The Divorce Survival Guide Podcast

Latest Episodes:

Episode 342: From Uncertainty to Clarity with Tamara Frankfort Odinec and Shari Joseph of My Next Chapter Oct 30, 2025

Show notes

I'm thrilled to welcome back two women I absolutely adore:Tamara Frankfort Odinec and Shari Joseph, the powerhouse duo behind My Next Chapter, an expert-led platform and community that supports people at every stage of divorce.

When they first joined me, the platform was just getting started. Now, they've built something extraordinary: a vibrant, growing community with nearly a thousand members, expert guidance across legal, financial, and emotional topics, and a new premium option designed to help you move from uncertainty to clarity.

We dig deeper into what's new with My Next Chapter and how it's evolving into a go-to resource for anyone contemplating divorce, navigating the thick of it, or rebuilding life afterward.

✨ If you'd like to watch the video version of this episode, you can find it here.

What you'll hear about in this episode:

How My Next Chapter has grown into a thriving expert-led community supporting people at every stage of divorce from "divorce curious" to rebuilding with confidence (2:30)
Shari's firsthand insights on navigating a high-conflict divorce and how creating My Next Chapter has helped her heal in real time (15:36)
The power of community and shared stories in breaking isolation, finding validation, and designing life intentionally after divorce.(18:53)

Learn more about Tamara Frankfort Odinec: Tamara Frankfort Odinec has spent the past 25 years at the forefront of technology and marketing in various leadership roles, most recently as the founder of My Next Chapter, an expert-led platform and community for people going through every stage of divorce. Tamara also founded and runs Monty Media, an app development company that creates innovative apps for adults and kids, leveraging new technologies. Prior to this, Tamara led successful entrepreneurial endeavors for brands such as Real Simple Magazine and American Express and served as Chief Marketing Officer of Flywheel Sports. Tamara lives in New York City with her three kids and is happily divorced.

Learn more about Shari Joseph: Shari Joseph is a global brand marketing leader with extensive experience in digital partnerships and social media communications. She is President and co-creator of My Next Chapter, an innovative content and community platform offering resources and support for every stage of divorce. Shari is also the founder and CEO of Smart Digital, LLC, a brand marketing and communications consultancy supporting clients across PR, social media, influencer marketing, and creative campaigns that build online presences and drive engagement. Before starting her consultancy, Shari was VP, Global Digital Partnerships at American Express. She drove the company's global digital strategies, starting with the very first tweet from @americanexpress. Shari lives in the NYC area and recently started her next chapter as a single mom of two.

Resources & Links:

Focused Strategy Sessions with Kate The Divorce Survival Guide Resource Bundle Phoenix Rising: A Divorce Empowerment Collective Kate on Instagram Kate on Facebook Kate's Substack Newsletter: Divorce Coaching Dispatch

The Divorce Survival Guide Podcast Episodes are also available YouTube!

My Next Chapter - Use code DSG to receive $30 off your first month My Next Chapter on Instagram @mynextchapterofficial

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DISCLAIMER: THE COMMENTARY AND OPINIONS AVAILABLE ON THIS PODCAST ARE FOR INFORMATIONAL AND ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY AND NOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING LEGAL OR PSYCHOLOGICAL ADVICE. YOU SHOULD CONTACT AN ATTORNEY, COACH, OR THERAPIST IN YOUR STATE TO OBTAIN ADVICE WITH RESPECT TO ANY PARTICULAR ISSUE OR PROBLEM.

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Episode link: https://kateanthony.com/podcast/episode-342-from-uncertainty-to-clarity-with-tamara-frankfort-odinec-and-shari-joseph-of-my-next-chapter/

Episode 341: The Angry Woman's Guide To Embodying Change With Arianne MacBean Oct 23, 2025

Show notes

Arianne MacBean writes, "Your anger is the spark of your inner fire." As outlined in her upcoming book, Tough Shit: The Angry Woman's Guide to Embodying Change, that spark is something every woman deserves to honor. This week she joins me for a conversation that's all about reclaiming that fire and learning how to channel it into transformation.

Arianne is a licensed marriage and family therapist in Los Angeles with a certificate in somatic psychotherapies and practices. We talk about the power of anger as a tool for self-knowledge, how the patriarchy taught us to suppress it, and why embracing it is one of the most radical acts of self-compassion a woman can take.

