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    The Modern People Leader: Forward-Thinking HR

    Listen to interviews with CHROs, Chief People Officers, and other work experts on how they’re pioneering the way that we work. They share what’s working, what’s not, and how they’ve gotten to where they’re at in their careers.

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    141 - Understanding the EX across 140k employees: Johanna Söderström (EVP, Chief People Officer, Tyson Foods) Nov 20, 2023
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    Johanna Söderström, EVP & Chief People Officer at Tyson Foods, joined us on The Modern People Leader.

    We talked about how she’s gotten a better understanding of the EX across Tyson’s 140k employees, how they've trained up the executive team on digitalization and building a learning organization, and how her non HR experience has shaped her approach as an HR leader.

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    This episode was brought to you by Pyn. Get access to their FREE Employee Journey Designer here.

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    (3:33) Good news stories

    (9:45) Johanna’s story: Born in Helsinki —> having “Sisu” —> handball champion —> Ericsson —> finance & marketing experience —> pivot to HR —> moving to Germany for Dow Chemical —> using the internet for recruiting —> Today

    (22:20) 90k of Tyson Food’s 140k employees are frontline employees

    (24:45) Why we should be jealous she gets to work at Tyson Foods

    (27:31) Understanding the different cohorts of employees that work at Tyson

    (31:08) Running Tyson Food’s first ever engagement survey

    (35:05) More firsts at Tyson Foods

    (38:38) Johanna loves to create, build, & transform

    (40:20) The momentum that has built since beginning their transformation

    (43:00) HR needs to be hungrier for new skills

    (49:17) Her thoughts on what’s to come with AI

    (51:13) Tyson brought in an external expert to train the executive team on Digitalization and becoming a Learning Organization

    (54:13) How her non HR experience has helped shape her approach as an HR leader

    (58:00) Where future people leaders should be investing time to develop themselves

    (1:01:37) The level of stress in society

    (1:04:24) Rapid Fire Questions

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    140 - Designing the Employee Journey & Going from CPO to HR Tech CEO: Joris Luijke (CEO of Pyn | Former CPO @ Typeform) Nov 13, 2023
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    Joris Luijke, CEO at Pyn, joined us on The Modern People Leader.

    We talked about why “Employee Experience Design” has been getting more attention this last decade, how hard it is to be a Chief People Officer right now, and two ways information management is becoming easier to handle.

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    This episode was brought to you by Pyn. Get access to their FREE Employee Journey Designer here.

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    (2:11) Good news stories

    (6:56) Joris is a Chief People Officer turned HR Tech CEO

    (9:37) He didn’t intend on being an entrepreneur

    (12:39) One of his ideas as an HR leader that totally flopped

    (14:43) What Pyn does

    (17:21) Why we should be jealous he gets to work at Pyn

    (20:55) The focus on “Employee Experience Design” is getting way more serious

    (25:34) The advancements of AI in the workplace

    (36:09) How hard it is to be a Chief People Officer right now

    (39:31) The information management is a big challenge for People Leaders

    (42:47) Targeted communications is about sending less communications and not more

    (46:56) Two ways information management is getting a little bit easier

    (50:56) How to selling something like Pyn to your CFO

    (55:33) The Employee Journey Mapper

    (58:46) Rapid Fire Questions

    (1:04:53) A message from Pyn

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    139 - Pat Wadors (Chief People Officer, UKG): Creating a Personal Scorecard, Coining “DIBs”, & The Agile Leader Nov 06, 2023
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    Pat Wadors, Chief People Officer at UKG, joined us on The Modern People Leader.

    She shared the story of coining the term “DIBs”, what’s on her personal scorecard and “Goldilocks Spreadsheet”, and why it’s important to be an “Agile Leader”.

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    This episode was brought to you by Pyn. Get early access to their Employee Journey Designer here.

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    (3:13) Good news stories

    (8:03) Pat’s story

    (11:45) What Pat learned about HR from her uncle

    (15:03) Learning to ask for help & building muscle in areas she didn’t feel as comfortable in

    (16:38) What UKG does and why we should be jealous she gets to work there

    (18:14) The state of the union for HR

    (21:06) How Pat created the B in DIB

    (28:40) Putting the scaffolding around managers and leaders so they can be leaders for all

    (30:38) Why she recommends creating a personal scorecard

    (37:20) What’s on her Goldilock’s Spreadsheet

    (41:00) Pat’s purpose statement

    (45:05) Asking for feedback to “Polish The Apple”

    (46:49) Why it’s important to be an “Agile Leader”

    (52:40) Characteristics of an “Agile Leader”

    (55:51) Rapid fire questions

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    138 - Building culture in a remote-first environment: Vanesa Cotlar (VP People & Culture, PolicyMe) Oct 30, 2023
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    Vanesa Cotlar, VP of People & Culture at PolicyMe, joined us on The Modern People Leader.

