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    The Economic Club of Florida podcast

    Since 1977, The Economic Club of Florida has become one of the South’s most important forums for distinguished speakers on major issues of the day. The Club provides a platform for discussion to educate, engage, and empower citizens on important economic, political, and social issues. Major topics include the economy, business, investment, politics, public policy, government, education, entrepreneurship, healthcare, defense, space, and sports. New podcast episodes are published monthly. To learn more, including how to become a member, visit www.Economic-Club.com 

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    Episode 36: Florida State University Economist Dr. Jerry Parrish Aug 10, 2022
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    “Is Florida Heading for a Recession?” Florida State University Economist Dr. Jerry Parrish shares the probability and how rising interest rates, housing costs, and gas prices affect consumers before a July 19, 2022 meeting of The Economic Club of Florida.


    Show Notes


    Dr. Jerry Parrish is the Chief Economist and Director of State and Local Policy Analysis at the Institute of Government at Florida State University. He said Florida has two different economies: one with almost full employment with more than 600,000 open jobs, and the other with persistently low consumer sentiment.


    “Consumer sentiment is lower than what it was during the worst of the pandemic and you know, that's really unusual, with almost full employment,” he told the Club. “I watch that because it’s really an indicator of how people are going to spend their money. And you've heard all over the place that about 70% of the economy is people out there spending money, so if they have a poor outlook, that's certainly a concern in the future. What’s driving it is inflation.”


    Dr. Parrish said Florida weathered the coronavirus pandemic’s economic upheaval better than most states, recovering all its jobs by October of 2021. The exception is in healthcare and especially registered nurses. Thirty-five other states still don’t have their jobs back. Other economic factors he noted at play:

    • Since the pandemic, U.S. wages have increased 7.9% for people who’ve switched jobs and 6.1% for those who’ve stayed put, but inflation now is exceeding those earnings gains;
    • A survey shows 25% of Americans are delaying retirement due to inflation;
    • Falling mortgage demand because of rising interest rates and plunging homebuilder sentiment;
    • As interest rates go up, the dollar gets stronger and has now reached parity with the Euro. “That means that guy in Chicago who wanted to take his family on vacation my skip Florida this year and go to London,” or other European destinations.
    • A strong dollar favors those in the U.S. who import items, but for those exporters, “you may not be competitive anymore.”

    “People at lower incomes take the biggest brunt of inflation,” said Dr. Parrish, who also chairs the Council of Economic Advisers at the University of West Florida’s Haas Center. “If you're spending all your money on gas and rent and food, there's not much money left for fun stuff. The economy runs on fun stuff. If you're buying a motorcycle or a motor home, or taking a great vacation or something like that, that's really, really good for the economy, right?” he asked the Club.


    Dr. Parrish has maintained a probability of recession forecasting model for the past several years. One component is the spread between 2-year and 10-year U.S. Treasury bond yields. “The interest rate on a 2-year bond, which should be lower, is inverted now,” he said, noting it’s the largest inversion since 2000 and “a lot of the time, this signals a recession is coming on.”


    So, is Florida heading for a recession? Dr. Parrish said his model shows about a 67% probability, noting as well a Wall Street Journal chart he displayed for Club members that shows a historical drop in consumer sentiment “very hard and very quickly right before we have a recession.” On the positive side, “If we do go into a recession, Florida will weather it better than the U.S.,” he said. In his question and answer session with Club members, Dr. Parrish also explored the positive factors in a recession, including easing inflation and increased entrepreneurism.


    Links and Resources Mentioned in this Episode


    Dr. Jerry Parrish Biography


    Florida Institute of Government at Florida State University


    The Economic Club of Florida podcast, provides an extended platform for discussion to educate, engage, and empower citizens on important economic, political, and social issues. Based in Tallahassee, Florida, the Club has featured distinguished speakers on engaging topics of national importance since 1977. To learn more, including how to become a member, visit www.Economic-Club.com or call 850-224-0711 or email mail@economic-club.com. Date of recording 7/19/2022. © Copyright 2022 The Economic Club of Florida, All Rights Reserved


    Episode 35: Andreessen Horowitz Investing Partner Scott Kupor Jul 15, 2022
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    “Web3 and Cryptocurrency” Andreessen Horowitz’s Scott Kupor explains Web3, the next generation of the internet and cryptocurrency before a June 21, 2022 meeting of The Economic Club of Florida.


