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    The Long and The Short Of It

    What do two coaches on opposite sides of the world actually talk about when they think out loud together? For eight years and 400-plus episodes, that has been the whole of The Long and The Short Of It: a weekly conversation for thoughtful leaders, coaches, and creatives who would rather be useful than loud.

    Pete Shepherd is an Australian leadership coach and the former Head Coach of Seth Godin’s altMBA, who has worked with leaders at Google, Toyota, Woolworths, Kraft Heinz and the Australian Navy. Jen Waldman runs her own studio in New York and has coached performers across much of Broadway. Every Tuesday they take one small, real moment, a difficult conversation, a 3am worry, a question from a client, and turn it into a question or a reframe you can use today.

    The show is about leadership, coaching, creativity, fear, feedback, imposter syndrome, habits, and what it actually means to be human at work. Under twenty minutes. No guests. No ads. No script.

    If a friend sent you here, start anywhere. And come find the Box O’ Goodies, our weekly email, at thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

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    Copyright: © 2018 The Long and The Short Of It

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    Latest Episodes:
    200. Ask Us Anything Jul 26, 2022
    Show notes

    To celebrate Episode 200, Jen and Pete answer brilliant questions from their brilliant listeners.

    Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete answer questions like:

    • When was the last time you changed one of your deeply held beliefs, perhaps even one you'd consider core to your identity? And what was it?
    • If you could live anywhere in the world for one year, where would it be?
    • Dropping the "um's", this is something I struggle with, and you two are phenomenal about it. How did you train yourselves so well?
    • In a parallel universe where you never met, what do you think would be different about your lives now?
    • What is your definition of the word "meta"?
    • How do you define a “creative”? How does that term show up?
    • How do you motivate yourself to get the spark for your work back?
    • How do you stay inspired for new content, week after week? Each episode is so unique, how do you do that?
    • When you realize you've been hiding from something you're afraid of, what strategies do you use to propel yourself toward action?
    • Have you ever had your heart broken?
    • Jen, what is one thing about working on Broadway that you think actors would be surprised to know and/or should know?
    • Pete, when are you coming back to the USA?

    To hear all Episodes and read full transcripts visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.

    You can subscribe to our Box o’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos and other interesting things Jen and Pete are noodling on.

    To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

    More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies. A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over.

    Listen to all episodes and read full transcripts at thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Reach us: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com


    199. Mistakes vs. Failures Jul 19, 2022
    Show notes

    This week, Jen and Pete dive in to a discussion about mistakes and failures, and how we might encounter, approach, and learn from these instances within our lives.

    Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

    • What are some different frames through which to view failure?
    • How might we add some levity into mistake making?
    • How can we lead with grace, and allow those around us to make and learn from their mistakes and/or failures?
    • What is the difference between mistakes and failures for Jen? And for Pete?

    To hear all Episodes and read full transcripts visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.

    You can subscribe to our Box o’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos and other interesting things Jen and Pete are noodling on.

    To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

    More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies. A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over.

    Listen to all episodes and read full transcripts at thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Reach us: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com


    198. Second Drafts Jul 12, 2022
    Show notes

    Jen and Pete broach a topic that they have never talked about before either on-air or off-air, and ask each other the question, how might we approach second drafts?

    Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

    • How might we qualify a second draft, in relation to a shitty first draft?
    • Who is the second draft for?
    • Why is it important to know the audience you're creating for, when looking for feedback on a draft?

    To hear all Episodes and read full transcripts visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.

    You can subscribe to our Box o’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos and other interesting things Jen and Pete are noodling on.

    To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

    More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies. A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over.

    Listen to all episodes and read full transcripts at thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Reach us: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com


    197. Self-Promotion Jul 05, 2022
    Show notes

    This week, Jen brings up an idea that initially elicits a groan from Pete, but they both end up with some aha moments about the (dreaded) topic of self-promotion.

    Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

    • How might self-promotion be reframed?
    • How are self-promotion and idea sharing linked?
    • What are some ways to start a practice of positive self-promotion?

    To hear all Episodes and read full transcripts visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.

    You can subscribe to our Box o’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos and other interesting things Jen and Pete are noodling on.

    To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

    More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies. A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over.

    Listen to all episodes and read full transcripts at thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Reach us: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com


    196. Vujà Dé Jun 28, 2022
    Show notes

    Jen introduces Pete to the idea of vujà dé, and together they dive into what the topic might mean and how we might employ it in our lives.

    Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

    • What is vujà dé?
    • What are the benefits of doing something as if for the first time?
    • What are some strategies with which to start practicing vujà dé?

    To hear all Episodes and read full transcripts visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.

    You can subscribe to our Box o’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos and other interesting things Jen and Pete are noodling on.

    To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

    More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies. A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over.

    Listen to all episodes and read full transcripts at thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Reach us: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com


    195. Forks in the Road Jun 21, 2022
    Show notes

    This week, Jen and Pete thrash about strategies a person might utilize when they are unsure of which strategy to utilize.

    Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

    • What can a person keep in mind when they encounter a fork in the road?
    • Why might making a decision and leaving the fork in the road feel scary?
    • How might a person navigate a decision when both options (or more) are in alignment with where they want to go?

    To hear all Episodes and read full transcripts visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.

    You can subscribe to our Box o’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos and other interesting things Jen and Pete are noodling on.

    To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

    More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies. A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over.

    Listen to all episodes and read full transcripts at thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Reach us: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com


    194. Attitude Jun 14, 2022
    Show notes

    After receiving positive feedback to the idea, Pete and Jen dive in to why, "Attitude is a skill," is such a mic-drop statement.

    Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

    • How might attitude be a skill that can be practiced?
    • Why might it feel scary for a person to make changes to or work on their attitude?
    • What are some strategies for cultivating a positive attitude?

    To hear all Episodes and read full transcripts visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.

    You can subscribe to our Box o’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos and other interesting things Jen and Pete are noodling on.

    To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

    More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies. A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over.

    Listen to all episodes and read full transcripts at thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Reach us: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com


    193. Humility Jun 07, 2022
    Show notes

    An often discussed topic on the podcast, Pete and Jen dive even further into noodling on why humility is a superpower.

    Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

    • Why is having humility so important?
    • How might leaders use humility to better lead?
    • What are some ways to cultivate humility?

    To hear all Episodes and read full transcripts visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.

    You can subscribe to our Box o’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos and other interesting things Jen and Pete are noodling on.

    To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

    More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies. A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over.

    Listen to all episodes and read full transcripts at thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Reach us: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com


    192. More Than You Can Chew May 31, 2022
    Show notes

    Jen and Pete dive in to what happens when you bite off more than you can chew and develop strategies to help while in that situation, as well as how to avoid taking on too much in the first place.

    Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

    • How might a person deflate tension when they have too much to do?
    • Why are we our own worst boss?
    • Why might we be afraid of saying no to an opportunity?

    To hear all Episodes and read full transcripts visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.

    You can subscribe to our Box o’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos and other interesting things Jen and Pete are noodling on.

    To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

    More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies. A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over.

    Listen to all episodes and read full transcripts at thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Reach us: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com


    191. 1% May 24, 2022
    Show notes

    After (re)reading James Clear's Atomic Habits, Pete shares with Jen what he's learned from that book, and together they dive deeper into the idea of getting 1% better at something every single day.

    Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

    • How does compound improvement work?
    • What are the benefits of building skill slowly, as opposed to all at once?
    • What are some strategies to build the habit of improving by 1% each day?

    To hear all Episodes and read full transcripts visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.

    You can subscribe to our Box o’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos and other interesting things Jen and Pete are noodling on.

    To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

    More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies. A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over.

    Listen to all episodes and read full transcripts at thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Reach us: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com


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