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    The Crypto Conversation

    Brave New Coin’s Crypto Conversation talks to the key people creating the Bitcoin, blockchain, and cryptocurrency future. Hosted by Andy Pickering, learn how this rapidly evolving industry is reshaping the world as we move towards decentralized finance, NFTs and Web3.

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    Sergey Nazarov - How Decentralized Finance goes mainstream Dec 31, 2021
    Show notes

    We're revisiting the best Crypto Conversation podcast episodes of 2021. Sergey Nazarov is the co-founder of Chainlink where he is spearheading the smart contract oracle revolution. In this podcast, Sergey lays out his current thinking on DeFi (Decentralized Finance), how it improves on CeFi, the role of oracles in decentralized finance, and the fast and slow cases on what is needed for DeFi to go mainstream. Sergey says "decentralized finance is the thing that people want. They just don't know that they want it yet."

    Why you should listen:

    Sergey says the recent Robinhood r/Wallstreetbets phenomenon has injected new realizations into society's collective consciousness. People are waking up to the realization that in the legacy financial system - they don't have full control of their financial assets and trading accounts. And they have seen that the ability of the average person to participate in a system that they were told was fair can be taken away by those who hold the power.

    Sergey says that in the financial world if enough people believe in something, it starts to occur. If enough people decide to buy GameStop stock, something happens. If enough people decide to shift from one platform to another, something significant happens.

    Social media, digital platforms, and decentralized blockchain applications make fast collective action possible in new ways. DeFi is the system that people want. Sergey thinks it is only a matter of time before this becomes self-evident and people begin to move to DeFi applications at scale.

    Key takeaway:

    Sergey says the increasing mainstream adoption of DeFi will happen through the search for yield and the transparency and control of one's assets.

    With fiat interest rates low and the returns of DeFi much higher, eventually, even the legacy financial system is likely to build interfaces that flow value into DeFi to capture yield. Everybody wants to at least maintain their wealth. And so any place where they can do that will become popular, and eventually, there will be a tipping point.

    Sergey says there is a slow case and a fast case for how this evolves. "The slow case for DeFi is what we're experiencing now, as unbelievable as that sounds going from something like 20 billion to 40 billion in assets in DeFi over the last month."

    This is the slow case as only about 2.6% of the crypto value that could be in DeFi, is in DeFi. The slow case will be accelerated by events such as Robinhood. "It's slow because there is friction to using DeFi, but it will slowly be accelerated through better and better user interfaces. Eventually, someone will figure out a way to just make it seamless for people to interact with DeFi, and the tipping point will be reached."

    The fast case is a rapid succession of failures in the traditional financial system. This will create a fear of counterparty risk and a newfound cynicism about the solvency of traditional financial institutions. This would lead a majority of people to seek alternatives even if there is still some friction in the DeFi user experience.

    Supporting links:

    Prime XBT

    Chainlink

    Andy on Twitter

    Brave New Coin on Twitter

    Brave New Coin

    If you enjoyed the show please subscribe to the Crypto Conversation and give us a 5-star rating and a positive review in whatever podcast app you are using.


    Anthony Scaramucci - Why Bitcoin is the Monetary Network of the Future Dec 28, 2021
    Show notes

    We're revisiting the best Crypto Conversation podcast episodes of 2021. Anthony "The Mooch" Scaramucci is best known for his short-lived, but very entertaining tenure as the White House communications director under President Trump. Anthony has had a long career in investment banking and he is the founder of Skybridge Capital, a global investment fund that has just launched the Skybridge Bitcoin fund.

    Why you should listen:

    Anthony says investors have a Eureka moment when they begin to understand that Bitcoin is a monetary network. "Just like there is a retail network, Amazon, a social network, Facebook, like there is a search network, Google. Bitcoin is the monetary network, and that makes it potentially very valuable. Think about where Apple or Amazon or Google were ten years ago, maybe that is where Bitcoin is at today."

