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    The Imperfects

    We’re all imperfect. On this podcast, founder of The Resilience Project Hugh van Cuylenburg, his good friend Ryan Shelton, and only one of their brothers, Josh van Cuylenburg, talks to a variety of interesting people who vulnerably share their own struggles and imperfections, or expertly pass on their wisdom on the subject of imperfection. Whether it’s in The Vulnerabilitea House, The Academy of Imperfection, or with our very own psychologist, Dr Emily, The Imperfects are here to find some valuable takeaways we can all apply to our own imperfect lives.

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    Copyright: © 2025 Hugh van Cuylenburg, Ryan Shelton & Josh van Cuylenburg

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    Getting Vulny - Josh’s Big Announcement Oct 10, 2024
    Show notes

    We’re gettin’ vullllnnnnyyyyy. Oooohhhhh yeahhhhhh.

    Yeah, that’s right. We’re trying something new. And, in the coolest way possible, we really hope you like it.

    Specifically, Josh is gettin’ vulny, and letting us in on a little something he’s been working on (or hoping to work on) (he’s nervous).

    We’re so proud of you Josh, and we can’t wait to see everyone there x

    TO BUY TICKETS TO JOSH’S GIG (!!!!!) - follow this link: https://bit.ly/3zG9XxG

    To watch this full episode on YouTube, follow this link: https://bit.ly/3YiWANo

    🎧 Things to listen to:

    • The Vulnerabilitea House - Josh van Cuylenburg - https://apple.co/4dKKbpI
    • Vulnerability Update - Josh Wrote a Song! - https://bit.ly/3Nld9BV
    • James Clear - Down The Habit Hole - https://bit.ly/3XZhQGr

    📺 Things to watch:

    • we were here - Josh van Cuylenburg Official Video - https://bit.ly/405eFzs
    • Nick Cave Australian Story - https://bit.ly/4858zRY

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    Dr Emily - The Certainty of Uncertainty Oct 06, 2024
    Show notes

    Do you believe that if you stop worrying, the worst-case scenario will happen?

    According to Dr Emily, uncertainty, is the only certainty (mic drop) (jaw drop) (the crowd goes silent).

    If you weren’t having an existential crisis yet, strap yourself in, because today we’re talking worry and uncertainty.

    In this emisode, our resident psychologist Dr Emily Musgrove talks us through our new-age uncertainty intolerance, and why we continuously seek reassurance and data to drive our decision-making process.

    We talk big, global-warming size unpredictability, and also small, picking a restaurant without reading reviews uncertainty, to explore the role of worry in our lives.

    Without further ado, let’s dive into the unknown and find safety in the present moment.

    You can watch this full episode on YouTube here - https://youtu.be/jo5Ex1a2OwM

    🎧Things to listen to:

    • Myf Warhurst - The Anxiety of Uncertainty - https://apple.co/3Z2KKYj
    • Dr Louise Newson - Maybe It’s Menopause - https://apple.co/4cAKDq8
    • Sean Turnell - A Prisoner’s Guide to Life - https://apple.co/3yGPick
    • Ann Davidman - Should You Have Children? - https://apple.co/3MivhMn
    • Dr Emily - The Risk of Avoiding Risk - https://apple.co/4fZpp8c
    • Elizabeth Day - The Me-est Version of Me - https://apple.co/47PubRU

    📺Things to watch:

    • Brene Brown - The Call to Courage - https://bit.ly/3AD6XSR

    💻Things to check out:

    • Mother of Mindfulness (Ellen Langer) - Making the Decision Right - https://bit.ly/4eKjoLa
    • Increasing Intolerance of Uncertainty Over Time - Nicholas Carleton - https://bit.ly/47PMRB8
    • Rick Hanson - I am all right, right now - https://bit.ly/3AFIe07

    The Imperfects is not a licensed mental health service and is not a substitute for professional mental health advice, treatment or assessment. The advice given in this episode is general in nature, but if you’re struggling, please see a healthcare professional, or call lifeline on 13 11 14.

