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    The Dwight and Patty Show

    We are Dwight and Patty, as you might have guessed, two people in a. band called, The Wind and The Wave. We used to broadcast live internet “shows” while on tour, usually from a terrible hotel room on a day off. That show was called ‘The Dwight and Patty Show.’ Those odd little moments, almost more than any other, continue to be one of our most requested pieces of content, so we decided to jump into the podcast ocean to see if we could swim. This podcast is what happens when two bandmates talk about their experiences as artists and humans. For those who enjoy what we do, are able and want to support the show, you can do so at patreon.com/thewindandthewave.

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    Checking in From London Jul 09, 2019
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    Patty and Dwight coming to you literally from their twin beds in a hotel room. This tour is winding down. Patty’s mental health has been very good in comparison to previous tours. The shows have been incredible. Dwight toots his own horn a bit. Patty has been shopping and no longer has enough room in her suitcase for everything. Here’s a new and fun update… Dwight and Patty have been writing songs with Kelly Jones on the tour. They even went into a studio to record some of them. No idea what’s to come of that collaboration, but defo enjoying the creativity. Patreon appreciation! Patty reads a new reviews. (She’s way better at reading in her head than aloud.) Emails! (Dwight is yelling again.)
    In sound recording and reproduction, audio mixing is the process of combining multitrack recordings into a final mono, stereo or surround sound product… How does Dwight decide how to mix a song? Dwight is suddenly really hungry looking at Paul’s photography website… What do you think is the reason for the success of this project? Dwight has taken a page out of Bob Schneider’s book. Schneider is someone who fearlessly does whatever he wants, and truly does it for the sake of the art. Advise:

    “You HAVE to do what you think is the shit, and hope that other people think it’s the shit. That’s what art is.” -D.B.

    Dwight and Patty on the idea of “making it.” Have you ever really made it? Does the idea of “making it” devalue the musician who’s playing the local bar five nights a week? Also, Patty hates it when people say things like “ Your moment will come!” She doesn’t want to defend her career (because there have been several amazing moments along the journey), and she also doesn’t want to feel like she’s running a race or chasing some mysterious thing. Another email from cheeky, Johnny Jones…Dwight is going to fight him. What inspires your creativity more, depressing or happiness? Who has influenced you the most in your family?

    Thank you for emailing us at thedwightandpattyshow@gmail.com, and for reviewing us on iTunes, following us on Instagram @thedwightandpattyshow, and for your consideration on becoming one of our supporters on Patreon! Until next time…


    Checking in from Scotland Jul 02, 2019
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    An update from the road with some questionable audio quality backstage. Sorry, not sorry. Patreon appreciation before we jump into more emails... How has streaming music affected the artist? Spotify needs to allow artists to access their listeners... Has improv helped Patty? She was super terrified about the final showcase, but it ended up being really fun. She recommends improv, and would like to continue herself, but also has other new things she wants to try... Johnny Jones is a cheeky motherfucker... Dwight wants to know Patty’s thoughts on Miley Cyrus’ take on marriage, sexual identity and gender... and then makes her say nice things about him, and that’s a wrap.

    Email us at thedwightandpattyshow@gmail.com, review us on iTunes, follow us on Instagram @thedwightandpattyshow, and consider becoming one of our patrons on Patreon! Until next week...


    Last Episode Before the UK? Jun 25, 2019
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    Patty reads an excerpt from The War of Art by Steven Pressfield, a book highly recommended to any and all creative persons. Dwight reads a few reviews, and asks one reviewer to make a change. The bulk of this episode is tackling fan emails before we head off to the UK. Where can one support the band? Where can one find band merchandise? How do we record the podcast and get it to the people? Another business conversation ensues before Dwight and Patty share some of their Austin favorites. And more fan questions...

    Email us at thedwightandpattyshow@gmail.com, review us on iTunes, follow us on Instagram @thedwightandpattyshow, and consider becoming one of our patrons on Patreon! Until next week...


    You Can’t Grow From It If You’re Running Away From It Jun 18, 2019
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    Thanks to all the new patrons! Some supporters are currently enjoying three new songs we’ve shared on Patreon, one of which is our cover of Stereophonics’ “Dakota.” The tune actually already came out worldwide, but our supporters had it weeks prior! Tonight is Patty’s level 1 improv showcase, and she’s pretty nervous. She may want to take a dance class when we return from tour. Dwight has noticed her dancing on her socials. Patty is trying to embrace the sexy femme side of herself more proudly, like in a positive, self love kind of way. That may or may not explain all the new clothes she purchased for the UK tour. Dwight went clean shaven three weeks ago, and has been rocking the jean jacket lately. His son, Evan thinks he looks like a 20 year old boy, and for some reason he’s under the impression that is an insult. It’s not. Dwight does look younger when he shaves the greying beard. Should he shave it for the tour, or keep the beard look? Dwight doesn’t think The Wind and The Wave would have gotten their first record deal if he had walked into RCA at 40 years old with a greying beard. EMAILS! Jenny called Dwight wise, and has a question for Patty. “What role has religion played in your life, and how has it shaped your lyrics?” - “How has therapy impacted your songwriting? I’m a songwriter and I’m also in therapy, and a fear of mine has been that talking out my shit will be the catharsis that writing normally is, and will leave me with less shit to say.” THIS GIRL IS CRUSHING QUESTIONS. We talk about our Covers One album and how we approached making those songs our own. Another email from Colleen (who is doing this correctly) - “What are you most proud of personally or professionally?” …Patty needs to accept the fact that she’s good at something. That’s a whole conversation all on its own. MORE QUESTIONS: “What is your favorite piece of music you have ever worked on?” - “What did you want to be growing up?” - “Is there someone you want to work with? Do you have a musical bucket list?”

