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Interwoven Rollups with Stan Liu & Ezaan “Zon” Mangalji of Initia May 22, 2024

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Join us in this episode where we discover how Initia's vertically integrated tech stack seamlessly connects their L1s with application-specific L2 chains, enabling efficient inter-chain communication and solving the traditional fragmentation of multichain systems. We also explore the variety of development tools available (EVM, MoveVM & WasmVM), which simplify app deployment and significantly reduce the complexity for developers.
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TOPICS
00:00:00 Introduction
00:08:36 Appchains Debate
00:14:35 Tackling Fragmentation
00:17:31 Building on Initia
00:25:05 Inside L2s
00:27:13 Role of Sequencers
00:29:26 Scaling Limits
00:30:33 L1s Services
00:36:13 IBC Implementation
00:37:57 Custom Modules
00:40:06 OPinit Stack
00:41:59 VMs Integration
00:48:03 RaaS Market Competition
00:52:59 Testnet Opportunities

LINKS
Initia's Website

GUESTS
Stan on Twitter
Zon on Twitter

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MONOLITHIC VS APPCHAINS with Eric Zhang & Brian Breslow of DoraHacks May 15, 2024

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Join us in this episode as we explore how DoraHacks advances the hacker movement. Learn about Dora Factory's innovative public good staking and decentralized funding infrastructures. We also discuss Dora Vota's role in enabling fair and private community governance through Anonymous Minimal Anti-Collusion Infrastructure (aMACI). Additionally, we deep dive into the appchain thesis and how projects benefit from running their own sovereign chains over building on monolithic L1s.

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TOPICS
00:00:00 Introduction
00:02:22 DoraHacks Overview
00:10:51 Appchain Thesis
00:20:11 L2s Thesis
00:30:00 Cosmos SDK Evolution
00:37:34 Solana Appchain Thesis
00:45:58 Dora Factory & Dora Vota
00:52:08 MACI & aMACI Voting
01:03:21 DoraHacks Roadmap

LINKS
DoraHacks
Minimal Anti-Collusion Infrastructure
Vota: Special Purpose Blockchain for Voting
What Will aMACI Unlock?
Inevitability of UNIchain

GUESTS
Eric Zhang on Twitter
Brian Breslow on Twitter

SOCIAL MEDIA
Sebastien Couture on Twitter
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The AI portfolio manager with Daniel Machlup of FortyTwo May 07, 2024

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Join us as we explore the innovative integration of AI in DeFi with Daniel Machlup from FortyTwo. FortyTwo is building the interface layer for cross-chain DeFi, tackling a critical challenge in the rapidly growing multi-chain ecosystem. The goal is simple, make cross-chain user experience easy for both users and protocols. Tune in to see how AI is reshaping crypto asset management, making it as simple as expressing your intention.

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TOPICS
00:00:00 Introduction
00:03:25 Building on Cosmos
00:05:45 Cosmos SDK Advantages
00:08:33 Exploring FortyTwo
00:16:03 Infrastructure Providers
00:17:38 Solver Marketplace
00:38:31 Architecture
00:39:53 Wallet UX Enhancements
00:42:04 Osmosis Smart Accounts
00:44:14 Beta Launch Overview

LINKS
FortyTwo

GUESTS
Daniel Machlup on Twitter

SOCIAL MEDIA
Sebastien Couture on Twitter
The Interop on Twitter

DeFi Risk Modelling & Management with Marijo Radman and Benedikt Eikmanns of Alterscope Apr 30, 2024

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Join us as we delve into the complexities of risk management in decentralized finance (DeFi), where Alterscope pioneers with its risk ZK coprocessor and zero-knowledge proof technology to tackle unique challenges such as liquidity and protocol risks. Uncover how Alterscope's advanced tools not only quantify new kinds of risks but also offer a dynamic platform for effectively modeling and managing them, including a detailed look at the crucial data sets used for assessing oracle risks to ensure DeFi's data reliability.