Arianne also shares how her background as a dancer and choreographer shaped her somatic therapy work and how tuning into the body allows us to uncover what's really beneath our anger: fear, sadness, hurt, and ultimately, truth.

This conversation is such a beautiful reminder that anger isn't something to fix, it's something to feel, follow, and transform.

✨ If you'd like to watch the video version of this episode, you can find it here.

What you'll hear about in this episode:

Why anger is powerful information, not something to suppress (3:32)
How somatic therapy connects movement, body awareness, and emotional healing (5:36)
Ways to use anger as armor and as a guide toward deeper healing (13:20)
The surprising history behind the phrase "tough shit" and Arianne's reclamation of it (19:30)
That there are men actually doing the inner work on themselves, facing hard truths, and learning to show up differently in relationships (34:35)

Learn more about Arianne MacBean: Arianne MacBean is a Somatic Psychotherapist, writer, and educator. She taught dance at the middle, high school, and college levels for over twenty years and was the Artistic Director of The Big Show Co., an LA-based dance-theater group. She holds a BA in Dance from UCLA, a Double MFA in Dance & Writing from California Institute of the Arts, and an MA in Counseling Psychology from Pacifica Graduate Institute. She works with individuals and couples to heal from trauma, learn healthy communication skills, and trust the body's wealth of wisdom.

Resources & Links:

The Divorce Survival Guide Podcast Episodes are also available YouTube!

Pre-Order Arianne's book, Tough Shit: The Angry Women's Guide to Embodying Change Arianne's website Arianne on Instagram Arianne's Substack

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Episode link: https://kateanthony.com/podcast/episode-341-the-angry-womans-guide-to-embodying-change-with-arianne-macbean/

Episode 340: Feminism, Divorce, and The Legacy of Judy Blume with Rachelle Bergstein Oct 16, 2025

Show notes

Judy Blume and feminism? Yes, please. Add in divorce… and we got ourselves a cool (albeit, a bit different) podcast episode this week!

I'm thrilled to welcome Rachelle Bergstein to the show, a lifestyle writer, bestselling author, and editor whose work explores the intersections of style, pop culture, and family. Her latest book, The Genius of Judy, takes us on an intimate and unflinching journey through Judy Blume's life and legacy, examining how her stories have shaped generations of women and girls while challenging cultural norms around gender, sexuality, and growing up.

Throughout this episode, we explore Judy's willingness to tell the truth when others wouldn't, along with her ability to normalize the experiences and emotions of childhood. We also discuss what her work continues to teach us about liberation, identity, and the messy, beautiful realities of life.

✨ If you'd like to watch the video version of this episode, you can find it here.

What you'll hear about in this episode:

Judy's groundbreaking decision to write honestly about divorce, adolescence, and growing up (1:58)
How It's Not the End of the World helped normalize divorce for children in the 1970s (16:10)
The feminist brilliance of Judy Blume's book Forever (8:30)
How the feminist movement influenced Judy's work (18:21)

Learn more about Rachelle Bergstein: Rachelle Bergstein is a lifestyle writer, bestselling author, and editor, focused on style, pop culture, and families. Her work has appeared in the New York Post, The New York Times, NPR, and more. She is the author of three books: Women from the Ankle Down, Brilliance and Fire, and The Genius of Judy. She lives with her husband and son in Brooklyn.

Resources & Links:

Rachelle on InstagramRachelle's SubstackRachelle's book, The Genius of Judy Blume

Judy Blume books as mentioned in this episode: It's Not the End of the World Forever Are You There God? It's Me, Margaret.Just as Long as We're Together Superfudge (part of the Fudge series)

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Episode link: https://kateanthony.com/podcast/episode-340-feminism-divorce-and-the-legacy-of-judy-blume-with-rachelle-bergstein/

Episode 339: Military Marriage and Divorce with Heather Sweeney Oct 09, 2025

Show notes

We're pulling back the curtain on military marriage and divorce, a world built on service and sacrifice but also one that silences and sidelines the spouses, most often women, who hold everything together while their partners serve. I'm thrilled to welcome Heather Sweeney to the podcast for this conversation, one I've been wanting to have for years. She's a writer, former military spouse, and the author of the upcoming memoir Camouflage: How I Emerged from the Shadows of a Military Marriage.

