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Why Decentralized AI Needs Cosmos: Greg Osuri or Akash Explains Nov 09, 2024

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Sebastien Couture talks with Greg Osuri, founder of Akash, about Cosmos’ resilience, the push for decentralized AI, and the tech breakthroughs happening with Cosmos’ appchain model. Greg shares why Nvidia and other big names are exploring decentralized GPUs on Akash, how Cosmos can support open-source AI to avoid Big Tech control, and why Cosmos is seen as the “cockroach” of crypto—tough, resilient, and essential for the future of blockchain and AI. Tune in to learn how Cosmos tech is disrupting both AI and cloud computing.

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Why Meme Coins Are Beating DeFi – Farmer’s Take Nov 04, 2024

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Sebastien Couture and Farmer, CEO of Defi Dojo Validator,Æ explore the shifting landscape of DeFi, meme coins, and Cosmos. Farmer shares why meme coins have captured the market’s attention, how communities like Defi Dojo evaluate yield farming opportunities, and what’s driving the explosive interest in AI-generated meme coins. Dive into the mechanics of points farming, the market’s “bag bias,” and the evolving role of Cosmos SDK in today’s DeFi scene. Whether you’re a DeFi nerd or just curious about crypto’s latest trends, this episode has it all.

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04:20 - The next big prospect in Defi
07:29 - The Appeal of Meme Coins
15:20 - Key indicators for Meme Coins
21:44 - Doge Coins & other classic Meme Coins
25:34 - Bag bias

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Will Cosmos Reach its Full Potential? Cryptocito at Cosmoverse Oct 31, 2024

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Join Cryptocito and Sebastien Couture as they dive into the intense planning behind Cosmoverse 2024 and the evolving identity of Cosmos. From the unique challenges of hosting events in Dubai to Cosmos’ growing pains and its brand identity debate, they reveal what it takes to rally the interchain’s true believers. Learn why Cosmos’ ecosystem could be the Linux of crypto, how it's responding to brand challenges, and why events like Cosmoverse are crucial—even if they’re “financial nightmares.”

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Solving the Interchain's Liquidity Problem with Mitya Argunov of Drop Aug 30, 2024

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Mitya Argunov, Co-Founder of Drop, highlights the need for a new liquid staking protocol in the Cosmos ecosystem, emphasizing its integration with DeFi partners to enhance liquidity and use cases. Drop, built on Neutron, allows users to stake ATOM tokens, receive dATOM, and participate in DeFi, with plans to expand to Celestia and integrate with other roll-ups.

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00:00 Introduction

04:12 Drop Launch

06:36 Droplets Explained

10:43 Native Staking & The Interchain

20:04 Another LST?

28:23 Beyond the Hub: What’s Next?

31:58 Future Assets

36:39 Drop vs Milkyway

40:35 Celestia Liquid Staking

43:15 Liquid Staking Opportunities

47:41 Drop Architecture

52:43 Exchange Rate Secrets

62:15 How to Use Drop Today

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How Orchestration Makes Web 3 Feel More Like Web 2 w Dean Tribble of Agoric Aug 07, 2024

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I sat down with Dean Tribble CEO of Agoric at Nebular Summit to chat chain abstraction, Agoric's implementation of Chain Orchestration and how these technologies improve applications and user experience in crypto.

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00:00 Introduction
01:17 Chain Orchestration
08:01 Interoperability
10:23 User Experience & Safety
16:54 Crypto Regulations
24:24 NFT's
25:25 Building with Agoric

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Solving Ethereum Rollup Fragmentation with Austin King of Omni Labs Jul 12, 2024

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Join us on this episode as we dive into the future of Ethereum Layer 2 solutions with the CEO of Omni! Omni is revolutionizing the way developers build across different Ethereum Layer 2 solutions by providing a robust messaging layer and compute layer. By solving the fragmentation issue, Omni taps into liquidity from different networks, facilitating seamless cross-chain applications in the Ethereum ecosystem. Its architecture includes a secure messaging layer for roll-up communication and an EVM-based compute layer, ensuring interoperability and collateral management across roll-ups. Secured through restaking, with nodes offering services backed by restaked ETH, Omni's future looks promising. With advancements in AI and natural language programming, the landscape of alternative VMs like Move and Wasm could further evolve, enhancing the Ethereum ecosystem's capabilities. Join us in exploring Omni's innovative solutions for Ethereum Layer 2!

