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    The Brainy Business | Understanding the Psychology of Why People Buy | Behavioral Economics

    Consumers are weird. They don’t do what they say they will do and don’t act how we think they “should.” Enter Melina Palmer, a sales conversion expert with a personal mission to make your business more effective and brain friendly. In this podcast, Melina will take the complex concepts of behavioral economics (the study and science of why people buy – or not) and provide simple, actionable tips you can apply right away in your business. Whether you’re a small business or thriving corporation, Melina’s tips can help your business increase sales and get more customers.

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    296. Framing: The Secret Weapon for Business Messaging Success (Refreshed Episode) Jun 12, 2023
    Show notes

    In the context of business messaging, frames play a crucial role in shaping the way potential customers perceive products and services. Different frames can evoke distinct emotions or reactions, as well as influence the customers' decision-making process. When applied effectively, framing can make a product or service more appealing, inspiring curiosity and generating positive associations in the minds of potential buyers. Framing can also demonstrate the benefits and value provided by a particular offering, ultimately increasing the chances of conversion.

    In the podcast, Melina Palmer discusses the importance of framing in marketing and advertising. She emphasizes that the presentation of a message, including the choice of words and phrasing, can have a significant impact on the way it is received and acted upon by the target audience. As such, marketers should carefully consider the use of frames, always taking into account the context in which they communicate their offering. By doing so, they can maximize their chances of resonating with potential customers and increase sales. Insights in this episode will help you to:

    • Grasp the power of framing and its influence on people's perception and communication.
    • Master the art of employing framing tactfully in advertising and marketing campaigns.
    • Adopt ethical framing practices to genuinely benefit consumers.
    • Implement insightful techniques for effective framing in your business messaging.
    Show Notes:
    • 00:00:00 - Introduction, Melina Palmer introduces the topic of framing and explains why it's essential for anyone looking to apply behavioral economics to their business.
    • 00:03:24 - The Power of Frames, Melina explains how frames impact the way we perceive the world around us and how our subconscious brain evaluates everything very quickly.
    • 00:09:23 - The Nail Salon Example, Melina uses the nail salon example from episode 2 to illustrate how framing can make a difference in how people perceive your business.
    • 00:12:51 - Loss Aversion and Framing, Melina discusses how framing can impact loss aversion and how losses are actually twice as powerful a motivator as gains according to research by Kahneman and Tversky.
    • 00:14:44 - Examples of Framing, Melina provides examples of how framing impacts the way we perceive things, such as labeling food as "90% fat-free" vs. "10% fat" or saying "Serena lost" vs. "Osaka won" in the context of the US Open.
    • 00:17:16 - Importance of Context in Framing, The way a message is framed can impact how someone reacts to it, based on their individual context. For example, promoting a credit card bonus offer may annoy existing cardholders who are not eligible. Therefore, it's crucial to consider the context and placement of messaging when developing marketing strategies.
    • 00:18:15 - Tversky's Studies on Framing, Tversky conducted several studies on framing, including one on the impact of framing on doctors' decisions about lung cancer treatment options. The study showed that framing the same information differently can lead to significantly different outcomes.
    • 00:20:07 - The Disease Problem, The Disease Problem is a classic example of the impact of framing on decision-making. In the study, participants were more likely to choose a risky option when the information was framed positively, as opposed to when it was framed negatively.
    • 00:25:33 - Examples of Verbiage Using Framing, Verbiage such as "Chevron with Techron" or "America's best selling brand" are examples of framing in marketing. The way a message is presented can impact how it's received by the audience, and it's crucial to choose the right framing to achieve desired outcomes.
    • 00:29:43 - The Impact of Naming on Framing, Choosing the right name for a business can impact its success. A poorly framed name such as "Avg Daycare" can negatively impact business, whereas a well-framed name can have a big positive impact.
    • 00:35:39 - The Impact of Framing on Consumer Behavior, Framing can impact the way consumers feel about a product or service. A well-worded frame can help someone appreciate a product or service, while a poorly worded frame can repel them from it. It's important to use framing in a way that helps people see the benefits of a product or service without tricking them.
    • 00:39:27 - The Power of Claiming Ownership, When a company makes a claim, even if it's something their competitors could also claim, it becomes associated with their brand. The power of claiming ownership is evident in BECU's marketing campaign, which made it difficult for other credit unions to use similar messaging (even though it was true for them as well).
    • 00:43:38 - Implementing Framing Strategies, Melina's top three framing strategies to try right now: replacing "if" with "when," using "everyone" instead of "anyone," and ending with a question. Curious why? Listen in...
    • 00:47:22 - Conclusion Melina's top insights from the conversation. What stuck with you while listening to the episode? What are you going to try? Come share it with Melina on social media -- you'll find her as @thebrainybiz everywhere and as Melina Palmer on LinkedIn.

