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Live from Monaco! From Bitcoin OG’s to NFT’s! with Michael Terpin May 31, 2022

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Today we have a special episode where we share my various discussions from CoinAgenda. This episode includes a Fireside Chat with myself and Michael Terpin and a panel discussing how crypto and NFTs will disrupt the film industry. The first half of the episode is the Fireside Chat with Michael Terpin. Michael and I reminisce about the early days of Bitcoin. We discuss the experience of going through your first crypto cycle. We also touch on the benefits of building during a bear market. Our subsequent conversation discussion focused on the significant differences in the industry between the early days of Bitcoin and now. We pivot to focus on how VCs impacted the industry. We also focus on the benefits of angel investing. We also touch on the unique characteristics that crypto projects have, which give them the ability to raise money in multiple ways. We transition, and we discuss my new project, Defiine. We provide a general overview of Defiine and how we will be disrupting film financing. Part 2 of the episode is a panel discussion moderated by Joyce Chow, and the panelists included me, Alexander Amartei, producer of Antara & inventor of Movie NFTs, Tom Malloy, an American actor & filmmaker, and Andreas Kohl, CBDO at Mintlayer. We begin the panel by discussing how crypto will disrupt film financing. We also discuss how each of the panelists were initially attracted to crypto. We touch on how NFTs are disrupting the film industry, from financing to fan engagement. We also discuss why we should be building on Bitcoin. We finish our conversation by discussing the importance of providing value and how to make a project more valuable. Please enjoy this special episode.

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The Secret Sauce of NFTs with Rob Richardson May 24, 2022

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My guest today is Rob Richardson, the CEO, and co-founder of Disrupt Art, a Global marketplace created to revolutionize the impact of Art, Music, Fashion, and Film. DisruptArt aims to curate an interactive space for artists, collectors, and activists to revolutionize the impact of art. Artists sell their pieces as digital creations through blockchain technology. Their vision is to create a community where spoken word artists, musicians, entrepreneurs, photographers, and crypto artists intersect, creating dialogue about social impact, contemporary art, and the blockchain. They believe artists deserve more equity, and it’s why they ensure artists receive a majority of the funds and always receive a royalty for their work. That is why they created a new Black-owned NFT minting platform, DisruptArt. They focus on equity, diversity, and bridging NFT technology to the world. They work with activists, allies, and organizations to build a more equitable future using NFTs. Rob is also the founder of Disruption Now Media, a platform that connects entrepreneurs, artists, and leaders through interactive events, educational content, podcasts, and virtual and in-person summits. Disruption Now Podcasts hosts conversational podcasts with disruptors focused on impact. Past guests have included: NY Times bestselling author Robert Greene, Monique Woodward, Jewel Burks Soloman of Google Startups and Collab Capital, Arlan Hamilton of Backstage Capital, and many others. When Rob was appointed chairman of the University of Cincinnati’s Board of Trustees, he became the youngest person to serve in this role in the University’s history. He established the 1819 Innovation Hub in his tenure, where industry and talent collaborate to spark groundbreaking ideas. He created a leadership development and academic preparedness program for high school students. He also championed reforms to the University’s police policies. We discuss various topics, including NFTs and Web3, redefining the term Artist, the rise of creators, the disruption potential of NFTs, and much more. We begin our conversation by discussing what is an artist. Rob explains why needs to redefine the meaning of “artist.” We discuss the rise of the creator and how everyone who is building and using their imagination is a creator. Our next conversation topic centered around the best ways to explain NFT and Web3 to someone. Rob discusses why some people cannot reimagine reality through a new paradigm. We discuss how Web3 brings about a new paradigm for online creation and ownership. Rob shares the steps he uses to explain NFT and Web3 to someone new to the space. We also discuss how NFTs accrue value. We discuss the NFTs enable creators to develop a stronger relationship with their fanbase. Our next topic centered around which mediums and sectors will be distributed the most because of NFTs. We discuss how film and TV will be one of the major sectors disrupted by NFTs. We also discuss why using technology to create value is the secret to long-term success. We touch on why it’s essential to become knowledgeable about the space and its broader implications across various industries. Our final discussion topic was how NFTs are a gateway into the crypto-verse by allowing more people to begin to grasp the transformational nature of crypto.

