twitch.tv/ThePrimeagen - I Stream 5 days a Week
    https://twitter.com/terminaldotshop - Want to order coffee over SSH?
    ssh terminal.shop


    Become Backend Dev: https://boot.dev/prime
    (plus i make courses for them)
    This is also the best way to support me is to support yourself becoming a better backend engineer.

    Great News? Want me to research and create video????: https://www.reddit.com/r/ThePrimeagen
    Kinesis Advantage 360: https://bit.ly/Prime-Kinesis


    00:00:00 - Intro
    00:02:13 - neon.com #ad
    00:03:23 - Why Functional Programming Failed?
    00:10:20 - Erlang is Functional AND OOP
    00:15:00 - The Ruby to Rust Pipeline
    00:26:00 - Ginger Bill Rust Rant
    00:29:53 - Are Macros Good or Evil?
    00:43:30 - Printing in Rust VS Odin
    00:48:00 - Mechanism Not Policy
    00:57:45 - LSP Hater VS LSP Lover
    01:04:20 - are Package Managers required?
    01:21:10 - Advice to Future Language Creators


    The Evolution of Programming Aug 16, 2025
    Show notes

    Ship Faster with Neon Postgres #ad


    Neon comes with Branching, Schema Diff, and Instant Point-In-Time Recovery to help you ship fast and recover faster. Get the free plan at


    https://twitch.tv/ThePrimeagen - I Stream 5 days a Week
    https://twitter.com/terminaldotshop - Want to order coffee over SSH?
    ssh terminal.shop
    πŸ“ Chapters:
    00:00:00 - Prime is a Great Host
    00:04:06 - Neon #ad
    00:05:04 - Giving a 2 hour talk
    00:10:16 - C++ Launch Night
    00:14:15 - Mount Rushmore of Programming Languages
    00:18:40 - What languages were influential and died off?
    00:24:00 - What is Plex
    00:42:00 - The Evolution of Languages
    00:45:40 - How Casey does Research + HOPL 5
    00:56:95 - Casey's Next Deep Dive
    01:00:00 - The Rise of Programming Historians


    Casey Muratori's Origin Story Aug 14, 2025
    Show notes

    πŸ”— Sponsored by Code Rabbit https://coderabbit.link/primeagen-vscode #sponsored


    https://twitch.tv/ThePrimeagen - I Stream 5 days a Week
    https://twitter.com/terminaldotshop - Want to order coffee over SSH?
    ssh terminal.shop


    Hosts:
    @ThePrimeagen
    @trash_dev
    @teej_dv
    @caseymuratori
    For more about Casey: https://www.computerenhance.com
    Become Backend Dev: https://boot.dev/prime
    (plus i make courses for them)
    This is also the best way to support me is to support yourself becoming a better backend engineer.
    Great News? Want me to research and create video????: https://www.reddit.com/r/ThePrimeagen
    Kinesis Advantage 360: https://bit.ly/Prime-Kinesis
    Discord https://discord.gg/ThePrimeagen
    00:00:00 - Intro
    00:01:12 - Running Galaga at compile time
    00:03:09 - J AI
    00:05:36 - The Ginger Bill Business model
    00:08:24 - OCaml + Rust features
    00:10:14 - Back on topic
    00:15:11 - Handmade Hero and inspiring others
    00:19:03 - Conferences


    Software Horror Stories Aug 04, 2025
    Show notes

    πŸ”— Sponsored by Code Rabbit https://coderabbit.link/primeagen-vscode #sponsored


    ## πŸ“Œ Chapters:
    00:00:00 - Intro & Teejs Medical Records Disaster
    00:04:20 - Code Rabbit Sponsor #ad
    00:05:04 - Nobody wants to work in Healthcare
    00:07:05 - Healthcare testing process
    00:12:00 - Epic's Development Pipeline Deep Dive
    00:21:33 - Load Testing Nightmare
    00:25:00 - The 45-Minute Site Outage
    00:27:50 - Class Registration Disaster
    00:32:00 - Everything Goes Wrong in Production
    00:35:55 - Netflix Static Variable Mistake
    00:39:00 - The Boss Who Spotted the Obvious Bug
    00:42:00 - Lady Gaga's Broken Countdown Billboard
    00:47:00 - 10 Requests /s Disaster
    00:49:30 - GraphQL Query Explosion


