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The Social-Engineer Podcast

The Social-Engineer Podcast is about humans. Understanding how we interact, communicate and relay information can help us protect, mitigate and understand social engineering attacks

Copyright: © 2023 Social-Engineer, LLC

Latest Episodes:

Ep. 248 - The SE ETC Series - SE in the News - Tips Tricks Feb 26, 2024

Show notes

Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The SE Etc. Series. This series will be hosted by Chris Hadnagy, CEO of Social-Engineer LLC, and The Innocent Lives Foundation, as well as Social-Engineer.Org and The Institute for Social Engineering. Join Chris as he discusses topics and news pertaining to the world of Social Engineering. [Feb 26, 2024]

00:00 - Intro

00:33 - Intro Links

- Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/

- Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/

- Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/

- Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/

- Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb

- CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/

- innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/

03:06 - The New(s) Format

04:02 - Mother of All Breaches

05:46 - Banning AI Robocalls

06:39 - AI Deep Fake

07:27 - The Tips

07:47 - Verify

08:26 - Be Cautious

10:25 - Confirm

11:44 - Educate

12:19 - Report

13:41 - Recap

14:21 - Wrap Up & Outro

- www.social-engineer.com

- www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

Find us online

- Chris Hadnagy

- Twitter: @humanhacker

- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/christopherhadnagy

Ep. 247 - Security Awareness Series - A Day In The Life of a Dark Web Threat Advisor with Mary DAngelo Feb 19, 2024

Show notes

Today on the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Security Awareness Series, Chris is joined by Mary D'Angelo. Mary helps clients understand the threats that exist on the dark web and how to use that intelligence to bolster their cybersecurity programs. With a solid foundation from the University of Washington, where she earned her Bachelor's degree, Mary has rapidly ascended as a global leader at SearchLight Cyber. Her expertise, honed over six years, delves deep into understanding the nuances of dark web threat actors and their intelligence.

Mary's and her company's insights and analyses have been instrumental in shedding light on the shadowy aspects of cyber threats emanating from the dark web. Her work not only aids in neutralizing these threats but also contributes significantly to the broader understanding of cyber security dynamics.

Additionally, Mary's passion is volunteering her talents into nonprofit organizations. She was a mentor for Big Brothers and Big Sisters. Recently, she has devoted her time to a nonprofit called, The Innocent Lives Foundation, which uses Dark Web Threat Intelligence to help law enforcement stop child traffickers. [Feb 19, 2024]

00:00 - Intro

00:41 - Intro Links:

- Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/

- Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/

- Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/

- Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/

- Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb

- CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/

- innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/

02:56 - Mary D'Angelo Intro

04:12 - What is a Dark Web Threat Intelligence Advisor?

04:36 - One Giant Leap

07:04 - On the Front Lines

11:53 - Deep Web, Dark Web, Clear Web...Oh My!

13:43 - Shifting to the Deep

14:58 - Crime Pays

17:39 - 2024 Forecast

19:00 - Left of Boom

20:53 - All in this Together

21:53 - An Ugly Example

25:19 - Timely

26:30 - Relevant

28:02 - Actionable

29:58 - What's Next?

30:54 - Mentors

- Siblings

- Larry Littleton

32:05 - Book Recommendations

- The Practitioner's Guide to the Dark Web - Searchlight Cyber

- The Ride of a Lifetime - Robert Iger

- Never Split the Difference - Christopher Voss &Tahl Raz

33:33 - Find Mary D'Angelo Online

- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/dangelomary

33:55 - Wrap Up & Outro

- www.social-engineer.com

- www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

Ep. 246 - Human Element Series - The Way of The Hero with Layne Gneiting Feb 12, 2024

Show notes

Today we are joined by Layne Gneiting. Layne is just your average guy. His family's a tad bigger than most (he's got 8 kids), but he lives in a snug 1,800 square foot home in the heart of suburbia, and still wakes up in a panic most Friday mornings when the garbage truck rumbles down the street.

However, Layne has a secret identity. Twice a year he straps on his super suit—a bicycle jersey—and sweeps executives and doctors into the biggest adventure of their lives.

It came from his biggest kick in the butt: cycling across America. Now Layne's guided teams (or gone alone) by bike through 49 countries, and this year he'll finally publish his stories about them.