    Show Notes


    Scott Kupor is investing partner with the venture capital firm of Andreessen Horowitz (known as “a16z”), based in Silicon Valley, California. One of its funds is “a16z crypto” which has raised $7.6 billion to date to invest in Web3 and cryptocurrency startups. Kupor describes Web3 as the third generation and “future of the Internet,” and like cryptocurrency, it’s based on Blockchain technology.


    “It's really a new development platform on which lots of different applications we think will be built over time,” he told the Club. “The key distinguishing features of Web3 relative to its predecessors is that the platform is decentralized and open, meaning nobody owns it. Anybody who wants to be a publisher to that platform is able to do so and it's not really controlled by any central resource or big tech companies. So that freedom and that flexibility is what we think kind of is very attractive to developers in this age.”


    Likewise, the cryptocurrency component will serve as a decentralized, non-bank digital currency used for transactions on Web3 with the added benefit of being an investment in particular web applications, where users will gain appreciation from their early spending support.


    “It really creates an economic opportunity for those people who helped grow the network, who helped govern the network. And so it really creates an economic incentive that enables the participants to feel as though they ultimately can be compensated for the value they bring to the organization,” said Kupor, whose experience in the software industry and investment banking spans the dot-com boom and bust era of the mid-1990’s and includes the sale of Loudcloud to Hewlett-Packard in 2007.


    Kupor also discussed one of the more developed areas of Blockchain technology: “De-Fi” (decentralized finance), which he referred to as “an application in the Web3 environment.” It involves enabling software on computers to intermediate transactions instead of going to central clearing houses or institutions. “So this doesn't yet exist at scale. But over time, if decentralized finance is going to grow and live, it will ultimately have to replicate all of those individual functions that exist in the traditional financial system today…using decentralized platforms,” Kupor said.


    He also discussed the state of cryptocurrency today, including some notable failures in the news recently, such as Luna, and whether it will spur greater regulation. “The Enforcement Division at the SEC has done a good job, I think, actually rooting out quite frankly, bad behavior in the system. And unfortunately, bad behavior I think, is always going to be part of a new economic model. We as market participants do believe that an appropriate regulatory framework does make sense for these types of activities,” Kupor added.


    Kupor told Club members that this is “frontier technology” with new engineers and developers migrating to the environment. He advised viewing it as a long term venture capital investment with “10 to 20 year time horizons” in terms of monetization. “We’re very early on in this new technology. What’s we’re hoping it can develop into is phenomenal, world-changing applications, including protected personalized medical information that you can share with others.”


    Links and Resources Mentioned in this Episode


    Scott Kupor Biography


    Andreessen Horowitz


    The Economic Club of Florida podcast
    , provides an extended platform for discussion to educate, engage, and empower citizens on important economic, political, and social issues. Based in Tallahassee, Florida, the Club has featured distinguished speakers on engaging topics of national importance since 1977. To learn more, including how to become a member, visit www.Economic-Club.com or call 850-224-0711 or email mail@economic-club.com. Date of recording 6/21/2022. © Copyright 2022 The Economic Club of Florida, All Rights Reserved


    Episode 34: Florida Supreme Court Chief Justice Charles Canady Jun 16, 2022
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    “Florida Courts by the Numbers” Florida Supreme Court Chief Justice Charles Canady explains the challenges in trying to reduce a 600,000 case backlog from the Florida court system created by the coronavirus pandemic before a May 17, 2022 meeting of The Economic Club of Florida.


    Show Notes


    The 2020-2021 pandemic created a big challenge for the Florida court system in how to keep operating without placing court participants in unsafe situations. While the state’s appellate courts and the Supreme Court were largely unaffected thanks to the use of Zoom calls for oral arguments, the circuit and county court dockets were greatly impacted on the trial court level because of the inability to convene juries due to health safety concerns. Justice Canady explained that by the time the courts resumed full operation in June of 2021, there was a backlog of 600,000 cases.


