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For nearly 20 years Trevor Hughes has been the CEO of the International Association of Privacy Professionals (IAPP). Over that time the IAPP has experienced rapid and exponential growth. IAPP makes us all better at our jobs every day. Trevor has become one of a few leading voices in the space and does so with razor sharp insight across all vectors of privacy from health to finance, adtech to AI/ML. And he does it with relative ease in an increasingly complex landscape.
Being a privacy leader/lawyer can feel like wearing sunglasses at night. It can be hard to see where we are going sometimes, can feel like we’re living in a privacy dystopia (see the video for the song).
In Season 2 of DPBC the theme shifts to 80s music and there is no more powerful 80s anthem than Don’t Stop Believin’ by Journey. This song brings to life the power we all have inside of us to make change in the world, fight in the face of adversity and drunk dancing at a wedding. It’s a great choice for our Guest Noga Rosenthal who has been one of the lawyers at the center of the advertising technology industry’s self-regulation movement for over 10 years. A privacy expert, data enthusiast, thoughtful lawyer, Noga is at the top of her game.
In Season 2 of DPBC the theme shifts to 80s music. For GC of Segment Mark Kahn, it’s the classic Whitesnake ballad “Here I go Again”. Kahn is known for jumping into complex tech companies again and again - and producing exit worthy companies like What’sApp and now Segment. He was a key contributor to the legal team at Yahoo and other companies along the way. He also helps run a bakery that has done a lot of good during Covid and is an avid bike rider.
Our guests are lawyers from prominent tech law firm Fenwick & West. Evan Bienstock and Jennifer Stanley. Evan is a Startup/Venture Capital and Corporate partner and Jennifer leads Fenwick’s copyright, games industry group, and co-chairs the firm’s digital media and entertainment, consumer technologies and retail industry groups.
We chose the 1987 movie Wall Street because the movie romanticizes deal-making. In reality, Tech companies, financing deals, M&A, IPO are incredibly unromantic. They are often just plain and simple hard work - especially where there are complex data issues at play.
This is a truly special episode as we chat with our really good friend Vivek Narayanadas who leads Privacy, IP and Litigation for Shopify. The 3 of us have had many adventures in work and in life. The 3 Amigos is the PERFECT movie as a theme here. Data Privacy and Culinary Amigos, defending the data subject rights of the villagers of Santa Poco from the evil El Guapo (CCPA?).
We’re joined by Alysa Hutnik who leads privacy and information security at Kelley, Drye & Warren one of the leading law firms in the US on advertising issues. Practice in this area can often feel like wandering a maze of regulatory rules, enforcement actions and nebulous provisions. Luckily Alysa is masterful at weaving through and finding practical solutions for companies big and small. Labyrinth has an incredible performance by David Bowie, so we discuss his music as well and potentially his makeup...
We speak with old friend Jurgen Van Staden a worldly, well-dressed data focused lawyer. Born in South Africa, he left to go to….Tulsa to play college tennis. Then on to law school and into DC and ad policy, Jurgen Van Staden has had a winding, twisting adventure, like saga of the Goonies. After a time at Facebook Jurgen is now at Verizon and is one of the top advertising policy and legal minds in the country. The Goonies is the theme here because the movie represents friendship, loyalty, risk taking and a rag-tag team, all themes of Jurgen’s work and life.
“Would it help if I got out and pushed”? Princess Leia (about Millenium Falcon)
Our guest is Carl Gottlieb the “GDPR Guy” based in the UK and a DPO to US companies. I love the quote above because it makes me think about both GDPR enforcement efforts as well as CCPA/CPRA potential enforcement issues. Regulators are strapped for cash, but need to be thoughtful about regulatory enforcement. Big platforms have infrastructure and money to resist. Often different parties wonder…”would it help if I got out and pushed”?
Pedro and Andy chat with friend Stephanie King at Twitter. They both love Twitter’s principled, belief in free expression and it’s a core value of Stephanie’s too. “Footloose” was the theme because there can be no dance bans! This is the story of a group of people fighting for expression. Stephanie believes in expression deeply and it has guided her on her career path and in her personal life.
Our Dystopian Privacy Future?
With the dystopian backdrop of Bladerunner, our guest is Professor Eric Goldman, an outspoken critic of the CCPA and CPRA. We go deep with Eric on the CCPA process, CPRA development and why these laws may not improve consumer privacy.
“I’m not in the business, I am the business”
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