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    The Charlie Shrem Show

    Bitcoin pioneer Charlie Shrem peels back the layers on the lives and backgrounds of the world’s most impactful innovators. Centering around intimate narratives, Shrem uncovers a detailed, previously unspoken story of the genesis and evolution of bitcoin, cryptocurrency, artificial intelligence, and the web3 movements. Join Shrem as he journeys through the uncharted territories of tech revolutions, revealing the human side of the stories that shaped the digital world we live in today.

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    High Stakes Protocol Development with Wil Barnes Jul 20, 2022
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    Today’s guest is Wil Barnes, CEO, and Co-founder of Jet Protocol. Jet is a borrowing and lending protocol built on the Solana blockchain focused on innovative lending products and cross-chain interest rate arbitrage. Most of the widely used DeFi protocols used up until this point have been built on top of and supported by the Ethereum ecosystem. Jet is ready to take borrowing and lending to the next level using Solana’s bleeding edge tech, low transaction costs, speed, and scalability. Users can also look forward to Jet's innovative interest-bearing products, which will be used to create markets on Serum DEX. The goal of Jet is to build a borrowing and lending protocol with market-driven interest rates, instead of the utilization curve-based interest rate models currently seen on Ethereum and Solana. Solana’s low fees and high throughput network gives Jet an opportunity to create an interest rate market-making experience that not only matches, but improves upon the centralized experience that everyone is familiar with. Wil is a Blockchain developer, Distributed systems software engineer with years of blockchain and software development experience before Jet at MakerDAO, ConsenSys, Kauri, PwC, and Booz Allen Hamilton; Wil brings immense engineering management and financial expertise to his broader team at Jet. Wil’s interests include open finance & geopolitics. We discuss various topics, including Jet, Solana, Ethereum, Maker DAO, the dynamics of debt markets, and much more. We begin our conversation by discussing Wil’s background and how he fell down the crypto rabbit hole. Wil shares how it is tough to break into traditional finance, especially when you want to work in the debt markets. He explains without a degree from a prestigious university or having a preexisting relationship; it is virtually impossible to get a job in traditional debt capital markets. He goes on to discuss how this is antithetical to crypto’s ethos and how in crypto, he was able to get various opportunities through hard work and merit. We transition and focus our discussion on his time at ConsenSys and Maker. Wil explains how Maker works and how it evolved over time. We discuss the DIA peg mechanism and address the various misconceptions about DAI. Another major conversation topic was bear markets. We discuss how to survive a bear market and how bear markets are for builders. We discussed his journey from working on Ethereum to eventually launching a project on Solana. We discuss the challenges he felt prevented him from building what he envisioned on Ethereum and why Solana was the ideal place to build Jet. We discuss the path to decentralization and the issues blockchains face when scaling. Our final discussion topic centered around Jet. Wil explains the importance of fixed interest rates for debt markets. We touch on the perils of CeFi. We discuss Jet’s mission and the future of DeFi. Please enjoy my conversation with Wil Barnes.