    “Since then, we have been successful in an overall reduction of the backlog by 30%,” Justice Canady told the Club. “Some dockets have not done as well as others. We've got some problems on some of the (criminal) dockets. But on the circuit civil and the county civil dockets, where we imposed the aggressive case management requirement, we've had dramatic reductions in the backlog. In fiscal year 2021, the trial courts actually resolved more than 2.7 million cases,” he said, thanking the lawyers, judges, and court personnel who made it happen.


    While Florida is the third most populous state in the country, he said its court system has the fifth lowest number of trial court judges per capita among the 50 states. There are 935 judges, including the Supreme Court and the five District Courts of Appeal. Its current year budget of $667 million is seven-tenths of 1-percent of the $100 billion state budget.


    “I don't think there's anything wrong with being a lean system. It's a small percentage of our budget, as I said, but it's real money, and it's taxpayer money, and we need to make sure we get the full, effective use of that money,” Justice Canady said. “We certify judgeships if we think there's an additional need for judgeships.”


    Justice Canady took questions from Club members, including his reaction to the recent leak of the U.S. Supreme Court draft opinion that suggests the justices will overturn Roe v. Wade, which legalized abortion nationwide in 1973.


    “That’s a very serious matter. So far as I know, we've never had a breach of our court security. But it's absolutely essential that the deliberations of courts be confidential and not leaked… that's just corrupt justice if it's leaked,” he replied.


    Justice Canady graduated from Yale Law School in 1979. After private practice in Lakeland, Florida, he served three terms in the Florida House of Representative and four terms in the United States House of Representatives. He was appointed to the Florida Supreme Court by Governor Charlie Crist and took office on September 8, 2008 and was subsequently retained by voters in 2018 and 2020.


    The address by Justice Canady was also notable in that, in the audience, was a former Florida Supreme Court Chief Justice, Major Harding, who introduced Justice Canady, and the incoming Chief Justice Carlos Muniz, who will succeed him as Chief Justice on July 1.


    Links and Resources Mentioned in this Episode


    J
    ustice Charles Canady Biography


    Florida’s Supreme Court


    The Economic Club of Florida podcast
    , provides an extended platform for discussion to educate, engage, and empower citizens on important economic, political, and social issues. Based in Tallahassee, Florida, the Club has featured distinguished speakers on engaging topics of national importance since 1977. To learn more, including how to become a member, visit www.Economic-Club.com or call 850-224-0711 or email mail@economic-club.com. Date of recording 5/17/2022. © Copyright 2022 The Economic Club of Florida, All Rights Reserved


    Episode 33: American Petroleum Institute President & CEO Mike Sommers May 12, 2022
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    “America’s Energy Challenges in a Changing World Environment” American Petroleum Institute President & CEO Mike Sommers discusses the domestic oil and gas industry and how the Russian-Ukraine War and current policies on production and climate change effect gasoline prices before an April 14, 2022 meeting of The Economic Club of Florida.


    Show Notes


    The non-partisan American Petroleum Institute (API) is the largest national trade association representing all aspects of America’s natural gas and oil industry. It was founded in 1919 as a standards-setting organization, and has developed more than 700 standards in the oil and natural gas industry to enhance operation and environmental safety, efficiency and sustainability. Mr. Sommers told the Club that America must continue its march to energy independence.


    “In 2008, this country was producing about 6 million barrels of oil every single day. And since then, we've more than doubled that production. It's not because some politician came in and made the decision to do that. It's because this industry stepped up to the plate, discovered new innovations, and new ways to get more oil and gas out of the ground. And that has had such huge economic consequences for the American people,” Sommers said. “Unfortunately, we've made some bad policy choices in the last couple of years and as a consequence of that our production has gone down. If we get the policies right, we can get production back up and we can get prices lower for the American people.”


