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    The Imperfects

    We’re all imperfect. On this podcast, founder of The Resilience Project Hugh van Cuylenburg, his good friend Ryan Shelton, and only one of their brothers, Josh van Cuylenburg, talks to a variety of interesting people who vulnerably share their own struggles and imperfections, or expertly pass on their wisdom on the subject of imperfection. Whether it’s in The Vulnerabilitea House, The Academy of Imperfection, or with our very own psychologist, Dr Emily, The Imperfects are here to find some valuable takeaways we can all apply to our own imperfect lives.

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    Copyright: © 2025 Hugh van Cuylenburg, Ryan Shelton & Josh van Cuylenburg

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    Lael Stone - Parent Yourself First Jan 21, 2024
    Show notes

    To look after our loved ones, we need to start by looking after ourselves. And according to parenting expert Lael Stone, that means looking back and showing compassion to our younger selves.
    In this b-b-b-bonus summer episode we’re very lucky to have Lael back for a third time (her previous episodes are linked below) as we prepare for a new year with new challenges.
    But don’t worry. You’ll be ready for anything after an hour with Lael Stone.

    To learn more about Lael and her work, follow this link: https://bit.ly/46RXZvg

    To learn more about Lael's school, Woodline Primary, follow this link: https://bit.ly/487YAKj

    To hear our first two episodes with Lael, follow these links:

    • Lael Stone - Take Care of Yourself: https://apple.co/4eAJNuw
    • Lael Stone - Creating Emotionally Intelligent Humans: https://apple.co/3V2vuIb

    To hear our episode with Gina Chick, mentioned in this episode, follow this link: https://bit.ly/3UKpxQ8

    The Imperfects is not a licensed mental health service and is not a substitute for professional mental health advice, treatment or assessment. The advice given in this episode is general in nature, but if you’re struggling, please see a healthcare professional, or call lifeline on 13 11 14.

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    Mrs Claus - Santa’s Better Half Dec 17, 2023
    Show notes

    Heads up: Mrs Claus is VERY close friends with comedian, Urzila Carlson. As such, this Special Christmas Episode is definitely not appropriate for kids.
    Last year, we were honoured to sit down with the one and only Santa Claus as he joined us in The Vulnerabilitea House. A big thank you to Glenn Robbins for organising that interview for us! Link below if you missed it.
    This year, Hugh, Josh and Ryan meet the woman who claims to be the brains behind the operation, Mrs Claus (or is it Ms Claus?). In a very busy time of the year for her, she generously picks a few cards from the Vulnerabilitea House card deck and shares what really goes down behind the scenes on… The Pole.
    The Imperfects will donate all ad revenue from this episode to Urzila Carlson's charity of choice, Women’s Refuge. They are New Zealand's largest nationwide organisation that supports and helps women and children experiencing family violence. If you'd like to know more about the charity, or make a donation, follow this link: https://bit.ly/41lUUTd

    To watch this full episode on YouTube, follow this link: https://bit.ly/48fzwlf

    To see Urzila Carlson live in 2024, follow this link: https://bit.ly/46RdhAn
    To listen to last years Vulnerabilitea House episode with Santa Claus, follow this link: https://apple.co/40Y7HNs. Or to watch it, follow this link: https://bit.ly/41or14A

    To listen to Urzila's podcast, That's Enough Already, follow this link: https://bit.ly/3RDowb6

    To purchase our Vulnerabilitea House card sets, follow this link: https://bit.ly/3PBFlkR

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    Dr Emily - Merry Not-Enoughmas Dec 10, 2023
    Show notes

    For some people, Christmas Day is the most wonderful time of the year. But for others, catching up with friends and family at this time of the year can lead to pain and sadness and as Dr Emily describes it, an overwhelming feeling of “not-enoughness”.
    In this special bonus episode, Dr Emily explains where this feeling comes from and why it pops up year after year. But as always she gives us some helpful advice on what we can do to address it and feel a little less alone this Christmas.
    So from us to you, on this Season Finale… Merry Not-Enoughmas.
    To find volunteering opportunities through Australian Volunteers, or Seek Volunteer, follow these links: https://bit.ly/41kiTSv & https://bit.ly/3NmkbXl

    For anyone in WA, you can also find group activities and volunteer opportunities through Act, Below, Commit, by following this link: https://bit.ly/3uYD3W0

    For book recommendation, The Stress Prescription, 7 Days To More Joy and Ease, by Elissa Epel, follow this link: https://bit.ly/47OjU81

    The Imperfects is not a licensed mental health service and is not a substitute for professional mental health advice, treatment or assessment. The advice given in this episode is general in nature, but if you’re struggling, please see a healthcare professional, or call lifeline on 13 11 14.

