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    The Long and The Short Of It

    What do two coaches on opposite sides of the world actually talk about when they think out loud together? For eight years and 400-plus episodes, that has been the whole of The Long and The Short Of It: a weekly conversation for thoughtful leaders, coaches, and creatives who would rather be useful than loud.

    Pete Shepherd is an Australian leadership coach and the former Head Coach of Seth Godin’s altMBA, who has worked with leaders at Google, Toyota, Woolworths, Kraft Heinz and the Australian Navy. Jen Waldman runs her own studio in New York and has coached performers across much of Broadway. Every Tuesday they take one small, real moment, a difficult conversation, a 3am worry, a question from a client, and turn it into a question or a reframe you can use today.

    The show is about leadership, coaching, creativity, fear, feedback, imposter syndrome, habits, and what it actually means to be human at work. Under twenty minutes. No guests. No ads. No script.

    If a friend sent you here, start anywhere. And come find the Box O’ Goodies, our weekly email, at thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

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    Copyright: © 2018 The Long and The Short Of It

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    180. Balance Mar 08, 2022
    Show notes

    On their fourth try recording a podcast on this topic, Jen and Pete discuss balance, and how it appears in and affects their day-to-day life.

    Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

    • How might a person find the right work-life balance?
    • Why is it important to evaluate your resources?
    • What if you only tried to accomplish in a day what you could recover from that same day?

    To hear all Episodes and read full transcripts visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.

    You can subscribe to our Box o’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos and other interesting things Jen and Pete are noodling on.

    To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

    More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies. A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over.

    Listen to all episodes and read full transcripts at thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Reach us: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com


    179. The Reading is the Work Mar 01, 2022
    Show notes

    Inspired by a recent coaching session, Jen and Pete noodle on how reading, and any other creative activity, is a valuable use of time.

    Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

    • Why might just the act of reading be enough, and valuable?
    • Why is it so difficult to allow oneself the space to spend one's time freely?
    • How might creative endeavors influence the rest of one's life?

    To hear all Episodes and read full transcripts visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.

    You can subscribe to our Box o’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos and other interesting things Jen and Pete are noodling on.

    To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

    More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies. A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over.

    Listen to all episodes and read full transcripts at thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Reach us: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com


    178. The Rules Feb 22, 2022
    Show notes

    Inspired by the mindset class at her studio, Jen asks Pete the question, "Who wrote the rules," and together they noodle on the rules we set for ourselves, and where they come from.

    Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

    • Why do certain rules exist, and who do they serve?
    • What do rules mean to certain types of people?
    • How do values and rules relate to each other?

    To hear all Episodes and read full transcripts visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.

    You can subscribe to our Box o’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos and other interesting things Jen and Pete are noodling on.

    To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

    More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies. A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over.

    Listen to all episodes and read full transcripts at thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Reach us: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com


    177. Swim Squad Feb 15, 2022
    Show notes

    Having recently joined a swim squad, Pete shares what he's learned from swimming in a community, and he and Jen unpack the importance of group learning.

    Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

    • How is learning in a group different from learning individually?
    • How might working in a community help push your individual work and ideas forward?
    • Can a community be made up of just two people, and what defines that communal dynamic?

    To hear all Episodes and read full transcripts visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.

    You can subscribe to our Box o’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos and other interesting things Jen and Pete are noodling on.

    To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

    More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies. A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over.

    Listen to all episodes and read full transcripts at thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Reach us: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com


    176. Hybrid Feb 08, 2022
    Show notes

    Jen, surprised by the hybrid environment that her studio is becoming, asks Pete for his advice on what it takes to build a hybrid work place.

    Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

    • How might one build a successful hybrid environment?
    • What are the leadership skills that it takes to do so?
    • Who might the hybrid environment be more difficult for, the in-person person or the remote person? And how might one address that?

    To hear all Episodes and read full transcripts visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.

    You can subscribe to our Box o’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos and other interesting things Jen and Pete are noodling on.

    To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

    More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies. A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over.

    Listen to all episodes and read full transcripts at thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Reach us: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com


    175. Mood Follows Action Feb 01, 2022
    Show notes

    Inspired by a podcast interview, Pete shares with Jen that mood follows action, and they noodle on how that shows up in their lives, and how that action might be taken.

    Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

    • How might mood be impacted by action?
    • Is inaction an active choice?
    • What are some strategies to start taking action, even when you don't want to?

    To hear all Episodes and read full transcripts visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.

    You can subscribe to our Box o’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos and other interesting things Jen and Pete are noodling on.

    To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

    More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies. A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over.

    Listen to all episodes and read full transcripts at thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Reach us: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com


    174. Timelines Jan 25, 2022
    Show notes

    Inspired by the wisdom of a client, Jen shares the idea with Pete that timelines and deadlines are not the same thing, and they unpack the differences and similarities between the two.

    Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

    • How are timelines and deadlines different from one another?
    • How might one stick to a deadline they set for themselves?
    • If timelines are something we can't control, how do we navigate that?

    To hear all Episodes and read full transcripts visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.

    You can subscribe to our Box o’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos and other interesting things Jen and Pete are noodling on.

    To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

    More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies. A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over.

    Listen to all episodes and read full transcripts at thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Reach us: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com


    173. Who Not How Jan 18, 2022
    Show notes

    Pete found himself being called out this week, and he and Jen share their thoughts and reactions to the ideas in the book Who Not How, which inspired this week's episode.

    Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

    • Why is it important to add people to your team and to work with people that have different strengths?
    • Why might someone want to keep all the tasks of a project to themselves?
    • What are ways in which we can reach out to people and invite them to collaborate?

    To hear all Episodes and read full transcripts visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.

    You can subscribe to our Box o’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos and other interesting things Jen and Pete are noodling on.

    To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

    More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies. A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over.

    Listen to all episodes and read full transcripts at thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Reach us: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com


    172. Teachers Teaching Teachers Jan 11, 2022
    Show notes

    Inspired by a visit from a former teacher of hers, Jen shares her learnings with Pete and together they unpack the cyclical journey of teaching and leading.

    Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

    • Why is it important to lean in to teachable moments?
    • What might be the goals of a good teacher and/or leader?
    • How does a student eventually become the teacher?

    To hear all Episodes and read full transcripts visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.

    You can subscribe to our Box o’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos and other interesting things Jen and Pete are noodling on.

    To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

    More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies. A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over.

    Listen to all episodes and read full transcripts at thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Reach us: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com


    171. 2022 Jan 04, 2022
    Show notes

    As a start to 2022, Pete and Jen outline their processes for reflecting on the past year and planning for the year ahead.

    Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

    • What are some strategies to actively reflect on 2021?
    • How might we collect data from the past year and apply our learning to the year moving forward?
    • What is Jen's word or phrase that she will live by for the coming year? And Pete's?

    To hear all Episodes and read full transcripts visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.

    You can subscribe to our Box o’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos and other interesting things Jen and Pete are noodling on.

    To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

    More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies. A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over.

    Listen to all episodes and read full transcripts at thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Reach us: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com


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