    Sommers said API is working with Washington policymakers to provide energy security at home, maintain U.S. economic strength, and protect national security interests, especially in these times of international crisis. He said the world consumes 100 million gallons of oil each day, of which about 13 million barrels are produced in the US. “But we consume about 21 million barrels of oil every day here,” Sommers said. “This is a global market. What brought prices to where they are now is a combination of bad policy, the pandemic, and lately, the war in Europe.”


    Sommers told Club members that it’s very difficult to see a scenario where the US will be able to produce what it needs, but could be energy independent with the help of Canada, which has abundant oil and natural gas resources. “So when we talk about energy independence, we talk about North American energy independence primarily,” he said.


    He also discussed the role that climate policy is playing. He has spent the past three years with API leading the adoption of the industry’s position on climate change, including decarbonization – helping reduce the planet’s “carbon footprint” from vehicle and industrial emissions linked to climate change. “Even if every country meets their Paris Climate Accord goals, half of the energy in the world will still be from oil and natural gas. Setting ideology aside, most everyone knows that the world needs oil and natural gas in a big way, and will for decades and decades to come. The only question is where that oil and gas is going to come from?” he asked.


    API also supports President Biden’s recent pledge that over the next six years, 65% of US oil and gas exports would go to Europe. “We are all for that. But in this case, the tools and the levers to meet the goal are held up by Washington DC. To get supplies on this scale to export terminals, and over to Europe we’ll need access to energy on federal lands, and the ability to build new infrastructure, such as pipelines,” Sommers said.


    He also said there’s a misconception that an oil lease is all that’s required to start producing, when there’s actually a long list of other steps and approvals that must follow. “The real problem here, as everything in Washington, D.C. is red tape. We actually need more lease sales and permit approvals onshore and offshore if we're going to keep production in line with what we know is going to be future demand.” Sommers said that includes developing a new five year offshore leasing program in the Gulf of Mexico to replace the current one set to expire in June. He also said that despite criticism, production is at or near its highest level in two years.


    “If America doesn't control its energy destiny, our fate will be in the hands of others,” Sommers added. “That alone is a powerful argument for increasing supply here in the United States. Energy policy does not have to be a series of endless crisis by crisis movements. Our aim should be to avoid crisis by shaping events instead of being shaped by them.”


    Sommers took questions from Club members about the nation’s Strategic Petroleum Reserve, private energy investment, clean energy alternatives, and the impact of hurricanes on oil production.


    Links and Resources Mentioned in this Episode


    Mike Sommers Biography


    American Petroleum Institute


    The Economic Club of Florida podcast
    , provides an extended platform for discussion to educate, engage, and empower citizens on important economic, political, and social issues. Based in Tallahassee, Florida, the Club has featured distinguished speakers on engaging topics of national importance since 1977. To learn more, including how to become a member, visit www.Economic-Club.com or call 850-224-0711 or email mail@economic-club.com. Date of recording 4/14/2022. © Copyright 2022 The Economic Club of Florida, All Rights Reserved


    Episode 32: China Research Center Founding Director Dr. Penelope Prime Apr 29, 2022
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    “US-China Economic Relations Revisited” China Research Center Founding Director Dr. Penelope Prime shares her updated analysis of the macro political-economic environment of today’s China and its relationship with the United States before a March 22, 2022 meeting of The Economic Club of Florida.


    Show Notes


    Dr. Prime is a retired professor of economics and international business at Georgia State University. She told the Club it was important to remember that the U.S. and China have had a long-standing good relationship with mutual interests as we enter a period now where both countries have more concerns about each other.


    “We’re in a new economic reality…where there has been diminishing returns from our continuing trade relationship. I would argue it’s really about competition over innovation, with diminishing returns from trade but increasing returns from innovation. Innovation is harder to predict and for some of the key technologies we are both right on the frontier. Some of the competition is really intense and some of those frontiers have military, dual-use as well,” Dr. Prime said, coupled with a "new political reality" of mistrust & competition.


