The Cone of Shame Veterinary Podcast

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COS - 167 - Referral Battles When Everyone Is Overwhelmed Oct 27, 2022

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Dr. Tannetje' Crocker, a practicing emergency room veterinarian and social media personality joins Dr. Andy Roark to discuss how work overwhelm is pitting emergency vets and general practitioners against each other.

ABOUT OUR GUEST: Dr. Tannetje’ Crocker is a 2009 graduate from the Texas A&M University College of Veterinary Medicine. She is passionate about mentorship and empowering veterinary professionals to embrace the profession and find joy and success. Growing up Dr. Crocker competed on horses and was inspired to become a veterinarian. Since graduation she has worked as an equine ambulatory vet, small animal general practitioner, and emergency veterinarian. She currently lives in Texas with her spirited 10 year old daughter, funny 6 year old son, and supportive husband of 16 years. She works as an ER Veterinarian for Veterinary Emergency Group in Dallas, TX. Recently she was excited to purchase Alta Vista Animal Hospital in Fort Worth, TX. She plans to continue her support of fellow veterinary professionals, both virtually and in person through her various endeavors. Follow her veterinary journey @dr.tannetje.crocker or www.drcrockerpetvet.com

COS - 166 - Domestic Violence, Veterinary Medicine And The Purple Leash Project Oct 20, 2022

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Dr. Traci Zager joins the podcast to talk about the role pets can play in domestic violence and keeping people in dangerous places. She discusses how animal abuse and domestic abuse are often linked, the Purple Leash Project and how initiatives like these can aid people seeking shelter from domestic violence. She talks about what every veterinary professional should know, and how we can use our knowledge and skills to make a difference in our own communities.

LINKS: The Purple Leash Project: https://redrover.org/the-purple-leash-project/ Red Rover: https://redrover.org/ OVMA Education Resources (Animal Abuse): https://www.ohiovma.org/veterinarians/resources/abuse.html Safe Place For Pets: https://www.safeplacepets.org/ National Link Coalition: https://nationallinkcoalition.org/ Domestic Violence Hotline: 800-799-7233

ABOUT OUR GUEST: Dr. Traci Zager received her B.S. in Biology with Chemistry minor from California University of Pennsylvania. She then completed her MBA from Youngstown State University and her Doctorate of Veterinary Medicine from The Ohio State University. After graduation, she worked as a small animal and exotics veterinarian in Northeast Ohio before joining Nestlé Purina PetCare as a full time Veterinary Communications Manager in 2021. In addition to small animal medicine and nutrition, Traci has special interests in companion animal behavior and education. She currently teaches courses online to veterinary technician students at her Alma Mater CalU of PA, as well as continuing to practice small animal/exotics medicine on the weekend. Dr. Zager also served on the Animal Abuse Reporting Taskforce for the Ohio VMA, which helped to create educational materials on abuse reporting for Ohio Veterinarians. This taskforce was so important because legislation was recently passed to make Ohio a mandatory reporting state for all veterinarians. Dr. Zager also occasionally helps her local AWL with abuse cases. Fun fact: Dr. Traci Zager is a new mom of a beautiful little boy named Jameson Henry Zager!

COS - 165 - 6 M's Of Treating Any Behavior Disorder In Practice Oct 13, 2022

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Dr. Amy Pike joins the podcast to discuss behavior screening in general practice! Dr. Pike was recommended by multiple listeners to the podcast because of her lecture The 6 M's of Treating and Behavior Disorder in Practice. One listener even said the lecture helped their practice become better equipped to handle or rear behavior cases! The 6 M's are: 1) Medical Rule Out 2) Mental Enrichment 3) Management 4) Modification of behavior 5 Medications and Products 6) Monitor and Modify the Plan

LINKS: Links to Amazon.com are affiliate links and help support the show. (They're also much smaller than normal links and easier to copy when typing up show notes!) Kong Products: https://www.kongcompany.com/ Doc & Phoebe's Indoor Hunting Cat Feeder: https://amzn.to/3R9Dnr2 Blackwell's Five-Minute Veterinary Consult Clinical Companion: Canine and Feline Behavior - https://amzn.to/3R6Vhuj Decoding Your Cat: https://amzn.to/3wrD4Qe Decoding Your Dog: https://amzn.to/3pKVA2p

