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    The Imperfects

    We’re all imperfect. On this podcast, founder of The Resilience Project Hugh van Cuylenburg, his good friend Ryan Shelton, and only one of their brothers, Josh van Cuylenburg, talks to a variety of interesting people who vulnerably share their own struggles and imperfections, or expertly pass on their wisdom on the subject of imperfection. Whether it’s in The Vulnerabilitea House, The Academy of Imperfection, or with our very own psychologist, Dr Emily, The Imperfects are here to find some valuable takeaways we can all apply to our own imperfect lives.

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    Michael (Wippa) Wipfli - Light at the End of the Tunnel Jun 18, 2023
    Show notes

    If you live in Sydney, you probably know Wippa. He’s on NOVA every morning with Fitzy and Kate Ritchie (or 6-7pm in the rest of the country), but he's also a veteran of Australian radio, having been on air for 20 years, making his start in Port Augusta before moving to Perth, then Melbourne and now Sydney.
    Wippa and Ryan have been great friends for a long time. They even co-hosted the NOVA drive show for two years with Monty Dimond in 2009 and 2010. During this time, Wippa went through one of the darkest periods of his life and leant on Ryan for support. Wippa talks about that time in this episode - how he got through it and the positives he takes out of it all these years later.
    But if it’s not Wippa’s extreme vulnerability that will stay with you after this episode, it’s the truly bizarre but incredible gift that he surprises Ryan with at the end. Wow.
    To watch Wippa sing 'The Confrontation' from Les Miserables with Hugh Jackman, follow this link: https://bit.ly/3BVhcPH

    This episode contains a conversation which mentions depression and suicidal thoughts. If this feels like it is too much for you to listen to right now, you may want to skip this one and come back another time.
    If are worried about someone you know, need to talk to someone bereaved by suicide, or want to start a discussion about suicide prevention in your family or community, Conversations Matter is a practical online resource to support safe and effective discussions about suicide, to access, please follow this link: https://bit.ly/3Wx9tAO

    The Imperfects is not a licensed mental health service and is not a substitute for professional mental health advice, treatment or assessment. The advice given in this episode is general in nature, but if you’re struggling, please see a healthcare professional, or call lifeline on 13 11 14.

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    Kemi Nekvapil - The Secret of Your Success Jun 11, 2023
    Show notes

    We all want to be successful. But what is ‘success’? And what if we’ve been thinking about it in the wrong way?
    Enter Kemi Nekvapil… back for the second time on The Imperfects!
    Kemi has worked in the wellness industry for 25 years and holistic leadership for 10 years. She is a mother, a wife, an endurance athlete, a gardener, an author with three books, and a certified Dare To Lead facilitator having trained personally with the one and only Brené Brown!
    In this Academy of Imperfection, Kemi joins Hugh, Ryan and Josh to talk all about finding TRUE success - which… surprise, surprise… has nothing to do with your achievements or your salary.
    To listen to Kemi's first Imperfects episode, follow this link: https://bit.ly/3BT7VaY

    To listen to Kemi's new Audible Original podcast, Power Talks with Kemi Nekvapil, follow this link: https://bit.ly/3ovvun1

    To learn more about what Kemi does, and to purchase her book, 'Power, A Woman's Guide to Living and Leading Without Apology', follow this link: https://bit.ly/45sFDBt
    To listen to Will McMahon Imperfects episode, mentioned in this episode follow this link: https://bit.ly/3MyMa4U

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    Ben Shewry (Pt 2) - How The Chef Was Made Jun 04, 2023
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    This is Pt2 of our chat with award-winning chef and owner of Melbourne restaurant, Attica. Go back and listen to Pt 1 if you haven’t yet. It’s a doozy. As the second part, this is a double-doozy… or a... twoozy… I guess.
    In this episode, Ben explains how he managed to build empathy amongst the staff at Attica through something he created called Staff Speeches. He also shares a harrowing bullying story from his childhood when his mother saved him from certain catastrophe, and finally Ben opens up for the first time publicly about his challenging journey with body image.
    As one of the most respected and celebrated chefs in the world, we’re very grateful that we were able to sit down with Ben like this. He left a very positive impression on all 3 of us, for very different reasons. Thanks Ben.
    To learn more about Attica and to book, follow this link: https://bit.ly/4386LUP
    To listen to our episode on how to write a gratitude letter, follow this link: https://bit.ly/45GtpVT

    To learn more about the mountain bike riding trip that Hugh, Ben and Hamish went on, visit Blue Darby Pods Ride Tasmania or follow this link: https://bit.ly/3IEs1tg

    This episode contains a graphic description of bullying experienced by our guest at a young age. If this feels like it is too much for you to listen to right now, you may want to skip this one and come back another time.