    She’s been watching the relationship from its beginning. She was one of the first American graduate students allowed to enter China to conduct research after President Jimmy Carter normalized relations in 1979. Over her career, she took more than 400 students to China for study. Fluent in Mandarin Chinese, her past assignments include teaching economics at both U.S. and Chinese universities and the Ministry of Economics in Taiwan.


    Dr. Prime’s address included a “view from China” on how the country has rapidly changed in terms of freedoms and market reforms, how the U.S. has changed its approach to the Communist-regime over the years, and how she sees the U.S.-China relationship going forward in terms of what both countries want. “I don’t have any silver bullet…we need to keep the benefits of cooperation greater than the costs of not cooperating.”


    She faced some tough questions from Club members, including how an American democracy can deal with a dictatorship that uses subterfuge and wants to dominate the world. “I wouldn’t start with the assumption that China wants to dominate the world, I don’t think it’s helpful,” she replied. “Really where the story is, is domestically within China and we need to see how that plays out.”


    Links and Resources Mentioned in this Episode


    Dr. Penelope Prime Vitae


    China Research Center


    The Economic Club of Florida podcast, provides an extended platform for discussion to educate, engage, and empower citizens on important economic, political, and social issues. Based in Tallahassee, Florida, the Club has featured distinguished speakers on engaging topics of national importance since 1977. To learn more, including how to become a member, visit www.Economic-Club.com or call 850-224-0711 or email mail@economic-club.com. Date of recording 3/22/2022. © Copyright 2022 The Economic Club of Florida, All Rights Reserved


    Episode 31: Charter Communications VP Marva Johnson Apr 18, 2022
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    “Closing the Digital Divide to Create Economic Opportunity” Charter Communications Group Vice President of State Government Affairs Marva Johnson discusses the upwards of 2.3 million Floridians that are without broadband internet before a February 8, 2022 meeting of The Economic Club of Florida.


    Show Notes


    Charter Communications is a national provider of broadband, the high-tech network of lines that provide Internet, phone, and TV services to our homes and businesses. Marva Johnson shared her views on the current access and affordability challenges, their economic impact, and the public-private partnerships that seek to close the digital divide, especially for low-income families.


    “There are upwards of 2.3 million Floridians in rural and even some urban areas that are without broadband. They don’t have access to online banking, healthcare, and educational tools that have enhanced the quality of our lives,” Johnson told the Club. But that also represents an economic loss to Florida. “That cost is between $2.25 billion to $17 billion that could otherwise be brought to the state through greater commerce,” she added.


    Johnson explained that the reason for the digital divide is often geographical, as rural areas lack the infrastructure, such as utility poles to run the broadband cable. The Florida Legislature this session is considering proposals to create a framework to help expand broadband into underserved areas, including pole replacements.


    But she said there are also affordability and socio-economic reasons. The Federal Communications Commission set aside $20 billion, in part to provide a $30 monthly cable credit to low-income households, but has only spent $10 billion to date. “Charter is wiring one million locations across the country and we’ll spend another $3.8 billion ourselves in providing infrastructure and services to make it happen, so this is not a government giveaway,” Johnson said.


    Links and Resources Mentioned in this Episode


    Marva Johnson Biography


    Charter Communications


    The Economic Club of Florida podcast
    , provides an extended platform for discussion to educate, engage, and empower citizens on important economic, political, and social issues. Based in Tallahassee, Florida, the Club has featured distinguished speakers on engaging topics of national importance since 1977. To learn more, including how to become a member, visit www.Economic-Club.com or call 850-224-0711 or email mail@economic-club.com. Date of recording 2/8/2022. © Copyright 2022 The Economic Club of Florida, All Rights Reserved


    Episode 30: 2022 Market Outlook: Looking Through the Noise Apr 03, 2022
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    “2022 Market Outlook: Looking Through the Noise”
    BlackRock Global Allocation FundManaging Director Kate Moore provides a financial market forecast for the New Year before a January 20, 2022 meeting of The Economic Club of Florida.