    Thanks for listening. Don't forget to subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Android. If you like what you heard, please leave a review on iTunes and share what you liked about the show.

    I hope you love everything recommended via The Brainy Business! Everything was independently reviewed and selected by me, Melina Palmer. So you know, as an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. That means if you decide to shop from the links on this page (via Amazon or others), The Brainy Business may collect a share of sales or other compensation.

    Let's connect:

    • Melina@TheBrainyBusiness.com
    • The Brainy Business® on Facebook
    • The Brainy Business on Twitter
    • The Brainy Business on Instagram
    • The Brainy Business on LinkedIn
    • Melina on LinkedIn
    • The Brainy Business on Youtube
    • Join the BE Thoughtful Revolution – our free behavioral economics community, and keep the conversation going!

    Learn and Support The Brainy Business:

    Check out and get your copies of Melina's Books.

    Get the Books Mentioned on (or related to) this Episode:

    • How Minds Change, by David McRaney
    • What Your Employees Need and Can't Tell You, by Melina Palmer
    • What Your Customer Wants and Can't Tell You, by Melina Palmer
    • Getting Along, by Amy Gallo
    • Both/And Thinking, by Wendy Smith and Marianne Lewis

    Top Recommended Next Episode: The Top 5 Wording Mistakes Businesses Make (ep 2)

    Already Heard That One? Try These:

    • Priming (ep 252)
    • Loss Aversion (ep 9)
    • Herding (ep 264)
    • Unlocking the Power of Numbers (ep 17)
    • The Truth About Pricing (ep 5)
    • Change Management: It's Still Not About The Cookie (ep 226)
    • Your Guide to Create a Brainy Brand (ep 230)
    • Rebrand, Refresh, or Reinforce? (ep 44)
    • Present vs Future Biases (ep 246)
    • Counterfactual Thinking (ep 286)
    • Prefactual Thinking (ep 232)
    • The Littery (ep 75)
    • How To Become Indistractable, with Nir Eyal (ep 290)
    • Focusing Illusion (ep 89)
    • Confirmation Bias (ep 260)
    • The Hype Handbook, with Michael F. Schein (ep 143)
    • What Your Customer Wants and Can't Tell You (ep 147)

    Other Important Links:

    Brainy Bites - Melina's LinkedIn Newsletter


    295. Unlocking Employee Motivation: The Science Behind Engagement with Kurt Nelson Jun 09, 2023
    Show notes

    Dr. Kurt Nelson is a behavioral scientist and founder of the Lantern Group. His expertise involves helping businesses align incentives and motivation to improve sales, productivity, and employee happiness. With a strong focus on incorporating behavioral science principles into goal-setting and motivation strategies, Kurt offers valuable insights for individuals and organizations seeking to enhance their overall success. During the podcast, Melina and Kurt discuss the Great Resignation, Quiet Quitting, keystone goals, incentives, priming, framing, and so much more.

    Want to reduce turnover rates in your organization? Kurt explains why this requires a holistic approach that addresses multiple aspects of employee engagement and satisfaction. These might include clear communication of goals and expectations, a strong organizational vision, appropriate incentives, a psychologically safe environment, and acknowledging employee contributions. Implementing these elements effectively within the organization can result in a considerable reduction in turnover rates and a more motivated workforce.

