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Justin has lots of superpowers. Yes, he started a privacy focused tech company and is helping it grow rapidly. And yes, he was a litigator and corporate lawyer at a large DC firm. And then he was Acting Under Secretary at the Commerce Department during the Obama administration, negotiating the Privacy Shield on behalf of the US. But, the most critical of his super powers is his ability to create a circle of friends, colleagues and people who just wanna talk shop and learn from each other. While he’s accomplished a lot, in his heart Justin is a guy that wants to connect good people, create useful tech, chat and learn over a meal or drink.
Gary Kibel is AdTech old school. He’s been in the privacy game for decades and has constantly stayed on top of changing tech, challenging regulation and new laws. He does it all with a sense of humor, kindness and warmth that all of this friends and colleagues appreciate. Video Killed the Radio Star is a classic 80s pop song that is a good mirror for Gary’s ability to adjust with changing tech and shifting norms.
Judy Estes has held a variety of roles in the legal leadership at Mastercard. She is a leader of teams with a practical business-minded approach. But, what really sets her apart is the ability to instantly see the bigger picture - her eye is always on the larger, more decisive business goals.
She is also not shy with an opinion, joke or decision (at Andy’s expense). She loves the song “Every Breath You Take”, a song privacy nerds loved to add onto their Twitter posts about their “GDPR Spotify Playlist” in 2018. For Judy though, it’s more about how she balances a busy family life with the rigor of leadership at Mastercard.
For our convo with Heather Federman, we turn to one of the great voices of the 80s, Rod Stewart, and his classic, “Forever Young”. This song has become an American anthem emblematic of the youthful vigorous spirit of the country. There is no more vigorous spirit in the privacy world than Heather. She is a force of nature and is working on some of the most complex issues in data privacy.
When you ask Shane Jacobs what his career goals are, he doesn’t say the normal things we hear so often. Shane’s goal is for the human race to be multi-planetary. Shane wants to see the world change via his work. Data has played an increasingly important role in space suit development. We will discuss biometric data and other data which inform innovation. He may wear a space helmet. Space Oddity is from 1969, but its such a good song we have to cheat here.
PE’s anthem Fight the Power is more of a personal descriptor for our friend Anjali Dahiya. If you are friends with her, you know that she does not shy away from anything and challenges old/antiquated ideas, actions of people/governments that defy sensibility and moral, ethical norms. She is a fighter in all the best ways we need lawyers to be fighting for people. Her career path has now taken her to a place where she can do a lot of good - Facebook Ad Policy.
Nobody puts Data in a corner
We saw the writing on the wall
There's no way we could disguise it secretly, data is everywhere
Data, Just remember
You're the one thing
I can't get enough of
But I've had the time of my life
And I've searched through every open door
Till I found the truth
And I owe it all to you
The GDPR was a watershed moment for global data privacy. Ashley Slavik who made her start in the early days of the GDPR. She moved from the US to the EU and has seen the connections and differences up close and in practice.
In her role as CPO at Veeva, she manages a lot of different aspects of data privacy and globally - a huge challenge. But the key is to face each new obstacle with the right attitude - remember, data is everywhere and privacy can be the time of your life.
We speak with Derek Zolner who leads legal at Centro after a stint at Oracle and many years in private practice. We will discuss the shift from litigation to commercial legal work and on-house counseling. Do litigators make good in-house lawyers and can they learn data and privacy? In this case, YES. We’ll also discuss Chicago as a town for in-house jobs, legal work and pizza. And the band Chicago who are just flat out EPIC and in the pantheon of cheese-80s rock. “Look Away” is how many people also feel about AdTech too.
In Season 2 of DPBC the theme shifts to 80’s music and no better song illustrates Danielle Sheer’s career than Queen’s “Under Pressure”. Time after time, Danielle has undertaken complex, mountainous challenges under intense pressure and come out the other side successfully. Her career defining moment may have been helping Carbonite IPO under massive pressure and scrutiny. Result was a big win and now Danielle has taken on the challenge leading the legal team at Bottomline in the maybe soon-to-be heavily regulated e-payment world.
In Season 2 of DPBC the theme shifted to 80s music and with Sachin, we turn to 2 of the Hip-Hop greats, Eric B. and Rakim and their classic track: “I ain’t no Joke”. With this song, Eric B. and Rakim told the world that they were serious contenders in the new world of hip hop and they went on to have one of the most illustrious music careers ever. Eric B. and Rakim are hip hop royalty. This song is a great choice for our episode with Sachin as he is privacy royalty. He is an ad tech veteran but his experience includes many other areas within privacy. He has quietly built one of the best resumes in privacy and he definitely ain’t no joke.
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