ABOUT OUR GUEST: Dr. Pike is a native Arizonan and graduated from Colorado State University’s school of veterinary medicine in 2003. Working as an Army veterinarian after graduation and taking care of the Military Working Dogs returning from deployment spurred her interests in behavior medicine. Dr. Pike completed a Residency program and became board certified in 2015. She is owner of the Animal Behavior Wellness Center and was recently named one of the “Top Veterinarians of Northern Virginia” by NoVa Magazine for the sixth year in a row. Dr. Pike speaks all over the world about veterinary behavior medicine, she has been published in numerous veterinary journals, she has conducted and published two scientific research studies, and is a contributing author in five clinical text books. She mentors 4 clinical behavior residents and is a clinical instructor for E-training for dogs and the Masters Program in Applied Animal Behavior at Virginia Tech. She is an advisory board member for Royal Canin, Fear Free, and the Animal Welfare League of Arlington, and is a consultant for Chewy, Inc. In her (fairly non-existent) spare time, she enjoys gardening and hanging out with her active-duty Army husband of 20 years, their 14 yr old daughter, and 9 yr old son, and their menagerie- Dobby (6 yr old Devon Rex), Ike (4 yr old Giant Schnauzer), Scooby (2 yr old, Mini schnauzer), Ginny (10 month old Airedale), Prickles (1 yr old Hedge Hog) and Pavlov (16 week old Indian Ringneck Parakeet).

COS - 164 - Private Equity, Rising Wages & Affordable Care Understanding Modern Veterinary Economics Oct 06, 2022

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Economist Matt Salois, Ph.D. joins Dr. Andy Roark to discuss the driving economic forces in the veterinary profession today. They discuss the impact of corporatization across the profession, how private equity is changing the way practices operate, and how buying practices at ridiculously high prices is supposed to pay off in profits. They also discuss rising wages in the profession (which are good!) and rising costs to pet owners (which are bad!). Will the price of veterinary services really DOUBLE in 7-10 years? What can we do to prevent that? Let's get into this episode!

LINKS: Good News: There's a Labor Shortage: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/04/opinion/labor-shortage-biden-covid.html The Pinched Hose Economy: https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2022/08/weve-never-had-an-economy-like-this/671105/ Inside Economics Podcast: https://www.moodys.com/web/en/us/about/insights/podcasts/moodys-talks-inside-economics.html Matt Salois on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/msalois

ABOUT OUR GUEST: Matthew Salois, PhD is currently the President of the Veterinary Study Groups, Inc. (VSG), where he is responsible for enhancing the economic and cultural success of more than 1,800 veterinary member practices. Most recently, Matt was the chief economist and head of the veterinary economics division at the AVMA between 2018 and 2022, where he applied his skills in economics, business, and communication to support the daily lives of veterinarians. From 2014 to 2018, he served as director of global scientific affairs and policy at Elanco Animal Health, supervising a team of scientists in veterinary medicine, human medicine, animal welfare, economics and sustainability. His group devised and executed scientific engagement strategy, and built collaborative partnerships with universities, non-profit associations and scientific societies. Matt is also an adjunct professor of applied economics at the University of Florida, where he previously taught and advised graduate and undergraduate students. He earned his Ph.D. in Applied Economics from the University of Florida and holds an M.A. in Economics and a B.S. in Health Services Administration from the University of Central Florida.

COS - 163 - Itty Bitty Kitty Anesthesia & Analgesia (HDYTT) Sep 29, 2022

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Tasha McNerney CVT CVPP discusses best practices for anesthesia and pain control in a 0.8lb kitten. These cases are tricky and Tasha lays out why as well as what we can do to reduce the risk and decrease pain and discomfort of our patient. Tasha and Andy talk through the importance of maintaining cardiac outflow, O2 therapy, blood glucose monitoring, and thermoregulation. Anticholinergics and fasting protocols are also discussed. This is a FANTASTIC and short episode that is packed with clinical pearls. You won't want to miss it!

LINKS: Veterinary Anesthesia Nerds: http://www.veterinaryanesthesianerds.com

ABOUT OUR GUEST: Tasha McNerney obtained her CVT in 2005 and has worked clinically in the areas of anesthesia and surgery ever since. Tasha obtained her CVPP (certified veterinary pain practitioner) designation in 2013 and became a veterinary technician specialist in anesthesia in 2015. Tasha has been a featured speaker on various anesthesia and pain management topics at several international veterinary conferences. Tasha is the author of many articles and blogs on anesthesia and pain management related topics. In 2013 Tasha created the Facebook group Veterinary Anesthesia Nerds, which has over 65,000 members taking part in education and exchange of ideas from all over the world! Tasha is crazy and bought a 1920's fixer upper and is now obsessed with home improvement tutorials on YouTube. She lives in Philadelphia with her husband, son, one perfect cat, and one jerk cat. Trust me that cat is a jerk.