    He shares a case study of a client company that initially had a 42% turnover rate, which is now under 5%. They achieved this by improving communication and creating a clear vision, which involved offering incentives designed to promote desired behaviors rather than instilling fear. Regular town hall meetings and a national employee meeting facilitated better communication and helped everyone stay informed. Additionally, they worked with managers to enhance their communication skills and foster better relationships with their teams. Learn all about this fascinating example and more in this episode, including:

    • Elevate employee engagement through comprehensive strategies for lasting retention.
    • Manage workload effectively and prioritize tasks to minimize burnout.
    • Infuse meaning, purpose, and creativity into your work culture for a thriving environment.
    • Enhance communication, vision, and incentives to diminish staff turnover.
    • Employ behavioral science techniques for successful goal-setting and motivation.
    Show Notes:
    • 00:00:00 - Introduction, Dr. Kurt Nelson, co-host of Behavioral Grooves and CEO of the Lantern Group, discusses his expertise in employee incentives and motivation in the workplace.
    • 00:03:35 - Employee Experience, Organizations are refocusing on the employee experience and how they can ensure they are doing right by their employees to increase engagement and motivation.
    • 00:08:34 - Human Complexity, Organizations need to understand that humans are complex and are driven by various factors, such as their external environment, social environment, and managerial challenges at work. Employees want a psychologically safe environment where they feel respected and fulfilled.
    • 00:11:23 - Quiet Quitting, Employees are pushing back against the expectation to give 150% effort every day. Organizations should not expect employees to go above and beyond all the time, but they need to create jobs that allow employees to be creative and bring passion into their work.
    • 00:14:22 - Full Self in Work, Employees who bring their full selves into work find more meaning and purpose in their jobs. Organizations need to make sure they are creating an environment that allows employees to find fulfillment at work.
    • 00:15:58 - The Importance of Frontline Managers, Frontline managers are often promoted for their individual job skills rather than their ability to manage. This can lead to a lack of understanding of how to engage and work with employees, causing turnover and "quiet quitting."
    • 00:18:23 - Case Study: Decreasing Turnover Rates, Working with a company that had a 42% turnover rate, Kurt and his team's focus was on improving communication from executive leadership to employees, setting a clear vision and incentives, and training managers on how to communicate and engage with their team. The result was a decrease in salesforce turnover rate to under 5%.
    • 00:22:23 - Priming and Framing, Changing 12 words in an email to incorporate qualified achievement words increased performance by 15% and decreased the need for escalation by 30%. Framing incentives in a gain or loss context can also impact behavior. Psychological safety is important for employees to feel valued and heard.
    • 00:28:46 - How to Be a Better Organization, Align incentives with desired behaviors, create a psychologically safe environment where employees feel valued and heard, and provide tools for managers and employees to break down goals and understand how to engage and motivate teams. Changing behavior is key to achieving success, and incentives are key to that.
    • 00:30:29 - Summary, To decrease turnover rates and create a better organization, focus on aligning incentives, creating a psychologically safe environment, and providing tools for managers and employees. Changing behavior is key to achieving success.
    • 00:31:03 - Lantern Group's Tools, Dr Kurt Nelson talks about the Lantern Group's tools that help employees set and achieve their goals. He introduces the Brain/Shift Journal, a 13-week guided journal with daily prompts based on behavioral science insights. The journal helps users create keystone goals, break them down into milestones, track progress, and cultivate gratitude.
    • 00:32:46 - Keystone Goals, Keystone goals are those that have a larger-than-life impact, which align with keystone habits. The journal helps users determine the right goal and break it down into milestones. It includes prompts like priming, gratitude, and progress tracking to keep users motivated and on track.
    • 00:35:02 - Conclusion Melina's top insights from the conversation. What stuck with you while listening to the episode? What are you going to try? Come share it with Melina on social media -- you'll find her as @thebrainybiz everywhere and as Melina Palmer on LinkedIn.

    Thanks for listening. Don't forget to subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Android. If you like what you heard, please leave a review on iTunes and share what you liked about the show.

    I hope you love everything recommended via The Brainy Business! Everything was independently reviewed and selected by me, Melina Palmer. So you know, as an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. That means if you decide to shop from the links on this page (via Amazon or others), The Brainy Business may collect a share of sales or other compensation.