Heather shares what it's really like to build a life around someone else's career, the toll of deployments, and the barriers military spouses face when seeking support. We also talk about losing your sense of self, navigating a system built on patriarchy that's designed to keep spouses dependent and invisible, and finding the strength to step into life on your own terms after divorce.

Please know that this episode isn't just for military spouses. It's for anyone who has ever felt invisible in their own relationship or wondered what might happen if they stopped holding everything together.

✨ If you'd like to watch the video version of this episode, you can find it here.

What you'll hear about in this episode:

The unexpected ways military life might erode a spouse's identity and independence (2:27)
An inside look at reintegration after deployment and the obstacles couples face when learning to live together again (6:50)
The systemic roadblocks military spouses deal with when seeking support or counseling (11:22)
The weight military life adds to an already struggling marriage (34:29)
How some military marriages can thrive when there is solid communication and support (45:07)

Learn more about Heather Sweeney: Heather Sweeney is the author of the memoir Camouflage: How I Emerged from the Shadows of a Military Marriage, which is about her journey from being overshadowed by her husband's military career to rediscovering herself as a single mother approaching middle age. She writes essays about divorce, life as a military spouse, parenting, and women's health, and her work has appeared in The New York Times, The Washington Post, HuffPost, TODAY.com, Newsweek, Business Insider, Good Housekeeping, Healthline, and Military.com, among many others. She lives in Virginia with her boyfriend, two college-aged kids, and their geriatric Labrador retriever.

Resources & Links: Focused Strategy Sessions with Kate The Divorce Survival Guide Resource Bundle Phoenix Rising: A Divorce Empowerment Collective Kate on Instagram Kate on Facebook Kate's Substack Newsletter: Divorce Coaching Dispatch The Divorce Survival Guide Podcast Episodes are also available YouTube!

Heather's website Heather's book, Camouflage Heather on Instagram Heather's Substack

Military OneSource

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Episode link: https://kateanthony.com/podcast/episode-339-military-marriage-and-divorce-with-heather-sweeney/

Episode 338: Divorce, Money, and Self-Worth with Shari Rash Oct 02, 2025

Show notes

We are diving into one of the most challenging and emotional parts of divorce, money. Money is not just numbers on a spreadsheet; it is safety, freedom, self-worth, and often a whole lot of shame. Today I'm joined by Shari Rash, a nationally recognized financial advisor and money mindset expert. She hosts Everyone's Talkin' Money, named a Top 4 money podcast by The New York Times with more than 24 million downloads, and is known for turning complex financial topics into real-life conversations that help women claim their worth and build lasting wealth.

Shari does not give cookie-cutter "skip the latte" advice. She brings real talk with no bro speak and no shaming, helping you unpack old money stories, release shame, and step into financial confidence. She reminds you that it is on you now, and that that's a good thing. Take that power, understand what you have, and work with it. This conversation will help you build clarity and confidence to manage your money before, during, and after divorce.

✨ If you'd like to watch the video version of this episode, you can find it here.

What you'll hear about in this episode:

How to shift your money mindset and simplify finances so decisions feel less overwhelming (2:58)
Deep seated money beliefs that keep you stuck and how to challenge them so you feel capable and in control (6:12)
The first steps to releasing money shame and rebuilding confidence (13:17)
The subtle ways money shapes your daily choices and self worth after divorce (22:27)
Common money myths and the truths women need to hear in this stage of life (23:16)

Learn more about Shari Rash: Shari Rash is a nationally recognized financial advisor, money mindset expert, and the host of Everyone's Talkin' Money—named a Top 4 money podcast by The New York Times, with over 24 million downloads.

Shari breaks down complex financial topics into real-life conversations that empower women to own their worth and build lasting wealth. She's been named a 2024 Best Wealth Manager and Advisor Under 40 by InvestmentNews.

