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    The Long and The Short Of It

    What do two coaches on opposite sides of the world actually talk about when they think out loud together? For eight years and 400-plus episodes, that has been the whole of The Long and The Short Of It: a weekly conversation for thoughtful leaders, coaches, and creatives who would rather be useful than loud.

    Pete Shepherd is an Australian leadership coach and the former Head Coach of Seth Godin’s altMBA, who has worked with leaders at Google, Toyota, Woolworths, Kraft Heinz and the Australian Navy. Jen Waldman runs her own studio in New York and has coached performers across much of Broadway. Every Tuesday they take one small, real moment, a difficult conversation, a 3am worry, a question from a client, and turn it into a question or a reframe you can use today.

    The show is about leadership, coaching, creativity, fear, feedback, imposter syndrome, habits, and what it actually means to be human at work. Under twenty minutes. No guests. No ads. No script.

    If a friend sent you here, start anywhere. And come find the Box O’ Goodies, our weekly email, at thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

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    230. Coaches Need Coaches Feb 21, 2023
    Show notes

    Being coaches themselves, Pete and Jen dive in to discussion about why even coaches need coaching in order to make progress and get unstuck.

    Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

    • Why do people at the top of their game, like executive leaders or professional athletes, still need coaches?
    • How might a coach move your work forward in a way that you couldn't achieve on your own?
    • How do coaches show up in Pete's life? And Jen's?

    To hear all Episodes and read full transcripts visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.

    You can subscribe to our Box o’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos and other interesting things Jen and Pete are noodling on.

    To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

    More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies. A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over.

    Listen to all episodes and read full transcripts at thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Reach us: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com


    229. Lowering the Bar Feb 14, 2023
    Show notes

    This week, Pete brings Jen the following questions: What might happen when you lower the bar for yourself, and when might it be a good idea to do so?

    Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

    • How might a high expectation of a given situation actually have a negative impact?
    • How do people's definitions of success differ when faced with similar circumstances?
    • What is a practical utopia? And how might we use "practical" as a framework?

    To hear all Episodes and read full transcripts visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.

    You can subscribe to our Box o’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos and other interesting things Jen and Pete are noodling on.

    To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

    More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies. A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over.

    Listen to all episodes and read full transcripts at thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Reach us: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com


    228. The No Club Feb 07, 2023
    Show notes

    This week, Jen and Pete noodle on the benefits of having a group of people in your life who can help you decide to say no to things, and they discuss tools for creating a community for that purpose.

    Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

    • Why might it be difficult to say no to certain opportunities?
    • What is a non-promotable task?
    • How can you create a No Club in your own life?

    To hear all Episodes and read full transcripts visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.

    You can subscribe to our Box o’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos and other interesting things Jen and Pete are noodling on.

    To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

    More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies. A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over.

    Listen to all episodes and read full transcripts at thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Reach us: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com


    227. Hell No? Jan 31, 2023
    Show notes

    This week, Pete and Jen explore the inverse of a concept they both practice by asking the question, what happens when we open ourselves up to more possibilities, even if those possibilities aren't an immediate hell yes?

    Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

    • What is the "Hell yes, or no" concept? And what is the inverse of that?
    • Where might the "Hell no, or yes" idea show up in our lives?
    • How does action create information?

    To hear all Episodes and read full transcripts visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.

    You can subscribe to our Box o’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos and other interesting things Jen and Pete are noodling on.

    To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

    More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies. A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over.

    Listen to all episodes and read full transcripts at thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Reach us: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com


    226. The Perception Paradox Jan 24, 2023
    Show notes

    This week, Pete and Jen discuss the question of, what happens when people experience the exact same thing but perceive it entirely differently?

    Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

    • How do people's lived experiences influence how they might react to something?
    • How do sonder and empathy relate to the concept of the perception paradox?
    • What are specific examples of when Pete has experienced the perception paradox? And Jen?

    To hear all Episodes and read full transcripts visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.

    You can subscribe to our Box o’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos and other interesting things Jen and Pete are noodling on.

    To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

    More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies. A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over.

    Listen to all episodes and read full transcripts at thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Reach us: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com


    225. First Pancakes Jan 17, 2023
    Show notes

    After being mentioned in a podcast by some of her favorite thought leaders, Jen explains her idea of first pancakes, and she and Pete thrash about the relationship between creativity and courage.

    Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

    • What is Jen's first pancake idea, and how does it manifest itself in every day life?
    • Why does it take courage to be creative?
    • Why might the mistakes or failures be necessary for eventual success?

    To hear all Episodes and read full transcripts visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.

    You can subscribe to our Box o’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos and other interesting things Jen and Pete are noodling on.

    To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

    More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies. A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over.

    Listen to all episodes and read full transcripts at thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Reach us: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com


    224. 2023 - Part 2 Jan 10, 2023
    Show notes

    This week, it is Pete's turn to dive into his process of reflecting on 2022 and preparing for 2023, and Jen helps by peppering in some questions to further illuminate his path of thought.

    Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

    • How might a past year review help in preparing for a new year?
    • What four questions are important to ask yourself when deciding on a theme for the coming year?
    • What are Pete's two words for the year, and how did he arrive there?

    To hear all Episodes and read full transcripts visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.

    You can subscribe to our Box o’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos and other interesting things Jen and Pete are noodling on.

    To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

    More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies. A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over.

    Listen to all episodes and read full transcripts at thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Reach us: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com


    223. 2023 - Part 1 Jan 03, 2023
    Show notes

    In Part 1 of this series to begin 2023, Jen and Pete talk about how they might reflect on the year past and how they might plan for the future year(s), and discuss possible tactics that help them accomplish those tasks.

    Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

    • How might a five-year plan influence goal-setting for the current year?
    • How is goal setting related to a recognition of values?
    • What is Jen's sentence for the year, and how did she arrive there?

    To hear all Episodes and read full transcripts visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.

    You can subscribe to our Box o’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos and other interesting things Jen and Pete are noodling on.

    To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

    More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies. A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over.

    Listen to all episodes and read full transcripts at thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Reach us: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com


    221. Favo(u)rite Things: 2022 Dec 27, 2022
    Show notes

    In their annual tradition, Jen and Pete ping pong back and forth while discussing their very favorite things from the past year, as we say goodbye to 2022.

    Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about their favorite:

    • Non-Fiction book.
    • Fiction book.
    • TLATSOI podcast episode.
    • Non-TLATSOI podcast episode.
    • Documentary/Film/TV show.
    • Aha moment.
    • Home-cooked meal.
    • Funny video.

    To hear all Episodes and read full transcripts visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.

    You can subscribe to our Box o’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos and other interesting things Jen and Pete are noodling on.

    To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

    More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies. A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over.

    Listen to all episodes and read full transcripts at thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Reach us: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com


    221. Freudenfreude Dec 20, 2022
    Show notes

    This week, Jen introduces Pete to the word "freudenfreude", and together they happily discuss what the term means to them and how it might show up in their lives.

    Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

    • What does freudenfreude even mean?
    • What are some tactics we can use to cultivate freudenfreude?
    • How does freudenfreude act as motivation for Jen and Pete in their careers and personal lives?

    To hear all Episodes and read full transcripts visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.

    You can subscribe to our Box o’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos and other interesting things Jen and Pete are noodling on.

    To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

    More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies. A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over.

    Listen to all episodes and read full transcripts at thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Reach us: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com


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