    Email us at thedwightandpattyshow@gmail.com, review us on iTunes, follow us on Instagram @thedwightandpattyshow, and consider becoming one of our patrons on Patreon! Until next week...


    Who wants to live in a world where Gladys Knight comes in second place? (Tom Desavia) Jun 11, 2019
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    This is part two of our conversation with music publisher extraordinaire, Tom Desavia, who retired for a bit after feeling uninspired and a little lost within the industry. His audiobook received a Grammy nomination, but the political climate pushed him into a dark place mentally. He cashed in some flyer miles and went to Hawaii on whim for two weeks, which seemed like a terrible mistake as he exited the plane in Waikiki. He actually did love what he did for a living. (Dwight worries this will happen to Patty if she ever hangs up her hat.) Desavia instantly put feelers out when he returned to LA, but the tumbleweeds rolled by and imposter syndrome set in. Lucky for Concord Music, Desavia was available when they needed to fill a roll that suited him to a T. Okay, so what is a publishing company, and what is their role in an artists career? Why does a songwriter work with one? Should they? What is a sync, and how can that supplement an artist’s income? The right sync can not only make an artist a good bit of cash, and can also give their music a bit of immortality that maybe it wouldn’t have had otherwise. So how does an artist go about connecting with a publisher? Side note: Art is NOT competitive -and- There is NO fast track!

    Be sure to check out Tom Desavia’s second book, ‘More Fun In The New World, The Unmaking and Legacy of LA Punk’ featuring about 23 authors from the punk scene writing about the era from 1982-1987. (Everybody reads their own chapter in the audiobook version which is wicked cool!)

    Email us at thedwightandpattyshow@gmail.com, review us on iTunes, follow us on Instagram @thedwightandpattyshow, and consider becoming one of our patrons on Patreon! Until next week...


    Writing About Music Is Like Dancing About Architecture (Tom Desavia) Jun 04, 2019
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    Fuck it. This episode’s guest is, among other things, one of L.A.’s seven natives whose audiobook received a Grammy nomination, Mr. Elektra Records himself, the bearded wonder of music publishing, Tom Desavia. We met this badass at the SONGS Publishing office after Patty’s publisher, Kasey Truman signed her back in 2013. Apparently the night ended in several shots. (I have no memory of that. -Patty) Desavia did not go to college. He took time off after high school to “panic and smoke weed,” 🌲and then caught a lucky break in music journalism at the age of 19. This was the late 80s, a time when magazines were actually hiring writers. Patty (journalism major) is clearly jealous. Desavia believes that press sells records. Do you read album reviews? Much like his experience in A&R, Desavia took no joy in being forced to be critical within music journalism, especially on records he never felt qualified to judge. 🖕Dwight has a real problem with anyone from A&R (at a record label), or publishing company asking him to change his work. Desavia takes on the role of a fan. He’s attracted to musicians that are naturally great at their art, those that already know where they’re going. What are ASCAP and BMI, etc? What’s the difference between writing royalties vs. mechanical royalties? 💵 At what point should a writer sign up with a performing rights organization? Is it essential? It was a long road to music publishing for Desavia, but well worth it. A lot of knowledge is going to be dropped in the next episode, part two of our conversation Tom Desavia. Young writers should tune in!

    Email us at thedwightandpattyshow@gmail.com, review us on iTunes, follow us on Instagram @thedwightandpattyshow, and consider becoming one of our patrons on Patreon!


    Overwhelmed, Kind of Angry and Slightly Therapized May 28, 2019
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    Dwight is angry and admits to having been a bit short tempered lately. His kids don’t want to come to the UK. WTF? We haven’t yet figured out how we’re recording the podcast overseas, but we’re trying to! Patty offers to help Dwight to alleviate his stress and long to-do list. Diving into more emails, we start off talking about our feelings around the upcoming UK tour. Someone is interested in being walked through the process of creating a particular song, and knowing why we decided to make certain changes along the way. Patty has a terrible memory for their songs’ processes, and how they came to be their final versions. Dwight admits to never keeping alternate versions of songs. When he makes a decision to change something, even something as drastic as the entire groove, tempo or key of a song, he’ll permanently delete things and move on. He recalls that Neon Prayer Flags was almost a country-like song. It’s important for us to be decisive. Luckily we both like similar things and we’re able to agree on decisions quickly. We have a new. acoustic version of “Human Beings,” and a cover of Stereophonics’ “Dakota,” (that some of our patrons have already), but we don’t plan on creating more acoustic versions of songs off the Human Beings album. Fun fact: Our song “AnythingFor You” was written for a movie, but another band took that slot. Dwight thinks it was Coldplay. We were going to get to more emails, but the conversation quickly turned to into a band meeting by mistake. Dwight is missing Patty’s Level 1 improv performance. Patty shares some ambiance she recorded while in Tulum.