    ## Key Topics:
    - Medical software development challenges and patient safety
    - Epic Systems development process and MUMPS language
    - Load testing disasters and production outages
    - Netflix development war stories
    - Server-side rendering performance pitfalls
    - GraphQL resolver optimization nightmares
    - The importance of proper testing before production releases


    ## Hosts:
    - **TJ** (@teej_dv) - Epic Systems horror stories
    - **Trash Dev** (@trash_dev) - Load testing and Next.js disasters
    - **Prime** (@ThePrimeagen) - Netflix static variable nightmares


    Tailwind Creator on the Challenges of Open Source Aug 03, 2025
    Show notes

    Thank You! https://blacksmith.sh our sponsor today! Speed up your GitHub Actions AND pay less!
    https://tailwindcss.com/sponsor Love Tailwind? Consider Sponsoring!
    If you want delicious coffee sold only over SSH:
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    πŸŽ™οΈ Hosts:
    - TJ @teej_dv
    - Trash Dev @trash_dev
    - Prime @ThePrimeagen
    🎯 Guest:
    Adam Wathan - Creator of Tailwind CSS
    https://adamwathan.me
    https://x.com/adamwathan
    https://tailwindcss.com/
    πŸ“Œ Chapters:
    00:00:00 - Intro
    00:01:04 - "Open Source is Pain" - Tailwind Creator
    00:04:37 - Sponsor: Blacksmith - Faster GitHub Actions #ad
    00:05:15 - The Reality of Open Source at Scale
    00:10:55 - Cost of Full-Time Open Source
    00:13:06 - Rust Rewrite & Performance Gains
    00:16:29 - Sponsorship vs Business Models
    00:22:48 - The Emotional Side of Open Source
    00:30:15 - The Courage to Fire Users
    00:37:46 - How Tailwind Spends Money
    00:44:04 - How to Champion Open Source while making money
    00:54:06 - Licenses in Open Source
    00:58:00 - Tailwind is a hard business
    01:00:14 - VC vs Lifestyle Open Source Projects
    01:07:50 - Replication in Open Source
    01:11:00 - Tailwind Fortnite Skins
    01:16:00 - We agree on the words finally
    01:18:00 - Thanks & Wrap Up
    Key topics include:
    - The reality of maintaining open source at massive scale
    - Why sponsorship models often fail and what works instead
    - The psychological challenges of community management
    - How to build sustainable businesses around open source
    - The future of developer tooling and AI's impact
    🐬 Bonus Section 🐬
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    Why Performance Actually Matters Aug 02, 2025
    Show notes