Resources & Links:

The Divorce Survival Guide Podcast Episodes are also available YouTube!Focused Strategy Sessions with Kate The Divorce Survival Guide Resource Bundle Phoenix Rising: A Divorce Empowerment Collective Kate on Instagram Kate on Facebook Kate's Substack Newsletter: Divorce Coaching Dispatch

Everyone's Talkin' Money Podcast Shari on Instagram Shari on TikTok Shari on Facebook Shari on YouTube

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Episode link: https://kateanthony.com/podcast/episode-338-divorce-money-and-self-worth-with-shari-rash/

Episode 337: SOLO Episode - How I Learned the Communication Skills That Changed My Life Sep 25, 2025

Show notes

If you've ever felt like you "just weren't born a good communicator," I want to stop you right there. Most of us are not born with these skills, instead we learn them, often the hard way. I know, because when someone asked me at my book launch, "Where did you learn to communicate?" I blanked and said I was "just born with it." The truth? Communication is something I studied, practiced, and worked at for years.

In this solo episode, I walk you through the communication tools that changed everything for me. These skills didn't save my marriage, but they did save my divorce. They made co-parenting possible (because he'd learned these skills too), built the foundation for healthier friendships and relationships, and became the backbone of the work I do with my clients.

This isn't about becoming perfect or never messing up, it's about learning how to really listen, how to be heard, and how to create connection instead of disconnection. And yes, it's a practice.

In this episode, I share:

How I learned communication skills the hard way
Why Imago therapy can be a useful communication model, but not a solution for abuse
The power of listening for feelings underneath words, not just the words themselves
How feedback loops, timing, and permission are key to being heard
Why I-statements, mirroring, and empathy create deeper connections in every kind of relationship

✨ If you'd like to watch the video version of this episode, you can find it here.

Resources & Links:

Don't forget to grab the free worksheet to help you get started with active listening, I-statements, and more. Download the Communication Worksheet Mentioned in This Episode at: KateAnthony.com/communicate

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Episode link: https://kateanthony.com/podcast/episode-337-solo-episode-how-i-learned-the-communication-skills-that-changed-my-life/

Episode 336: Breaking Patterns, Choosing Power: Dating After Divorce with Jennie Young Sep 18, 2025

Show notes

I'm excited to welcome back Jennie Young to the podcast. Jennie is here to talk about dating after divorce and how to protect yourself from getting tangled in the patterns you worked so hard to get yourself out of. She's the creator of the Burned Haystack Dating Method — a sharp and fiercely feminist approach to spotting danger early in the dating process, and the author of the upcoming book Burn the Haystack

In our conversation, Jennie and I dig into the realities of dating after divorce: from spotting danger in seemingly "safe" profiles to challenging the patriarchal scripts that keep women waiting to be chosen. Plus, we talk about shifting into the seat of choice, what it looks like to feel genuinely comfortable being single, and how these changes ripple out into raising kids with healthier expectations.

✨ Podcast episodes are available in two formats - audio and video! If you'd like to watch the video version of this episode, you can find it here.

What you'll hear about in this episode:

Jennie shares her origin story and the ah-ha moment that led to creating The Burned Haystack Dating Method (2:31)
The feminist philosophy behind Burned Haystack and how it flips the traditional "pick me" script (5:33)
Why green flags can actually be red flags in disguise: from love bombing to performative sensitivity (15:25)
The importance of being comfortable (and even happy) being single before re-entering dating (32:44)
What the "extinction burst" in the toxic manosphere means, and why starving it of attention is essential (35:09)
How to shift the messaging for our kids so they grow up with healthier expectations and values (42:39)

Learn more about Jennie Young: Jennie Young is the creator of Burned Haystack Dating Method, a dating method grounded in applied rhetoric and feminist praxis. It is designed to combat many of the challenges of dating in a market that is too frequently mediated by misogynistic and patriarchal structures. She holds a Ph.D. in rhetoric and discourse studies from Case Western Reserve University and a satire writing certificate from Second City Chicago. Her work has been published in McSweeney's, Ms. Magazine, HuffPost, and others and covered by major media outlets such as The New York Times, Newsweek, RollingStone, and others.