    If you or someone you know is experiencing body image issues or an eating disorder, The Butterfly Foundation is a fantastic resource and support. Please follow this link: butterfly.org.au

    For family and carer support please contact Eating Disorders Families Australia, or follow this link: edfa.org.au
    The Imperfects is not a licensed mental health service and is not a substitute for professional mental health advice, treatment or assessment. The advice given in this episode is general in nature, but if you’re struggling, please see a healthcare professional, or call lifeline on 13 11 14.

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    Ben Shewry (Pt 1) - The Other Side of Excellence May 28, 2023
    Show notes

    Originally from New Zealand, Ben Shewry is the head chef and owner of Melbourne-based restaurant Attica - the highly respected restaurant that has been included in the World’s 50 Best Restaurants numerous times.

    Ben’s chat with Hugh, Ryan and Josh was so big and so special, it needed to be split across 2 big and special episodes.

    In this first big and special part, they talk about what makes Attica such a unique place, how he approaches his work, and how he deals with the anxiety that arose from his divorce.
    But, what is sprinkled across everything Ben does, is his unwavering commitment to excellence and his adoration of change.
    To learn more about Attica and to book, follow this link: https://bit.ly/4386LUP
    For book recommendation, Kitchen Confidential, by Anthony Bourdain, follow this link: https://bit.ly/43hC7rC

    To watch the trailer for 'The Menu' movie, that ben mentions in the episode, follow this link: https://bit.ly/3BPYEQC

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    Dr Emily - Curb Your Perfectionism May 21, 2023
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    We’ve spent about four and a half years on this podcast telling you why we’re all imperfect. But on this episode, Dr Emily actually explains why trying to be PERFECT is… well… really bad. And not only why it’s really bad, but why perfectionism’s mere existence is stealing all the good from our lives.
    Take it away Dr Emily……… PSYCHOLOGIST!

    To learn more about Lynn Lyon's work around anxiety and perfectionism, follow this link: https://www.lynnlyons.com/

    To hear Josh's first VulnerabiliTea House, where he talks about "the notebook" and why he struggles to write music now, follow this link: https://bit.ly/3OsQVj2
    The Imperfects is not a licensed mental health service and is not a substitute for professional mental health advice, treatment or assessment. The advice given in this episode is general in nature, but if you’re struggling, please see a healthcare professional, or call lifeline on 13 11 14.

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    Broden Kelly - When Anger & Creativity Collide May 14, 2023
    Show notes

    If you don’t know comedy sketch group Aunty Donna, then take a moment, open your local internet browser and watch their incredible stuff for a bit (some of it is linked below). Then come back and listen to this episode with Aunty Donna's, Broden Kelly.
    In this Vulnerabilitea House, Broden talks about his own and Aunty Donna’s creative process, and how it’s evolved over the years while working together on stage and on the telly. But at the heart of this conversation, is Broden’s vulnerability in regards to his anger - how it affected his life and work, and what he did to get on top of it, before it got on top of him.
    To watch Aunty Donna's Coffee Cafe on iview, follow this link: https://bit.ly/450zgVE
    To watch Aunty Donna's Real Estate Agents video, that is mentioned in the podcast, follow this link: https://bit.ly/3nTvEV4

    To Listen to Broden's podcast, The Footy with Broden Kelly, follow this link: https://bit.ly/3pv8S6

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    Emma Murray - How Mindfulness Actually Works May 07, 2023
    Show notes

    Emma Murray is the high-performance mindset coach for the Richmond Football Club and Mum to four children.
    As the founder of High-Performance Mindfulness - a company that uses mindfulness, psychology and meditation to help people perform at their best - Emma works with elite athletes, corporate executives, students and actors.
    In this very practical and vulnerable episode, Emma explains how high-performance mindfulness has not only helped her clients, but also helped her when in 2016, her son Will (13 at the time) sustained a spinal cord injury that left him in a wheelchair for life.
    To learn more about Emma Murray and High Performance Mindfulness, follow this link: https://www.highperformancemindfulness.com.au/