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The Evolution of Web3 with Halsey Minor May 17, 2022

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My guest today is Halsey Minor, CEO of Vivid Labs. VIVID enables anyone to create, manage, and sell multimedia NFTs, enabling new use cases and business models and evolving NFTs into complete media experiences. Compatible across all significant blockchains, VIVID offers advanced NFT + features that transform simple NFTs into rich media experiences that are multi-format, multi-asset, permissioned, updateable and resilient. Halsey is a technology founder behind some of the greatest successes in internet and enterprise computing which have anticipated “what’s next” in enterprise architecture and technology adoption. His companies have created over $250 billion in cumulative value, and he’s built a Nasdaq 100 company from scratch. His achievements as founder or co-founder include CNET, Uphold, Salesforce, Google Voice, OpenDNS, and Vignette. We discuss various topics, including the future of NFTs, the evolution of the web, why NFTs are a new form of the website, and much more. We begin our conversation by discussing how NFTs are creating a new genre of multimedia content. Halsey discusses how NFTs will enhance the fan experience and provide content creators with new and innovative ways to connect with their audience. Halsey explains how various music artists and movie franchises are currently utilizing this technology to build a more profound fan experience for their audiences. Our next conversation topic centered around the evolution of the web. We discuss how Web3 is the natural evolution of the net. Halsey shares his experience building startups and business throughout the different web eras and what attracted him to Web3. We also discuss why NFTs are a new form of the website and the possible implications of that framing. We transitioned our conversation to discuss the importance of sensible regulation around NFTs. Halsey outlines why he has been imploring regulators to treat NFTs as content and not deem them to be securities. Another major conversation topic we discussed was the recent stablecoin news and why algorithmic stable coins are unlikely to work. Our final conversation centered around the future of NFTs and how creators and fans will benefit from the technology as we continue to push the boundaries of what we think is possible in space. Please enjoy my conversation with Halsey Minor.

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Legally Protecting Bitcoin with Jason Brett May 06, 2022

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Today, my guest is Jason Brett, Founder and CEO of Value Technology Foundation. Value Technology Foundation is a DC nonprofit think tank dedicated to blockchain advocacy, education, research and development, and advocacy. Jason has extensive experienced with blockchain and has made presentations to several U.S. government agencies and regulatory bodies. Prior to becoming the founder of Value Technology Foundation, Jason was the Director of Operations at the Digital Chambers of Commerce. He was also a Policy Director for ConsenSys. While serving as Policy Director for the blockchain technology company ConsenSys, he was responsible for their domestic and international policy during a critical period of its growth. He has worked in both the Division of Finance and Capital Markets during the height of the 2008-2009 global financial crisis at the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation. Additionally, he has extensive experience in developing and implementing successful governmental affairs programs for various companies, including clients of Key Bridge Advisors. He is also a forbes.com contributor who writes on policy issues related to cryptocurrency and blockchain. Jason holds an M.B.A. from American University and a Bachelor’s degree from Cornell University. We discuss various topics ranging from a Bitcoin Constitutional Amendment, the Bitcoin Voting Block, Bitcoin/Crypto Regulation, and much more. We began our conversation by discussing why Jason believes it is necessary to pass a constitutional amendment codifying the right for people to own and control their Bitcoin. We discuss the importance of protecting people from the overreach of government and the American ideals that are present in Bitcoin. Our conversation transitions to focus on the growing Bitcoin Voting Block. We discuss the increasing number of constituents becoming single-issue voters about Bitcoin and Crypto. We also discuss the increasing number of politicians that are pro-Bitcoin and pro-Crypto. We discuss how these politicians are fighting to protect the industry. Our next conversation topic focused on the recent executive order, and its possible impact on the industry. We discuss how the current executive order was focused mainly on gathering information that could impact potential legislation in the future. We discuss the benefits of the American political system compared to countries like China. Our final conversation centered around BIP 119 and trying to make changes to Bitcoin. We discuss why the process should be challenging to change Bitcoin. Please enjoy my conversation with Jason Brett.

