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    Alternative Health

    The Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide with Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy

    The Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide: Where Therapists Live, Breathe, and Practice as Human Beings It’s time to reimagine therapy and what it means to be a therapist. We are human beings who can now present ourselves as whole people, with authenticity, purpose, and connection. Especially now, when clinicians must develop a personal brand to market their private practices, and are connecting over social media, engaging in social activism, pushing back against mental health stigma, and facing a whole new style of entrepreneurship. To support you as a whole person, a business owner, and a therapist, your hosts, Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy talk about how to approach the role of therapist in the modern age.

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    No Cap: It’s Time to Glow Up Your Teen Therapy Skills Jul 01, 2024
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    No Cap: It’s Time to Glow Up Your Teen Therapy Skills

    Curt and Katie chat about how to work effectively with teen clients. We look at what adults often get wrong about teens as well as how therapists can develop real relationships with their teen clients. We also look at the differences that can show up in how you do therapy with teens.

    Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com!

    In this podcast episode we talk about effective therapy with teenaged clients

    Curt and Katie have both specialized in working with teens at different points in their careers and figured they should share what they’ve learned to support other therapists who’d like to work with teens.

    What do therapists (and caregivers) get wrong about teenagers?

    · You won’t reach teens if you treat them like behavioral problems to solve

    · It is helpful to show teens that they will be listened to, rather than just subject to whatever their parents or caregivers want them to do in therapy

    · Therapists can seem less authentic if they try to be “the cool therapist”

    What is needed in an effective therapeutic alliance with teen therapy clients?

    · Identifying what the teen needs from the therapist (e.g., confidant, older sibling, parental type)

    · Authenticity is key as teens will often see through it if you’re not

    · Defining boundaries of the relationship

    · Looking toward client autonomy

    · Showing stability and constancy

    · Encouraging safety and agency

    · Being a trusted, consistent adult

    What are differences in therapy with teens and adults?

    · Having caregivers involved in schedule and decision-making, having a huge impact on teens

    · Therapy for teens is often a relationship where identity can be tested

    · Therapists can be an outside voice for both teens and adults, but teens may need this more

    · Caregivers are more likely to be a part of treatment for teens

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    More Than Cogs in the Machine: Bringing trauma-informed principles into the workplace Jun 24, 2024
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    More Than Cogs in the Machine: Bringing trauma-informed principles into the workplace

    Curt and Katie chat about trauma-informed workplaces. We explore what a trauma informed workplace is, why it is important to implement, and how best to do so. We also explore some practical challenges to creating a trauma-informed workplace and ideas for how to handle these challenges. This is a continuing education podcourse.

    Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com!

    In this podcast episode we talk about how to create a trauma-informed workplace

    People affected by trauma are expected to perform in the workplace, but often have difficulty with environments that treat them as replaceable. This can lead to employee underperformance, burnout, and turnover in the workforce. Healthy interactions with the workplace can help both the individual and corporate performance. This workshop addresses principles and practices that allow for employers to create a trauma informed workplace.

    What is a trauma-informed workplace?

    · Remembering that all workers are human

    · Collaboration and encouraging autonomy for employees

    · Acknowledging that trauma exists for everyone

    · Trauma is addressed in the workplace (e.g., mitigating secondary or vicarious trauma)

    · 4 R’s of Trauma can give guidance to how to identify and respond to trauma

    · Supportive policies go beyond self-care

    · There is a systemic mechanism to support staff and improve

    · Based in trust and trustworthiness

    What are the risks of not having a trauma-informed workplace?

    · Lower employee productivity, lower quality work

    · Higher levels of burnout, absenteeism, presenteeism

    · Recreating past traumas when we’re not aware of the dynamics in play

    How can therapists create and benefit from a trauma-informed workplace?

    · Create supportive policies and procedures

    · Evaluate how well trauma informed principles are being implemented

    · We discuss an evaluation tool for this purpose

    · CTIPP Toolkit (Campaign for Trauma Informed Practice and Policies)

    · Acknowledge shared humanity

    · Creating connection and collaboration between team members

    · This may be something that needs to be repaired or built within a workplace that has problems

    · Understanding how to build, sustain trust, and effectively take feedback and implement it

    · Transparency and accountability

    What are some challenges in implementing a Trauma-Informed Workplace?

    · Very challenging conversations needing repeated repair

    · Avoiding conversations about trauma

    · Digging deeply into emotional life of employees (i.e., with the potential of HR violations)

    · Practical limitations to what employers can provide to their employees

    · Us versus them mentalities and not seeing opportunities to collaborate

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    Pursuing Happiness as a Therapist: An interview with Stevon Lewis, LMFT Jun 17, 2024
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    Pursuing Happiness as a Therapist: An interview with Stevon Lewis, LMFT

    Curt and Katie interview Stevon Lewis, LMFT, about how he makes his career more sustainable. We look at his current philosophies around low effort, alignment, and fun. We also explore how he was able to initially able temper his expectations, work through misaligned paths, and pivot when needed. Finally, we talk about what it looks like behind the scenes to pursue a number of different revenue and marketing streams.

    Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com!

    In this podcast episode, we talk about how to make a sustainable therapy career

    We invited Stevon Lewis back to talk about creating a sustainable career, even if it means pivoting and rebuilding your career or your brand.

    How can you build a positive and sustainable career as a therapist?

    · It’s important to assess your performance, your level of happiness, etc.

    · Don’t be afraid to pivot

    · Assess if you are working too hard or are misaligned with the work

    · Determine whether your unease is due to lack of skill or misalignment

    · Frame assessment based on practical evaluation versus moving to “I’m a failure”

    When can you actually make choices that serve you better as a therapist?

    · Initial career choices may not be as ideal as one would like

    · It is important to temper your expectations to your current situation

    · Many therapists start in community mental health and may not be able to choose who we see and what we do

    · Be flexible and open to working with less than ideal clients, identify the learning opportunities

    · There is a ramp up and a building up of a caseload and career that takes time

    · Understand that pivoting is part of the journey because we don’t know what we’re good at or what we’re going to like

    How do therapist influencers work effectively?

    · There can be a lot of effort behind the scenes

    · Delegating and contracting out elements of the work can be helpful

    · Efficiency is important to be able to do a bunch of different things to be successful

    · Stevon talks about how he does his “low effort” version of social media posting and interaction

    · Looking at the minimum effort for maximum result

    · Accept doing what you need to do to get the results you would like (not comparing to all others)


    Stay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined #TherapyMovement:

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    On The Move: How Run Walk Talk Therapy Reshapes Mental Health An interview with Sepideh Saremi, LCSW Jun 10, 2024
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    On The Move: How Run Walk Talk Therapy Reshapes Mental Health An interview with Sepideh Saremi, LCSW

    Curt and Katie interview Sepideh Saremi, LCSW, on her therapy model, Run Walk Talk. We look at the practicalities and clinical benefit of including movement (specifically running and walking) in therapy. We talk about the principles of movement as method, movement as modulator, and movement as metaphor.

    Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com!

    In this podcast episode, we explore running in a therapy session

    We invited Sepideh Saremi to talk about how she works as a therapist. She started running and walking with her clients in 2014 and is now teaching other therapists how to effectively bring these types of movement into therapy.

    How does it work to add running or other forms of movement to therapy?

    · Movement as method (nuts and bolts, practicalities)

    · Movement as modulator (addressing the nervous system)

    · Movement as metaphor

    How can a therapist explain running or walk and talk therapy to a client?

    · The purpose of running or walking in therapy is not for the cardio benefits

    · Running and walking in therapy can help clients to connect to self and therapist

    · Run Walk Talk can also make therapy more accessible for some clients

    What are the practicalities and benefits of running in a psychotherapy session?

    · Running at a conversation pace

    · Paying attention to the physical interaction

    · Creating an embodied experience

    · Assessing pace and self-care

    · Mindfulness and awareness

    · How to address confidentiality

    · Using the environment clinically

    · The benefits of being outside

    · The relational elements are important in this type of therapy

    · Handling liability when working with clients outside and movement

    Stay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined #TherapyMovement:

    Our Linktree: https://linktr.ee/therapyreimagined

    Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide Creative Credits:

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    Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/


    What Can Therapists Do About the Loneliness Epidemic? Jun 03, 2024
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    What Can Therapists Do About the Loneliness Epidemic?

    Curt and Katie chat about loneliness as a presenting problem in therapy. We explore the misconceptions about loneliness and how therapists often go to fix the problem rather than understand the problem. We also look at the clinical considerations, including gender differences, the impact of Covid-19, and the changes in how people socialize. Finally, we identify treatment strategies to support individuals struggling with loneliness.

    Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com!

    In this podcast episode we talk about how therapists support clients who are lonely

    There is a loneliness epidemic that is coming into the therapy room a lot and we’ve heard from clients, colleagues, and friends that the first response is “fix it.” We don’t think that’s the strongest move, so we dive into how therapists can more effectively support individuals who are lonely.

    What are misconceptions about loneliness?

    · It is a normal human feeling and doesn’t always need to be fixed

    · Loneliness is not always related to major depression

    · Loneliness is not the same as isolation, nor is it the same as solitude

    What are considerations related to loneliness and socialization?

    · The impact of Covid-19 on individuals and on socialization

    · The changes in how people socialize in the modern age

    · Cognitive distortions when one socializes

    · Attachment wounds and differences in how people relate to others

    · Gender differences in connection and expectations about roles in relationships

    How can a therapist explore with a client their relationship with loneliness?

