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    The Julia La Roche Show

    Julia La Roche brings her listeners in-depth conversations with some of the top CEOs, investors, founders, academics, and rising stars in business. Guests on “The Julia La Roche Show” have included Bill Ackman, Ray Dalio, Marc Benioff, Kyle Bass, Hugh Hendry, Nassim Taleb, Nouriel Roubini, David Friedberg, Anthony Scaramucci, Scott Galloway, Brent Johnson, Jim Rickards, Danielle DiMartino Booth, Carol Roth, Neil Howe, Jim Rogers, Jim Bianco, Josh Brown, and many more. Julia always makes the show about the guest, never the host. She speaks less and listens more. She always does her homework.

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    #193 'The Bulls Are No Longer In Charge' — Tom McClellan On What The Market Is Signaling Right Now Aug 29, 2024
    Show notes

    ✨ This episode is sponsored by Public.com. Lock in your 6.9% yield: https://public.com/julia ✨


    Tom McClellan, editor of The McClellan Market Report, and a prominent figure in the field of stock market analysis and technical analysis, joins Julia La Roche on episode 193 to share his views on the economy and markets in a presentation of charts.


    Tom is the son of Sherman and Marian McClellan, who are recognized for creating the McClellan Oscillator and Summation Index in 1969. Tom McClellan has done extensive analytical spreadsheet development for the stock and commodities markets, including the synthesizing of the four-year Presidential Cycle Pattern. He is a graduate of the U.S. Military Academy at West Point and served as an Army helicopter pilot for 11 years.


    **DISCLOSURE** Paid endorsement for Public Investing, Inc. Not investment advice. All investing involves the risk of loss, including loss of principal. Brokerage services for US Listed and registered securities, options and Bonds in a self-directed brokerage account are offered by Public Investing. ETFs, options and Bonds are available to US members only. *A Bond Account is a self-directed brokerage account with Public Investing, member FINRA/SIPC. Deposits into this account are used to purchase 10 fractional investment-grade and high-yield bonds. The 6.9% yield is the average annualized yield to maturity (YTM) across all ten bonds in the Bond Account, before fees, as of 8/23/2024. A bond’s yield is a function of its market price, which can fluctuate, and a bond’s YTM is “locked in” when the bond is purchased. Your yield at time of purchase may be different from the yield shown here. The “locked in” YTM is not guaranteed; you may receive less than the YTM of the bonds in the Bond Account if you sell any of the bonds before maturity, or if the issuer calls or defaults on the bond. While corporate bond yields should fall in reaction to a Federal Reserve rate cut, we cannot know whether that will be true of the bonds in the Bond Account, how quickly bond yields will respond, or how much they will decline. Public Investing charges a markup on each bond trade. Bond Accounts are not recommendations of individual bonds or default allocations. The bonds in the Bond Account have not been selected based on your needs or risk profile. Fractional Bonds also carry risks including liquidity risk, interest rate risk, credit risk, inflation risk, and potential tax liabilities. Read more about the risks associated with fixed income and fractional bonds and learn more about the Bond Account at https://public.com/disclosures/bond-account.


    Lock in your 6.9% yield: https://public.com/julia


    Timestamps:

    0:00 Welcome back Tom

    1:00 Where we are today in the markets

    2:00 McClellan Oscillator showing the bulls are no longer in control

    6:30 Presidential Cycle Pattern

    10:50 Liquidity

    12:40 Gold

    20:29 Japanese Yen

    22:00 Mexican Peso

    23:25 Gold

    25:25 Dollar

    31:40 McClellan Oscillator explained, signaling an overbought and bearish condition in the markets

    33:16 Are recession signals flashing in the market?