    Key takeaway:

    Anthony says that Bitcoin is the only thing in our society right now, where if the demand goes up, there's no increase in supply. "When people want Tesla shares, there's a sausage factory in the back of Tesla. They're printing out Tesla shares. Do people want dollars? They're printing out dollars. If oil prices are going up, we're drilling for oil everywhere to meet that demand and produce more oil, but that can't be done for Bitcoin. And so that's the Eureka moment."

    Anthony says that President Trump was out of control. "He was a full-on liar. He added a trillion dollars to the deficit and his legacy will be that he made our country weaker, sicker, and poorer. He had malpractice on the pandemic and then on the way out the door, he tried to undermine our democracy."

    Anthony says that Joe Biden, "whether you like him or not, what does he represent as a pillar of Democratic party politics? He represents centrism. He represents core bureaucratic competence. To me this was a seismic change for good. Do I love the excess regulation? I don't. Do I love ponderous government? I don't. But do I like competent people in positions? I do. And so I like Joe Biden."

    Supporting links:

    Prime XBT

    Skybridge Bitcoin Fund

    Anthony on Twitter

    Andy on Twitter

    Brave New Coin on Twitter

    Brave New Coin

    If you enjoyed the show please subscribe to the Crypto Conversation and give us a 5-star rating and a positive review in whatever podcast app you are using.


    Axie Infinity & the play to earn revolution Dec 24, 2021
    Show notes

    We're revisiting the best Crypto Conversation podcast episodes of 2021. In this episode, we talk to Jeff Zirlin, co-founder Axie Infinity, a Pokémon-inspired blockchain-based digital pet universe where players can earn tokens through gaming. Players can battle, collect, breed, and build a kingdom for their pets. Like CryptoKitties, Axies are non-fungible tokens (NFTs) represented as cryptographically unique characters that can't be replicated. And like Pokémon, they are born to battle. While Axie can be just a game, it has built a strong social network, passionate community, and emerging jobs platform due to the play to earn opportunities it is generating.

    Why you should listen:

    Jeff grew up playing games like Neopets, Pokémon, and World of Warcraft. "I played so much WOW that my parents sent me to boarding school," he says. "I've always been a collector. As I kid my dad and I would collect fossils and insects. And as a lifelong gamer, I'm a digital collector as well, so I was predisposed to be interested in blockchain gaming."

    The blockchain gaming play to earn revolution started to gain traction after it emerged that a large community of players in the Philippines was earning money playing Axie Infinity.

    Jeff says "Most game companies sell in-game resources, items, and upgrades. With Axie there's an in-game resource that you need to create more Axies and it's called the love potion. So most game developers would sell this love potion, and people would pay for it. In Axie we don't sell it ourselves, the only way that love potions can be created is by people playing the game. Players who have big Axie collections need the love potion to breed Axies and have to buy the token from a liquidity pool on UniSwap or from Binance. So players can earn a basic income and we've seen that with the rise in value of ETH, this can appreciate significantly."

    Key takeaway:

    The power of blockchain games is that they're becoming more than games. They're becoming places that we can live, work and play. The eventual vision is to create a Metaverse similar to Ready Player One where people spend the majority of their time.

    "We believe in a future where work and play become one," says Jeff. "And we believe in empowering our players and giving them economic opportunities."

    To do this the Axie team is committed to aligning the incentives of the Axie community. Players can earn the AXS governance token. The token economics were designed by Delphi Digital. Delphi Digital has invested a significant amount of capital in buying several extremely rare Mystic Axies. If Axie Infinity continues to gain traction Mystic Axies will grow in value in the future.

    Jeff says "We're seeing the rise of Mystic Axies and other NFTs as a true asset class. This trend accelerated when Delphi Digital picked up some of the rarest Axies in the game, like quadruple Mystics, triple Mystics. You can think of Mystics as rare and valuable skins. It makes sense that there's a lot of interest around NFTs and it makes sense because we live in a digital world."