    Show Notes


    The Club began the New Year with a timely address in January from Kate Moore, Managing Director and Head of Thematic Strategy for the BlackRock Global Allocation Fund. BlackRock is the world's largest asset manager, with $9.5 trillion in assets under management. Ms. Moore provided a financial market forecast for 2022, a year she said that is starting with a lot of uncertainty.


    “2021 was a really unusual year for asset returns,” she said. “There were only three other times in the last thirty years where stocks were up and bonds were down. We’re in an even more unusual place to start 2022 where both stocks and bonds are down. It’s not ideal. We forecast strong growth for the U.S. economy but it will be uneven at times and at a much slower pace than last year, simply because we’re not coming out of the depths of pandemic behavior,” said Moore, adding that she expects by year’s end that stocks will again be up and bonds will be down.


    She also discussed inflation, its impacts on monetary policy, and both supplier and consumer costs. “This is a really complex environment for monetary policy…markets stop panicking when Central Banks start panicking.” While some inflation is transitory, such as computer chip shortages and other sectors where demand outstrips supply temporarily due to the pandemic recovery, Moore said that core consumer price increases are not transitory. “The CPI (Consumer Price Index) is up 9.5%, groceries are going up 5.5% at this point, and while prices are going up, the volume of the product, such as cereal, is going down, so there’s less value,” Moore said.


    In this period of rapid inflation, she also addressed how companies are passing along costs to consumers. “Large companies are able to eat the cost but smaller to medium size companies cannot and have past the costs on,” she said.


    Links and Resources Mentioned in this Episode


    Kate Moore Biography


    BlackRock


    The Economic Club of Florida podcast, provides an extended platform for discussion to educate, engage, and empower citizens on important economic, political, and social issues. Based in Tallahassee, Florida, the Club has featured distinguished speakers on engaging topics of national importance since 1977. To learn more, including how to become a member, visit www.Economic-Club.com or call 850-224-0711 or email mail@economic-club.com. Date of recording 1/20/2022. © Copyright 2022 The Economic Club of Florida, All Rights Reserved


    Episode 29: Florida State University President Richard McCullough Apr 02, 2022
    Show notes

    “The Future of Florida State University and Higher Education in Florida” Florida State University President Richard McCullough shares his vision on building academic innovation that impacts regional economies before a December 1, 2021 meeting of The Economic Club of Florida.


    Show Notes


    Richard McCullough became the 16th president of FSU in August 2021 via Harvard University, where he had served for nine years as Vice Provost for Research and a professor of materials science and engineering. The first in his family to attend college, he shared how he combined his academic background with an entrepreneurial spirit, founding two companies and earning several patents.


    “I learned more in the failure of my first company than I did in any other schooling that I ever had. And so my second company, we sort of knew what not to do. And that’s really valuable,” McCullough told Club members. He discussed the synergy of his practical research background from Harvard and Carnegie-Mellon Universities and how he plans to build similar research innovation and entrepreneurship at FSU. The keys he said to “taking FSU to the next level” are increasing research dollars and expenditures, including hiring more tenured faculty, and growing the partnership with nearby Tallahassee Community College and Florida A&M University.


    “One of the reasons that grant money and research money is so important to the community is that these dollars circulate directly into the community if we build a strong research program at Florida State University,” McCullough said. “We will continue to pump money into the region in ways that you may not know about.”


    He specifically mentioned the National High Magnetic Field Laboratory at FSU, which brings in about $275 million from federal, state, and other funding sources. “We ought to be at $500 million, not $275 million,” McCullough said. Although FSU is ranked as one of the Top 20 public research universities in the country, his goal is to achieve membership in the Association of American Universities, a prestigious group of 66 universities with advanced research programs. He said he also wants to continue to grow the Jim Moran College of Entrepreneurship and formally encourage more of FSU’s 43,000 students to start their own business.