    36:00 Demographics

    38:27 Market timing

    40:41 Federal Reserve is 13 months overdue for cutting

    43:00 Presidential Cycle

    46:29 Parting thoughts


    Links:

    https://www.mcoscillator.com/

    https://twitter.com/McClellanOsc


    #192 Dr. Lacy Hunt On What The Huge Downward Revision In The Jobs Data Means For The Economy Aug 27, 2024
    Show notes

    Legendary economist Dr. Lacy Hunt, EVP and Chief Economist of Hoisington Investment Management Company, joins Julia La Roche on episode 192 for a wide-ranging discussion on the deteriorating economy.

    In this episode, Dr. Hunt explains that non-farm payrolls overshot by five standard errors, making it the worst miss since a 9 standard one for 2009, during the GFC recession, and marking another bureaucratic failure. According to Dr. Hunt, the reported overshoot of 818,000 was based on an internal seasonally adjusted series, but based on the nonseasonal adjusted data, the overshoot was actually 915,000. Dr. Hunt explains that the non-farm job miss means that productivity will be revised up while unit labor costs will be revised down. Personal income and Gross Domestic Income will be revised downward, and the personal saving rate will be reduced from its already very depressed level of 3.5%.


    ✨ This episode is sponsored by Public.com ✨


    Paid endorsement for Public Investing, Inc. Not investment advice. All investing involves the risk of loss, including loss of principal. Brokerage services for US Listed and registered securities, options and Bonds in a self-directed brokerage account are offered by Public Investing. ETFs, options and Bonds are available to US members only.


    *A Bond Account is a self-directed brokerage account with Public Investing, member FINRA/SIPC. Deposits into this account are used to purchase 10 fractional investment-grade and high-yield bonds. The 6.9% yield is the average annualized yield to maturity (YTM) across all ten bonds in the Bond Account, before fees, as of 8/23/2024. A bond’s yield is a function of its market price, which can fluctuate, and a bond’s YTM is “locked in” when the bond is purchased. Your yield at time of purchase may be different from the yield shown here. The “locked in” YTM is not guaranteed; you may receive less than the YTM of the bonds in the Bond Account if you sell any of the bonds before maturity, or if the issuer calls or defaults on the bond. While corporate bond yields should fall in reaction to a Federal Reserve rate cut, we cannot know whether that will be true of the bonds in the Bond Account, how quickly bond yields will respond, or how much they will decline. Public Investing charges a markup on each bond trade. Bond Accounts are not recommendations of individual bonds or default allocations. The bonds in the Bond Account have not been selected based on your needs or risk profile. Fractional Bonds also carry risks including liquidity risk, interest rate risk, credit risk, inflation risk, and potential tax liabilities. Read more about the risks associated with fixed income and fractional bonds and learn more about the Bond Account at https://public.com/disclosures/bond-account.


    ✨ Lock in your 6.9% yield: https://public.com/julia ✨


    Timestamps:

    0:00 Welcome Dr. Lacy Hunt

    1:16 Macro picture

    3:37 Downward revision in non-farm payrolls is significant

    5:45 The 818,000 error is actually 915,000, according to Dr. Hunt's model

    9:00 The economy is deteriorating

    15:24 Net national saving shows we have a problem

    21:40 The seriousness of negative net national savings

    25:00 Decline in the standard of living

    34:50 Possible solutions, shared sacrifice

    40:00 Fiscal dominance is a very real possibility

    45:40 Fed is behind the curve

    47:37 Where are we in the economic lifecycle

    49:44 The global economy


    #191 Ted Oakley On Deep Market Selloffs: 'If You Don't Have Any Liquidity, It's Not An Opportunity For You' Aug 15, 2024
    Show notes

    Ted Oakley, Managing Partner and Founder of Oxbow Advisors, joins Julia La Roche on episode 191 to discuss the economy and markets.


    With more than forty years of experience in advising high-net-worth clients in the investment industry, Oakley implements the firm’s proprietary investment strategies and the “Oxbow Principles” to provide a unique investment perspective.