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    Zoë Foster Blake - Zero Lucks Given Sep 29, 2024
    Show notes

    Author, business lady and skincare wizard (according to her customs card), Zoë Foster Blake is nothing short of prolific.

    Chatting with Hugh, Ryan and Josh in this Vulnerabilitea House, Zoë talks through the pressure and responsibility she felt during her loneliest time.

    Striking ‘luck’ as a dirty word, Zoë’s compulsion to be productive and produce ‘good work’ has earned her a multitude of publishing awards for her numerous books, the production of one of her novels into a TV show, the stocking of her skincare brand Go-To in Mecca and Sephora, and a cult following.

    But something’s gotta give when you’re striving to have it all, and Zoë knows better than anyone how relationships, mental and physical health can all suffer when you’re burn-out adjacent.

    Zoë preaches the importance of sleep, and discusses how she combats anxious thoughts before bedtime, as well as perimenopause (and how you’re probably gaslighting yourself into thinking you aren’t going through it).

    Zoë, what a joy.
    To watch this episode on YouTube, follow this link: https://youtu.be/cfaS-lIj9Mk

    📖 Things to read:

    • Things Will Calm Down Soon (Zoë’s BRAND NEW book) - https://bit.ly/3XWiTIA
    • Scaredy Bath by Zoë Foster Blake - https://bit.ly/3XQ3A3Q
    • No One Likes A Fart by Zoë Foster Blake - https://bit.ly/3Xz3wEu
    • Zoë’s entire back catalogue of books - https://bit.ly/3ZyMQj2
    • How To Be Idle by Tom Hodgkinson - https://bit.ly/3Zto6Zs
    • This Is Marketing by Seth Godin - https://amzn.to/4dhxh2f

    💻 Things to Check Out

    • Go-To, Bro-To and Gro-To Skincare - https://gotoskincare.com
    • Balance App - https://bit.ly/3FOhpWS

    📺Things to Watch

    • The Wrong Girl - https://apple.co/3Bg5nqe
    • Michael Phelps Doorway Technique - https://bit.ly/3XAT9Qz
    • Slumdog Millionaire - https://bit.ly/3Zw2lIj

    🎧Things to listen to

    • Dr Louise Newson - Maybe It’s Menopause - https://apple.co/4cAKDq8

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    Dr Billy Garvey - From Boyz II Men Sep 22, 2024
    Show notes

    Dr Billy Garvey gets kids.

    A developmental and behavioural paediatrician with over twenty years experience, Billy is an expert at up-skilling kids with the fundamental skills of empathy, kindness, compassion and self-esteem.

    Due to the extremely high demand for his expertise (the clinic waiting list is most likely seven years long at this point), Billy decided to co-produce his own podcast ‘Pop-Culture Parenting’, and has also just released a book Ten Things I Wish You Knew About Your Child’s Mental Health.

    In this Academy, Billy gets into the nitty gritty about masculinity, role modelling and teaching emotional regulation to kids, especially young boys (we even talk about porn). Extremely generous in sharing his own story, Billy reveals the purpose behind his clinic, and how he finds immense privilege in being here to do the work that he does (you’re going to need tissues).

    Thank you Billy, it is always pleasure.
    To watch this episode on YouTube, follow this link: https://bit.ly/47BHJAw

    📖Things to read:

    • Ten Things I Wish You Knew About Your Child’s Mental Health by Dr Billy Garvey - https://bit.ly/4eqyTb6

    🎧Things to listen to:

    • The Academy of Imperfection - Dr Billy Garvey, Paediatrician - https://apple.co/4doCYM8
    • An Imperfect Chat About Men - https://apple.co/4e2vQpP
    • Another Imperfect Chat About Men - https://apple.co/3B6WkaW
    • Pop-Culture Parenting - https://bit.ly/4e0VRpp
    • Kendrick Lamar: The Art of Peer Pressure - https://bit.ly/3TupbMT

    💻Things to check out:

    • Social Learning Theory - https://bit.ly/3ZlYGwP and https://bit.ly/4dV9NkJ

    This episode references domestic violence. If this feels like too much for you to listen to right now, please skip this one, and come back when you are ready.