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    Celsius and Monetary Cycles with Simon Dixon Jul 15, 2022
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    My guest today is Simon Dixon, CEO & Co-Founder of the online investment platform BnkToTheFuture.com who has invested over $1.7 billion in FinTech companies. Bnk To The Future is a global online investment platform that allows qualifying investors to invest in financial innovation, including fintech (Financial Technology) companies, funds, and other new alternative financial products. He is also the Fund Manager of Bitcoin Capital & author of the book 'Bank to the Future.' An active FinTech & Bitcoin angel investor with investments in BitPay, Kraken, BitPesa, and over 20 others. An ex-director of the UK Digital Currency Association & UK CrowdFunding Association. He regularly speaks on the future of finance to governments, businesses, investors, and financial institutions. An ex-investment banker that left corporate in 2006 to work on his book on the future of banking. Simon has been regularly quoted & appeared in major press & media outlets, including BBC, FT, CNBC, Reuters, Bloomberg, and Wall Street Journal. We discuss various topics, including Bitcoin, the Celsius Collapse, an Overview of Crypto Crash, Monetary Cycles, the Fight for the Free Market, and much more. We begin our conversation by discussing the various collapses throughout Crypto’s history. We begin our discussion by examining the Luna death spiral. Simon explains how Mt Gox unraveled and how they handled the situation. We discuss Bitfinex’s hack. Simon describes how the team behind Bitfinex used the lessons learned from Mt Gox and how they navigated the crisis better. We finish our conversation about crypto collapses by comparing and contrasting Celsius and Voyager. Simon explains how Voyager has been more transparent and adept at handling their crisis, while Celsius has done everything they can to obfuscate blame and act in bad faith. Simon discusses in detail how Celsius management did not have proper risk management and conducted themselves as an unregistered hedge fund. Our next major conversation topic centered around monetary cycles and the fight for the free market. We discuss the fourth turning and the ending of the debt cycle. Simon explains how financial instability and economic inequality lead to societal unrest. We discuss how we are currently living through a fourth turning and what that means for society. We also touch on the fight for free markets. Simon explains how the rise of CBDCs could lead to the rise of communism. We discuss how Bitcoin is the best tool to fight to protect capitalism and liberty from the evils of communism. We stress the importance of a complex money standard and the benefits hard money provides society. Our final discussion topic centered around investing frameworks. Simon shares how he structures his portfolio to hedge against a multitude of outcomes. We finish by discussing the proper frameworks to build and maintain wealth. Please enjoy my conversation with Simon Dixon.

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    The Death of Info Slaves with Shiv Malik Jul 13, 2022
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    My guest today is Shiv Malik, CEO, and Co-Founder of the Pool Foundation. The Pool Foundation is the company behind Pool Data, a platform and associated services to support Data Unions to develop, scale, and monetize. They have studied existing Data Union frameworks in the Web3 space, seeking to simplify the complex technology required to scale. The pool is not only generating products and a technology offering for Data Unions but also the fabric by which the entities are connected to aggregate data and data buyers. To do this, the ecosystem must become more mature by enabling new Data Union companies and integrating existing businesses into the Data Union model of governance and payment. They aim to accelerate this process by creating the materials, education, and mentorship necessary to establish Data Unions, grow their user bases, and sell their data through our real-time marketplace. Shiv Malik is a technologist, award-nominated broadcaster, author of two books, former Guardian investigative journalist, and co-founder of the Intergenerational Foundation think tank. He joined the Web3 space in mid-2017 as an adviser to the Golem project and subsequently as Head of Growth for Streamr and co-creator of their Data Unions framework. In 2021 he co-founded Pool and currently leads the organization on its mission to bring Data Unions to the world and ensure that people have control of their data and a genuine stake in the digital economy. We discuss various topics in our conversation, including the importance of Data, Data-opolies, Data Unions, Data Emancipation, and much more. We begin our discussion by discussing Shiv’s background before joining the Web3 space. Shiv shares how he was an investigative journalist and war correspondent. Shiv explains how his experiences helped prepare him for founding a startup. We transition our conversation to discuss why Data emancipation is essential. We discuss how the current surveillance capitalist model works and how tech companies can profit from our data. We define the term data-opolies and how Web3 offers an alternative system to the status quo. Shiv explains why he is so passionate about Data and Data Emancipation. We transition our conversation to discuss Pool and Data Unions. Shiv explains how Pool is building the infrastructure for Data Unions. We discuss in detail what data unions are and why they are essential in the quest to disrupt these Data-opolies. We transition to discuss advertising. Shiv explains how Data is used in advertising and how things need to change because of public sentiments toward data collection and government and corporate regulation. We discuss how Data Unions can help power the next revolution in marketing and advertising. Our final topic centered around the Intergenerational Foundation think tank. We discuss how we can reimagine the future and the importance of optimizing for time preference. Please enjoy my conversation with Shiv Malik.

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    Thank you for listening to The Charlie Shrem Show. For more free content and access to over 400 episodes, visit www.CharlieShrem.com.