    Supporting links:

    Axie Infinity

    Prime XBT

    Delphi Digital on Axie

    Jeff on Twitter

    Andy on Twitter

    Brave New Coin on Twitter

    Brave New Coin

    If you enjoyed the show please subscribe to the Crypto Conversation and give us a 5-star rating and a positive review in whatever podcast app you are using.


    Merry Crypto Xmas - the market sentiment report Dec 21, 2021
    Show notes

    We're a few days out from Xmas and it's time for this week's crypto market sentiment report. Plus, Jack Dorsey is not a fan of Web3. Why not?

    Why you should listen:

    As we move into the Xmas period Bitcoin is holding steady at just under $50,000 with ETH just over $4,000. The market is in a cooling-off period for now. Meanwhile, on Crypto Twitter, Jack Dorsey and Elon Musk are ruffling feathers with their takes on Web3.

    Supporting links:

    Prime XBT

    Andy on Twitter

    Brave New Coin on Twitter

    Brave New Coin

    If you enjoyed the show please subscribe to the Crypto Conversation and give us a 5-star rating and a positive review in whatever podcast app you are using.


    The Money Game - How to make money, how to keep money Dec 19, 2021
    Show notes

    Andrew Cordle is an American entrepreneur, wealth strategist, and in-demand speaker. Andrew is the founder and CEO of Money Is, a company and show dedicated to sharing the secrets of the wealthy 1% and sparking authentic conversations about money.

    Why you should listen:

    Andrew Cordle is an acclaimed author and international speaker, and host of the Money Is show where he hosts today's leaders and influencers in authentic conversations about money. He has interviewed hundreds of experts, including Kevin O'Leary, Gary Vaynerchuck, and Grant Cardone. Andrew also contributes as a partner in a multi-billion dollar enterprise; made up of twenty-three current companies. One of which is a real estate development with a portfolio of over 1.5 Billion. Passionate about the benefits of mentorship in business, he founded Power Room, a CEO mastermind where today's top thought leaders combine forces to help teach entrepreneurs how to achieve success. Andrew is an enthusiastic crypto investor and trader of NFTs.

    Supporting links:

    Prime XBT

    Andrew Cordle

    Andy on Twitter

    Brave New Coin on Twitter

    Brave New Coin

    If you enjoyed the show please subscribe to the Crypto Conversation and give us a 5-star rating and a positive review in whatever podcast app you are using.


    Party Time - Party Bears bring the party to the metaverse Dec 16, 2021
    Show notes

    Aaron McDonald and Brooke Howard-Smith are leading the teams behind some of 2021's biggest NFT projects. Fluf World, Altered State Machine, Thingies, and now, Party Bears… a pack of loose unit DJs about to bring the party to the metaverse…

    Why you should listen:

    2021 was the year NFTs went mainstream. Andy, Aaron, and Brooke reflect on a huge year and look at what happens next for Fluf World, Party Bears, and the wider web3 ecosystem.

    Supporting links:

    Prime XBT

    Party Bears

    Andy on Twitter

    Brave New Coin on Twitter

    Brave New Coin

    If you enjoyed the show please subscribe to the Crypto Conversation and give us a 5-star rating and a positive review in whatever podcast app you are using.


    Easy Crypto - Vault Digital Funds bring Bitcoin to the mainstream Dec 15, 2021
    Show notes

    Janine Grainger is the CEO and co-founder of Easy Crypto, a New Zealand-based digital currency retailer, and Vault International Bitcoin Fund (VIBF) a New Zealand-based Portfolio Investment Entity (PIE) Fund that provides investors with exposure to offshore listed Bitcoin funds and ETFs.

    Why you should listen:

    Vault Digital Funds Limited was founded in 2021 in partnership with Easy Crypto, New Zealand's largest cryptocurrency brokerage. The Vault International Bitcoin Fund (VIBF) is the first digital asset fund to be launched under the Vault Digital Funds registered scheme. VIBF is a New Zealand-based Portfolio Investment Entity (PIE) Fund that provides investors with exposure to offshore listed Bitcoin funds and ETFs, taxed under the FDR methodology.

