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    Music

    The New Music Business with Ari Herstand

    **WEBBY AWARD FOR BEST MUSIC PODCAST**

    “#1 music industry podcast to help keep you in the loop” -Spotify

    “The 10 Best Music Business Podcasts of 2022″ – Variety

    Ari Herstand is the best-selling author of How To Make It in the New Music Business. Forbes calls him “The poster child of DIY music.” In this show, he deconstructs the brightest minds in the music industry, digging deep to find the tools, tactics, and strategies that listeners can use to run successful careers of their own. Ari offers straight talk with no fluff and doesn’t let his guests off easy. If there is a way, Ari will find it.

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    Should Artists Boycott Spotify? Feb 11, 2022
    Show notes

    On this episode, Ari breaks down the whole Spotify issue of the moment and why the music industry seems to be up in arms. He discusses the discrepancy between streams and sales, why the per-stream rate is the wrong conversation to be having, how songwriters can get paid more from streaming, why everyone’s anger is misguided, how indie artists can monetize their audience, how many artists are actually earning $10,000+ from Spotify royalties.


    Read the article, Should Artists Boycott Spotify Like Neil Young: https://aristake.com/neil-young-spotify/

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    Disney Music Supervisor, Brian Vickers, on Placing Music for Trailers Feb 09, 2022
    Show notes

    In honor of Black History Month, we’re re-airing one of our favorite NMB episodes with Brian Vickers. He is a music supervisor at Disney. He works in the in-house trailer department where he developed a number of trailers including The Avengers, Star Wars: The Last Jedi & The Rise of Skywalker, Black Panther, Soul, Hamilton, Frozen II, Black is King, and many, many more.


    Ari and Brian dig into all things sync licensing. They spend a significant amount of time on how to become a music supervisor. And they touch on how independent artists can get their music synced in trailers.


    3:11 - Working as a music supervisor for Disney since COVID-19 hit and quarantine started

    12:38 - "Custom spots" and what the conversations look like between music supervisors and musicians

    17:41 - How to find reputable trailer music production companies

    20:13 - Do these trailer houses have in-house composers or producers that they work with?

    23:10 - Clearing tracks / staying away from samples and making supervisors' jobs easier

    25:35 - Placing a song because it is perfect and then it doesn't work out when it 'goes up the chain'

    28:39 - Breaking down the song placement process

    33:59 - Brian's musical background

    42:28 - Music supervisor and sync licensing community

    45:40 - How to reach out to music supervisors

    50:30 - How to become a music supervisor

    58:00 - What it means to make it in the new music business


    Connect with Ari’s Take:


    Website: https://aristake.com

    Academy: https://aristakeacademy.com

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aristake_/

    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@aris.take

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/ArisTake

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/aristake1

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/aristake/


    Connect with Ari Herstand:


    Website: https://ariherstand.com

    Instagram: https://instagram.com/ariherstand

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/ariherstand

    YouTube: https://youtube.com/ariherstand

    Facebook: https://facebook.com/ariherstand


    Connect with Brian Vickers:


    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianvickers318/

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/ChadTheCoolcat

    IMDb: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianvickers318/

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    Addressing Mental Health in the Music Industry with Backline Feb 02, 2022
    Show notes

    Hilary Gleason is the Co-Founder and Executive Director of Backline, a non-profit that provides free mental health and wellness resources to music industry professionals and their families. In this episode, Hilary breaks down Backline’s positive impact within the industry, and the various programs they offer such as weekly support groups over Zoom as well as therapy through their Case Management Program. Learn more about Backline: http://backline.care


    3:55 What is Backline?

    6:25 Programs offered by Backline

    7:11 Music industry culture

    13:23 Other mental health initiatives and programs in the industry

    15:04 Touring resources

    15:36 Practical advice for artists

    20:46 Social media comparison

    24:33 Black Mental Health Alliance, Asian and LGBTQ+ communities

    32:04 Therapy within Backline’s Case Management Program

    36:54 How Backline is funded

    39:09 Final question


    Subscribe to The New Music Business: https://aristake.com/nmb

    Ari's Take Academy (use code NMB for 10% off): https://aristakeacademy.com

    Watch more discussions like this: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLc1Fatf4celK3kYoJ6FUdN7qtYSCvAAMY


    Connect with Ari’s Take:


    Website: https://aristake.com

    Academy: https://aristakeacademy.com

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aristake_/

    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@aris.take

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/ArisTake

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/aristake1

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/aristake/


    Connect with Ari Herstand:


    Website: https://ariherstand.com

    Instagram: https://instagram.com/ariherstand

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/ariherstand

    YouTube: https://youtube.com/ariherstand

    Facebook: https://facebook.com/ariherstand


    Connect with Hilary Gleason (Backline):


    Website: http://www.backline.care/

    Instagram: https://instagram.com/backline.care

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/backline_care

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/backline.care


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    How Glass Animals Went Viral on TikTok Jan 26, 2022
    Show notes

    Griffin Haddrill is the co-founder and CEO of the leading viral marketing agency, VRTCL. Alongside business partner Sean Young, VRTCL was founded in 2019 providing marketing services for some of today’s most popular artists and record labels such as Universal Music, Warner Records, Sony Music, showing them how to best utilize TikTok and execute campaigns to optimize records performance and brand activity among its global user base.


    Prior to VRTCL, Haddrill was a talent manager, signing songwriters and producers who worked with the likes of Karol G, Kevinho, Travis Porter, Riff Raff, among others. Haddrill also represented world-class DJs such as ATLiens and Tisoki who perform at major global music festivals, including Coachella, Electric Daisy Carnival, and Bonnaroo.


    In this episode, Griffin breaks down how Glass Animals, Adele, Justin Bieber, Lil Nas X, and The Weeknd leveraged TikTok to crack the Billboard 100 with their new songs.


    He also discusses the importance of indie musicians embracing TikTok, VRTCL’s approach to getting TikTok trends to catch, and how to get your music to go viral on the platform.


    02:43 VRTCL's charting songs on Billboard

    06:27 Influencers and viral marketing

    09:23 Where VRTCL comes in

    10:27 Working with Glass Animals

    12:28 Business relationship with influencers

    16:37 Influencers within VRTCL's network and rates

    20:09 Micro vs. macro influencers

    21:51 User generated content (UGC)

    23:18 TikTok's hook

    25:49 Choreographic trends

    29:10 Working with Labels vs. Management vs. Artists

    31:00 How to inspire artists to embrace TikTok

    35:11 How to get your music to go viral

    38:23 Audio recognition, unauthorized "original sound" remixes and DSPs

    44:32 Tech vs. music's intellectual property

    46:41 Marketing investment and bridging success

    48:59 Booking agents and touring artists

    52:36 Geo-targeting vs. Ads

    53:26 Tips for artist getting started on TikTok

    55:45 Final question


    Subscribe to The New Music Business: https://aristake.com/nmb

    Ari's Take Academy (use code NMB for 10% off): https://aristakeacademy.com

    Watch more discussions like this: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLc1Fatf4celK3kYoJ6FUdN7qtYSCvAAMY


    Connect with Ari’s Take:


    Website: https://aristake.com

    Academy: https://aristakeacademy.com

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aristake_/

    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@aris.take

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/ArisTake

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/aristake1

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/aristake/


    Connect with Ari Herstand:


    Website: https://ariherstand.com

    Instagram: https://instagram.com/ariherstand

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/ariherstand

    YouTube: https://youtube.com/ariherstand

    Facebook: https://facebook.com/ariherstand


    Connect with Griffin Haddrill:


    Website: http://vrtcl.video/

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/griffin-haddrill-a2a3a6101

    Business Insider: https://www.businessinsider.com/tiktok-music-marketers-explain-pay-rates-for-influencer-campaigns-2020-12


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    How This Vibraphonist Became a TikTok Influencer and Hit Songwriter with Justin Vibes Jan 19, 2022
    Show notes

    Justin Vibes is a multi-platinum songwriter, producer, vocalist, and vibraphonist. Over recent years, the Baltimore born and Trinidadian musician found success in Los Angeles writing songs for Eminem, Chris Brown, Tyga, and Kodak Black. With the alternative pop duo, Capital Cities, he has performed at festivals such as Coachella and Lollapalooza, as well as different world tours under his belt.


    In this episode, Vibes discusses how he went viral on TikTok, the uniqueness of incorporating the vibraphone into mainstream music, his career as both a solo artist and collaborator, and much more. Welcome to season 3!