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    Decentralization Maximalism with Pod of Jake Jul 07, 2022
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    Today we have a special episode where I am sharing my conversation on the Pod of Jake. Jake hosts me to discuss various topics, including Bitcoin, the early days of Bitcoin, the evolution of the Bitcoin and crypto space, and much more. Pod of Jake is an excellent podcast where Jake brings on guests from various industries to discuss technology, innovation, big ideas, and much more. This podcast is a must-listen-to anyone interested in learning more about myself, the early days of Bitcoin, and the future of Bitcoin and Crypto. We begin our conversation by discussing the early Bitcoin community. We touch on how the early Bitcoin community was composed of mainly young people and free staters. We transition to discuss how Bitcoin teaches financial literacy. We have a deep discussion about the issues of financial literacy and inclusion and how Bitcoin is a vehicle to learn about how the financial system works and why we need sound money. We discuss how I initially understood Bitcoin and how my understanding of Bitcoin evolved. We discuss how Bitcoin is a very deep subject matter and requires one to be curious and open-minded. We pivot our conversation to discuss how Bitcoin grew from word of mouth and the legend of Satoshi. Our next major conversation topic centered around Bitcoin being a lifeline. We discuss how Bitcoin and crypto are seen as an investment in first-world countries, but in most of the world, Bitcoin and crypto are seen as lifelines to the financial world. We discuss how the Bitcoin and Crypto industry is still very early, but the revolutionary technology is powering them. We discuss how we are our own worst enemy when trying to stomach the volatility of this emerging asset class. Our conversation transitions to focus on Bitcoin Maximalism. I share my thoughts on the subject and stress that I am a decentralization maximalist and what that means. We discuss the importance of permissionless systems as one of the core innovations of the blockchain and should be the North Star all crypto projects strive for. We pivot to discuss my experience building Bitinstant. We discuss my experience building an early Bitcoin company and the roadblocks I faced when trying to scale a crypto startup in the industry's early days. One of our last topics centered around crypto innovations and Bitcoin. We discuss how much of the innovation we see in the broader crypto ecosystem has its roots in Bitcoin, and how looking back at the industry's early days, we can see where the industry may be headed. Our last topic centered around what initially attracted me to the Bitcoin community. Please enjoy my conversation with Jake.

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    This podcast is powered by Blockworks. For exclusive content and events that provide insights into the crypto and blockchain space, visit them at https://blockworks.co

    Thank you for listening to The Charlie Shrem Show. For more free content and access to over 400 episodes, visit www.CharlieShrem.com.


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    Finding Meaning in Crypto with Kyle Kemper Jul 05, 2022
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    Today's guest is my friend, Kyle Kemper, a self-starting entrepreneur, bitcoin, crypto evangelist, and author. He is currently Chief Alchemist at Raze. The RAZE fintech platform enables users to tokenize and fractionalize shares, royalties, and distributions empowering you to self-fundraise quickly and safely using our flagship Dynamic Security Tokens (DSTs). He is also the co-host of the Miami Crypto Experience. He is known to be intellectually curious with a strong understanding of the crypto industry, decentralization, and transformation. Kyle has a long history working with Executives, Investors, Marketing, Compliance & Product teams. He prides himself on being an open communicator, storyteller, speaker, and presenter. He has over nine years of experience in business development, marketing, and communication with crypto & high-growth consumer-facing tech companies. We discuss various topics, including Bitcoin, the Crypto Community, Crypto’s Cultural Impact, Disrupting Corporate Governance, and much more. We begin our conversation by discussing the importance of incorporating joy and happiness into our daily lives—Kyle shares how he is able to not take himself too seriously. We discuss how crypto has finally pierced the cultural zeitgeist of mainstream culture. We discuss how everyday people are excited about crypto and how it permeates general conversation. Our following conversation topic was Kyle’s journey down the crypto rabbit hole. Kyle shares what attracted him to crypto and how various life experiences led him to crypto. We go on to discuss what makes Bitcoin such a revolutionary idea. Our next conversation topic centered around network participation. We discuss how the Doge community is one of the most vibrant communities in crypto. Kyle shares why Doge is an excellent introductory crypto for people looking to understand the basic principles of crypto. We transition to discuss the topic of self-custody and not your keys and not your crypto. We discuss the improvement of crypto wallets. Kyle also shares why he believes improving the UX/UI of wallets will help unlock crypto’s true potential. We discuss the impact of a universal unified crypto wallet. Our next conversation topic centered around product development. Kyle advises when you are launching a product to have the least amount of features possible and once you have a large enough user base, begin adding features slowly. Kyle shares why this is vital for gaining traction as an early company. We pivot our conversation to discuss UX/UI design. We discuss how designers and product people are only just entering the space. Kyle discusses how these people will drive adoption by making crypto more user-friendly and intuitive. We pivot to discuss self-actualization. Kyle stresses the need for a solid community to help oneself to self-actualize. One of the benefits of crypto is the strong community associated with being a part of the space. Our next conversation topic centered around the Kempler Clifford Formula. Kyle explains how anyone can use this simple formula to determine how much Bitcoin you need to own to protect yourself if you experience hyperbitcoinization. We finish our conversation to discuss how blockchain will help create direct democracy and fight against centralized tyranny. Please enjoy my conversation with Kyle Kemper.