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The Cryptopian Craze with Laura Shin May 03, 2022

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My guest today is Laura Shin. Laura is a crypto/blockchain journalist covering Bitcoin, Ethereum, Defi, NFTs, DAOs, stablecoins, etc. She is the host of the podcast Unchained; and author of "The Cryptopians: Idealism, Greed, Lies, and the Making of the First Big Cryptocurrency Craze." During the course of writing her book, Laura and her sources uncovered who they believe was behind the 2016 DAO attack on Ethereum. Laura is a former senior editor at Forbes. She is the first mainstream journalist to coCryptover crypto full-time. Her podcasts and videos have had more than 15 million downloads and views. She has spoken about cryptocurrency at TEDx San Francisco, the International Monetary Fund, Singularity University, and the Oslo Freedom Forum. In our conversation, we discussed various topics, including the early days of crypto, how new technology is adopted, the early Ethereum team’s dynamic, the DAO hacker, and much more. We begin our conversation by discussing how Laura got into crypto and what sparked her interest in the space. Laura shares how she became the first mainstream reporter to report on crypto full time and how reporting on crypto eventually led her to start her podcast and write her book, Cryptopians. Another important topic we discussed was the adoption cycle of new technology. We discuss the adoption patterns as recent technological advancements are integrated into society—our conversation transitions to discuss the founding of Ethereum. Laura shares a few stories to illustrate how Ethereum was founded and the political strife within the early team. We also briefly touched on the ICO craze and what sparked the mania. We discuss the DAO hack that changed the course of Ethereum’s history. Laura shares the story of who she believes hacked the DAO and the account behind her reporting. Our final conversation topic centered around crypto Twitter. We discuss how crypto Twitter has become a vital aspect of the crypto space and the possible impact Elon’s acquisition of Twitter will impact crypto Twitter. Please enjoy my conversation with Laura Shin.

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Cooking Up Crypto Cashflow with Dr. Julian Hosp Apr 28, 2022

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Today, my guest is Dr. Julian Hosp, the CEO, and Co-Founder of Cake DeFi. Cake DeFi is a fintech platform that manages over $1 billion in customer assets. It focuses on creating DeFi (decentralized finance) services and applications like liquidity mining, staking, and lending, which generate cryptocurrency returns for users. The company recently announced a $100 Million raise to start a venture fund. The venture arm will be led by the company’s co-founders, Julian Hosp, CEO, and U-Zyn Chua, chief technology officer. While the company is based in Asia, it will invest in other opportunities globally. He is widely regarded as a leading influencer in the crypto and blockchain space, with over one million followers across all of his channels globally. His ideas, knowledge, and influence have been conveyed in numerous articles and keynote engagements at industry-leading conferences and events. As well as being credited as a leading authority in the vertical, he is an active speaker for the Washington Speaker’s Bureau, an advisor for the EU’s blockchain groups, and manages multiple businesses in the industry. He is also a best-selling author, having written Cryptocurrencies Simply Explained and Blockchain 2.0 — Far More Than Just Bitcoin. His vision is to bring blockchain awareness and understanding to a billion more people by 2025. Before being an entrepreneur, he was a professional kitesurfer and worked as a medical doctor. We discuss a wide range of topics, including Cake DeFi, Bitcoin, the gift of financial literacy, DeFi vs CeFi, and much more. Our conversation begins by discussing the second-order effects of COVID and lockdowns on the digitization of society. We discuss the growing adoption of the metaverse as society becomes more digitally native. Our next conversation topic centered around the economic philosophy of Bitcoin. We discuss the pros and cons of a hard monetary policy and how the debate is beginning to gain steam in the mainstream discourse. We transition the conversation to discuss yields. Julian explains why crypto platforms and DeFi protocols give their users higher yields than traditional financial institutions. Julian also describes how the business model of Cake DeFi is aligned with its users. Julian discusses how Cake DeFi is paying users to learn about crypto and the importance of financial literacy. We transitioned our conversation to discuss the custodial vs noncustodial crypto worlds. We discuss the concept of virgin Bitcoin. We also touch on why regulators' view of blockchains is antiquated and why their limited understanding of the technology holds back innovation. Our next conversation topic centered around the design of Bitcoin. We discuss the limitations of bitcoin and the benefits of its simplicity. Another fascinating topic in our discussion was the market manipulation in crypto and its impact on retail investors. Our final conversation topic was the importance of preserving crypto culture. We discuss the evolving nature of crypto’s culture and the importance of maintaining the core ethos of crypto as the industry grows. Please enjoy my conversation with Dr. Julian Hosp.