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00:00 - Introduction

11:12 - Blockchain Social-Fi Apps and Their Relevance

16:05 - Ethereum is Confused

23:58 - Vision and Architecture of Omni

30:57 - Omni as a Roll-Up as a Service Platform

35:18 - Enabling Cross-Chain Applications with Omni

42:40 - Securing Omni through Restaking

52:15 - The Future of Alternative VMs

56:19 - The Potential of AI

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Programmatic Monetary Policy for Protocols with Max Einhorn of Valence Jun 28, 2024

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Valence enables programmatic economic relationships between protocols. This allows crypto-native institutions (e.g., appchains & DAOs) to engage in complex financial interactions.

Valence is live today with two sub-protocols in private beta:

The Rebalancer lets protocols set desired portfolio targets and efficiently rebalance over time.
Covenants enable crypto-native institutions to lend protocol-owned liquidity (POL).

A key innovation is the ability to create POL markets, which is crucial for restaking. Valence ensures AVSs know exactly how much liquidity they will receive, making restaking protocols more attractive and generating new revenue sources.

Valence is to liquidity what EigenLayer is to security.

Beyond restaking, Valence enhances alignment between ecosystems and drives the future of the decentralized economy.

Learn how Valence’s crypto-native institutional debt markets improve cross-ecosystem alignment and drive the future of the DeFi economy.

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TOPICS
00:00 Introduction
02:06 Building Timewave & Valence
07:37 Valence Endgame
13:05 Bringing Institutional Capital to Crypto
16:55 What Valence Enables
22:09 Rebalancer
24:53 Covenants
31:04 Expressing Intent
38:16 Valence Architecture
41:07 Cosmos Hub Outlook
52:17 Protocol Monetary Policy
58:10 Final Thoughts

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Valence Protocol

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Bitcoin is Making a Comeback with Matt Ye of Lorenzo Jun 18, 2024

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Lorenzo is a Cosmos chain that leverages BTC shared security and enables liquid staking. In this conversation, Seb and Matt discuss the resurgence of interest in Bitcoin, particularly in the context of DeFi. They also explore the concept of liquid staking for Bitcoin and how it differs from liquid staking in proof-of-stake chains. Matt explains the architecture of Lorenzo, a Bitcoin liquid staking protocol built on the Cosmos chain, and how it leverages Babylon. They also touch on the different approaches to Bitcoin L2s and the importance of liquid staking to the success of the Bitcoin L2 ecosystem.
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00:00:00 Introduction
00:02:01 The Bitcoin Renaissance
00:05:13 Technical Improvements Enabling Bitcoin L2s & OP_CAT
00:12:51 Different Approaches to Bitcoin L2s
00:17:58 Could Bitcoin Become a POS Chain?
00:23:00 What is Lorenzo
00:28:29 The Dual Token Model & Yield Sources
00:30:36 Lorenzo Architecture
00:49:14 BTC-Fi
00:57:17 Current Status of Lorenzo

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Rebooting the Metaverse with Lex Avellino of Passage Jun 14, 2024

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Passage improves virtual experiences and collaboration, making them more organic and immersive and better reflecting the way we interact in real life. For creators, Passage is a platform that enables nearly unlimited creative freedom thanks to its use of the Unreal Engine. This allows creators to build unique experiences for their communities. How does this relate to crypto? The $PASG token is the economic foundation for a new creator economy where community members own their identity and digital assets.

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00:00:00 Introduction
00:17:09 Is the Metaverse Dead?
00:22:06 What is Passage
00:31:10 How to Use Passage
00:35:39 Crypto-Enabled Communities
00:41:29 Cosmos SDK Architecture
00:44:21 Akash Partnership
00:53:59 Passage Elite
00:57:38 Roadmap

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Passage's Website

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The Interchain Application Layer with Adair Kelley of Abstract Jun 05, 2024

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Abstract is an Interchain app platform enabling developers to build across CosmWasm-supported chains. Apps built with Abstract get automatic integrations with Interchain DEXes, lending markets, oracles, and liquid staking protocols.

The core infrastructure is the Abstract Account, a smart contract wallet extendable with Abstract modules. One exciting use case is mesh applications, where chains form an Interchain DAO to vote on and fund public goods at a supra-chain level.

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00:00 Introduction
02:33 CosmWasm Berlin Hackathon
10:14 Evolution of CosmWasm
15:20 What is Abstract
24:21 Security
32:06 Abstract-JS
34:36 Integrations
36:11 Modulars
37:48 IBC Email
40:50 Abstract & EVM apps

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