    For book recommendation, The Mindful Athlete by George Mumford, follow this link: https://bit.ly/417XF8R

    For book recommendation, Sacred Hoops by Phil Jackson, follow this linkhttps://bit.ly/3pcXL1L

    To listen to Emma's son Will on The Dyl and Friends podcast, follow this link: https://bit.ly/3NGoGgD

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    360 (Matt Colwell) - From Addiction to Authenticity Apr 30, 2023
    Show notes

    This extremely raw and revealing episode with Australian rapper 360 is all about authenticity. 10 years ago, 360 (Matt Colwell) was one of the most successful and respected artists in Australia. His songs and albums went multi-platinum, he was winning prestigious ARIA and APRA awards and his enormous tours sold out nationally. But what no one knew at the time, is he was simultaneously battling an addiction that nearly took his life.
    Here, with Hugh, Ryan and Josh, 360 tells the whole story, including how he reached a point where he could make music and tour again in his own authentic way.
    To buy tickets to 360's 2023 tour and listen to his new music, follow this link: https://bit.ly/3LvcjSO

    To purchase book recommendation, Chasing the Scream by Johann Hari, follow this link: https://bit.ly/3LawC6D

    To watch Johann Hari's Ted Talk, Everything You Know About Addiction is Wrong, follow this link: https://bit.ly/446s4qA

    To watch Karen Perlmutter's Ted Talk, 'The island of sanity: Navigating through loved ones' addictions', follow this link: https://bit.ly/3NagDs4

    To listen to "I'm Sorry" by 360, follow this link: https://bit.ly/3V9GbaT
    If you are a friend or family member of someone with an addiction, below are some support services:

    • The First Stop: https://thefirststop.org.au/
    • The Parent and Family drug support line: https://bit.ly/3neo46V
    • Family Drug support: https://www.fds.org.au/

    The Imperfects is not a licensed mental health service and is not a substitute for professional mental health advice, treatment or assessment. The advice given in this episode is general in nature, but if you’re struggling, please see a healthcare professional, or call lifeline on 13 11 14.

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    Dr Emily - How Anger Affects Us All Apr 23, 2023
    Show notes

    We all get angry. Some of us show our anger and some of us suppress it, but at the end of the day, we’re all susceptible to being angry.
    In this episode, Dr Emily goes into the many aspects of anger - how it can show up in our lives, how it affects us and the people around us, and of course, what we can do about it.
    If you liked this episode, you might be interested in book recommendation, When the Body Says No, The Hidden Cost of Stress, by Dr Gabor Mate: https://bit.ly/3NcTFQS

    To view research and studies around emotional suppression, anger and mortality, follow these links, https://bit.ly/3UZvOGr , https://bit.ly/3H5h8zS and https://bit.ly/3LlBDup
    To learn more about Chris Germer's work, around anger as information, mindfulness and self-compassion, follow this link: https://chrisgermer.com/
    To lean more about Robyn Walser's work on the four components of anger and to purchase a self-directed, commitment and acceptance therapy based workbook on managing emotions and anger, follow this link: https://bit.ly/3H6QINY

    To listen to Tarang Chawla's Imperfects episode about men's violence against women, follow this link: https://bit.ly/3N4altS

    To listen to Tarang Chawla's podcast, There's No Place Like Home, follow this link: https://bit.ly/3H5w2Wy
    To learn more about the Oura Ring Hugh spoke about, follow this link: https://ouraring.com/

    The Imperfects is not a licensed mental health service and is not a substitute for professional mental health advice, treatment or assessment. The advice given in this episode is general in nature, but if you’re struggling, please see a healthcare professional, or call lifeline on 13 11 14.

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    Bronte Campbell - Comparison, The Thief of Joy Apr 16, 2023
    Show notes

    What if you were one of the best swimmers in the world, but you still couldn’t beat your older sister? That’s what Olympic swimmer Bronte Campbell has been facing for most of her career with her sister, Cate Campbell.
    In this Vulnerabilitea House, Bronte opens up about being at the top of the professional swimming world, but still living in someone’s shadow. And how comparison stole much of the joy she might have otherwise felt. But she also describes how the perspective provided by her brother with Cerebral Palsy made her realise what’s truly important.
    To listen to Libby Trickett's Imperfects episode, follow this link: https://bit.ly/3MMGupL

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


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