    Let's connect:

    • Melina@TheBrainyBusiness.com
    • The Brainy Business® on Facebook
    • The Brainy Business on Twitter
    • The Brainy Business on Instagram
    • The Brainy Business on LinkedIn
    • Melina on LinkedIn
    • The Brainy Business on Youtube
    • Join the BE Thoughtful Revolution – our free behavioral economics community, and keep the conversation going!

    Learn and Support The Brainy Business:

    • Check out and get your copies of Melina's Books.
    • Get the Books Mentioned on (or related to) this Episode:
    • Influence, by Robert Cialdini
    • What Your Employees Need and Can't Tell You, by Melina Palmer
    • Mixed Signals, by Uri Gneezy
    • Getting Along, by Amy Gallo
    • Both/And Thinking, by Wendy Smith and Marianne Lewis

    Connect with Kurt:

    • Kurt on Twitter
    • Lantern Group's Website
    • Kurt on LinkedIn

    Top Recommended Next Episode: Secrets of Motivation and Incentives, with Tim Houlihan (ep 109)

    Already Heard That One? Try These:

    • Influence, with Robert Cialdini (ep 157)
    • Nudges and Choice Architecture (ep 35)
    • Priming (ep 252)
    • Framing (ep 16)
    • iNcentives: The "N" in NUDGES (ep 272)
    • Mixed Signals, with Uri Gneezy (ep 273)
    • The Human Experience, with John Sills (ep 277)
    • Getting Along, with Amy Gallo (ep 269)
    • Both/And Thinking, with Wendy Smith (ep 261)
    • The Microstress Effect, with Rob Cross (ep 287)
    • I Human, with Tomas Chamorro-Premuzic (ep 267)
    • Cobra Effect (ep 220)
    • Inequity Aversion (ep 224)
    • Avoiding Everyday Disasters at Work, with Gleb Tsipursky (ep 111)
    • Motivation and Incentives at Work, with Kurt Nelson (ep 187)

    Other Important Links:

    • Brainy Bites - Melina's LinkedIn Newsletter
    • Smart Behavioral Economics Secrets Every Marketer Needs, with Melina Palmer
    • Using Behavioral Economics to Help Businesses, with Melina Palmer

    294. Understand Mapping: Mastering Choice Architecture in Business Jun 06, 2023
    Show notes

    In the context of choice architecture, mapping involves organizing options to make them easily comprehensible and help customers make better decisions. By presenting choices in a simple and quick-to-understand manner, customers can avoid getting overwhelmed and make choices they are confident about. It is important, however, to carefully consider how options are presented, as offering too many choices can lead to confusion and regret.

    For the best results, businesses should strive to make options easy to compare and understand. Melina Palmer explains that mapping is a critical part of structuring complex choices, the "U" and "S" in NUDGES, and can be used to make customer decision-making more accessible and efficient. Proper mapping can result in better outcomes for both the customer and the business. Palmer highlights examples from several industries, including ice cream, hospital treatments, megapixel cameras and product guarantees, to illustrate how mapping concepts can be utilized to guide customers towards the best choice while maintaining their freedom to choose.