COS - 162 - Feline Lower Urinary Tract Disease (HDYTT) Sep 26, 2022

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Dr. Lauren Pagliughi joins Dr. Andy Roark to discuss a case that is oh-so-common in veterinary medicine, and oh-so-likely to end badly for feline patients! They are talking about Feline Lower Urinary Tract Disease (FLUTD). They discuss the importance of environmental questions for pet owners, diagnostics (including radiographs), and responsible approaches to treatment in regard to antibiotic use. Let's get into it! This episode is made possible by Purina Pro Plan Veterinary Diets

LINKS: Purina Institute CentreSquare: https://www.purinaproplanvets.com/ Indoor Pet Initiative (cats): https://indoorpet.osu.edu/cats Dr. Andy Roark Exam Room Communication Tool Box Course: https://drandyroark.com/store/ What’s on my Scrubs?! Card Game: https://drandyroark.com/training-tools/ Dr. Andy Roark Swag: drandyroark.com/shop All Links: linktr.ee/DrAndyRoark

ABOUT OUR GUEST: Dr. Lauren Pagliughi attended Rutgers University for her bachelors of arts and obtained her veterinary degree from Colorado State University. Upon graduation, she completed an internship in Small Animal Medicine and Surgery at Oradell Animal Hospital in NJ. She then joined Absecon Veterinary Hospital, a large general practice in NJ, before joining the Purina family in 2013. Lauren currently resides in Linwood, NJ serving as a veterinary communications manager for Nestlé Purina Petcare. Spreading passion for advanced nutrition, she supports veterinary teaching hospitals throughout the country and provides technical support for Purina’s sales consultants. She continues to practice as a relief veterinarian in South Jersey. In addition to nutrition, Lauren has a key interest in small animal surgery. Lauren spends all of her free time with her twin boys Zachary and Felix, and her daughter, Greta. Lauren also enjoys being outdoors mountain biking, surfing, cycling and snowboarding with her children and her husband, Michael. She loves spoiling her lab, Dottie Lou, and her two cats, Cecilia and Daniella. She has a passion for sustainability and helping others to make “green” choices. Dr. Pagliughi went tandem sky diving 3 times when she was 19 years old in hopes to become certified - that did not happen! She has a passion for high intensity sports, like Mountain Biking and Snowboarding. She has a dream of moving to Costa Rica one day.

COS - 161 - Leaders Should NOT Eat Last - Hungry And Burned Out Is Not How We Thrive Sep 22, 2022

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Dr. Michael Miller joins the podcast to talk about the downside of leaders eating last. He and Dr. Andy Roark discuss what happens when servant leadership turns to martydom, signs that practice leaders are "giving" in an unhealthy way, and what to do about it. This episode is perfect for anyone who is pouring their heart and soul into practice and feels burned out and used up at the end of the day.

LINKS Leaders Eat Last: https://www.amazon.com/Leaders-Eat-Last-Together-Others-ebook/dp/B00DGZKQM8

ABOUT OUR GUEST: Dr. Michael W. Miller is the co-owner of a four-hospital small animal practice in the far southwest suburbs of Chicago, seeing patients at Lakewood Animal Hospital in Morris, Illinois. In addition to dogs and cats, he has a special interest in reptiles which led him to start a wildlife rescue at his practice for hit-by-car turtles. He currently serves on the Illinois Veterinary Medical Alumni Association executive board. After being a contributing author to the DrAndyRoark.com and UnchartedVet.com websites, he started his blog called Harry Potter Vet, where he uses comparisons to the wizarding world to help veterinary professionals and himself discover the magic in veterinary medicine. Recently he has started sharing that magic through speaking engagements – most notably the AVMA Veterinary Leadership Conference and the Uncharted Veterinary Conference. Outside of vet med, he also is discovering the magic of parenthood as he and his wife raise their two young sons.

COS - 160 - Cats And Carbs: New Research On A Nutritional Controversy Sep 15, 2022

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Dr. Dottie Laflamme, a board certified veterinary nutritionist, joins the podcast to discuss a peer-reviewed article she first-authored earlier this year: Evidence does not support the controversy regarding carbohydrates in feline diets. She and Dr. Roark discuss the controversy, the role of carbohydrates in feline digestion and disease pathology and management, and finally, the pros and cons of feeding a wet vs dry commercial food.

LINKS: Evidence does not support the controversy regarding carbohydrates in feline diets: https://avmajournals.avma.org/view/journals/javma/260/5/javma.21.06.0291.xml Purina Institute: https://www.purinainstitute.com/ Tufts University Vet Nutrition: https://vetnutrition.tufts.edu/ AAVN: https://aavnutrition.org

ABOUT OUR GUEST: Dr. Dottie Laflamme received her DVM, MS in ruminant nutrition, and PhD in nutrition and physiology, all from the University of Georgia. She completed her clinical nutrition residency as an ALPO Postdoctoral Fellow in Clinical Nutrition. Dr. Laflamme is a Diplomate and past-President of the American College of Veterinary Nutrition. She is an author on over 200 scientific and technical publications; and has been a speaker at a number of veterinary, research, and continuing education programs worldwide. She worked for Purina (first Ralston Purina, now Nestle Purina) in the Research and Development Department from 1990 until her retirement in 2015. Her research focused on therapeutic nutrition, especially obesity management, and geriatric nutrition. She currently works as an independent consultant. Dottie lives in the Blue Ridge Mountains of western Virginia.