    05:25 Justin’s Story

    08:04 Taking Song Requests

    13:18 Going Viral on TikTok (Nickelodeon and ESPN)

    19:52 The Result of Going Viral

    26:45 Brand Deals and Partnerships

    30:09 How Much Justin Makes

    35:05 Writing Jingles

    36:43 Brand Deals and Partnerships (Continued)

    40:53 If a Brand Video Flops

    44:57 Ari’s Acting Career

    46:42 Advice for Musicians on TikTok

    1:00:46 Justin’s Career As a Songwriter and Producer

    1:10:00 Ghost Writing and Publishing Deals

    1:15:32 What’s Next for Justin

    1:18:58 Final Question


    Subscribe to The New Music Business: https://aristake.com/nmb

    Ari's Take Academy (use code NMB for 10% off): https://aristakeacademy.com

    Watch more discussions like this: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLc1Fatf4celK3kYoJ6FUdN7qtYSCvAAMY


    Connect with Ari’s Take:


    Website: https://aristake.com

    Academy: https://aristakeacademy.com

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aristake_/

    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@aris.take

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/ArisTake

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/aristake1

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/aristake/


    Connect with Ari Herstand:


    Website: https://ariherstand.com

    Instagram: https://instagram.com/ariherstand

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/ariherstand

    YouTube: https://youtube.com/ariherstand

    Facebook: https://facebook.com/ariherstand


    Connect with Justin Vibes:


    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamjustinvibe

    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@iamjustinvibes

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCn7G9Ui8xI41mpqgDajLAdA

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/iamjustinvibes



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    Primary Wave Publishing on Sync Licensing Cover Songs and Legacy Recordings with Marty Silverstone Aug 25, 2021
    Show notes

    Marty is Head of Sync at Primary Wave, overseeing licensing activity for Primary Wave’s music publishing and management clients. With staff in Los Angeles and New York, the dynamic Primary Wave Sync team is a key part of Primary Wave’s proactive marketing approach, constantly creating new opportunities and driving big ideas for music in film/TV, advertising, video games, and other visual media.


    In 17 years in music publishing, Marty has worked with and secured placements in film, TV and advertising campaigns for artists such as Kurt Cobain, Smokey Robinson, Def Leppard, Hall & Oates, Aerosmith, Collective Soul, Bruce Hornsby, Kenny Loggins, L.P. and Foy Vance.He was recognized as one of Billboard Magazine’s Top Branding Power Players in both 2018 and 2019.


    Ari and Marty discuss how cover songs work in sync licensing along with how legacy acts get their music licensed. They also touch on what kinds of music brands are looking for at the moment. The two are joined by Ari’s Take Academy students for a Q&A at the end.


    Connect with Ari’s Take:


    Website: https://aristake.com

    Academy: https://aristakeacademy.com

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aristake_/

    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@aris.take

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/ArisTake

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/aristake1

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/aristake/


    Connect with Ari Herstand:


    Website: https://ariherstand.com

    Instagram: https://instagram.com/ariherstand

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/ariherstand

    YouTube: https://youtube.com/ariherstand

    Facebook: https://facebook.com/ariherstand


    Connect with Primary Wave


    Website: https://primarywave.com/

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    Afrobeat Artist Fiokee on Nigerian Music Scene and Staying Independent Aug 18, 2021
    Show notes

    Ifiok Effanga, professionally known as Fiokee, dubbed as Africa’s No1 sensational Guitarist is a Nigerian talent who hails from Akwa Ibom. He is known for his treble guitar solos infused with highlife steeped guitar lines. Fiokee is associated with acts such as Tiwa Savage, Yemi Alade, Patoranking, Reekado Banks, Adekunle Gold, Flavour, Simi, and Kiss Daniel, among others.


    Connect with Ari’s Take:


    Website: https://aristake.com

    Academy: https://aristakeacademy.com

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aristake_/

    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@aris.take

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/ArisTake

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/aristake1

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/aristake/


    Connect with Ari Herstand:


    Website: https://ariherstand.com

    Instagram: https://instagram.com/ariherstand

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/ariherstand

    YouTube: https://youtube.com/ariherstand

    Facebook: https://facebook.com/ariherstand


    Connect with Fiokee


    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fiokee/?hl=en

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    Imogen Heap is Building a More Equitable Future for Musicians Aug 04, 2021
    Show notes