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TOPICS
00:00:00 Introduction
00:04:16 Crypto Risk Management
00:10:13 Pricing Web3 Risk
00:13:22 TradiFi vs DeFi Risk Management
00:15:16 Understanding Alterscope
00:21:42 Oracle Risks
00:27:26 Risk Marketplace Participants
00:37:41 Enhancing DeFi Yield Strategies
00:40:53 Restaking
00:46:08 Staking Providers Risks
00:51:06 Impact on Future of DeFi
00:55:30 Product Roadmap

LINKS
Alterscope

GUESTS
Marijo on Twitter
Benedikt on Twitter

SOCIAL MEDIA
Sebastien Couture
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Decentralized Storage for IBC Chains with Patrick Dunlop & Marston Connell of Jackal Apr 25, 2024

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Discover Jackal Protocol in this episode as we delve into its decentralized storage solution, enhancing blockchain interoperability and real-time data access through its Cosmos Layer 1 platform. Learn how Jackal ensures data reliability with advanced redundancy and frequent verification, supporting a wide array of Web3 applications.

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TOPICS
00:00:00 Introduction
00:06:58 Decentralised storage
00:13:45 DePIN is a hot topic
00:16:06 Jackal - how it works
00:25:47 Role of the Cosmos SDK module
00:27:09 EVM Contracts
00:28:37 Jackal Proof-of-Persistence (JPOP)
00:41:13 Most exciting use cases
00:46:44 Tokenomics & Economics of Perpetual Storage
00:57:51 Interoperability & IBC

LINKS
Jackal Protocol
Jackal Labs
Jackal Proof-of-Persistence (JPOP)

GUESTS
Patrick on Twitter
Marston on Twitter

SOCIAL MEDIA
Sebastien Couture
The Interop

ZK Proof Aggregation with Garvit Goel of Electron Labs Apr 12, 2024

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Electron Labs aggregates zero-knowledge proofs across protocols into a single superproof, which is then verified on Ethereum. Thanks to the use of recursive ZK proofs, this collective approach lowers verification costs to less than 1% of current rates. This is a huge unlock for applications leveraging ZK: Privacy, micro rollups, DA bridges, IBC, and more.

TOPICS
00:00:00 Introduction
00:02:56 Cost of ZK proof verification
00:07:10 ZK proofs & Rollups
00:14:36 ZK light client
00:16:52 Superproofs
00:22:28 Electron trust assumptions
00:24:14 Electron's Architecture
00:31:27 Challenges
00:34:38 Electron SDK
00:44:00 Interoperability and IBC
00:48:43 Union & Polymer approach
00:52:55 ZK Proof endgame
LINKS
Electron Labs
Electron Labs on Twitter

GUESTS
Garvit on Twitter

SOCIAL MEDIA
Sebastien Couture on Twitter
The Interop on Twitter

Securing Cosmos Chains with Celestia DA - Jack Zampolin of Rollchains & Strangelove Apr 02, 2024

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Rollchains introduce new ways to build, maintain and scale Cosmos chains. New and existing Cosmos SDK chains can enable the Rollchains module to post block data to Celestia. Built with POA chains in mind, Rollchains promises to reduce the cost of securing chains while maintaining a high Nakamoto coefficient, potentially transforming the tokenomics of chains that struggle to cover the inflationary cost of maintaining a validator set.

TOPICS
00:00:00 Introduction
00:02:46 Blockchain gaming
00:05:41 Cosmos design philosophy
00:12:15 Cosmos Alignment
00:17:58 Why build a rollchain
00:25:37 IBC & interoperability
00:30:34 Rollchain Cosmos SDK module
00:37:27 Rollchain DA support
00:39:12 Roll Apps Vs. Rollchains
00:41:41 Working with Ethos
00:47:06 Long-term future of Ethereum
00:48:58 Thoughts on Movement
00:53:18 Polymer and Union
00:54:16 Skip: Unsung Heroes of Cosmos

GUESTS
Jack on Twitter

LINKS
Rollchains
Strangelove

SOCIAL MEDIA
Sebastien Couture
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The Future of DAO Governance with Nicolas Biagosch of Q Protocol Mar 27, 2024

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Q protocol is a decentralized governance layer for Web3 that allows developers to build organizational constitutions that are enforced by smart contracts and include off-chain avenues for resolving disputes the code can't deal with. Built as a fully EVM-compatible Layer 1 for maximum security, the protocol is live with a full set of infra and applications supporting the ecosystem. It prevents governance exploits and reduces legal and regulatory risks associated with centralized decision making.

