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    The New Music Business with Ari Herstand

    **WEBBY AWARD FOR BEST MUSIC PODCAST**

    “#1 music industry podcast to help keep you in the loop” -Spotify

    “The 10 Best Music Business Podcasts of 2022″ – Variety

    Ari Herstand is the best-selling author of How To Make It in the New Music Business. Forbes calls him “The poster child of DIY music.” In this show, he deconstructs the brightest minds in the music industry, digging deep to find the tools, tactics, and strategies that listeners can use to run successful careers of their own. Ari offers straight talk with no fluff and doesn’t let his guests off easy. If there is a way, Ari will find it.

    To learn more follow @aristake_ and @ariherstand

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    Latest Episodes:
    Repairing Racial Inequities in the Music Industry with Artist Manager Jonathan Azu Feb 17, 2021
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    Today we are re-running an episode. This is the first time we've ever done this. It's an episode that initially premiered last July with artist manager Jonathan Azu. This is in honor of Black History Month this month because Jonathan and I had a really illuminating conversation about how to repair racial inequities in the music business. We also discuss how our industry, at the executive level, is so white. Specifically in Billboard Power 100, there's only one black person in the top 50. Jonathan has some ideas as to why and how we can help repair those disparities.


    Jonathan Azu is also a member of the Black Music Action Coalition (BMAC), which I spoke about last week with Dina LaPolt who is one of the founding members. Jonathan also recently launched the Diversity in Music. It is the first ever employment talent directory for underrepresented women and minorities in music.


    Jonathan Azu is an artist manager for artists like Cory Henry, Luke James, Emily King, and Michelle Williams among others. He used to be the executive vice president and general manager of Red Light Management. He is also a two-time Billboard magazine 40 Under 40 power player. Over a year ago, he launched his own management company called Culture Collective.


    A Forbes 2017 article outlined that hip-hop and R&B genres are responsible for 25% of all music consumption and over 29% of all on-demand streams across the United States. However, executives of color are still relatively scarce atop major music companies. The top 10 out of 10 on the Billboard Power 100 list are all white, and there's only two people of color in the top 50. Azu breaks this down on why he thinks this is and how to fix it because it's a problem.


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    Diversity in Music: https://diversityinmusic.org


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    Quick links:


    3:14 - How Jonathan Azu and his artists have been doing since touring has been shut down

    11:44 - What Azu's artists are doing in quarantine - how they are staying busy

    14:59 - Artists doing live streaming events

    17:47 - About Culture Collective and Azu's journey to get to where he's at today

    28:01 - Advice to white colleagues asking for advice on curbing systemic racism in the music industry

    34:27 - About The Black Music Coalition

    38:09 - Lack of racial diversification in the Billboard Power 100 list

    40:29 - Shifting internships to paid internships and going outside typical recruiting tactics - should there be mentorship programs?

    42:12 - Would reparations be the correct route to approach racial injustices in the music industry?

    53:02 - Are people losing interest in the black lives matter movement?

    58:04 - Was having an all black roster for Culture Collective intentional?

    1:03:59 - Azu's artist Emily King two Grammy nominations


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    Music Attorney Dina LaPolt on Getting Laws Passed and Fighting for Songwriters Feb 10, 2021
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    Disney Music Supervisor on Placing Music for Trailers Feb 03, 2021
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    Twitch VP of Music: $50K+/yr Only Takes 183 Fans Jan 27, 2021
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    My guest today is Tracy Patrick Chan. He is currently the Head of Music at Twitch. He is the top honcho; the dude; he's the guy in charge of the direction of all things music at Twitch. He started at Twitch at the beginning of the pandemic in early 2020.


    He has a very impressive resume. He was the guy that created Spotify for Artists. Before that, he was at YouTube and created the artist tools like YouTube analytics. And depending on when you're listening to this episode, things may have changed and evolved quite a bit because we talk about specific programs and features, but the bulk of what we discuss is how to be successful on Twitch.


    Should you start Twitch? Who's Twitch for? Is it good for everyone or just a select few? Do you need millions of followers to make a living on Twitch (you don't)? He talks about a really interesting stat about making a living on the platform. It's astounding on what you actually need to make a living on the platform.


    Today's a special episode. It's a live podcast episode in the spirit of what we're talking about, which is livestreaming on Twitch. We invited Ari's Take Academy students to be a part of the conversation, and you'll hear a few of their questions at the end.


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    Twitch for Artists: https://www.twitch.tv/p/en/artists/


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    Quick links:


    4:50 - About Tracy Patrick Chan

    10:23 - Challenges with musicians streaming on Twitch

    13:12 - Subsidizing lost income from touring with livestreaming on Twitch

    21:55 - Making a living on Twitch takes fewer fans than you think - here's how to do it

    41:42 - What are musicians allowed to stream on Twitch? Can they stream cover songs?

    44:15 - How much of Twitch is live and how much is replays?