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Mortgage NFTs and the Bacon Protocol with Karl Jacob Apr 26, 2022

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Today, my guest is Karl Jacob, the co-founder, and CEO of LoanSnap. Karl is a serial entrepreneur who has been building, advising, and investing in companies for the last 20 years. LoanSnap invented the world’s first smart loan technology that uses AI and machine learning to analyze a person’s entire financial picture and show them how to benefit from a smart home loan. LoanSnap is the parent company that built the Bacon Protocol, a decentralized mortgage lending protocol created using smart contract technology on the Ethereum blockchain. Anyone with a Web3 wallet can lend money and earn interest, all while seeing exactly which homes they’re lending against. Moreover, anyone with a home that meets the protocol’s criteria can create an NFT and use it as collateral to borrow money. Karl’s career has been focused on founding companies that solve big problems, and those companies have helped tens of millions of consumers. He has raised 23 rounds of financing from investors, including True Ventures, Baseline Ventures, Richard Branson’s Virgin Group, Microsoft, eBay, Integral Partners, Norwest Ventures, Greylock, Benchmark Capital, FT Ventures, Ignition Partners, and Vulcan Ventures. Many of his companies have had successful acquisitions, including; Dimension X, acquired by Microsoft, Keen/Ingenio, acquired by AT&T, Cloudmark, acquired by ProofPoint, and Coveroo, acquired by Zazzle. While CEO, Jacob has generated hundreds of millions in returns to investors and over $150 million in revenue per year. He holds a B.S. in Computer Science from the University of Southern California Engineering School, where he sits on the board of counselors. We discuss a wide range of topics, including LoanSnap, Bacon Protocol, the real estate industry, the benefits of blockchain, and much more. We begin our discussion by delving into why the banking/loan industry has been tough to disrupt. Our conversation leads us to how he and his team have finally found a way to disrupt their value chain. Karl explains how the Bacon Protocol works and what makes it unique. Karl elaborates why they decided to build the bacon protocol on blockchain/crypto rails instead of building on the traditional financial stack. He illustrates this by explaining how blockchain removes the barriers and overhead that plague the conventional loan and real estate industry. Karl discusses the fallacies that persist throughout the loan industry and how the Bacon Protocol democratizes access to affordable housing and the loan industry. We also discuss the socioeconomic impact of foreclosures on neighborhoods and how blockchain technology can be used to solve the misalignment between individuals and corporations. Karl also addresses the impediments that currently make it challenging to tokenize real-world assets and how they’ve optimized the Bacon Protocol to avoid these issues. We finish our conversation by discussing how Karl envisions the entire loan industry to be disrupted by blockchain technology. Please enjoy my conversation with Karl Jacob.