    Investors can gain exposure to digital assets investing without the challenges of buying, storing, and safekeeping digital currencies directly. The Vault International Bitcoin Fund is a Multi-rate Portfolio Investment Entity (PIE) that will be taxed in accordance with the Fair Dividend Rate method. Given the PIE fund will own fund(s) listed on an offshore exchange, the underlying investment will be treated as a global equity for tax purposes.

    In effect, this means there is no capital gains tax on any gains made on the VIBF. There will be an annual "deemed" dividend of 5% per annum, and investors would pay a maximum of 28% of tax on that 5% dividend, so an effective maximum tax rate of 1.4%pa.

    Supporting links:

    Prime XBT

    Easy Crypto

    Vault Digital Funds

    Andy on Twitter

    Brave New Coin on Twitter

    Brave New Coin

    If you enjoyed the show please subscribe to the Crypto Conversation and give us a 5-star rating and a positive review in whatever podcast app you are using.


    Rekt Capital returns - is the bull market over? Dec 13, 2021
    Show notes

    Rekt Capital, a Forbes featured crypto technical analyst and trader returns to the Crypto Conversation. With Bitcoin dumping to $46,000 REKT and Andy discuss the current market conditions - is the bull market over?

    Why you should listen:

    December has failed to live up to the bulls' expectations with Bitcoin dropping to $46,000 and bear sentiment growing. With Bitcoin hashrate at an all-time high and the liquid BTC supply on exchanges dropping, is it too soon to get bearish? Rekt suggests we may have to enter a consolidation period before an eventual resumption of the BTC uptrend.

    Supporting links:

    Prime XBT

    Rekt Capital

    Andy on Twitter

    Brave New Coin on Twitter

    Brave New Coin

    If you enjoyed the show please subscribe to the Crypto Conversation and give us a 5-star rating and a positive review in whatever podcast app you are using.


    Degen Data - Building analytics for NFTs and Options Trading Dec 12, 2021
    Show notes

    Pat Doyle is the co-founder of Pink Swan Trading, the holding company of Genesis Volatility and Degen Data. The former caters for sophisticated options traders while the latter provides analysis of NFT projects.

    Why you should listen:

    Genesis Volatility is an institutional-grade crypto analytics platform, providing live statistics, historical data, DeFi analytics, and API solutions for traders, investors, and speculators alike. Genesis provides detailed information to help identify opportunities and mitigate risk in the booming crypto options market.

    Degen Data is a data lab for NFT projects. The platform will be put up for sale in the medium term. The platform will come with an associated Crypto Punk.

    Supporting links:

    Prime XBT

    Genesis Volatility

    Degen Data

    Andy on Twitter

    Brave New Coin on Twitter

    Brave New Coin

    If you enjoyed the show please subscribe to the Crypto Conversation and give us a 5-star rating and a positive review in whatever podcast app you are using.


    Bitcoin Dumps - Is the Bull Market Over? Dec 06, 2021
    Show notes

    On Friday Bitcoin dropped 25% in one day, one of the steepest drops since March 2020. With the market sentiment now in extreme fear, is the bull market over?

    Why you should listen:

    The Bitcoin stock to flow model is in danger of being invalidated, $100K targets for December are off the table. There seems to be an increasing acceptance that clear bear and bull market cycles may be a thing of the past. As bitcoin matures into a mature, liquid asset, we may see diminishing returns eth faster bull and bear peaks and troughs.

    Supporting links:

    Prime XBT

    Andy on Twitter

    Brave New Coin on Twitter

    Brave New Coin

    If you enjoyed the show please subscribe to the Crypto Conversation and give us a 5-star rating and a positive review in whatever podcast app you are using.


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