[Feb 12, 2024]

00:00 - Intro

00:18 - Intro Links

- Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/

- Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/

- Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/

- Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/

- Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb

- CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/

- innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/

03:04 - Layne Gneiting Intro

04:04 - Anything is Possible

06:48 - The Road Less Traveled

07:57 - Summer Break

08:42 - Morning Commute

09:42 - Growth X Bazillion

10:56 - The Details

12:13 - Eight is Enough

15:02 - Wanderlust

16:33 - How to Broaden

19:55 - Go With the Flow

22:38 - Safety First

25:40 - Get With the Program

26:54 - It's About the Adventure

28:09 - Find Layne Gneiting online

- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/wayofthehero/

- Website: wayofthehero.com

28:52 - Coming Up Next!

30:51 - Mentors

32:14 - Book Recommendations

- The Alchemist - Paulo Coelho

- The King of Attolia - Megan Whalen Turner

34:01 - Guest Wrap Up & Outro

- www.social-engineer.com

- www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

Ep. 245 - The Doctor Is In Series - I Trust You with Dr. Paul Zak Feb 05, 2024

Show notes

Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Doctor Is In Series – where we will discuss understandings and developments in the field of psychology.

In today's episode, Chris and Abbie are joined by Dr. Paul J. Zak. Dr. Zak is a University Professor at Claremont Graduate University and is in the top 0.3% of most cited scientists. Paul's two decades of research extending the boundaries of behavioral neuroscience have taken him from the Pentagon to Fortune 50 boardrooms to the rainforest of Papua New Guinea. His most recent book is Immersion: The Science of the Extraordinary and the Source of Happiness. Besides his academic appointment, he is a four time tech entrepreneur. In 2017 he founded Immersion Neuroscience, a software platform that allows anyone to measure what the brain loves in real-time that is used to improve outcomes in entertainment, education, advertising, and emotional health. He is a regular TED speaker and has appeared on Good Morning America, Dr. Phil, Fox & Friends, ABC Evening News, and his work has been reported in The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, USA Today, Time, The Economist, Scientific American, Fast Company, Forbes, and many others. [Feb 5, 2024]

00:00 - Intro

00:17 - Dr. Abbie Maroño Intro

00:58 - Intro Links

- Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/

- Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/

- Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/

- Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/

- Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb

- CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/

- innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/

04:16 - The Topic of the Day: Trust

04:31 - Dr. Paul Zak Intro

06:37 - I Might Be a Martian

08:38 - The Great Motivator

11:21 - Win-Win

13:07 - Thrill of the Chase

14:14 - Being Practical

16:01 - Reverse-Engineering

16:56 - Persuadable Humans

19:23 - Measuring Emotions

21:33 - Part of a Team

25:46 - Dogs and Cats Living Together

29:33 - Trust But Verify

32:37 - The Answer: Slow Down!

34:39 - Free Won't

36:16 - It's Still On You

37:34 - I Think, Therefore I Do

40:12 - What About Love?

43:25 - Time is Happiness

45:48 - Find Dr. Zak Online

- LinkedIn: in/paul-zak-91123510

- Website: getimmersion.com

46:26 - Wrap Up

- Immersion – Dr. Paul J. Zak

48:17 - Next Month: Irrational Fears

48:25 - Outro

- www.social-engineer.com

- www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

Ep. 202 - Human Element Series - As a Leader Are You REDI for the 3 C's with Gena Cox REPLAY (Original Air Date: March 13, 2023) Jan 29, 2024

Show notes

REPLAY (Original Air Date: March 13, 2023)

Today we are joined by Gena Cox, PhD. Gena is a corporate adviser and executive coach known as a straight-shooter who also brings warmth and generosity of spirit to her partnerships. She guides CEOs, leaders, and boards as they respond to evolving stakeholder expectations and transformation driven by societal change and organic and M&A growth. Her differentiator is the nuanced insights and recommendations she brings from a lifetime of continuous multi-disciplinary learning, enabling her to offer clients uniquely invaluable insights. Her book, Leading Inclusion, is available wherever books are sold. The book catalyzes executive leaders to drive inclusion from the top of their organizations. [March 13, 2023]

00:00 – Intro

00:20 – Intro Links

- Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/

- Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/

- Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/

- Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/

- Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb

- CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/

- innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/

02:43 - Gena Cox Intro

04:00 - What was the path to becoming a Leadership Advisor?