    He is a frequent guest on FOX Business News, Bloomberg Radio, KITCO News, Cheddar TV, Yahoo Finance, and many more. Oakley is a Chartered Financial Analyst (CFA) and a Certified Financial Planner (CFP). He is a member of the Austin Society of Financial Analysts. He is also a Partner of Herndon Plant Oakley Ltd., an investment company. He is a Board Member of Texas State Aquarium, American Bank, and American Bank Holding Company. Mr. Oakley is a United States Army Veteran. Oakley began his career in Dallas, Texas, over 35 years ago. He is the author of nine books: You Sold Your Company, $20 Million and Broke, Rich Kids Broke Kids – The Failure of Traditional Estate Planning, Crazy Time – Surviving the First 12 Months after Selling Your Company, Wall Street Lies, Danger Time, My Story, The Psychology of Staying Rich, and Your Money Mentality. Oakley’s primary philanthropic interest is helping children. He is Chairman Emeritus and Founder of the Foster Angels of South Texas, the largest foster child foundation in South Texas, as well as Chairman Emeritus and Founder of Austin, Texas-based Foster Angels of Central Texas. Also, President and Founder of Advocates for Foster Children Foundation.


    https://oxbowadvisors.com/


    00:00 Introduction and welcome Ted Oakley

    1:31 Macro picture, a slow disintegration

    3:06 Federal Reserve

    5:30 State of the Middle Class

    7:00 A September rate cut?

    08:32 Conversations with clients about the economy

    11:31 The average person's exposure to stocks is too high, building balanced portfolios

    15:30 Similarities/differences between 2000 and today

    17:40 The evolution of the market and rise of passive investing

    19:30 Cash position

    21:20 10-Year Treasury

    23:48 Opportunities — cutting back on tech stocks, investing in pharmaceuticals

    25:20 Gold

    27:20 When to sell your winners

    31:25 Staying rich with a balanced portfolio

    33:50 Second, third generation wealth

    39:40 Best and worst years personally


    #190 Brian Wesbury: 'The Morphine Is Wearing Off' And We're Headed For Recession And A Market Correction Aug 13, 2024
    Show notes

    Brian Wesbury, Chief Economist at First Trust Advisors LP, joins Julia La Roche episode 190 to discuss the macro picture and why the economy is likely headed toward recession. He also thinks this overvalued stock market could see a 15-20% correction.


    Links:

    website: https://www.ftportfolios.com/

    blog: https://www.ftportfolios.com/retail/blogs/Economics/index.aspx

    X: https://x.com/wesbury


    0:00 Welcome Brian Wesbury

    1:09 Macro view

    3:30 Why we're going to have a recession

    4:25 Health of the economy

    8:15 Savings rate

    10:45 Bifurcated economy

    12:30 Housing

    15:45 Federal Reserve have separated the money supply from interest rates

    19:60 Burns or Volcker

    21:20 Cut because of politics

    25:20 Debt situation

    30:40 Bitcoin

    33:44 State-run capitalism

    37:00 Markets

    40:00 Energy

    42:50 Presidential election

    47:20 Parting thoughts



    #189 Rick Rule On Paying Attention To The Warning Signs In The Economy And Insuring Against Collective Stupidity Aug 08, 2024
    Show notes

    Investor and speculator Rick Rule, president and CEO of Rule Investment Media and co-founder of Battle Bank, returns to the show for episode 189, featuring a discussion on the macro environment, warning signs, and investment opportunities.


    Link to Rick's private placements bootcamp: https://events.ringcentral.com/events/rick-rule-s-virtual-private-placement-bootcamp?utm_source=aff&utm_campaign=14


    00:00 Introduction and welcome back Rick Rule

    01:30 Macro picture, wake-up call and lessons from the Japanese carry trade unwind

    3:53 Be prepared for these contingencies

    05:50 Two risks, one opportunity

    09:50 Entitlements

    12:15 Opportunity in gold

    15:20 Taxes and inflation

    19:39 The Federal Reserve and interest rates

    23:19 Manipulation of interest rates

    30:10 Bond market

    35:05 Upcoming election

    40:58 Parting thoughts


    #188 Chris Whalen On The Difficult Economic Environment Ahead Aug 06, 2024
    Show notes

    Investment banker and author Chris Whalen, chairman of Whalen Global Advisors, who is also the author of The Institutional Risk Analyst, returns to The Julia La Roche Show for episode 188 to discuss the economy.