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    This podcast is powered by Blockworks. For exclusive content and events that provide insights into the crypto and blockchain space, visit them at https://blockworks.co

    Thank you for listening to The Charlie Shrem Show. For more free content and access to over 400 episodes, visit www.CharlieShrem.com.


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    The Early Days of Bitcoin with Jered Kenna, Jonathan Mohan, and Adam B. Levine Jun 21, 2022
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    Today we have a special episode; I am sharing the panel that I was a part of at Consensus 2022, titled: 10 Years Later: Bitcoin's Commercial Beginnings from Those Who were There. The panel included Jered Kenna, Jonathan Mohan, and Adam B. Levine. Jered Kenna was the Founding CEO of the first US Bitcoin exchange, Tradehill / Bitcoin.com. Jered is an investor and former Marine. Jered Kenna is currently the Founder and CEO of 20mission Co-living / 20mission Cerveza, an investor specializing in start-ups and an entrepreneur at heart. Jonathan Mohan, Kickstarted the New York Blockchain community in early 2013, leading to one of the longest-running and one of the largest Blockchain-related meetup groups in the world. He is currently the Head of Partnerships at DLTx, a public company expanding web3 by deploying blockchain infrastructure at scale across major global industries. Adam B. Levine has been exploring, chronicling, and inspiring the world of Bitcoin and non-currency tokens since 2011. He’s a serial entrepreneur, the founding managing editor of Podcasts at CoinDesk(2019), founder and host of Speaking of Bitcoin(2013) and CoinDesks’ Markets Daily podcast. Adam is also the founder of Tokenly, Inc.(2014). Adam currently spends his time building state-of-the-art creativity-enhancing AI tools as the founder and CEO of 330.ai (2021). We discuss various topics, including our journey down the Bitcoin rabbit hole, the Early Bitcoin community, wild stories from the early days, how the space has evolved, and much more. We begin the conversation by sharing how we got into Bitcoin and the initial community that formed around Bitcoin in the early years. We highlight the iconic Crypto Castle in San Francisco, where many projects were incubated. Our next conversation topic centered around the experience of living through and being a part of Bitcoin’s infancy. We discuss why we believed Bitcoin had the potential to change the world. We discuss how the community was very cooperative and not competitive in the early days of the industry. We also touch on how pseudonymity permeated the early online community of Bitcoin. We had a funny conversation about the first Bitcoin Ponzi scheme, Bitcoin Savings and Trust, run by Pirate@40. Another fascinating conversation topic was the watershed moment in 2013 when a Congressional Hearing publicly declared being a Bitcoiner is not a felony. Our next major conversation topic centered on how Bitcoin and the Crypto Industry have changed over the last decade. We touch on how archaic regulation has stifled US innovation and has forced entrepreneurs and builders who want to pursue careers in crypto abroad. We also discuss why we are still so early in crypto and Bitcoin’s journey. We finish our conversation by discussing our craziest early Bitcoin stories. Please enjoy my conversation with myself and my friends, some of the most iconic Bitcoin OGs.