TOPICS
00:00:00 Introduction
00:06:52 Governance by code
00:10:44 Practical cases where DAO governance has failed
00:19:30 What is Q and how does it make a difference
00:22:58 Beyond Code is law
00:27:15 The Q Consititution
00:34:41 Stakeholders in the Q blockchain
00:37:21 The role of the token holders
00:40:57 Difference between validators and root nodes
00:45:29 Expert panels and their roles
00:47:58 Q Token holders' competence to vote
00:49:52 The practical steps in this mechanism
00:55:25 Do you need to build your DAO on Q
00:57:16 Integration with Q
00:59:53 Network stakes
01:02:38 The worrying US tax system
01:05:20 Discussion on decentralised AI
01:08:02 DeFi is going nowhere
01:12:47 Learn more about Q

GUESTS
Nicolas on Twitter

LINKS
Q Whitepaper

SOCIAL MEDIA
Sebastien Couture
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Cosmos Hub ICS Security Marketplace with Jehan Tremback of Informal Systems Mar 18, 2024

Show notes

Informal Systems is a Cosmos contributor that works on the Cosmos Hub, which is the first blockchain in the Interchain. The Cosmos Hub is one of thousands of blockchains that will eventually make up the Cosmos Network. The Hub's primary token is ATOM, but it will support many other tokens in the future. Interchain Security is one of the main services the Cosmos Hub provides. It enables other blockchains to be secured through Proof-of-Stake (PoS) by the ATOM token, which holds one of the largest market capitalizations in the interchain ecosystem.

TOPICS

00:00:00 - Introduction

00:02:20 - 5th anniversary of the hub

00:04:13 - Shift in the vision of Cosmos SDK

00:07:59 - The role of a Cosmos Hub Lead

00:12:44 - Business development and its role under Informal Systems

00:19:32 - Shared security on the hub - Interchain Security

00:26:19 - The shift in vision

00:31:20 - The subset problem

00:38:41 - The old way vs the new

00:42:15 - The babylon partnership - additional security

00:48:20 - How the hub competes in the landscape

00:50:21 - Ethos and what they're building

00:53:24 - Cosmos Alignment and how it's perceived

00:55:46 - The end game

LINKS

Babylon Bitcoin Security

Interchain Security: Partial Set Security
Comos-Ethereum Converging

Atomic composability - IBC

Atom Wars

SOCIAL MEDIA (Twitter)
Sebastien Couture
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FAIR TOKEN LAUNCHES with Simon Chadwick of Eclipse Mar 06, 2024

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Eclipse Fi is a revolutionary hub for interchain token launches, bringing the value back into the hands of early communities. Eclipse Mainnet, launching in Q1 2024, is the fastest Ethereum L2, powered by the SVM. With an architecture that combines the best pieces of the modular stack, developers get all the benefits of dedicated throughput with none of the downsides. Eclipse makes it possible to build applications that can coordinate masses of people and scale with any developer’s needs.

TOPICS
00:00:00 - Introduction
00:06:46 - Terra's Collapse
00:10:27 - the next cycle of token launches
00:20:23 - Centralised vs Decentralised platforms
00:22:49 - Implementing KYC & compliance for projects
00:27:15 - The vision for eclipse
00:31:32 - Benefits of launching projects on Eclipse
00:35:16 - Supported launch mechanisms
00:37:47 - Reputation on the user side
00:41:07 - CIBIL
00:43:11 - How zkKYC works
00:47:17 - Liquidity hub
00:54:20 - Why Eclipse was built on Neutron
00:57:29 - Roadmap for Eclipse Fi

GUESTS
Simon on Twitter

SOCIAL MEDIA (Twitter)
Sebastien Couture
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