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Crypto Bridges and Payment Rails with Tyler Spalding Apr 21, 2022

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My guest today is Tyler Spalding, a Co-Founder of Flexa, a blockchain payments company based in New York City. Flexa is a versatile digital payments platform that offers several key features. Flexa has point-of-sale (POS) hardware compatibility as a merchant-focused app and is designed to reduce costs, settlement times, and fraud. Payments are collateralized by Flexa’s ERC-20 token Amp, which can be staked as collateral that receives additional Amp as a staking incentive. Flexa is accepted all over North America; Flexa aims to scale globally and integrate with numerous apps and payment options. For merchants, Flexa offers a variety of payment integrations and plug-ins to enable digital asset acceptance using existing point-of-sale (POS) hardware and software. Flexa supports dozens of digital currencies for consumers — including cryptocurrencies, tokens, and digital dollars — for payment at thousands of stores throughout the United States and Canada — including Nordstrom, GameStop, Lowe’s, and Petco. Flexa has a mission of eventually enabling digital asset payments for any app, using any currency, at any store worldwide. He has been preaching/mining/coding cryptocurrencies since 2011. Tyler is the former CTO of Raise, the world’s largest gift card marketplace with over $1B in sales and $150M in venture funding. Tyler has more than 20 years of technology experience, has founded and sold three software companies, and is an active seed-stage investor in 25+ startups. He is an author of more than 50 technology patents and was previously an aerospace engineering faculty member at two universities. Tyler is also a former engineer for the United Space Alliance, the United States Air Force, NASA Mars Crew Module, and the NASA Space Shuttle Program. We discuss various topics, including the Flexa and AMP, the payment industry, why we are still early, etc. We begin our conversation by discussing the multiple inefficiencies in the payment industry. I share my personal experience with the challenges facing merchants when dealing with payment providers. Tyler explains why the inefficiencies are so prevalent. Tyler shares his experience from helping run Raise, where they developed various systems to combat fraud and other inefficiencies. Our conversation naturally leads us to Flexa, where Tyler explains how Flexa enables people to pay with crypto across millions of merchants and retailers. Tyler goes on to discuss the tokenomics of AMP. We have a fascinating conversation comparing the engineering challenges in blockchain and aerospace engineering. We also discuss the philosophy of Voluntarism and the importance of individual choice. Our conversation pivots back to Flexa, where we discuss the company's commitment to transparency. We also discuss how Flexa is supporting the infrastructure of El Salvador’s transition to a Bitcoin Standard. We discuss how the crypto industry is still very early and why it is inevitable. Our final conversation topic centered on the social challenges of educating people on the proper custody of digital assets. Please enjoy my conversation with Tyler Spalding.

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Self Sovereignty and Self Custody with Charles Guillemet Apr 14, 2022

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My guest today is Charles Guillemet, CTO of Ledger. Ledger provides security and infrastructure solutions to critical digital assets for consumers and institutional investors. Launched in 2014, Ledger has designed an acclaimed line of hardware security devices, quickly placing the company as a global leader in the market, with 1,000,000 units sold in more than 165 countries. Ledger introduced the Vault for enterprises and corporations: a fully managed SaaS solution addressing the need to safeguard a very large amount of multiple cryptocurrencies while mitigating both IT and physical assault threats. The company is also active in the industrial IoT market, leveraging its secure hardware technology to interface sensors and machines to smart contracts or blockchain-based assets. Charles joined Ledger in 2017 as Chief Security Officer after working for ten years in the Cryptography & Hardware Security sector. He is also the creator of Donjon (the company’s security research department). He is now Chief Technology Officer from 2019. Charles holds a Master of Science in Cryptography & Security at the Engineering School ENSIMAG, with a Major in Cryptography and Security (Valedictorian), where he used to be a Lecturer. We discuss a variety of topics ranging from the importance of hardware wallets, Donjon, the advancements in security, areas for improvement in the crypto asset security industry, the future of blockchains, and much more. We begin our conversation by discussing the importance of hardware wallets. Charles explains the dangers of storing your private keys on your phone. Another topic of discussion centered around how the industry's growth will impact security. Charles outlines that as the crypto-asset sector continues to grow, it will continue to attract more hackers, so we must continue to focus on improving security and security education. Charles also discusses the risks that zero-day exploits could have on the industry. We finish our discussion on the importance of hardware wallets by discussing what they store and how ledger approaches designing their hardware wallets. Our conversation pivots to discuss why the north star of the crypto asset security industry should be to improve the UI and UX of their products. Charles does an excellent job detailing why improving the UX of security products will drive mass adoption. He also touches on the various bottlenecks we currently face that deter people from using hardware wallets to store their crypto assets. Another major topic of conversation centered around quantum computing. We discuss why quantum computing is not currently a risk for the crypto assets space and how it is mainly a research field. Charles also discusses that as the technology develops, the crypto-asset industry will have ample time to address the possible vulnerabilities that quantum computing could present. We also discuss the singularity and have a philosophical discussion of what we categorize as intelligence. The next major topic of discussion in the interview centered around the future of blockchains. Charles stresses that blockchain developers should not be creating applications on Layer-1s and instead focus their efforts on Layer-2s. We also discuss the purpose of blockchains. We discuss that the goal of blockchains is to decentralize society and give the user their power back. Charles outlines why this is such a strong value proposition, and we discuss how this will continue to revolutionize society for decades to come. Please enjoy my conversation with Charles Guillemet.