    Links and Resources Mentioned in this Episode


    Richard McCullough Biography


    Florida State University


    The Economic Club of Florida podcast, provides an extended platform for discussion to educate, engage, and empower citizens on important economic, political, and social issues. Based in Tallahassee, Florida, the Club has featured distinguished speakers on engaging topics of national importance since 1977. To learn more, including how to become a member, visit www.Economic-Club.com or call 850-224-0711 or email mail@economic-club.com. Date of recording 12/1/2021. © Copyright 2021 The Economic Club of Florida, All Rights Reserved


    Episode 28: Florida’s Chief Investment Officer Ash Williams Dec 23, 2021
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    “How to make a 29.46% Investment Return” Florida’s outgoing Chief Investment Officer Ash Williams explains the state pension system’s phenomenal returns and shares his keen insight on the present and future financial markets, before a November 4, 2021 meeting of The Economic Club of Florida.


    Show Notes


    Ash Williams, who shepherded Florida’s public pension system for the past 13 years before his own retirement last month, went out with a bang – earning the fund a 29.46% return on investment over the previous 12 months. How did he and his team of 220 professionals do it? Williams credited several factors, including robust public and private equity, venture capital, real estate, and other private asset markets, coupled with exposure to markets that appreciated most. But it’s also in the execution, he said.


    “Even if everything's going great, if you don't have the ability to properly capture the returns, you won't benefit from them. And we have an outstanding professional team of talented, experienced portfolio managers and many others who know how to get the job done right, especially in a public environment with a high degree of transparency and accountability,” said Williams, whose family has lived in Florida since the early 1800’s, before it was a state.


    As former Executive Director & Chief Investment Officer of the State Board of Administration (SBA), Mr. Williams was responsible for managing over $250 billion in assets including those of the Florida Retirement System, the fifth largest public pension fund in the United States, with one million participants. The SBA manages multiple investment mandates, including the defined benefit and defined contribution retirement programs and the Florida Hurricane Catastrophe Fund.


    Over the 13 years, the SBA had an annualized return of 10.33%, which is about 90 basis points (9/10 of 1%) ahead of target. That amounted to more than $15 billion in value added beyond what the markets provided. He and his team beat expectations, even in bad economic times, under their belief in long-term investing.


    “As institutional investors, a substantial part of our return is always going to be what the markets did in a given period of time. The reason is, we manage risk very carefully, and you never get too far away from the markets that are your primary drivers of return for the simple reason that if you make a huge bet like that, and you're wrong, you can do a tremendous amount of damage,” said Williams, who returned to the SBA in 2008 after working for private capital firms in New York City.


    He acknowledged that how the SBA invests is different than how individuals invest but said some of the same options exist in both worlds. "Don't start the pity party of saying 'I'm just an individual. I can't do hedge funds, I can't do private equity, I can't do distressed, I can't do all these countercyclical, pro-cyclical things that would be constructive in an aggregate portfolio,'" he told Club members.


    Williams also shared his thoughts on individuals facing a choice of using independent financial advisory firms versus traditional investment management firms. “I don't think you can automatically say that one is better than the other. I think the most important thing is the character of the individuals you are dealing with.” He stressed it’s also important to know how the broker or advisor is compensated and whether they are a fiduciary, someone that is legally obligated to put the interests of the investor ahead of their own. “That’s critical,” said Williams.


    Williams was recently elected to the Council on Foreign Relations, which he said provides a rich field of daily information on events all over the world – something that “without a doubt” has made him a better investor. “One of the things I've absolutely loved about my career in the investment field has been that what it's really about is understanding how economies fit together around the world, understanding how different companies in different industries’ business models work, which ones make sense which ones don't. And then fusing that understanding… into an actionable plan of where change will come and who's likely to benefit and who's likely to be heard.”


    Links and Resources Mentioned in this Episode


    Ash Williams Biography


    Florida State Board of Administration

    The Economic Club of Florida podcast, provides an extended platform for discussion to educate, engage, and empower citizens on important economic, political, and social issues. Based in Tallahassee, Florida, the Club has featured distinguished speakers on engaging topics of national importance since 1977. To learn more, including how to become a member, visit www.Economic-Club.com or call 850-766-9193 or email mail@economic-club.com. Date of recording 11/4/2021. © Copyright 2021 The Economic Club of Florida, All Rights Reserved


    Episode 27: NASA Administrator Bill Nelson Oct 21, 2021
    Show notes

    “Florida and the Future of Space” NASA Administrator Bill Nelson shares the latest on America’s planned return to the moon, a manned spaceflight to Mars, and his goals for the space agency, before an October 1, 2021 meeting of The Economic Club of Florida.