    • Understand the role of mapping in choice architecture for superior customer selections.
    • Convert complex choices into approachable, meaningful opportunities.
    • Help people get from where they are to where they want to be in the easiest way possible.
    Show Notes:
    • 00:00:00 - Introduction, Melina Palmer introduces the topic of the episode, which is the "U" in NUDGES: understanding mapping. She explains that the concept of mapping is important in choice architecture and nudging, which are foundational in behavioral economics.
    • 00:04:03 - What is Mapping?, Mapping refers to the relation between choice and welfare. The example given by Thaler and Sunstein in Nudge is choosing a flavor of ice cream versus choosing a medical treatment. The mapping for choosing ice cream is relatively easy, while the mapping for choosing a medical treatment is much more complex and difficult.
    • 00:07:07 - Five-Step Process to Understanding Mapping, Melina's five-step process to understanding mapping includes: 1) encourage thoughtful review and open-mindedness, 2) break down the options, 3) make it relatable, 4) help them to get there, and 5) call to action. This process is essential in building the map and guiding the customer to the right recommendation.
    • 00:10:22 - Encouraging Thoughtful Review, It's important to understand the biases and mental state of the customer or patient in making big decisions. The best choice architect will encourage thoughtful review and open-mindedness, especially in highly emotional situations.
    • 00:12:08 - Breaking it Down and Making it Relatable, The second and third steps in the five-step process are breaking down the options and making it relatable. This means anticipating the questions and needs of the customer and presenting relatable information in their language. In the example of buying a camera, the mapping will be different for each type of customer and their needs.
    • 00:16:34 - Mapping in a nutshell, Every choice can be broken down into a simple rule of thumb to use. Sticking with the camera example, megapixels are confusing. Saying it can be "billboard" or "poster size" or "web only" means something that can help someone make an informed decision.
    • 00:19:54 - Air Conditioning Mapping Example, To map the seemingly simple choice of buying air conditioning, let's encourage thoughtful review, break it down, make it relatable, help them get there, and set our call to action.
    • 00:27:17 - Mapping in the Restaurant Industry, Mapping in the restaurant industry involves sorting menu items into categories, relatable descriptions, and making it easy to choose. Staff picks, chef specials, bolded options, and images can also help with the mapping process.
    • 00:31:44 - Mapping in the Beauty Industry, Nail salons and other businesses in the beauty industry can learn from mapping practices. Simplify options, categorize services, and provide clear descriptions to help customers make informed choices.
    • 00:32:45 - The Importance of Mapping, Adding more options to a product can cause confusion and overwhelm for the consumer, making it harder for them to make a decision. It is important to provide a map or a clear comparison of options to aid consumers in making a choice.
    • 00:37:12 - The Significance of Incentives in Mapping, Consumers perceive fees differently than rates and how incentives play a role in mapping. Companies should present information in a relatable way to consumers to aid in making better decisions.
    • 00:42:09 - The Importance of Trailers and Descriptions in Mapping, Trailers, reviews, and ratings help customers map their options when it comes to choosing movies to watch. Brands can use visuals, such as commercials that show someone using their product, to help consumers create a mental map and make a decision.
    • 00:44:38 - The Benefits of Trial Periods and Satisfaction Guarantees, Companies can offer trials or guarantees of their products to help consumers test their welfare and make a more informed decision.
    • 00:46:45 - The Importance of Showcasing Benefits in Mapping, Category headings like "Most Popular" or "Best Value" can help direct consumers towards the best options. It is important to ensure that these headings accurately reflect the product to avoid nudging consumers towards a bad choice.
    • 00:48:31 - Understanding Customer Behavior, To understand customer behavior, it's important to consider the options they have and the criteria they use to make decisions. Creative solutions and presenting information in the best way possible can help businesses stand out from competitors and win repeatedly.
    • 00:48:59 - Value and Testing, Understanding where customers experience value and knowing how to present information takes time and testing, but it pays dividends. Businesses can unlock the most effective ways to encourage customers to buy and motivate employees to buy in by using proper mapping.
    • 00:49:28 - Incentivizing Employees, Incentivizing employees can be challenging, but with the right approach and understanding of their motivation, businesses can achieve success. The effort put in upfront can lead to significant dividends in the long run.
    • 00:50:08 - Conclusion, Melina's top insights from the conversation. What stuck with you while listening to the episode? What are you going to try? Come share it with Melina on social media -- you'll find her as @thebrainybiz everywhere and as Melina Palmer on LinkedIn.

    Thanks for listening. Don't forget to subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Android. If you like what you heard, please leave a review on iTunes and share what you liked about the show.

    I hope you love everything recommended via The Brainy Business! Everything was independently reviewed and selected by me, Melina Palmer. So you know, as an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. That means if you decide to shop from the links on this page (via Amazon or others), The Brainy Business may collect a share of sales or other compensation.

    Let's connect:

    • Melina@TheBrainyBusiness.com
    • The Brainy Business® on Facebook
    • The Brainy Business on Twitter
    • The Brainy Business on Instagram
    • The Brainy Business on LinkedIn
    • Melina on LinkedIn
    • The Brainy Business on Youtube
    • Join the BE Thoughtful Revolution – our free behavioral economics community, and keep the conversation going!

    Learn and Support The Brainy Business:

    Check out and get your copies of Melina's Books.