Resources & Links: ALL NEW: The Divorce Survival Guide Podcast Episodes are Now Available on YouTube! Focused Strategy Sessions with Kate The Divorce Survival Guide Resource Bundle Phoenix Rising: A Divorce Empowerment Collective Kate on Instagram Kate on Facebook Kate's Substack Newsletter: Divorce Coaching Dispatch

Jennie's book Burn the HaystackJennie's Substack, Burned Haystack Jennie's website Jennie's Facebook Group Jennie on Instagram

Episode 317: Burned Haystack Dating Method with Jennie Young Episode 325: They Helped Me Find Love—Now They're Interviewing Me About It! With Alyssa Dineen and Jennie Young

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Episode link: https://kateanthony.com/podcast/episode-336-breaking-patterns-choosing-power-dating-after-divorce-with-jennie-young/

Episode 335: Making Your Trauma Responses Work For You with Dr. Amelia Kelley Sep 11, 2025

Show notes

Podcast favorite Dr. Amelia Kelley is back on the show! Today we're unpacking something I know will resonate with so many of you: our trauma responses. Fight, flight, freeze, or fawn… we all have them. But what if instead of shaming ourselves for these responses, we learned to use them for our benefit?

Amelia and I get into what each response actually looks like day-to-day, why they happen so quickly in the body, and how to bring more consciousness when they show up. We also explore ways to reframe them so they can become tools that work in your favor: turning fight into advocacy, flight into creativity, freeze into stillness, and fawn into compassion and service.

✨ Podcast episodes are available in two formats - audio and video! If you'd like to watch the video version of this episode, you can find it here.

What you'll hear about in this episode:

The four trauma responses: fight, flight, freeze, and fawn (2:36)
Why these responses happen so fast in the brain and nervous system (5:41)
The role of naming and grounding in shifting your experience (17:47)
How to recognize your default response and bring more choice into it (19:55)
Using trauma responses in intentional ways, like boxing, cycling, meditation, or setting boundaries (38:20)

Learn more about Dr. Amelia Kelley: Dr. Amelia Kelley is a trauma-informed therapist, author, co-host of The Sensitivity Doctor Podcast, researcher, and certified meditation and yoga instructor. Her specialties include art therapy, internal family systems (IFS), EMDR, and brainspotting. Her work focuses on women's issues, empowering survivors of abuse and relationship trauma, highly sensitive persons, motivation, healthy living, and adult ADHD.

She is an adjunct professor in Psychology at Yorkville University and a nationally recognized relationship expert featured on SiriusXM Doctor Radio's The Psychiatry Show as well as NPR's The Measure of Everyday Life and 411 Teen. Her private practice is part of the Traumatic Stress Research Consortium at the Kinsey Institute. She is also a resident trainer at PESI offering continuing trauma-focused education to professionals.

She is the author of Powered by ADHD: Strategies and Exercises for Women to Harness their Untapped Gifts, Gaslighting Recovery for Women: The Complete Guide to Recognizing Manipulation and Achieving Freedom from Emotional Abuse, coauthor of What I Wish I Knew: Surviving and Thriving After an Abusive Relationship, as well as Surviving Suicidal Ideation: From Therapy to Spirituality and the Lived Experience, and a contributing author for Psychology Today, ADDitude Magazine, as well as Highly Sensitive Refuge. Her work has been featured in Teen Vogue, Yahoo News, Lifehacker, Well + Good and Insider.

Dr. Amelia Kelley's website Dr. Amelia Kelley on Instagram

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Episode link: https://kateanthony.com/podcast/episode-335-making-your-trauma-responses-work-for-you-with-dr-amelia-kelley/

Episode 334: Leadership in Intimate Relationships with Blair Glaser Sep 04, 2025

Show notes

New episodes are back! Blair Glaser joins me to talk about how leadership roles, yes, the ones from the boardroom, can help you become a better partner, communicator, and even co-parent during and after divorce. What it comes down to, quite simply, is using leadership for love.

Blair shares how her four-part leadership model applies directly to relationships in transition, including divorce and co-parenting. You'll hear how clarifying roles reduces tension, why creating a shared vision anchors you during conflict, and how to shift dynamics when relationships change. Whether you're navigating the emotional upheaval of divorce, stepping into a new co-parenting landscape, or preparing for healthier love in the future, this conversation offers practical tools you can start using right now.

Podcast episodes are now available in two formats - audio and video! If you'd like to watch the video version of this episode, you can find it here.