    · Looking at what people need when feeling loneliness

    · Exploring how understood and seen one feels within their relationships

    · Sorting how one can get their needs met with what is available to them

    What are the practical considerations needed to address loneliness?

    · Identifying ways to connect with others that fits into time and money parameters

    · Going beyond similar interests and how to find people to truly connect with

    · Exploring coping skills, rejection sensitivity, and self-confidence to set one up for success

    · Looking at how to test new experiences, fail and rebound or succeed and build


    Stay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined #TherapyMovement:

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    Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/


    When Doing “No Harm” Isn’t Good Enough: Bringing beneficence to your clients May 27, 2024
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    When Doing “No Harm” Isn’t Good Enough: Bringing beneficence to your clients

    Curt and Katie chat about ethics again. We look at how therapists decide what is beneficial for clients. We also contrast the concept of “beneficence” (doing good) versus “nonmaleficence” (doing no harm). We specifically explore how to identify when something is in the therapist’s interest versus the client’s interest as well as what therapists can do when clients hold harmful, untrue beliefs. This is a law and ethics continuing education podcourse.

    Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com!

    In this podcast episode we talk about how therapists do good, beyond “do no harm”

    Therapist healthcare ethics are often taught from the perspective that the professional’s role is to “do no harm” when providing treatment to clients. Lost in the teachings is that therapists have other obligations to address when providing treatment. This workshop focuses on examples of bringing the principle healthcare ethic of beneficence to therapy to help determine “doing good” for the client’s benefit.

    What is beneficence in the context of psychotherapy?

    · Do what is good for the client and for treatment

    · “For the benefit if the client”

    · Comparing this with the idea of non-maleficence (“do no harm”) which is don’t do bad things, but also try to prevent bad things from happening

    How do therapists decide what is “good” for their client?

    · Assessing the risk of overtaking client autonomy and becoming paternal or parental

    · Balancing all of the core ethical principles and putting them in context for the unique situation for each client

    · Looking at whether therapist self-disclosure is in the benefit of the client

    · Identifying what is therapeutic and beneficial

    · Making sure that therapists move beyond what is comfortable (and not “harmful”) to something that may be less comfortable (and more beneficial)

    · Looking at who therapists choose to work with, balancing therapist self-care and self-protection with what is beneficial to the client and society

    What are specific concerns to consider when deciding whether a therapist is working for the benefit of the client?

    · Therapy dogs (are they certified and registered, is it in the treatment plan)

    · Contact between sessions initiated by the therapist (who is the contact for? What does the treatment model say about this type of contact?)

    · Have a thought process and document that thought process when deciding what to do as a therapist

    What can therapists do when clients hold distorted beliefs?

    · Identify: Do the distorted beliefs that the client holds cause (or could cause) harm?

    · Understand: What laws or ethics are relevant to whether the distorted belief should be addressed?

    · Get client consent (or not) to talk about the distorted belief and potentially change the course of therapy

    · Is it necessary to discuss the belief at this time?

    · What countertransference issues could impact the efficacy of the conversation with the client?

    · Will the conversation be helpful and potentially change the client’s view?

    · How will the conversation change the course of therapy?

    · Does the therapist have appropriate expertise and training to address the distorted belief?


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    Is Seeking an “Abundance Mindset” Toxic? May 20, 2024
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    Is Seeking an “Abundance Mindset” Toxic?

    Curt and Katie chat about abundance and scarcity mindsets, looking at what the research actually says about these often-used terms. We explore the dangers of how the abundance mindset is often weaponized against entrepreneurs (like private practitioners) in how they think and how much they should pay for coaching services. We also look at the role of privilege in how these mindsets are often talked about. Finally, we explore what might be better to focus on instead: practical or growth mindsets as well as wise mind.

    Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com!

    In this podcast episode we talk the dangers of striving for abundance mindset

    We’ve heard a lot of people in a lot of different settings talk about the ideas of abundance and scarcity mindsets. We see some problems in how these concepts are used within popular culture.

    What does the research say about scarcity and abundance mindsets?

    · When you have scarce resources, you will work to protect yourself and avoid death

    · There is research done on actual “scarcity” that is being inaccurately applied to people who do not have scarce resources (like some of the coaches and entrepreneurs who use this term)

    · People who have more resources think more abundantly (the finding is correlational, not directional)

    What are the dangers of the “abundance mindset?”

    · The unrealistic nature of “thinking” your way out of poverty or practical challenges (without the reality of action)

    · The blaming the victim that can happen when someone is having trouble reframing their situation more positively

    · Weaponizing “abundance” to imply that you are sabotaging your practice

    · Using “abundance” as a sales tactic

    What should therapists do instead of “being abundant?”