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    Chanel Contos - Consensual Healing Dec 03, 2023
    Show notes

    Dear Men,
    Please listen to this episode about consent and rape culture.
    Hugh, Ryan & Josh x
    On the face of it, this Academy of Imperfection with Chanel Contos may seem like a heavy episode. An episode about consent, rape culture and sexual violence might not seem like an episode that concerns you. That may be true, but if the #MeToo movement taught us anything, it’s that you probably know someone who’s either been raped or sexually assaulted in some way.
    We have a lot to learn about consent, and we owe it to the women in our lives to listen to Chanel Contos.
    To learn more about Chanel, her work and the Teach Us Consent campaign, follow this link: https://bit.ly/3QVhlK0

    To purchase Chanel's book, 'Consent Laid Bare', follow this link: https://bit.ly/40Z0Xgh
    Recommended TV series, Sex Education and Heart Break High can be viewed on Netflix.

    To view a version of the 'rape culture pyramid', follow this link: https://bit.ly/49XPFgh

    If you have experienced, or are at risk of sexual violence, sexual assault, family or domestic violence, call the 24 hour national counselling service 1800RESPECT (1800 737 732). In an emergency, or if you are feeling unsafe, always call the police on 000.
    The Imperfects is not a licensed mental health service and is not a substitute for professional mental health advice, treatment or assessment. The advice given in this episode is general in nature, but if you’re struggling, please see a healthcare professional, or call lifeline on 13 11 14.

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    Gina Chick - Don't Fight Life Nov 26, 2023
    Show notes

    Gina Chick grew up… different. She wasn’t like the other kids, and they let her know about it. But as an adult she learned to see her “different” as a strength, which led to her most well-known achievement, outlasting everyone else for 67 days in the Tasmanian wilderness to win ALONE Australia.
    But as you’ll hear, that’s only a part of her story - as is the fact that she’s very close friends with Hugh Jackman.
    After going through some of the lowest lows a human can experience, Gina learned the power of discomfort and is here to spread the word in our very first ever outdoor episode!
    To learn more about Gina, her rewilding camps and 5Rythyms dance, follow this link: https://bit.ly/3QRnkzq

    To watch Alone Australia, follow this link: https://bit.ly/3Rd3m3
    This episode includes a discussion about the loss of a child, if this feels like it might be too much for you to listen to right now, feel free to come back to it when you're feeling up to it.
    The Imperfects is not a licensed mental health service and is not a substitute for professional mental health advice, treatment or assessment. The advice given in this episode is general in nature, but if you’re struggling, please see a healthcare professional, or call lifeline on 13 11 14.

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    Hamish Macdonald - How To Be You Nov 19, 2023
    Show notes

    As co-host of The Project, Hamish Macdonald has seen and done more than most journalists could ever dream to achieve in their entire career.
    Before The Project and a stint hosting ABC’s Q+A program, Hamish worked and reported around the world from war zones to natural disasters, winning a bunch of prestigious awards including a coveted Walkley Award in the process.
    But as he discusses with Hugh, Ryan and Josh, he’s also faced bullying throughout his life, whether that be from students during his high school days, or from online trolls during his Q+A days - a challenging experience that drove him to leave social media forever.
    This open and honest chat covers it all, and turns out to be a pretty handy, albeit accidental guide on How To Be You.
    To listen to Hamish's new podcast, Take Me To Your Leader, follow this link: https://bit.ly/3ukzpph

    To listen to our episode with Missy Higgins, follow this link: https://apple.co/4fVM8Bo
    To listen to our episode on stress and burnout with Dr Emily, follow this link: https://apple.co/3CE41WT

    To listen to Josh's song, We Were Here, follow this link: https://bit.ly/3Zyg3bG

    To read article recommendation, Why The Internet Isn't Fun Anymore, follow this link: https://bit.ly/3FZGnTh

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    Dr Louise Newson - Maybe it’s Menopause Nov 12, 2023
    Show notes

    Menopause, or THE Menopause according to our guest lecturer Dr Louise Newson, affects every woman at some point in her life. That’s 51% of the entire world! And even if you’re not a woman, chances are you know a few of them.
    Either way, the menopause IS coming. And you better be ready.
    Dr Louise Newson is a GP and Menopause specialist who is campaigning for better menopause care for all women. But despite her specialisation and regular lecturing on the subject, even she didn’t pick up on the signs when her own menopause kicked in and convinced her she hated her own husband!
    This episode isn’t just everything you need to know about your own menopause, this is everything you need to know about your wife’s/mother’s/daughter’s/sister’s/friend’s/colleague’s menopause.