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    Nathan Buckley - Out of The Woods Sep 15, 2024
    Show notes

    For Nathan Buckley, self-reflection is critical for becoming the person he wants to be.

    Placed on a pedestal during his playing career (for good reason), Bucks was Collingwood’s favourite son, and GOD he felt the pressure. Communicating only through criticism, both to himself and his teammates, Bucks says he was "demented" in the way he trained.

    In this episode, Bucks shares the steps he took to change his entire approach to playing and coaching footy. Importantly, unlearning that playing good footy meant being worthy and how letting go and asking for help completely changed his relationship with himself.
    Also... The Courage To Be Disliked gets a few mentions, we PROMISE Ryan isn’t sponsored, just obsessed!

    Bucks, for someone who bleeds black and white, you have the biggest heart, and we love you a lot.

    To watch this full episode on YouTube, follow this link: https://bit.ly/3MIykxv

    📺Things to watch:

    • Beefy’s Motivational Speech at Collingwood - https://bit.ly/3T9dCub
    • Hugh’s ‘GEM’ Amazon Special - https://bit.ly/4dFL4AW

    🎧Things to listen to:

    • Jack Watts - Anxiety, Pressure in Football and Mistakes

    📖Things to read:

    • The Courage To Be Disliked by Ichiro Kishimi and Fumitake Koga - https://bit.ly/3Z0M1iK
    • How To Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie - https://amzn.to/3Z0jhqq
    • How To Fight The Urge to Make Everything About Yourself - https://bit.ly/3yJddb3

    The Imperfects is not a licensed mental health service and is not a substitute for professional mental health advice, treatment or assessment. The advice given in this episode is general in nature, but if you’re struggling, please see a healthcare professional, or call lifeline on 13 11 14.

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    Dr Emily - Compassion of The Self Sep 08, 2024
    Show notes

    Do you feel like you're on your own side? Are you able to speak to yourself with kindness? Or stick up for yourself in front of others?

    That, my friend, is self-compassion and it can be incredibly hard to do.

    Dr Em says, "compassion" in Latin translates to “with suffering.” And SELF-compassion is how we relate, reflect and react when our self is suffering.

    In this episode, Dr Em talks about why cultivating a self-compassionate voice is SO DIFFICULT, but how it's also pivotal in getting us through our darkest moments.

    And we chat through whether self-compassion needs a re-brand? (Hugh's gunning for self-chop-out, but we're still taking recommendations?)

    To watch this full episode on YouTube, follow this link: https://bit.ly/4gdli8B

    📖Books Josh hasn’t read (but definitely will at some point)

    • Against Empathy - Paul Bloom - https://amzn.to/4g53tbR
    • Fierce Compassion - Kristin Neff - https://amzn.to/4cJESGI

    🎧Things to listen to

    • Brooke Blurton - The Path of Most Resilience - https://apple.co/4e8XmkP
    • Dr Emily - Who Is Your Inner Critic & Why Is It There? - https://apple.co/3XaFdw9

    💻Things to check out

    • Kristin Neff’s online resources - https://bit.ly/3XspqKL
    • Paul Gilbert’s review on Self-Compassion - https://bit.ly/3AQbJML

    Dr Emily is a clinical psychologist and you can find out more about her here - https://bit.ly/4gesuBy

    The Imperfects is not a licensed mental health service and is not a substitute for professional mental health advice, treatment or assessment. The advice given in this episode is general in nature, but if you’re struggling, please see a healthcare professional, or call lifeline on 13 11 14.