07:25 - Dealing With the Frustration

09:24 - The Immigrant Experience

11:27 - The Need for a Strategy

16:08 - Inclusion Tops Diversity

19:32 - Are You REDI?

20:52 - A Leadership Problem

24:33 - Chief Transformation Officer

27:21 - From the Top Down

30:33 - Don't Assume, Ask!

33:54 - Is there anybody listening?

38:05 - Find Gena Cox online

- Website: https://genacox.com

- LinkedIn: in/genacox

- Instagram: @genacoxphd

- Twitter: @genacox

38:54 - Book Recommendations

- Can We Talk? - Roberta Chinsky Matuson

- TED Talks - Chris Anderson

- Leading Inclusion - Gena Cox

42:00 - Who would you consider your greatest mentors?

- Maternal Grandmother

- Lawrence W. Hamilton

45:19 - Guest Wrap Up & Outro

- www.social-engineer.com

- www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

Ep. 244 - The SE ETC Series - Daytime Break In with Shelby Dacko PART 2 Jan 22, 2024

Show notes

Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The SE Etc. Series. This series will be hosted by Chris Hadnagy, CEO of Social-Engineer LLC, and The Innocent Lives Foundation, as well as Social-Engineer.Org and The Institute for Social Engineering. Chris will be joined by his co-host Patrick Laverty as they discuss topics pertaining to the world of Social Engineering.

Today Chris and Patrick are once again joined by Shelby Dacko. Shelby is a Human Risk Analyst with Social‐Engineer, LLC. Her specialties include vishing, OSINT work, educational material production, and public speaking. Notably, she has made over 20,000 vishing calls in her career. She holds a Certified Ethical Social Engineer (CESE) certification and has spoken for Fortune 500 companies.

Coming from a background that includes teaching English, and interpreting American Sign Language, Shelby has always had an interest in communication. That interest led her to the Foundational Application of Social Engineering (FASE) class, which she now co-teaches with Christopher Hadnagy.

On her days off, Shelby enjoys volunteering for the Innocent Lives Foundation and painting.

[Jan 22, 2024]

00:00 - Intro

00:19 - Patrick Laverty Intro

00:49 - Intro Links

- Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/

- Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/

- Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/

- Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/

- Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb

- CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/

- innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/

04:23 - Today's Topic: Telling Stories with Shelby (Part 2)

05:18 - Previously on SE, ETC.

06:43 - Night & Day

07:59 - Finding Our "In"

09:03 - You're Gonna Like the Way You Look

10:54 - We Don't Need No Stinking Badges

12:01 - Attack of the Clones

14:06 - Good Ole' Barb

18:25 - Leisurely Stroll

20:27 - Mission Accomplished!

24:31 - Left to Our Own Devices

29:45 - Being Flexible

31:07 - You Still Need to Plan

33:46 - Debrief BBQ

35:38 - Reposition Ring

40:17 - Wrap Up & Goodbye

42:10 - Outro

- www.social-engineer.com

- www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

Find us online

- Chris Hadnagy

- Twitter: @humanhacker

- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/christopherhadnagy

- Patrick Laverty

- Twitter: @plaverty9

- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/plaverty9

- Shelby Dacko

- Twitter: @scarylilhuman

- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/shelbydacko

Ep. 243 - Security Awareness Series - Be a Cultural Lightning Rod with Robert Wood Jan 15, 2024

Show notes

Today on the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Security Awareness Series, Ryan and I are joined by Robert Wood. Mr. Wood is the Chief Information Security Officer (CISO) for the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS). He leads enterprise cyber security, compliance, privacy, and counter intelligence functions at CMS and ensures the Agency complies with secure IT requirements while encouraging innovation.

Mr. Wood has over 10 years of experience in information technology, information security and management consulting.

Prior to CMS, Mr. Wood has built and managed several security programs in the technology sector. He was also formerly a Principal Consultant for Cigital where he advised enterprises about their software security programs. He also founded and led the red team assessment practice with Cigital, focused on holistic adversarial analysis, helping organizations identify and manage risks from alternative perspectives.