    Watch the https://bolt.new Reward Ceremony Live!
    July 26th 10AM PST on / theprimeagen
    #sponsored https://balls.yoga
    πŸ“Œ Chapters:
    00:00:00 - Intro
    00:01:55 - The downward trend of performance expectations
    00:07:10 - The internet isn't to blame for slow speeds anymore
    00:11:27 - Dial up
    00:12:50 - School day routines and the reason behind modem sounds
    00:18:00 - Trash was a Catfish
    00:20:25 - Primes School Habits and his Moms prophetic Internet dream
    00:23:58 - Teej's highschool experience
    00:27:24 - Back on topic (its performance btw) WHO/WHAT is to blame
    00:39:38 - Speed = Sales and WHERE is the problem
    00:43:46 - Netflix BTW and WHEN performance is important
    00:48:35 - Too performant and waste
    00:53:14 - 'Hardware will catch up'
    01:01:13 - GPU vs CPU
    01:06:00 - Wrap up and closing thoughts
    Links:
    - Casey's Performance Course: https://computerenhance.com
    Featuring:
    Prime: https://x.com/ThePrimeagen
    Teej: https://x.com/teej_dv
    Casey Muratori: https://x.com/cmuratori
    Trash Dev: https://x.com/trashh_dev
    ---
    In this episode of The Standup, we tackle one of the most frustrating aspects of modern computing: why everything feels so sluggish despite having incredibly powerful hardware. Casey Muratori joins us to share his perspective on performance culture and how we've collectively lowered our standards over the past two decades.
    From nostalgic stories about dial-up internet and modem sounds to serious discussions about software architecture, this conversation covers the technical, cultural, and business factors that have led to today's performance problems. We explore real-world examples from Netflix, discuss the impact of layered abstractions, and examine how corporate development pressures contribute to the problem.
    Key topics include:
    - How performance standards have declined while hardware has improved exponentially
    - The role of abstractions and frameworks in creating performance bottlenecks
    - Real Netflix case studies showing the complex relationship between performance and user behavior
    - Why the "hardware will catch up" mentality is fundamentally flawed
    - The difference between GPU and CPU performance paradigms
    - How AI might make performance problems even worse
    - Potential solutions through better substrate design
    Whether you're a developer frustrated with slow tools, a user wondering why your powerful computer still feels sluggish, or someone interested in the intersection of technology and culture, this discussion offers valuable insights into one of computing's most persistent challenges.


    Google takes down the internet! Aug 01, 2025
    Show notes

    πŸ”— Sponsored by Sentry https://sentry.io | Code breaks, fix it faster
    #sponsored
    ssh terminal.shop
    https://lowlevel.academy/
    πŸ“Œ Chapters:
    00:00:00 - Intro
    00:02:04 - Low level explains what we know
    00:05:32 - How does this compare to the CrowdStrike outage?
    00:07:13 - What is a memory fuzzer?
    00:10:17 - What was the impact of the outage?
    00:12:22 - Movie talk sidebar
    00:14:58 - AUTH, choices and risk managment
    00:19:33 - Cloudflare also went down
    00:21:14 - Knowledge management
    00:23:07 - Chaos at Netflix
    00:32:00 - DHH's response
    00:33:21- Personally effected
    00:34:15 - Internet Of Things Devices
    00:39:38 - Personal Network Security vs Faith in Humanity
    00:42:27 - More on IOT devices
    00:48:10 - Car talk and internet connected failures
    00:51:17 - Fail open
    00:55:30 - Could Rust have prevented this?
    00:57:45 - Wrap up and outro
    Could Your Company Survive a Google Outage?
    Last week, Google Cloud went downβ€”and with it, a massive chunk of the internet. In this episode of Standup, we’re joined by security expert Low Level Learning to break down what actually happened, how a single null pointer crashed Google’s management plane, and why Cloudflare and other services followed. We also go deep on software fuzzing, dependency risk, fail-open systems, and the absurd reality of internet-connected lamps.
    Featuring:
    Prime: https://x.com/ThePrimeagen
    Casey Muratori: https://x.com/cmuratori
    Trash Dev: https://x.com/trashh_dev
    Low Level Learning: https://x.com/LowLevelTweets
    Bonus topics include: automated cat feeders, Teslas on fire, and Baby Shark as a disaster protocol.