    46:40 - What is Soundtrack?

    49:07 - How to get your music on Soundtrack

    52:00 - Ari's Take Academy student questions

    1:03:40 - What it means to Tracy Patrick Chan to 'make it' in the New Music Business


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    Website: https://aristake.com

    Academy: https://aristakeacademy.com

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    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@aris.take

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    Connect with Ari Herstand:


    Website: https://ariherstand.com

    Instagram: https://instagram.com/ariherstand

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/ariherstand

    YouTube: https://youtube.com/ariherstand

    Facebook: https://facebook.com/ariherstand

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    Mothica Went Viral on TikTok at Just the Right Time Jan 20, 2021
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    Audrey Nuna's Path to a Major Label Deal with Her Manager/Producer Anwar Sawyer Oct 28, 2020
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    Today's guest is Anwar Sawyer. He started as (and still is) a songwriter and producer. He's based in New York and is a classically trained pianist. He studied classical piano and composition at Westminster Choir College and New York Institute of Technology. He's signed to Roc Nation Publishing and has now started a management company, SMG Entertainment, where his breakout artist is Audrey Nuna. She's currently signed to Sony Arista Records.


    Anwar and I talk about being a producer/songwriter and writing thousands of songs and even how he got his publishing deal. We also talk about developing this young artist and what the process is behind that. She has millions and millions of streams and has collaborated with DJ Snake and Jack Harlow. And by the time you're listening to this episode, she might be taking over the world because she's a pop star on the rise.


    This was a live podcast in front of Ari's Take Academy students. They were able to ask questions at the end. We included a few of their questions at the end, and I know you're not going to want to miss them.


    If you want to check out Ari's Take Academy head over to the website: https://www.aristakeacademy.com/


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    Quick links:


    3:35 - About Anwar Sawyer

    8:35 - How Anwar landed his Roc Nation Publishing deal

    17:44 - What's it like being a songwriter/producer signed to a publishing deal?

    19:25 - How Anwar and Audrey Nuna started working together

    24:00 - How do you promote an artist with 0 fans? What's the release strategy look like?

    28:33 - Once Audrey's following and stream counts begin growing, what were your next steps?

    33:18 - When "Soufflé" was released, where was Audrey Nuna at in her career? What were her numbers like?

    35:22 - A simple compliment can be your 'in' with a music professional

    41:42 - What made Anwar and Audrey Nuna sign with Sony Arista Records over other labels?

    45:53 - Ari's Take Academy student questions

    52:31 - What it means to Anwar Sawyer to 'make it' in the New Music Business


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    Website: https://aristake.com

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    Connect with Ari Herstand:


    Website: https://ariherstand.com

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    Connect with Anwar Sawyer:


    Website: https://www.smgent.com/

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    Nu Deco Ensemble Orchestra is Changing the Classical World Oct 21, 2020
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    How to Livestream for Musicians with the #1 Musician on Periscope - Clare Means Oct 14, 2020
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    Today's guest is Clare Means. She's a Los Angeles-based singer-songwriter. She got her start performing on the Santa Monica Pier. Now she's known for her success on the livestreaming platforms, specifically Twitch, Facebook, YouTube Live, and Periscope. She's actually one of the most watched musicians on Periscope. Since quarantine started, she went all in on livestreaming.


    Clare talks all about her journey livestreaming, how she built up to be the most successful livestreamer on Periscope, and what it's looked like since she started livestreaming on all of the other platforms. She breaks each of them down and explains how you can make money on them. She makes her full living exclusively livestreaming.


    I've been so intrigued by her journey livestreaming, which is why I asked her to be an instructor for an Ari's Take Academy course to teach it. Use code NMB for 10% off: https://aristakeacademy.teachable.com/p/livestreaming-for-musicians


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    Quick links:


    2:55 - About Clare Means and her setup

    7:14 - Clare's livestreaming story and how she got started

    11:23 - Stories from Clare street performing

    17:07 - How Clare got people to stop and listen to her street performing

    22:25 - What about street performing has made Clare a better livestreamer?

    27:20 - The platforms Clare livestreams to and why

    31:24 - Monetization possibilities on each livestreaming platform

    39:07 - Which platform Clare makes the most money on and where her engagement is the best

    47:58 - Clare's advice to musicians who want to get started livestreaming

    55:12 - What it means to Clare Means to 'make it' in the new music business


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    Connect with Ari Herstand:


    Website: https://ariherstand.com

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    Connect with Clare Means:


    Website: https://www.claremeansmusic.com/

    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/5gc2EPzFCpY9xxn1BGqjET?si=3UdTcG_-TsS1bu0-9Zprtw

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ClareMeans

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    Paradigm Fired Them So They Started a New Booking Agency With an Impressive Roster Oct 07, 2020
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    Former Major Label Executive is Creating a New Investment Model Sep 30, 2020
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