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    Thank you for listening to The Charlie Shrem Show. For more free content and access to over 400 episodes, visit www.CharlieShrem.com.


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    Building in a Bear Market with Bobby Zagotta Jun 16, 2022
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    Today’s guest is Bobby Zagotta, the Chief Executive Officer of BitStamp. Bitstamp is a cryptocurrency exchange based in Luxembourg. It allows trading between fiat currency, bitcoin, and other cryptocurrencies. Bitstamp is the world’s longest-running cryptocurrency exchange, continuously supporting the Bitcoin economy since 2011. With a proven track record and mature approach to the industry, Bitstamp provides a secure and transparent venue to over four million customers and enables partners to access emerging crypto markets through time-proven infrastructure. The company was founded as a European-focused alternative to then-dominant bitcoin exchange Mt. Gox. While the company trades in US dollars, it accepts fiat money deposits for free only via the European Union's Single Euro Payments Area, a mechanism for transferring money between European bank accounts. Bobby has demonstrated success in building and growing businesses in established and emerging markets, including significant experience in cryptocurrency and blockchain technologies. He’s proven to have the ability to develop and lead business lines, product development, global marketing and sales, international business development, and M&A/VC investing. He has significant experience building and leading winning teams, strategy and M&A, big data analytics, operations, lean principles, planning/forecasting, and leadership team facilitation and execution. Before joining Bitstamp, Bobby was the Chief Commercial Officer at Kraken Digital, where he was a member of the senior leadership team accountable for Business Operations & Strategy, Global Business Development, Corporate Development/M&A, Intelligence & Analytics, Banking & Payments, as well as two business line P&Ls, CF Benchmarks and OTC Trading. We discuss various topics, including Bitstamp, crypto adoption, surviving a crypto crash, regulatory clarity, and much more. We begin our conversation by discussing how TradFi institutions are being forced to understand the crypto space and what kind of product offerings they should build to give their clients access to crypto. We transition to discuss how in emerging markets, crypto is viewed. Bobby explains how in a survey conducted by Bitstamp, emerging markets trust crypto more than the traditional financial system. We discuss how crypto, for a large part of the world, is not an investment but a lifeline to the financial world. We move on to discuss Bitstamp. We discuss Bitstamp’s rich history and its commitment to customer success. We stress the need for crypto companies to focus on customer support and success to continue growing adoption and trust. We pivot our conversation to discuss the politicization of finance and how the Fed has grown in importance within the general public’s mindshare. We discuss the growing desire of the general public to understand how economic policy is made and its implications. This leads us to discuss the current economic fallout and its impact on the crypto markets. We focus on discussing various ways to survive the crypto winter. We also touch on the need to build through the bear market and how every successful company was started during a bear market. Our next conversation topic centered around regulatory clarity. We discuss the regulation of the broader crypto market, stable coins, and the need for Spot Bitcoin ETF. Please enjoy my conversation with Bobby Zagotta.

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    This podcast is powered by Blockworks. For exclusive content and events that provide insights into the crypto and blockchain space, visit them at https://blockworks.co

    Thank you for listening to The Charlie Shrem Show. For more free content and access to over 400 episodes, visit www.CharlieShrem.com.