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    Grace Tame - "Sexy-time, Scissoring, Autism" Sep 01, 2024
    Show notes

    In this Vulnerabilitea House, Grace addresses her adolescent self with a simple message - “It wasn’t your fault.”

    Australian of the Year, Next Generation Leader (as voted by Time Magazine), ultra-marathon runner and changer of laws, Grace Tame can't be tamed.

    Here she discusses the uncomfortable truths of her child sexual abuse, grooming & rape. She shares how survival mode became her new normal while dealing, and continuously recounting, her trauma in the public eye.

    Talking body, Grace is honest about her struggle with anorexia and the relief (after a whole lot of pain) of a recent endometriosis diagnosis.
    Ohh and she talks about autism, in the most beautiful unfiltered way!

    Grace, it was the biggest privilege to have you in the studio. We love you immensely.

    To see Grace speak live (we implore you to), tickets for her show, Lightening the Load with Grace Tame are available here - https://bit.ly/3MitxTh.

    To watch the full episode on YouTube, follow this link: https://bit.ly/4cMEvLC

    📖Things to Read

    • The Ninth Life of a Diamond Miner: A Memoir - https://bit.ly/3AMZX5z
    • Betrayed by my body - Michael Salter - https://bit.ly/3AzB2m0

    💻Things to check out

    • The Grace Tame Foundation - https://bit.ly/4cEHtld

    📺Things to watch

    • Grace’s Australian of the Year Award Speech - https://ab.co/3yVZBJr


    🦋 If you or someone you know if experiencing an eating disorder, these are some helpful resources to look into:

    • The Butterfly Foundation - https://butterfly.org.au/
    • Eating Disorders Families Australia - https://edfa.org.au
    • Uncovery - https://bit.ly/3x4IOCO

    The Imperfects is not a licensed mental health service and is not a substitute for professional mental health advice, treatment or assessment. The advice given in this episode is general in nature, but if you’re struggling, please see a healthcare professional, or call lifeline on 13 11 14.

    Or visit the below support services.

    • Beyond Blue - https://www.beyondblue.org.au
    • Suicide Call Back Service - 1300 659 467 - https://www.suicidecallbackservice.org.au/
    • Reach Out - https://au.reachout.com

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    Rana Hussain - Belonging For Connection Aug 25, 2024
    Show notes

    Have you ever felt excluded? Or like you don't belong? It turns out that belonging is a fundamental human need. To thrive, we need to feel safe, we need to feel welcome, but very importantly, we need to know the tribe has our back.
    In this Academy of Imperfection, Hugh, Ryan and Josh chat to founder of Good Human, Rana Hussain. Rana is a host of The Outer Sanctum podcast, a board member of Reconciliation Australia and consultant to a plethora of elite sporting clubs on bettering their diversity and inclusion strategies.
    In this episode, she shares how to get curious in a respectful way, why listening is everything and how to live a life true to your identity. Ohh and there's a pretty incredible love story in the ep as well!

    Rana, it was an absolute joy, and you definitely left us better than you found us.

    To watch this full episode on YouTube, follow this link -

    💻Things to check out

    • Good Human - https://www.goodhuman.au
    • Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs - https://bit.ly/4dsy3KX

    🎧Things to listen to

    • The Outer Sanctum - https://spoti.fi/3WJ9iCU
    • Pallavi Sharda - Where We Belong - https://apple.co/3M3iEV5
    • Dr Emily - Other People Matter - https://apple.co/3M4A8k8

    📖Things to read

    • Belonging: The Ancient Code of Togetherness by Owen Eastwood - https://amzn.to/3M7s16l

    The Imperfects is not a licensed mental health service and is not a substitute for professional mental health advice, treatment or assessment. The advice given in this episode is general in nature, but if you’re struggling, please see a healthcare professional, or call lifeline on 13 11 14.