    She shared how to get executive buy-in on people team hires you plan to make, what goes into building culture in a remote-first environment, and how to build trust remotely.

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    This episode was brought to you by CandorIQ. Learn more here.

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    (2:25) Good news stories

    (7:52) Vanesa’s career journey

    (12:54) How being a founder has helped her as a People Leader

    (15:26) What PolicyMe does

    (17:25) Employee choice & AI in HR

    (21:12) Experimenting with ChatGPT

    (29:35) What’s keeping her up at night

    (31:05) Getting executive buy-in on hires you plan to make for the people team (see original post)

    (32:35) Her “if I had time, I’d do it” list

    (38:16) Building a good culture in a remote-first environment

    (41:55) The 12 events PolicyMe has per year

    (47:48) The importance of collecting feedback on a regular cadence

    (50:35) Building trust in a remote-first environment

    (56:15) Her advice to the one-person HR teams out there

    (59:30) Rapid fire questions

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    137 - Handling No’s from your CEO & Reminding fellow execs what HR is optimizing for: Melanie Naranjo (VP People, Ethena) Oct 23, 2023
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    Melanie Naranjo, VP of People at Ethena, joined us on The Modern People Leader.

    We talked about how to handle no’s from your CEO, the questions to ask leadership when you’re interviewing for the top HR role, and why you need to remind fellow execs what you’re optimizing for on the people side.

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    This episode was brought to you by People Leader Accelerator. Learn more here.

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    (3:22) Good news stories

    (14:50) Melanie’s story

    (20:38) Melanie was too rigid in her approach early on in her career

    (23:33) CEOs need to invest time into their HR leaders

    (27:05) How to handle no’s from your CEO

    (31:26) Using an agile approach for rolling out manager training

    (33:57) The power dynamics at play between CEOs and the women of color in HR

    (36:50) Remove all assumptions and lead with curiosity

    (39:15) The questions to ask the leadership team when you’re interviewing for the Chief People Officer role

    (43:30) Reminding leadership what you’re optimizing for on the people side

    (47:48) Rapid fire questions

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    136 - Understanding Pain Points & Using Metrics to build credibility as a People Leader: Joanna Kmiec (VP, People & Culture, Elastic Path) Oct 17, 2023
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    Joanna Kmiec, Vice President of People & Culture at Elastic Path, joined us on The Modern People Leader.

    We talked about using metrics to drive your people strategy, understanding the pain points of other execs, and creating an employee experience that allows for flexibility and scale.

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    This episode was brought to you by CandorIQ. Learn more here.

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    (3:03) Good news stories

    (8:00) The two things important to her in her career: thinking strategically & HR being viewed as a partner

    (13:38) What Elastic Path does

    (15:01) Why we should be jealous she gets to work there

    (16:48) State of the union for talent in Canada

    (20:25) Rebuilding trust and doing more with less

    (22:00) You can’t wait to put emphasis on your Employee Experience

    (24:30) Ways people teams can save money and do more with less

    (28:13) Using metrics to drive your people strategy gives you credibility

    (31:43) Asking the “odd question”: Figuring out the pain points of other execs

    (35:00) Having a leadership team first approach

    (37:30) The rest of the C-Suite need to understand the strategic nature of HR

    (42:23) “Full elastic approach”: Remote-first, their asynchronous charter, and having a flexible approach to all of their programs

    (47:55) Rapid fire questions

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    135 - Rivian CPO on scaling culture from 9 to 15,000 employees & changing the face of factory workers: Helen Russell (Chief People Officer, Rivian) Oct 09, 2023
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    Helen Russell, Chief People Officer at Rivian, joined us on The Modern People Leader.

    We talked about scaling the culture as they’ve grown to 15k employees in the last few years, how Rivian is changing the face of what it looks like to be a manufacturing employee, and how they improved decision making throughout the company.

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    This episode was brought to you by People Leader Accelerator. Learn more here.