    · A strategic or problem-solving mindset

    · Learning practical strategies to do the work necessary

    · Allowing time to grow into the vision of your practice

    · Growth versus fixed mindset

    Stay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined #TherapyMovement:

    Our Linktree: https://linktr.ee/therapyreimagined

    Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide Creative Credits:

    Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/

    Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/



    How to Navigate Shifts in the Mental Health Field and Your Career Path: An interview with Dr. Melvin Varghese May 13, 2024
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    How to Navigate Shifts in the Mental Health Field and Your Career Path: An interview with Dr. Melvin Varghese

    Curt and Katie interview Dr. Melvin Varghese about how he’s navigated his career path. We look at a life changing event that helped him to get perspective on what is most important to him. We also explore practicalities of prioritizing personal life as an entrepreneur.

    Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com!

    In this podcast episode, we talk about how to prioritize your personal life while having a successful career

    We invited our friend Melvin Varghese back to the podcast to talk about how he is navigating shifts in the profession and his life.

    What do therapists get wrong when creating their career?

    · Doing too much and not doing things deeply enough

    · Shifting too quickly when things get hard

    · Failing to look at season of life issues when planning your business

    · Having trouble defining success based on what is resonant to oneself

    How can therapists prioritize themselves and sustain a therapy career?

    · Pace yourself based on your own life story, not a mentor’s or the “shoulds” from the profession

    · Be willing to “fail forward”

    · Pushing back against “curated authenticity” and look at how to be real, with boundaries

    · Aligning career with morals and values

    · Focus on “decades over days”

    · Sustainable content creation

    What are Melvin’s predictions about the future of the profession?

    · Authenticity and real conversations will succeed where AI posting will not

    · Finding content platforms where effort compounds over time

    · Discovery platforms leading to relationship-deepening platforms

    · Navigating a lot of tech and insurance companies

    · People have less discretionary money, so diversifying your income is valuable

    Stay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined #TherapyMovement:

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    Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/

    Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/


    Are Therapy and Coaching All That Different? May 06, 2024
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    Are Therapy and Coaching All That Different?

    Curt and Katie chat about the differences between coaching and therapy, for a second time. We look at some common myths (and how coaches continue to share this misinformation). We also look at how therapists can effectively incorporate coaching into their therapy sessions, with client consent. Finally, we discuss the challenges inherent in coaching and in therapy, and why therapists may feel they need to choose one or the other.

    Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com!

    In this podcast episode we talk the differences between coaching and therapy

    We’ve come back around to exploring coaching. We look at the differences, the pros and cons, and what therapists can incorporate into therapy.

    What are the differences between coaching and therapy?

    · There are no regulations for coaching

    · Therapists are limited to providing services where they are licensed or have practicing privileges

    · Coaching is often more directive (but therapy can be directive as well)

    · Coaching has flexibility to work outside of session (although therapists can do coaching calls and more experiential work)

    · Therapy often requires “medical necessity,” and can treat more serious concerns

    · There are sometimes different structures between how therapy and coaching are set up (i.e., coaching has more room for asynchronous courses)

    · There is a false story that therapy always looks at the past or sees clients as broken

    What parts of coaching can therapists incorporate into therapy?

    · Therapists can use a more directive, coaching style, even though not all therapists do

    · Therapists, within a treatment agreement, can (and should) hold clients accountable and have more specific goals

    · Lived experience informing the work

    · Marketing with specificity and focused expertise

    Why do therapists feel they need to choose between therapy and coaching?

    · It is more complicated to provide different services to your clients

    · There is a potential for dual relationships and the rules are different within coaching

    · The need for informed consent can hinder some of the other types of services that fit into coaching

    · Coaching is for the “worried well” whereas therapy can include folks with deeper issues


    Stay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined #TherapyMovement:

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    Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/

    Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/


    Are You Too Burned Out to Work? An ethical assessment of therapist burnout and impairment Apr 29, 2024
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    Are You Too Burned Out to Work? An ethical assessment of therapist burnout and impairment

    Curt and Katie chat about the ethics of working while burned out. We look at what burnout is, how it develops and what the impacts are on clients and treatment outcomes. We also explore individual and systemic strategies to mitigate the risks of burnout. This is a law and ethics continuing education podcourse.

    Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com!

    In this podcast episode we talk about therapist burnout

    So many therapists complain that they are burned out, but then continue to work. Is this ethical? In this continuing education podcourse, we explore what therapist burnout is, how therapists get burned out, potential impacts on the therapeutic work with clients, and when (and whether) it moves into the threshold of unethical behavior. We talk specifically about what makes a therapist impaired and how therapists can assess their own capacity to ethically care for their clients. We also look at how to respond to signs of burnout appropriately. Finally, we dig into systemic concerns that lead to burnout and who really is responsible for a therapist’s burnout and potential impairment.


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