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    Jack Steele - Socials Anxiety Aug 18, 2024
    Show notes

    ‘The Inspired Unemployed’ began when a couple of tradies, Jack Steele and Matt ‘Falcon’ Ford, began an Instagram to catalogue the skits they were writing and filming overseas.

    Since then, Jack and Falcon have launched Australia’s fastest selling beer, collaborated with Fendi and Louis Vuitton, have 2 million followers on Instagram, launched a podcast exclusive to Spotify AND star in their own TV show The Inspired Unemployed (Impractical) Jokers. Life, from the outside, seems pretty much perfect.

    In this Vulnerabilitea House we chat with Jack Steele about his fear of losing relevance. Extremely generous in his vulnerability, Jack opens up about his terrifying panic attacks, anxiety over not being productive; his ADHD diagnosis; and what it’s like to live and work with your best mate, while still trying to be, well, best mates.

    Jack, we’re in love with you.

    To watch this full episode on YouTube, click this link: https://youtu.be/xxAx0kOOAo8

    🎧Things to listen to:

    • Hamish MacDonald- How To Be You - https://bit.ly/4dhN8Ph

    📖Things to read:

    • ADHD 2.0 - Edward Hallowell - https://bit.ly/4dlE8IP

    📱Things to scroll:

    • The Inspired Unemployed on Instagram - https://bit.ly/4dDpdtm

    📺Things to watch:

    • The Inspired Unemployed (Impractical) Jokers - https://bit.ly/4fGD2Jm
    • Anomalisa - https://bit.ly/3Avx1il

    📋Things to do:

    • Maria’s Resilience First Aid Training - https://bit.ly/4dEYzQT

    👨‍🦲Things for hair loss

    • Hugh’s hairspray product - https://bit.ly/3yuh4ss
    • Finasteride (please note this a prescription product and should only be used after a consultation with your GP) - https://bit.ly/3WNw2BI

    The Imperfects is not a licensed mental health service and is not a substitute for professional mental health advice, treatment or assessment. The advice given in this episode is general in nature, but if you’re struggling, please see a healthcare professional, or call lifeline on 13 11 14.

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    Maria Ruberto - Advancing Despite Adversity Aug 11, 2024
    Show notes

    Settle in and grab your notebooks, you’re in for a good one.

    We’re joined by Maria Ruberto, director and founder of Salutegenics Psychology, who just happens to be Ryan and Josh’s (ex) psychologist.

    Maria is the co-designer of Resilience First Aid, an internationally recognised two-day certification program, which teaches the neuroscience of resilience (Ryan took sooooo many notes).

    We discuss with Maria the relationship between biology and behaviour, and the six domains of resilience. Getting technical, we delve into the negatives of screen time (hello darkness our old friend) and the ridiculously positive benefits of doing stuff with other people.

    So join us as we get started on building our resilience toolbox, practice breathing like a baby AND co-regulate like it’s no one’s business.

    To sign up to Maria’s Resilience First Aid training, follow this link: https://bit.ly/3WuhOFG

    To watch this full episode on YouTube, click here: https://bit.ly/3AvhAqp

    🎧Things to listen to:

    • Dr Emily - A Guide To Getting Therapy - https://bit.ly/3WSCF7f
    • The Academy of Imperfection - Ben Crowe - https://bit.ly/3MrxtRN
    • Gary Barlow - The Pain Behind The Pleasure - https://apple.co/4dzh356
    • Esther Perel - Let’s Be Better Lovers - https://apple.co/3Af9OB6

    📖 Things to read:

    • Stress Study: https://bit.ly/46A9bOB
    • Defining Protective Resilience: https://bit.ly/3SFBQfm
    • Resilience First Aid Evaluation: https://bit.ly/4dFRXll

    The Imperfects is not a licensed mental health service and is not a substitute for professional mental health advice, treatment or assessment. The advice given in this episode is general in nature, but if you’re struggling, please see a healthcare professional, or call lifeline on 13 11 14.

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


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