Mr. Wood has a B.S. in Information Management & Technology from Syracuse University. [Jan 15, 2024]

00:00 - Intro

00:18 - Ryan Intro

01:03 - Intro Links:

- Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/

- Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/

- Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/

- Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/

- Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb

- CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/

- innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/

04:28 - Robert Wood Intro

05:35 - A Small Career Jump

10:31 - The Constant Desire to Learn

12:58 - Unique Challenges

16:08 - Measure & Manage

20:01 - Making it Human

23:14 - Executive Power

26:35 - Pushing Up

29:18 - Part of a Team

32:45 - Mentors

35:44 - Book Recommendations

- Think Again - Adam Grant

- Steal Like An Artist - Austin Kleon

38:29 - Find Robert Wood Online

- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/holycyberbatman

- Website: softsideofcyber.com

39:32 - Wrap Up & Outro

- www.social-engineer.com

- www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

TAGS:

Ep. 242 - Human Element Series - The Greatest Salesman in the World - Is It AI? with Tony UV Jan 08, 2024

Show notes

Today we are joined by Tony UcedaVélez. Tony UV is the co-creator of the Process for Attack Simulation & Threat Analysis and the CEO of VerSprite. Tony has over 25 years of IT/InfoSec work across a vast range of industries. He is also the OWASP leader for Atlanta, GA. [Jan 8, 2024]

00:00 - Intro

00:19 - Intro Links

- Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/

- Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/

- Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/

- Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/

- Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb

- CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/

- innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/

03:00 Tony UV Intro

03:34 Good in Chaos

05:28 VerSprite

06:18 Future Focus

09:38 It's Like a Flea Market

13:19 Groomed by Marketing

14:46 The Age of Misinformation

17:14 How to Defend

21:34 Human Validation

23:49 Implicit Trust

26:01 Zero Trust in Humans

29:33 Mentors

- Parents

32:25 Book Recommendations

- The Alchemist - Paulo Coelho

- The Greatest Salesman in the World - Og Mandino

34:08 Find Tony UV online

- X/Twitter: @t0nyuv

- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/tonyuv/

34:53 - Guest Wrap Up & Outro

- www.social-engineer.com

- www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

Ep. 241 - The Doctor Is In Series - Understanding Different Types of Trauma Bonding Jan 02, 2024

Show notes

Ep. 240 - The SE ETC Series - Swimming in Rivers and Stealing Trucks with Shelby Dacko Dec 26, 2023

Show notes

Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The SE Etc. Series. This series will be hosted by Chris Hadnagy, CEO of Social-Engineer LLC, and The Innocent Lives Foundation, as well as Social-Engineer.Org and The Institute for Social Engineering. Chris will be joined by his co-host Patrick Laverty as they discuss topics pertaining to the world of Social Engineering.

Today Chris and Patrick are joined by Shelby Dacko. Shelby is a Human Risk Analyst with Social‐Engineer, LLC. Her specialties include vishing, OSINT work, educational material production, and public speaking. Notably, she has made over 20,000 vishing calls in her career. She holds a Certified Ethical Social Engineer (CESE) certification and has spoken for Fortune 500 companies.

Coming from a background that includes teaching English, and interpreting American Sign Language, Shelby has always had an interest in communication. That interest led her to the Foundational Application of Social Engineering (FASE) class, which she now co-teaches with Christopher Hadnagy.

On her days off, Shelby enjoys volunteering for the Innocent Lives Foundation and painting.

[Dec 26, 2023]

00:00 - Intro

00:17 - Patrick Laverty Intro

01:09 - Intro Links

- Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/

- Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/

- Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/

- Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/

- Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb

- CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/

- innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/

03:56 - Shelby Dacko Intro

04:18 - Today's Topic: Telling Stories with Shelby

04:59 - Something In The Water

07:02 - OSINT in the Jungle

10:11 - Get Out of Jail Free Card

13:19 - Golden Ticket

16:20 - Busted!

19:30 - Droning On and On

23:21 - On-Site OSINT

24:11 - Over the River...

28:02 -...and Through the Woods

30:03 - Killroy Was Here

32:01 - Nobody Watching

34:23 - Teamwork

36:31 - Mind the Gap

38:46 - Game On!

40:29 - Got the Keys

44:13 - Full Circle

45:37 - Part 2???

46:36 - Next Month

47:02 - Wrap Up & Outro

- www.social-engineer.com

- www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

Find us online

- Chris Hadnagy

- Twitter: @humanhacker

- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/christopherhadnagy

- Patrick Laverty

- Twitter: @plaverty9

- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/plaverty9

- Shelby Dacko

- Twitter: @scarylilhuman

- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/shelbydacko

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