    Show Notes


    Bill Nelson has a storied career of public service to Florida, serving as a state representative, a U.S. representative, state insurance commissioner and treasurer, and most recently U.S. Senator. The Miami and Melbourne native, who flew in space as a Congressman, provided a glimpse into the future "gee-whiz projects" of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) while reminding the audience that “space flight is a hard and risky business.”


    In December, NASA will launch the $10 billion James Webb Space Telescope, the largest and most powerful telescope ever made. It will be positioned on the other side of the Sun pointing away from Earth. “It's going to look back and capture the life from over 13 billion years ago, the light that was emitted about 250 years after the Big Bang. For the first time we are going to see the formation of the first galaxy, the first sun, the first solar system, and planets. And we're going to look for an inhabitable atmosphere. And if we find it, we're going to see what it looked like so many years ago,” said Nelson.


    Florida’s Cape Canaveral was the birthplace of U.S. spaceflight in 1958 with Project Mercury. Today, the space industry in Florida comprises 17,144 aerospace-related companies employing more than 130,000 employees, according to Space Florida. Administrator Nelson discussed the growing privatization of commercial spaceflight and its impact on Florida. “We have a space program in Florida that has come to life. Old abandoned launch pads from years ago are roaring to life.”


    Nelson shared the numbers: In 2020, Florida spaceport operations had a direct economic impact of $2.25 billion in just sales on Florida's economy, not including the additional indirect impacts such as the supply chains and spending of all space-related workers. “You put all that together, it’s about a $4 billion annual impact on Florida. The economic indicators translate into good paying jobs.”


    His address came the same week as Governor Ron DeSantis announced Terran Orbital will invest $300 million in Florida to build the world’s largest satellite manufacturing facility in Merritt Island.


    Florida, Nelson said, is playing a larger than ever role in humankind’s return to the moon – and beyond. The largest rocket ever made is being put together today in the Vehicle Assembly Building at Cape Canaveral, as part of the Artemis Program, building on the legacy of the Apollo Program. “And in the Artemis generation, we go back to the moon, to learn, to inhabit the moon, to conduct all kinds of new scientific industry, to do manufacturing to learn how to live there in a hostile environment in preparation, late in the decade of the 2030s, we're going with humans to Mars,” Nelson outlined. Those new trips to the moon will include the first landing by a woman and by the first person of color, “that will represent the broad diversity of the diverse fabric of America.”


    Nelson said NASA is going to be the catalyst for the growth of the space industry. “We're going to learn how to take moondust, regolith to the scientist, and how to mix it with a compound and make cement and how to build habitats on the surface of the moon as we prepare to go to Mars.” Another program is going to launch probes to the south pole of the moon, where water in the form of ice is present. “And then we're going there and we're going to convert that water to rocket fuel, hydrogen and oxygen. And it's going to become the gas station very likely for the future spacecraft that will be in lunar orbit, developed, assembled and gassed up from the hydrogen and oxygen on the moon to go all the way to Mars,” Nelson predicted.


    From the next powerful telescope looking at mankind's origins, to quieter supersonic jetliners, and to the Artemis Program to take men and women back to the Moon and beyond - it's all part of a "healthy and vibrant space industry" with Florida at the heart of the exciting action.


    Links and Resources Mentioned in this Episode


    Bill Nelson Biography


    The National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA)


    The Economic Club of Florida podcast
    , provides an extended platform for discussion to educate, engage, and empower citizens on important economic, political, and social issues. Based in Tallahassee, Florida, the Club has featured distinguished speakers on engaging topics of national importance since 1977. To learn more, including how to become a member, visit www.Economic-Club.com or call 850-906-9226 or email mail@economic-club.com. Date of recording 10/1/2021. © Copyright 2021 The Economic Club of Florida, All Rights Reserved


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