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    Into the Deep Waters of Crypto Trading with 0xDorsal Jun 14, 2022
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    My guest today is 0xDorsal, Co-founder and core contributor of Integral. Integral is a new DeFi primitive that efficiently executes large orders. It is the only such primitive with a functional product to date and is poised to capture the exact segment of large client trading volume for DeFi. Integral is the pioneer in executing large orders in DeFi. It works smart by executing an order according to an oracle’s average price over time (currently, it’s Uniswap’s 5-min TWAP). To offer a competitive price with nearly 0% price impact, Integral mirrors order-book and AMM from some of the best centralized and decentralized exchanges and create a highly liquidity-rich environment for these large orders to execute. This technology mimics how the centralized exchanges process large orders: split and execute them over a period of time. This is made possible with the OB-AMM. The innovative AMM design unbundles the concept of liquidity to depth (order book depth, AMM shape) and capital (the actual amount of LP asset in the order book or AMM). By mirroring order books from exchanges like Binance and Uniswap, Integral can achieve the same depth with much less capital. 0xDorsal is the pseudonymous co-founder of Integral, the world’s first DeFi primitive for large orders. Dorsal’s background as a hedge fund manager positioned him well to help drive the migration from TradFi to DeFi. Dorsal has extensive experience as a business development lead within DeFi. In addition to his work at Integral, Dorsal is especially interested in market design, liquidity, DAOs, and coordination. We discuss various topics, including Integral, the evolution of DEXs, building a crypto project, and much more. We begin our conversation by discussing 0xDorsal’s Tradfi background. 0xDorsal discusses how his TradFi background prepared him to understand the current crypto landscape and gave him context to how the crypto trading industry is headed. We transition to discuss the evolution of Dex’s. We discuss the original DEXs like Etherdelta and IDEX and the significant shortcomings they experienced. And how these original DEXs gave rise to the next evolution of decentralized exchanges like Uniswap. 0xDorsal discusses why Uniswap v2 was a watershed moment in crypto’s history. We discuss the various problems plaguing the current DEX space, like front-running, MEVs, and flashbots. We dive deep into the various issues and how they impact a trader’s PNL. Our next conversation topic centered around Integral and how the project is tackling these various problems to create a better experience for large and small traders. 0xDorsal explains how Integral has innovated the AMM model. 0xDorsal explains how TWAMM works and why it’s so innovative. We transition to discuss the future of Integral. We touch on Integral’s possible future product offerings and their road map. 0xDorsal explains how they plan on building a decentralized OTC desk and the possibility of building atomic swaps into the project to enable cross-chain compatibility. We also discuss why they have decided to build a pseudonymous team and the benefits of pseudonymity. Our final discussion topic centered around the future of the crypto industry and where the crypto is headed. Please enjoy my conversation with 0xDorsal.

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    This podcast is powered by Blockworks. For exclusive content and events that provide insights into the crypto and blockchain space, visit them at https://blockworks.co

    Thank you for listening to The Charlie Shrem Show. For more free content and access to over 400 episodes, visit www.CharlieShrem.com.


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    Enabling Endogenous Trust with Eric Tung Jun 09, 2022
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    Today, my guest is Eric Tung, Founder and CEO of Themelio Labs, the company behind Themelio, a public blockchain that enables open, secure, and resilient decentralized apps. Themelio is pitched as a radically simple, stable, and long-term foundation that can power a vast and diverse ecosystem. Themelio plans to play a fundamental and ubiquitous role in the security infrastructure of a new and decentralized Internet, much like how IP, “immutable” since 1983, still underpins Internet communication. Themelio’s design is firmly centered around decoupling the blockchain from user-facing applications. Themelio does one thing — provide robust low-level functionality critical to secure decentralized apps — and strives to do it very well. An example is Mel, an independent, stable-value cryptocurrency that anyone can freely use. Inspired by previous blockchains like Bitcoin and Ethereum, Themelio nonetheless takes a very different design approach: radical immutability inspired by the Internet's architecture. Eric spent parts of his childhood in Canada and China, where he was born. His mother home-schooled him while they lived in Beijing to keep the Chinese Communist Party propaganda to a minimum. Yet as China ramped up its Great Firewall to block outside Internet from coming into the country, Eric rebelled and built Geph, a virtual private network that could get around the Chinese firewall. He did this when he was 12, and Geph is still used today in China and Iran. At 14, Tung was accepted into the University of Waterloo, where Ethereum inventor Vitalik Buterin was also a student and creator of Themelio. This new blockchain protocol strips out higher-level functionality to focus on the shared trusted layer of truth. We discuss various topics, including the internet protocol stack, rethinking blockchain, the importance of endogenous trust, paradigm shifts, and much more. We begin our conversation by discussing Eric’s background and what led him down the crypto rabbit hole. Eric explains how he started Geph and became interested in cryptography. We discuss why freedom tools and privacy-preserving protocols may be even more critical in the future. Our conversation transitions to discussing how the internet is structured and the various protocols that make up the internet. We pivot to discuss Themelio. We discuss how Eric and his team have reimagined how a blockchain should work by modeling it after the internet. We discuss how they created revolutionary non-fiat stablecoin. We also touch on how the killer feature of blockchains has always been endogenous trust and why that is important. We finish our conversation by discussing how to unlock the true potential of blockchain technology and what applications will drive mass adoption of blockchain technology. Please enjoy my conversation with Eric Tung.