What you'll hear about in this episode:

How leadership principles can change the way you date, partner, and co-parent (2:38)
Why traditional models of relationships no longer work (13:46)
How to use roles intentionally to reduce conflict and anxiety in relationships (15:34)
What it means to fight well, and how to turn conflict into constructive negotiation (19:36)
The four-part model Blair designed for co-leadership in intimate relationships (21:02)
Why creating a shared vision matters most when co-parenting after divorce (23:36)

Learn more about Blair Glaser: Blair Glaser is a (recovering) psychotherapist, executive leadership coach, and organizational development consultant. In an increasingly technological world, she is committed to promoting HI (Human Intelligence), offering people tips and tools to master effective communication, relationships, and making an impact. Over the course of 30 years, she has guided women, couples, veterans, urban youth, and executives and teams (in nonprofits and Fortune 500 companies alike) to lives of greater freedom and enjoyment. She's been quoted in the New York Times, LA Times, Spirituality and Health, and other publications, and ran workshops nationwide at institutions like NYU and Omega retreat centers. She is also a writer with a memoir about living in an ashram coming out in February 2026. She lives in Los Angeles with her husband and dog-ter, Vanna White.

Learn to Lead in Love: Introductory call with Blair, Just for The Divorce Survival Guide Listeners Blair on Facebook Blair on LinkedIn Blair on Instagram Blair's Substack Newsletter

Episode 317: Burned Haystack Dating Method with Jennie Young

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[Encore Episode] After The Talk: How to Prepare for Your Divorce with Susan Guthrie, Esq. Aug 28, 2025

Show notes

New episodes return in September! In this final encore episode for the month of August, you'll hear part two of a special crossover series with The Divorce and Beyond Podcast. This episode picks up where my conversation with Susan Guthrie left off: how to have the most difficult conversation of your life: "I want a divorce." To hear the first part of our conversation, be sure to visit Susan's website to listen.

Throughout this episode, we talk about what happens after "the talk,"- everything from building your divorce team to understanding your options for mediation or litigation. Susan brings decades of experience and grounded wisdom to this conversation, making it a must-listen if you're preparing for what comes next.

What you'll hear about in this episode:

Why January is notoriously dubbed "divorce month"
The first thing you should do after you share with your spouse that you want a divorce
The biggest fallacy in the divorce process
How to find the best path forward towards mediation
Some approaches to divorce mediation and how to build a mediation team.
A reasonable expectation of a timeline for your divorce.

Learn more about Susan Guthrie:

Susan Guthrie, nationally recognized as one of the Top Family Law and Mediation Attorneys in the country, has been helping individuals and families navigate separation and divorce for 30 years. Susan provides online divorce mediation and legal coaching services to select clients around the world. As a leading dispute resolution professional, Susan is honored to serve on the Executive Council of the American Bar Association's (ABA) Section of Dispute Resolution as the Membership Officer and to be a Co-Chair of the Mediation Committee.

After a year and half of co-hosting the award-winning podcast, Breaking Free: A Modern Divorce Podcast, which reached over 3 million listeners, Susan recently launched her fresh and inspiring new podcast, The Divorce and Beyond Podcast with Susan Guthrie, Esq. which debuted on iTunes "Top Podcasts" List for self-help podcasts. Divorce & Beyond is focused on pulling back the curtain on the mysteries of the divorce process and bringing tips and resources to help people to thrive and shine in their new future beyond divorce.

Susan has been featured in and on media outlets such as CNBC, Market Watch, News Nation, Forbes, the ABA's Just Resolutions Magazine, Thrive Global, Medium, and many more.

She is licensed to practice law in the States of California and Connecticut as well as before the Supreme Court of the United States.

Resources & Links: Divorce Roadmap Focused Strategy Sessions with Kate The Divorce Survival Guide Resource Bundle Phoenix Rising: A Divorce Empowerment Collective Kate on Instagram @kateanthony_divorcecoach Kate on Facebook The D Word: Making the Ultimate Decision About Your Marriage

Susan's website Susan on Instagram The Divorce and Beyond Podcast: WE NEED TO TALK: How to Have the Most Difficult Conversation of Your Life with Kate Anthony

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Episode link: https://kateanthony.com/podcast/encore-episode-after-the-talk-how-to-prepare-for-your-divorce-with-susan-guthrie-esq/