    Self-produced British composer and recording artist for over 20 years, Imogen Heap has released five solo albums, another as one half of Frou Frou and collaborated with countless and varied artists including Taylor Swift, Nitin Sawhney, Deadmau5, Eric Whitacre, Jeff Beck and Jon Hopkins. Her compositions and songs pop up in blockbuster and indie films as well as countless TV shows, are featured in underground rap and dance music and covered by the likes of Ariana Grande. As composer and arranger for one of the biggest hits in theatrical history, Harry Potter and The Cursed Child, Imogen won the Drama Desk Outstanding Music in a Play award. As a sought-after speaker and performer, Heap hosted 2020’s Grammys Premiere Ceremony. Heap’s collaborative and multi-dimensional workflow attracts companies for commissioned works, leading to songs such as Tiny Human, the first song to distribute payments via a Smart Contract, and The Happy Song, a highly successful song for children in their early-years. Heap, recognized as an artist's artist, has won two Grammys and an Ivor Novello award. In recognition of her pioneering work at the intersection of music and tech, Heap has a hat trick of three honorary doctorates for the gestural music-ware 'MI.MU gloves' system and recently for ’The Creative Passport’, an integrated digital ID solution, empowering music makers to be the change toward a fair and flourishing music ecosystem.


    In this episode, Ari and Imogen discuss NFTs, metadata and payment transparency and how to properly credit (and pay) creators using the blockchain. Overall, how to make the future of music more equitable for musicians.


    Connect with Ari’s Take:


    Website: https://aristake.com

    Academy: https://aristakeacademy.com

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aristake_/

    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@aris.take

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/ArisTake

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/aristake1

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/aristake/


    Connect with Ari Herstand:


    Website: https://ariherstand.com

    Instagram: https://instagram.com/ariherstand

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/ariherstand

    YouTube: https://youtube.com/ariherstand

    Facebook: https://facebook.com/ariherstand


    Connect with Imogen Heap


    Website: http://www.imogenheap.com/

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    Andy Grammer on Songwriting, Fear and Persistence Jul 21, 2021
    Show notes

    This interview with Andy Grammer was recorded live during Ari's book signing event at Barnes & Noble at The Grove in Los Angeles on January 16, 2020. Andy dropped gem after gem after gem for artists, songwriters, and managers on how to approach songwriting, a music career, and just life in general.


    Multi-platinum selling pop artist Andy Grammer is all about inspiring and empowering the world by communicating his truths through his music. Grammer is the first male pop star in a decade since John Mayer to reach the Top 10 at adult pop radio on his first two singles. His discography includes a succession of anthemic pop hits, including "Keep Your Head Up," "Fine By Me," "Honey, I'm Good.," "Good to Be Alive (Hallelujah)," and "Fresh Eyes." His most recent album Naive is home to his latest single, "Don't Give Up On Me," which quickly reached the Top 10 on iTunes and is already certified gold.


    4:34 - Andy's journey from before his first album came out

    7:27 - How long Andy was performing on the Promenade

    11:17 - The importance of giving; it's about the audience

    12:10 - What kept Andy going through the soul-crushing gigs

    14:57 - Was there a shift in perception that enabled Andy to leap to the next stage in his career

    19:12 - How Andy transitioned from playing the Promenade to doing radio tours

    20:52 - Manager as a partner

    24:00 - How to know when you've reached your threshold

    26:57 - Andy's routine that enables him to crush fear regularly; has the fear ever gotten to be so much that he can't handle it?

    30:27 - Does Andy's fear ever prevent him from writing new tracks, especially since he's already written so many hits

    32:07 - How Andy knows if he's written a good song after a session

    35:05 - Andy's co-writing process

    41:29 - When he first went into a top-level writing session; what was that like?

    42:42 - How he remains humble with all of his success

    47:45 - What is branding?

    53:47 - Andy's way of processing songs that he's written

    55:33 - How Andy makes it in the new music business


    Connect with Ari’s Take:


    Website: https://aristake.com

    Academy: https://aristakeacademy.com

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aristake_/

    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@aris.take

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/ArisTake

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/aristake1

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/aristake/


    Connect with Ari Herstand:


    Website: https://ariherstand.com

    Instagram: https://instagram.com/ariherstand

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/ariherstand

    YouTube: https://youtube.com/ariherstand

    Facebook: https://facebook.com/ariherstand


    Connect with Andy Grammer:


    Website: https://andygrammer.com/

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    Euphoria Music Supervisor Jen Malone Gives a Sh*t Jul 14, 2021
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