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    (3:22) Good news stories

    (9:30) Helen’s career journey to becoming Chief People Officer at Rivian: Sonos, Atlassian, Rivian

    (16:38) How she’s approached picking the right role

    (19:57) Her hypothesis on why there’s a shortage of people leaders right now

    (23:43) Why we should be jealous that she gets to work at Rivian

    (27:10) Capturing the essence and scaling what it felt like to work at Rivian in the early days

    (31:00) Their quarterly recharge conversations

    (34:04) Measuring culture at Rivian

    (37:40) The onboarding process at Rivian

    (40:57) Changing the face of what it looks like to be a manufacturing employee

    (50:46) How Rivian involved their frontline employees in their IPO

    (54:48) The difference between scaling a company and operating at scale

    (1:00:53) Spotting which leaders are going to be able to succeed in the next phase of growth

    (1:04:20) How Rivian improved decision making throughout the organization

    (1:12:08) Rapid fire questions

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    134 - How CHROs can align themselves closer to revenue: Jessica Zwaan (Author, Built for People) & Ryan Bonnici (CMO, Gympass) Oct 06, 2023
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    Jessica Zwaan (Author, Built for People) and Ryan Bonnici (CMO, Gympass), joined us on The Modern People Leader.

    We talked about why HR should be considered a revenue generating function, how to align yourself closer to revenue as an HR leader, and why you don’t need to get the metrics perfect for every single people program.

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    (2:17) Good news stories

    (7:14) How Ryan and Jessica became Aussie besties

    (10:15) Ryan’s career journey: flight attendant —> Salesforce —> HubSpot —> CMO at G2 —> CMO at Gympass

    (15:40) Built for People is out

    (22:05) How HR leaders can align themselves closer to revenue

    (29:06) The CHRO role is the hardest role in the C-Suite

    (31:15) HR is a revenue generating function

    (32:32) Looking at things like the CAC to LTV ratio for employees

    (37:06) You don’t need to get the ROI or the metrics perfect

    (41:26) The waterfall style that HR has traditionally operated within

    (47:40) Crawl, walk, run approach to marketing HR programs

    (49:31) Rapid fire questions

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    133 - The 3 qualities of the smartest teams, letting AI replace routine work & fostering collective intelligence: Dr. Vivienne Ming (Professional Mad Scientist) Oct 02, 2023
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    Dr. Vivienne Ming (Professional Mad Scientist), joined us on The Modern People Leader.

    We talked about letting AI replace the routine work, the qualities of the smartest teams, and how to foster collective intelligence.

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    (2:00) Good news stories

    (6:00) Digging under the surface to get to the root of problems

    (20:45) Her career journey as an entrepreneur and scientist

    (33:00) History of AI over the last 25 years

    (41:56) Three definitions of AI

    (48:39) The non routine is what’s left of our jobs after AI

    (56:30) Building AI to augment people

    (58:12) Teaching future generations how to learn

    (1:01:06) What separates the most elite performers from everyone else

    (1:09:54) The 3 qualities of the “smartest teams”

    (1:17:10) Psychological safety isn’t just a squishy idea about not hurting people’s feelings

    (1:23:20) How to foster collective intelligence at your company

    (1:34:45) Identifying pockets of low psychological safety

    (1:43:30) Rapid fire questions

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    132 - Navigating major life & career changes: Alex Seiler (Former GHJ Chief People Officer, ex WeWork & NBC, and Advisor) Sep 25, 2023
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    Alex Seiler (Former GHJ Chief People Officer, ex WeWork & NBC, and Advisor), joined us on The Modern People Leader.

    We talked about navigating major life and career changes, the impact of indecisive leadership on Chief People Officers, and the 3 intangibles he’s looking for in his next CPO role.

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    (2:51) Good news stories

    (9:23) Alex’s career journey

    (12:58) Navigating major life and career changes

    (17:40) Seeking out help for whatever is on the horizon

    (21:40) The indecisiveness amongst leadership teams & the impact that’s having on CPOs

    (24:33) It’s not about winning every battle as a people leader

    (26:18) What’s keeping Alex up at night: AI and DEI

    (29:08) The ‘AI Operations Engineer’ role

    (34:01) Alex’s biggest accomplishments at GHJ

    (35:25) The ‘Team within a Team” concept

    (36:53) What he would have done differently at GHJ

    (38:11) Plotting out his next career move & his career vision board

    (43:18) Rapid fire questions

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