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    This podcast is powered by Blockworks. For exclusive content and events that provide insights into the crypto and blockchain space, visit them at https://blockworks.co

    Thank you for listening to The Charlie Shrem Show. For more free content and access to over 400 episodes, visit www.CharlieShrem.com.


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    Accelerating Crypto Adoption with Michael Shaulov Jun 07, 2022
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    Today, my guest is Michael Shaulov, the CEO and co-founder of Fireblocks, a secure digital asset infrastructure company. Fireblocks is an enterprise-grade platform delivering a secure infrastructure for moving, storing, and issuing digital assets. Fireblocks enables exchanges, lending desks, custodians, banks, trading desks, and hedge funds to securely scale digital asset operations through the Fireblocks Network and MPC-based Wallet Infrastructure. Fireblocks serves over 1,200 financial institutions, has secured the transfer of over $2.5 trillion in digital assets, and has a unique insurance policy that covers assets in storage & transit. Some of the biggest trading desks have switched to Fireblocks because it's the only solution that CISOs and Ops Teams love. Before Fireblocks, he co-founded Lacoon Mobile Security, which was acquired by Check Point, and was then appointed the Head of Products, Mobile, and Cloud Security for Check Point. Michael is a serial cybersecurity entrepreneur and investor. He is also a recognized industry speaker, delivering talks at RSA Conference, BlackHat, and Infosec. Michael Shaulov received his B.Sc. in Computer Sciences and Physics from the Ben-Gurion University of the Negev, Israel, in 2009. We discuss various topics, including the importance of infrastructure, ensuring crypto’s mission, TradFi’s role in crypto, Premissioned DeFi, and much more. We begin our conversation by discussing the state of infrastructure in crypto. Michael shares how we can continue evolving and improving the infrastructure so that power crypto becomes better. We discuss the future of infrastructure in crypto and the importance of infrastructure in delivering crypto’s ethos. We also touch on preserving crypto’s ethos of equality and liberation. Our next topic focused on the role of TradFi and other incumbents. Michael shares how these incumbents can help crypto cross the chasm and bring the next wave of adoption to crypto. We also touch on crypto's regulatory hurdles and how these incumbents can help the industry navigate the regulatory waters. We transitioned to discuss permissioned DeFi. We discuss how we can build crypto-native tools to enable better consumer protection and the balancing act between DeFi and regulatory compliance. Michael very eloquently explains the advantages of building on-chain metadata and how this unlocks new markets for crypto. We end our conversation by discussing how companies can partner with Fireblocks to give their project the best in class infrastructure and backend capabilities to scale their project as efficiently and securely. Please enjoy my conversation with Michael Shaoluv.

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    This podcast is powered by Blockworks. For exclusive content and events that provide insights into the crypto and blockchain space, visit them at https://blockworks.co

    Thank you for listening to The Charlie Shrem Show. For more free content and access to over 400 episodes, visit www.CharlieShrem.com.


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