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How to Create an Open Web with Evan Chang Apr 08, 2022

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My guest today is Evan Cheng, co-founder & CEO of Mysten Labs. Mysten Labs is a team of leading distributed systems, programming languages, and cryptography experts whose founders led Meta’s Novi Research and helped develop the Diem blockchain and Move programming language. The mission of Mysten Labs is to create foundational infrastructure for Web3. They partner with crucial ecosystem builders to make step-change improvements to their networks. Before co-founding Mysten Labs, Evan helped lead Novi Financial and was the research and development director. Evan focused on systems & security, programming language & formal verification, and new product experimentation as the Director of R&D at Novi Financial. Novi Financial is Meta’s crypto R&D division. Before leading Novi Financial, Evan worked at Facebook as the Director of Programming Languages and Runtime. Evan focused on supporting Facebook's world-class team in programming languages, runtimes, and compilers: Hack, HHVM, Skip, Flow, Python, Reactive programming, C++, LLVM, Android + iOS mobile runtimes and optimization pipelines, mobile JavaScript platform, and runtimes, Glow, and more. Evan worked at Apple for over a decade, where he was a third-level manager overseeing seven engineering teams. He focused on leading efforts in static and runtime compilation for both CPUs and GPUs, Swift performance, static and dynamic linker, shared cache optimizations, debugger, and bitcode tooling. He collaborated on HW transitioning plans, a simulation tool for early GPU architecture exploration, built & integrated tools, App Store tools, and security hardening. Evan Bootstrapped various new "engineering effectiveness" initiatives. In our conversation, we discussed multiple topics, including; Mysten Labs, the future of Web3, the infrastructure of Web3, decentralization, and much more. We began our conversation by discussing what attracted Evan to crypto and what compelled him to make the jump to start Mysten Labs with co-founders. Evan explains why we are at the precipice of the next innovation wave in crypto. Our next conversation topic centered around the infrastructure layer of crypto. Evan discusses the various limitations current blockchains have to meet the rigorous demands of scaling and composability. Evan addresses how Mysten Labs is building tools and infrastructure to solve these bottlenecks. Our conversation pivots to discuss the future of Web3 and NFTs. Evan outlines why we are still in the early days of NFT and Web3. He discusses how the NFT space may evolve as the tools and infrastructure built around NFTs and Web3 becomes. One significant evolution we discussed is how NFTs will be able to send and receive data unlocking a tremendous amount of potential for collaboration and value for both builders and owners of NFTs. We finish our conversation by discussing how we imagine NFTs and Web3 changing how society interacts and communicates. Please enjoy my conversation with Evan Cheng.

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