    This episode was recorded on Friday, Aug. 2.


    Links:

    Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/rcwhalen

    Website: https://www.rcwhalen.com/

    The Institutional Risk Analyst: https://www.theinstitutionalriskanalyst.com/

    Stanley Middleman book: https://www.amazon.com/Seeing-Around-Corners-Achieving-Business/dp/B0D5PTSJVC/


    Timestamps:

    00:00 Welcome back Chris Whalen

    01:00 Big picture view and the troublesome rate of change

    2:30 10-year yield

    04:15 An inflection point

    06:15 Risks in corporate credit and commercial real estate

    09:15 A difficult economic environment ahead

    12:50 Upcoming election

    15:00 Why the Fed won't cut before the election

    16:40 Opportunities

    18:40 Fannie and Freddie

    23:08 Velocity of the change

    24:00 Consumers

    26:16 Opportunities for Lenders

    28:00 Inflation problem


    #187 Michael Pento: A Triumvirate Of Bubbles Is Creating A Dangerous Situation For Markets And The Economy Jul 30, 2024
    Show notes

    Michael Pento, president and founder of Pento Portfolio Strategies (PPS), joins Julia La Roche on episode 187 to discuss a dangerous triumvirate of bubbles in the economy: a real estate bubble, an equity bubble, and a credit bubble. These bubbles have been fueled by 20 years of a negative real Fed funds rate. Pento predicts that these bubbles will burst. He believes that the current situation is very dangerous and could result in a stagflationary environment. Michael also discusses inflation and the erosion of the middle class and the negative implications for the economy.


    Links:

    https://pentoport.com/

    https://twitter.com/michaelpento


    0:00 Welcome back Michael Pento

    1:11 Macro view, most salient chart

    1:55 A triumvirate of dangerous bubbles

    4:09 Bubbles bursting

    7:14 The market has already priced in rate cuts

    9:39 Most dangerous time in the markets?

    11:10 Where would we be if the free market could exist?

    13:19 Bifurcation of the economy

    19:44 America is an insolvent nation

    21:30 Headed for stagflation

    23:12 Election

    24:29 Investing

    27:50 Gold

    28:30 Inflation

    30:00 Erosion of the middle class

    35:58 What difference would a Fed cut even make?

    34:55 US dollar

    41:20 Gold is not an investment

    43:30 Any hope?



    #186 David Woo, Economist Who Nailed 2016 And 2020 Election Outcomes, Explains Why The Market Has The Trump Trades Wrong Jul 23, 2024
    Show notes

    Macro trends blogger and economist David Woo @DavidWooUnbound, CEO of David Woo Unbound, a global forum devoted to the promotion of fact-based debates about markets, politics, and economics, joins Julia La Roche on episode 186 for a wide-ranging conversation on economics and politics, including the attempted assassination on former President Trump and why the market has the so-called Trump trades all wrong.


    This episode was recorded on Friday, July 19.


    Woo, the former head of Global Interest Rates, Foreign Exchange, Emerging Markets Fixed Income Strategy & Economics Research at Bank of America, is known for some of his bold and contrarian calls, including Trump winning the presidential race in 2016 (https://www.cnbc.com/2016/12/08/bofaml-analyst-got-ovation-from-co-workers-the-morning-after-election.html), and that the 2020 US presidential election would be much closer than expected and the results contested (https://www.afr.com/policy/economy/the-dangerous-groupthink-stalking-wall-street-20210909-p58q48).