    What even is an AI Agent?! Jul 31, 2025
    Show notes

    Watch the https://bolt.new Reward Ceremony Live!
    July 26th 10AM PST on https://www.twitch.tv/theprimeagen
    #sponsored https://balls.yoga
    πŸ“Œ Chapters:
    00:00:00 - balls.yoga, drama & intro
    00:02:00 - Building OpenCode: terminal AI agents
    00:03:00 - Bolt.new Reward Ceremony - July 26 10AM PST
    00:03:18 - Agent architecture basics explained
    00:04:08 - What is an AI Agent?
    00:05:00 - Prompt engineering and tool calling
    00:06:10 - OpenCode UX and mobile plans
    00:07:27 - Why OpenCode runs agents locally
    00:08:34 - Vision for mobile remote dev workflows
    00:09:15 - The reality of build opencode
    00:10:10 - Claude vs Opus vs others
    00:13:32 - Tool usage & LSP integration
    00:14:20 - LSP tool feedback loop
    00:17:00 - Claude is best at calling tools
    00:18:10 - Prompt tuning limitations and expectations
    00:22:20 - Modeling agent loops with tool calls
    00:24:40 - Why building a real agent isn’t just weekend work
    00:26:20 - Security tradeoffs in early development
    00:28:30 - Loop management & lossy compression
    00:29:40 - Session design & managing context
    00:30:40 - Parallel sessions and subagents
    00:33:20 - Adam banned from Twitch by his cofounder
    00:34:20 - OpenCode & Terminal.Shop development connection
    00:35:00 - What surprised them building an agent
    00:36:30 - Why TUIs are hard compared to web
    00:37:30 - Layering, pixel constraints, UI struggles
    00:38:30 - Final laughs & wrap-up
    00:39:00 - Plug for OpenCode: sst.dev/opencode
    00:40:00 - Outro: still no clue how agents work, but fun ride
    βΈ»
    Topics Covered:
    β€’ AI agents in terminal environments
    β€’ OpenCode’s CLI-first agent approach
    β€’ Loop-based tool calling in LLMs
    β€’ Integrating LSP feedback into agents
    β€’ Prompt engineering & model tool awareness
    β€’ Evaluating agents: benchmarks & metrics
    β€’ Local vs remote dev environments
    β€’ Designing for low-friction agent UX
    β€’ Safety, permission models & sandboxing
    β€’ The tradeoffs of TUIs vs web UIs
    β€’ Session design, compression & memory limits
    β€’ Humor, Twitch drama & voice AI characters


    WTF Typescript? Jul 10, 2025
    Show notes

    Trash presents his Typescript presentation from Render ATL (Sorry if you are audio only listener)
    πŸ”— Sponsored by Sentry https://sentry.io | Code breaks, fix it faster

    πŸ“Œ Chapters:

    00:00:00 - Intro
    00:00:42 - Who’s actually a β€œweb developer”?
    00:02:31 - Trash’s live intro & TypeScript presentation setup
    00:03:59 - Sentry #ad
    00:04:38 - Excess property checks in TS
    00:09:42 - WTF: Object spreads silence type errors
    00:14:30 - React prop spreading madness
    00:18:22 - Structural vs duck typing debate
    00:24:00 - WTF: Enums and why everyone hates them
    00:27:45 - Enum strings vs numbers behavior
    00:33:10 - Why enums in Node are cursed
    00:36:55 - Safer enum alternatives using const objects
    00:43:10 - TS quirks: Boolean filter keeps undefined in types
    00:46:40 - TSReset: The β€œCSS reset” for TypeScript
    00:49:01 - WTF: Empty object {} lets everything through
    00:52:32 - Doom rendered in TypeScript type system
    00:54:00 - Type-level math in TS (it’s real)
    00:56:33 - Scaling hell: TS performance bottlenecks
    01:00:01 - Flamegraphs and fighting TS perf without docs
    01:04:55 - TS inference vs explicit typing in large codebases
    01:09:30 - Prime’s favorite TS bug strikes again
    01:14:01 - Casey breaks down the compiler logic
    01:17:50 - Is this a TypeScript bug or a feature?
    01:22:44 - Final thoughts and community love

    ---

    **Topics Covered:**

    β€’ TypeScript excess property checks
    β€’ Enums vs object literals
    β€’ Structural vs duck typing
    β€’ TS compiler edge cases
    β€’ WTFs that break your mental model
    β€’ Type-level math
    β€’ Performance debugging hell
    β€’ Massive monorepo pain points
    β€’ The one TypeScript bug Prime can’t let go


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