    To learn more about Louise, her work and to access more information on the menopause and peri-menopause, follow this link: https://bit.ly/49rgqJH

    To download Louise's Balance app, follow this link: https://bit.ly/3FOhpWS

    To learn more and purchase Dr Louise's books, follow this link: https://bit.ly/3ueOQ2p

    For Australian support, information & research, visit the below websites:

    • WellFemme is a Telehealth menopause clinic, providing evidence-based menopause information and treatment in collaboration with your GP: https://bit.ly/3FYcAdn
    • Menopause Friendly provides information and practical resources to support staff experiencing menopausal symptoms at work and helps managers and HR professionals understand how they can provide the right support to their workforce: https://bit.ly/49rgx85
    • VITAL is an innovative research project that women can take part in to map the experience of Australian women around peri/menopause. It operates as a registry that collects data via a questionnaire. This data could determine how best to support the population and the research is run by Assoc Prof Erin Morton at Flinders University: https://bit.ly/3QQydTl

    The Imperfects is not a licensed mental health service and is not a substitute for professional mental health advice, treatment or assessment. The advice given in this episode is general in nature, but if you’re struggling, please see your doctor, a healthcare professional, or call lifeline on 13 11 14.

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    Dr Emily - Who Do You Desire? Nov 05, 2023
    Show notes

    We know, we know, we know. ‘Who Do You Desire? is a very click-baity title. But we’re pretty confident that if you DO take the bait (come onnnn), you’ll be nicely rewarded.
    In this episode, our resident psychologist Dr Emily talks with Hugh, Ryan and Josh about the concept of Mimetic Desire - the idea that whether we like it or not, pure originality is impossible. All of us are being influenced by someone. The question is, are we proud of the someones currently influencing us, or does our influencer list need a shake up?
    Once again, Dr Emily has the answers.
    For book recommendation, 'Wanting, Mimetic Desire: How to Avoid Chasing the Things You Don't Want', by Luke Burgis, follow this link: https://bit.ly/3QIpFOm
    The Imperfects is not a licensed mental health service and is not a substitute for professional mental health advice, treatment or assessment. The advice given in this episode is general in nature, but if you’re struggling, please see a healthcare professional, or call lifeline on 13 11 14.

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    Steve Hooker - The Ups & Downs & Ups Oct 29, 2023
    Show notes

    Not many of us have won Olympic Gold. And even fewer of us have jumped over a 6m high bar. But Australian pole vaulting champion Steve Hooker has done both. And boy oh boy does he have a story to tell!? That was rhetorical btw, he definitely does have a story to tell.
    What would you do if you were the best in the world at something one day, and then the next day you suddenly couldn’t do that thing anymore?? At all. That’s pretty much what happened to Steve. And on this episode he tells childhood friends Hugh and Josh, along with newhood friend Ryan, how he was able to get through that and how it affected his mental health.
    To donate to the Community Spirit Foundation through the sMile relay event, follow this link: https://bit.ly/3Sg33WL
    To buy ticket's to the Zatopek race where Hugh, Steve, Brendan and Simon will be attempting to break the 400m relay record (in the mens 40-44 age group), follow this link (and remember use the code "theimperfects" at the top of the ticket listing for $5 of the proceeds to be donated to the Community Spirit Foundation): https://bit.ly/473VKW8
    To watch Steve's winning jump in the 2008 Beijing Olympics, follow this link: https://bit.ly/40cDuYl

    To watch the pink dildo security camera footage, follow this link: https://bit.ly/40dbF2c

    For app recommendation, Calm, (compassion and loving kindness meditations), follow this link: https://bit.ly/3MhcRMe

    For book recommendation, Positivity, by Barbra Fredrickson, follow this link: https://bit.ly/3FxjBSf

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    Lewis Hobba - Success Is Never Enough Oct 22, 2023
    Show notes

    Lewis Hobba grew up idolising Triple J. But despite being chosen as Triple J’s drive-time co-host by the age of 30, and being selected by Andrew Denton as one of Australia’s most creative and talented young performers for the show Hungry Beast, Lewis never felt like he succeeded in anything.
    In this Vulnerabilitea House, Lewis tells Hugh, Ryan and Josh what it was like behind the scenes for him during this time and how he dealt with crippling anxiety on a daily basis until eventually seeking help.
    To listen to Lewis's podcast 'Silver Bullet', follow this link: https://bit.ly/3ScFmyB
    To hear Ryan's episode where he talks about shame, jealousy and finding his purpose, follow this link: https://bit.ly/46AfnW3
    To purchase our Vulnerabilitea House card sets, follow this link: https://bit.ly/3PBFlkR

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


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