    Links:

    Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@DavidWooUnbound

    Website: https://www.davidwoounbound.com/

    Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/Davidwoounbound


    Timestamps:


    00:00 Introduction and welcome David Woo

    01:25 Big picture macro view

    03:00 Geopolitical update

    04:10 Trump trades

    06:53 Election is not over yet

    08:01 Assassination attempt and the risk of another attempt

    11:15 JD Vance

    15:20 Finding a replacement to Biden

    18:45 2025 will have nothing to do with 2017

    22:44 Challenges in financing tax cuts, tariffs, and potential for a global trade war

    25:50 Collecting taxes on big tech companies doing business outside the US would be bearish for stocks

    28:00 Trump will face a massive budget deficit and why he's not that bullish for bitcoin

    28:50 Trump 1.0 vs. Trump 2.0 economy

    30:30 If Trump wins, he'll inherit a huge mess from Biden

    35:41 Immigration

    40:31 The ultimate Trump trades are defensive trades

    44:30 Betting on a recession

    50:37 Generative AI is a bubble that will trigger a recession

    56:55 Parting thoughts


    #185 Jim Rickards: We're Probably Already In A Civil War Jul 20, 2024
    Show notes

    Jim Rickards returns to the podcast for episode 185 to discuss the macro view and political turmoil in the U.S., including the attempted assassination of former President Trump. This episode was recorded on July 18.

    Rickards is a New York Times bestselling author of Currency Wars: The Making of the Next Global Crisis and several other best-sellers, including The New Great Depression, Aftermath, The Road to Ruin, Death of Money, The New Case for Gold, and his newest book Sold Out: How Broken Supply Chains, Surging Inflation, and Political Instability Will Sink the Global Economy.

    An investment advisor, lawyer, inventor, and economist, Rickards has held senior positions at Citibank, Long-Term Capital Management, and Caxton Associates. He is also the Editor of Strategic Intelligence, a widely-read financial newsletter.


    Links: http://www.jamesrickardsproject.com/

    https://twitter.com/JamesGRickards


    Timestamps:

    00:00 Introduction and overview

    05:46 The current political landscape and global events

    16:49 Trump's path to victory

    22:27 Internal dynamics within the Democratic Party

    26:26 Discussions of a virtual roll call for Biden's nomination

    31:03 Biden withdrawing and Harris becoming the nominee

    35:11 The landmine of Congress certification in 2025

    50:47 The path towards a recession

    56:34 The stock market bubble and concentration risk

    59:33 AI


    #184 Professor Steve Hanke, Who Nailed The 9% Inflation Call, Sees It Falling To 2.5%-3% By Year-End And A Recession On The Way Jul 18, 2024
    Show notes

    Steve H. Hanke, professor of applied economics at Johns Hopkins University and the founder and co-director of the Institute for Applied Economics, Global Health, and the Study of Business Enterprise, joins Julia La Roche on episode 81 for a wide-ranging conversation on the economy.


    Three years ago, using the quantity theory of money — which links asset prices, economic activity and inflation to changes in the money supply—Professor Hanke accurately predicted that inflation would be persistent and rise to the highest levels in a generation between 6 to 9%. Inflation topped out at 9.1%. And he expects inflation will fall to his expected range of 2.5-3% by the end of the year. He also expects that we'll enter a recession later this year or early next year.



    Twitter/X: https://x.com/steve_hanke


    Timestamps:


    00:00 Introduction and welcome Professor Hanke

    01:05 Big picture, macro view, Quantity Theory of Money

    06:20 Inflation headed to 2.5-3% zone by year-end, sees recession ahead

    07:40 Grading the Federal Reserve's policies, they get an 'F'

    12:40 How the money supply works

    16:21 Inflation below 2%?

    17:30 Debt and deficit

    21:52 Need for a Constitutional amendment to control government spending

    23:48 End game if we don't address the debt situation

    24:44 A fiscal illusion


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