    Email us at thedwightandpattyshow@gmail.com, review us on iTunes, follow us on Instagram @thedwightandpattyshow, and consider becoming one of our patrons on Patreon!


    We Can't All Be One Hundred May 21, 2019
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    Dwight is feeling overwhelmed and frustrated, and is having a hard time talking today. We have some new patrons to thank! There’s a crap ton of stuff both Dwight and Patty have to do before they leave for the UK at the end of May. Patty is feeling a good after her trip to Tulum, MX. She went to a full moon cacao ceremony with Rachel Musquiz, and apparently it felt transformative. Dwight says he does notice a difference, but is confident he’ll get his ‘grumpy pants Patty’ back soon enough. We’re so glad the emails are starting to roll in. Keep ‘me coming guys! As we go through some of these new emails, we discuss having compassion for yourself as an artist, music we’re currently listening to, things we like to do when we break from creating, and the shittiest jobs we’ve ever had.

    Email us at thedwightandpattyshow@gmail.com, review us on iTunes, follow us on Instagram @thedwightandpattyshow, and consider becoming one of our patrons on Patreon!


    Shame Poured Over Me Like Molasses (Chapman Bullock) May 13, 2019
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    We’re back with our buddy Chapman Bullock, who brought us Home Slice Pizza, setting the bar for all future podcast guests. Patty wants to know how does one value their own work. Dwight shares his own experience. Do you want to be a Motel 6, or a Four Seasons? Chapman shares how he increased his rates the more he learned and grew as an artist. He created the graphics package for the very first HD channel on his first job, and more recently, the title sequence for Jordan Peele’s movie, Us. It’s 90% who you know folks! Young artists should go work long hours around other artists before breaking out on their own. Dwight likes working in big studios around other musicians and “life.” Chapman concurs, working in a space where you can “shoot the shit” with other people. He currently shoots the shit and shares a space with Alexandra Valenti, a world renowned photographer with whom we’ve had a couple different shoots with. (We should have her on the show.) It’s interesting to think about art prices in terms of hourly wages. Dwight recently met a guy who does large portraits of people’s pets. Patty has a hand stitched patch of her dog, Tripp and it is a spitting image. (Will post on the insta!) Okay, now Chapman has questions for Dwight and Patty. He covers first records owned, first concerts attended, most important albums, inspiration, and more. Politics vs Religion in terms of conversations we’re willing to have. (We don’t have them though!) Patty tells the story of that time her dad chucked an Eminem CD out the window of her first car. We touch on the fact that people don’t listen to albums much anymore, and the idea of consuming music in smaller doses. We’re considering releasing our new songs in the moment while we’re really excited about them. What do you think about that? Let us know!

    Email us at mailto:thedwightandpattyshow@gmail.com, review us on iTunes, follow us on Instagram @thedwightandpattyshow, and consider becoming one of our patrons on Patreon!


    Sounds Like A Real Good Way To Die (Chapman Bullock) May 07, 2019
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    Patty’s improv class is going well. Dwight is working really hard on preparing the duo for their upcoming tour overseas. Thank you to our new patrons! There’s a new “High Roller” tier on our Patreon account. Dwight reads an email we received from Zop, Stereophonics tour manager, in a British accent. (Who is “Disco Dave?”) Fan emails are starting to roll in. Thank God! Will we release an acoustic version of the Human Beings album? 🤷🏻‍♀️ We’re playing a stripped down set at Stubb’s in Austin, TX on May 26 with Dwight‘s son, Jackson Baker opening the show. We’re also considering touring acoustically as a duo in the US. Are you interested in that? Email us! Will we do a track commentary for Human Beings Let You Down? I dunno, but that’s a good idea. Patty likes the new Missio album. Oh, there’s a new tier on our Patreon account. Check it out! #BBITW 👈 What’s that? Patty put on makeup for this episode’s guest, and our friend, Chapman Bullock, a handsome Art Director who specializes in design and animation, but is terrible at drawing? We explore his Floridian roots and early interest in skate culture, film and photography. Both of his creative parents encouraged him to go to art college, and he soon realized he could one day turn his hobby into a career. What is motion design? NBD, Chap “did a bunch of stuff for the Super Bowl.” He walks us through his process of deciding what projects to take on, bidding for jobs, identifying what the clients want, creating mood boards, storyboarding and more. The dudes continue talk around sports and Patty tries to keep up. Listen to episode 18 for the second half of our conversation with Chapman Bullock.

    Email us at mailto:thedwightandpattyshow@gmail.com, review us on iTunes, follow us on Instagram @thedwightandpattyshow, and consider becoming one of our patrons on Patreon!


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