COS - 158 - Is It Worth Being Online Anymore? Reputation Management Post - Pandemic Sep 08, 2022

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Bill Schroeder joins Dr. Andy Roark to discuss how digital marketing for veterinarians has changed in recent years. They debate the value of spending time and energy online as a veterinary practice, and then discuss strategies for responding to negative online reviews and building a rock-solid online reputation.

LINKS: Avoid a Toxic Team: Creating Psychological Safety: https://unchartedvet.com/product/avoid-a-toxic-team-creating-psychological-safety/ Get Sh*t Done Shorthanded Virtual Conference: https://unchartedvet.com/gsd-shorthanded/ InTouch Reputation Resource: https://intouchvet.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/The-Veterinary-Guide-to-Online-Reviews.pdf SocialMedia Examiner: https://www.socialmediaexaminer.com/ Hubspot: https://blog.hubspot.com/ Bill's Contact Info: bill@intouchvet.com

ABOUT OUR GUEST: Bill Schroeder is an entrepreneur, international speaker, veterinary thought leader, and digital marketing enthusiast who has, for the past 28 years, leveraged his love of people and pets to help veterinary practices grow and thrive. He has say on the Board of Directors for VetPartners, teaches within the MBA program at Purdue University, and can be found teaching from many of the veterinary conference stages around the world. Bill owns InTouch Practice Communications (www.InTouchVet.com), a full-service digital marketing agency built specifically for the veterinary community. His firm and more than 8,000 client success stories are the basis for his totally non-commercial talks. This unique view into the techniques and principles that are actually making the most impact drive his classes to be extremely relevant and empowering as the content is drawn from actual experience. It’s the stuff that works. Bill will teach you how to implement these things in your practice. As a former United States Marine, he is a forever patriot and eagerly supports many veteran’s causes. Bill lives in the Chicago suburbs with his wife Katie, daughters Madison and Lilly, and their very jealous schnauzer, Olive.

COS - 159 - Probiotics in Behavior Cases? Sep 05, 2022

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What role can nutrition and probiotics play in addressing behavior problems? Probably more than you think. Dr. Ragen McGowan, Ph.D. joins Dr. Andy Roark to discuss the link between the gut and the mind, how Purina's new Calming Care supplement has been shown to help dogs and cats, and what expectations veterinarians can have (and set for clients) for working with these products.

LINKS: Purina Pet Expertise: https://www.purina.com/articles Purina Pro Plan Vet Direct: https://www.proplanvetdirect.com/pro-plan-veterinary-diets/cat-dog-supplements

ABOUT OUR GUEST: Ragen is the Senior Manager of the Global Pet IoT, AI and Digital Solutions Group at Nestlé Purina leading work to generate pet behavior and wellbeing insights. She has over 20 years of experience in animal behavior research, the last 13 of which have been with Nestlé Purina using a holistic approach incorporating behavior, physiology and endocrinology to quantify affective states and temperament in dogs and cats. With this knowledge she aims to create products that cater to different behavioral needs of pets and to better understand and quantify the human-animal bond from the pet’s perspective. Ragen earned B.S. in Zoology, a B.A. in Foreign Language and Literature and a PhD in Applied Ethology from Washington State University in Pullman, Washington. Her PhD research focused on Contrafreeloading behavior, a phenomenon whereby animals choose to work for food even when the same food is freely available, in grizzly bears, laying hens and laboratory mice. In addition, Ragen worked on other projects examining play behavior in piglets and children and means to reduce problem behaviors such as cannibalism in laying hens. Prior to joining Nestlé Purina Ragen held a post-doctoral research position in the Section for Ethology and Animal Welfare at the Swedish University of Agricultural Sciences in Uppsala, Sweden. Her post-doctoral research focused on the study of emotionality in dogs. Specifically, she explored new methodology to objectively evaluate positive emotions in animals. This included using Cognitive Bias and Contrast to measure emotional states and studying the ‘Eureka Effect’ (emotional reactions to learning) in dogs. She is now bringing this knowledge of animal behavior and emotions into the digital space to better connect owners with their pets. Ragen has a passion for sharing her vast knowledge of pet behavior and the human-animal bond. In addition to speaking at a variety of events for Purina, she serves as a reviewer for several scientific journals and is a contributing scientific expert for scientific congresses, roundtables and podcasts. In addition to her passion for animals, Ragen is also an avid dancer and has been an instructor of ballroom dance for many years. Ragen is based in Saint Joseph, Missouri where she lives with her husband, two children and two giant rescue dogs, Luna and Perry.

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