    Get the Books Mentioned on (or related to) this Episode:

    • Nudge, by Richard Thaler and Cass Sunstein
    • Mixed Signals, by Uri Gneezy
    • What Your Customer Wants and Can't Tell You, by Melina Palmer
    • The Illusion of Choice, by Richard Shotton
    • Elements of Choice, by Eric Johnson

    Top Recommended Next Episode: The "N" in Nudges – iNcentives (ep 272)

    Already Heard That One? Try These:

    • Mixed Signals, with Uri Gneezy (ep 273)
    • The Illusion of Choice, with Richard Shotton (ep 275)
    • Choice Hacking, with Jennifer Clinehens (ep 141)
    • Priming (ep 252)
    • Loss Aversion (ep 9)
    • NUDGES & Choice Architecture (ep 35)
    • The Overwhelmed Brain and Its Impact on Decision Making (ep 32)
    • Mirror Neurons (ep 31)
    • Anchoring and Adjustment (ep 11)
    • The Top 5 Wording Mistakes Businesses Make (ep 2)
    • Sludge (ep 179)

    Other Important Links:

    • Brainy Bites - Melina's LinkedIn Newsletter
    • 1995 Breyer's Ice Cream Commercial
    • Nudges Blog
    • Choice Architecture

    293. How Brands like Nike and Apple Master Multi-Narrative Storytelling, with Dr. Troy Campbell Jun 02, 2023
    Show notes

    The core idea of multi-narrative storytelling involves identifying a central message or concept that resonates with the audience and then expanding on it through a series of complementary stories. While each narrative can stand alone, together they create a comprehensive and compelling representation of the brand's identity and message.

    Two major brands that have successfully utilized multi-narrative storytelling in their marketing campaigns are Nike and Apple. Both brands have managed to create a global impact with their advertisements, encouraging consumers to connect with the brand on a personal level.

    By using multiple storylines, these giants have enabled their campaigns to resonate with a wide range of individuals, allowing for broader appeal and deeper emotional connections. During the podcast, Melina and Dr. Troy Campbell discuss how both Nike's "Just Do It" and Apple's "Think Different" campaigns are prime examples of effective multi-narrative storytelling. Companies can learn valuable lessons from these successful brands and apply the same techniques to their own business strategies. This episode will help you to:

    • Uncover the power of multi-narrative storytelling in enhancing brand communication.
    • Master the art of crafting a compelling personal brand identity through diverse stories.
    • Grasp the importance of themes, metaphors, and language in creating engaging narratives.
    • Cater to diverse customer groups by implementing a multi-narrative approach.
    • Gain insights from storytelling techniques employed by successful companies.
    Show Notes:
    • 00:00:00 - Introduction, Dr. Troy Campbell is back on The Brainy Business podcast (one of our few three-peat guests!) to talk about multi-narrative storytelling, building on his background as a former Disney Imagineer and Netflix Consumer Insights employee.
    • 00:05:02 - Shades of Black, Troy talks about how Netflix uses different shades of black to differentiate importance cues on their platform.
    • 00:11:19 - Definition of Multi-Narrative Storytelling, Multi-narrative storytelling involves telling a core story or idea through multiple complementary narratives. Nike and Apple's famous ad campaigns, "Just Do It" and "Think Different," are examples of multi-narrative storytelling.
    • 00:13:48 - Nike and Apple as Examples, The "Think Different" campaign started as a multi-narrative by showcasing the "misfits" and "rebels" who changed the world.
    • 00:15:10 - The Power of Multi-Narrative Storytelling, Multi-narrative storytelling is about getting a core idea across. It involves creating a core story that is the center of your messaging, which is surrounded by different stories that are used to convey your message. This technique involves using narratives that have associations with your brand that the audience will recognize. (As an example in the Apple campaign, showing a picture of Einstein is powerful because of the associations we all have with him and what his image means.)
    • 00:16:52 - Core Idea of Multi-Narrative Storytelling, The core idea of multi-narrative storytelling is to create a cause-and-effect story. It involves telling a story that explains who you are and what you're trying to achieve, and then surrounding that story with other narratives that support your message. You can use existing stories or create original ones.
    • 00:19:15 - Using Existing Stories as Associations, Multi-narrative storytelling can involve using existing stories as associations to convey your message. This technique involves using stories that your audience is already familiar with and borrowing elements of those stories to support your message. This approach makes it easier for your audience to understand and relate to your message.
    • 00:22:28 - The Power of Metaphor and Semiotics, Metaphor, semiotics, and word choice allow for a deeper level of understanding of how to convey messages. Using these techniques and creating a multi-narrative story around them can make the messaging more powerful and effective.
    • 00:30:36 - Multi-Narrative Storytelling, The concept of multi-narrative storytelling involves creating a core story with multiple examples or narratives that support it. This approach allows for flexibility in communication and can be used to convey complex or abstract ideas. Multi-narrative storytelling is useful in branding, marketing, and other areas of business where a clear and compelling message is necessary.
    • 00:32:19 - Just Do It, Nike's "Just Do It" slogan is specific enough to be relatable and broad enough to appeal to a wide range of audiences. This approach can be applied to other branding or marketing efforts by creating a core story that is supported by multiple narratives or examples.
    • 00:38:01 - Branding, Effective branding involves creating a core story that is supported by multiple narratives or examples. This approach allows for flexibility in communication and can help to appeal to a wider range of audiences. The branding of The Brainy Business podcast is an example of this approach, using a fun and relatable logo to convey complex ideas.
    • 00:41:29 - Thesis and Proof, Effective marketing involves creating a clear thesis and using specific examples to prove it. This approach can be used to convey complex or abstract ideas to a wider audience. The selection of imagery, titles, and stories should support the thesis and help to prove its validity.
    • 00:47:12 - The Power of Storytelling, The way Troy implements his "scientific mind and artistic heart" approach can help businesses understand and leverage techniques from other companies like Disney or Nike to improve their own storytelling strategies.
    • 00:47:43 - Multi-Narrative Storytelling, Companies can use multi-narrative storytelling to tie together narratives within their own organization, for the benefit of both customers and employees. Understanding the stories woven within a brand is essential for weaving them together to make a great brand.
    • 00:48:37 - Related Episodes, Other podcast episodes relating to storytelling include David Paull on behavioral storytelling, Dr. Michelle Auerbach, and Sam Evans. These episodes and their related materials are linked below.
    • 00:49:10 - Conclusion, Melina's top insights from the conversation. What stuck with you while listening to the episode? What are you going to try? Come share it with Melina on social media -- you'll find her as @thebrainybiz everywhere and as Melina Palmer on LinkedIn.

    Thanks for listening. Don't forget to subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Android. If you like what you heard, please leave a review on iTunes and share what you liked about the show.

    I hope you love everything recommended via The Brainy Business! Everything was independently reviewed and selected by me, Melina Palmer. So you know, as an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. That means if you decide to shop from the links on this page (via Amazon or others), The Brainy Business may collect a share of sales or other compensation.

    Let's connect:

    • Melina@TheBrainyBusiness.com
    • The Brainy Business® on Facebook
    • The Brainy Business on Twitter
    • The Brainy Business on Instagram
    • The Brainy Business on LinkedIn
    • Melina on LinkedIn
    • The Brainy Business on Youtube
    • Join the BE Thoughtful Revolution – our free behavioral economics community, and keep the conversation going!
    CONNECT WITH TROY
    • TROY'S WEBSITE
    • ON YOUR FEET
    • TROY ON LINKEDIN

    Learn and Support The Brainy Business:

    Check out and get your copies of Melina's Books.

    Get the Books Mentioned on (or related to) this Episode:

    • Choice Hacking, by Jennifer Clinehens
    • What Your Customer Wants and Can't Tell You, by Melina Palmer
    • The Experience Maker, by Dan Gingiss
    • Blindsight, by Matt Johnson and Prince Ghuman
    • Alchemy, by Rory Sutherland

    Top Recommended Next Episode: The Science of Cool, with Troy Campbell (ep 169)

    Already Heard That One? Try These:

    • Flip The Script! With Troy Campbell (ep 253)
    • Why We Like The Things We Like, with Prince Ghuman (ep 172)
    • Disney: Behavioral Economics Analysis (ep 292)
    • Starbucks: Behavioral Economics Analysis (ep 278)
    • Costco: Behavioral Economics Analysis (ep 47)
    • Peloton: Behavioral Economics Analysis (ep 86)
    • Choice Hacking, with Jennifer Clinehens (ep 141)
    • Social Proof (ep 87)
    • Priming (ep 252)
    • Peak-End Rule (ep 97)
    • Get Your D.O.S.E. of Brain Chemicals (ep 123)
    • Surprise and Delight (ep 276)
    • The Life-Saving Skill of Story, with Michelle Auerbach (ep 288)

    Other Important Links:

    Brainy Bites - Melina's LinkedIn Newsletter


    292. Disney's Magic: Nostalgia & Novelty in a World of Wonder (Refreshed Episode) May 30, 2023
    Show notes

    Creating brain-friendly experiences involves understanding how human psychology and behavioral principles can be integrated into the design of products and services. By recognizing and leveraging these concepts, brands can establish a stronger emotional connection with their customers and create experiences that resonate long after the interaction has ended. In the podcast, Melina Palmer advocates for infusing behavioral economics concepts into business practices and learning from Disney's approach. She encourages brands to delve into the "why" behind their existence and explore principles like framing, nudges, and nostalgia to foster lasting relationships with customers. The goal is to deliver unforgettable experiences that keep customers coming back for more, just as Disney has managed to do, time and again.

    • Discover the art of blending novelty and nostalgia to create Disney magic.
    • Unravel the secrets behind Disney's scarcity and identity-based marketing techniques.
    • Learn how to improve customer experience during those unavoidable wait times.
    • Implement Mickey's Ten Commandments and Imagineering Team's guiding principles.
    • Uncover brain-friendly storytelling methods that boost revenue generation.
    Show Notes:
    • 00:00:00 - Introduction, Melina introduces the podcast episode, which is about the behavioral economics of Disney. She talks about how Disney is part of our culture and upbringing and how it is a complex web of companies.
    • 00:06:42 - Disney's Focus on Innovation, Disney's focus on innovation and constantly working to be better has stuck with the company for over 90 years. They balance expectations with surprise and delight in a way that works with the brain's bias for the status quo.
    • 00:09:19 - Nostalgia, Disney embraces nostalgia in its parks, movies, and merchandise. They keep some things static over decades to evoke a feeling of nostalgia and balance it with new adaptations to keep it fresh.
    • 00:12:17 - Novelty and the IKEA Effect, Disney incorporates novelty and the IKEA effect, which is the idea that people value things they helped create. Disney has little surprises throughout its parks, like hidden Mickeys, and Easter eggs in its movies. They also let people create their own experience with the brand, like embroidering names onto Mickey ears.
    • 00:15:00 - Emotional Bonding, Being part of the fun and shaping the experience makes people emotionally bonded to the Disney brand. Helping pick out Mickey ears or discovering hidden Mickeys can prime memories and conversations and helps people like the brand more.
    • 00:16:07 - Scarcity and Buzz, Disney's scarcity of specialty ears creates buzz and excitement among park visitors, who love to follow the crowd. This generates social proof, making the limited item even more popular and highly sought after. It's a stroke of genius by Disney to create scarcity in a way that gets people talking about the brand.
    • 00:19:22 - Thoughtfulness in Experiences, Disney is known for being thoughtful in their experiences, making even the bad moments an experience all their own. By creating fun and engaging interactions including, hidden Mickeys, and themed line experiences, Disney turns waiting in a long line into a dopamine-generating, anticipation-building experience. This thoughtfulness is a gift that people repay with loyalty and fandom.
    • 00:23:18 - Mickey's Ten Commandments, Mickey's Ten Commandments are a set of guiding principles that define Disney's values and handbook. Two commandments that stand out are to "avoid overwhelm" and "tell one story at a time." By simplifying the customer experience, reducing decision fatigue, and thinking through every experience, Disney can remain the happiest place on Earth for over 65 years.
    • 00:28:17 - Imagineering Process, Disney's Imagineering Team goes through a process of asking questions to guide every new project, starting with what could it be and ending with how did we do? By using this process, Disney creates a flexible approach that allows for variety while still maintaining a high level of thoughtfulness and attention to detail.
    • 00:31:03 - Starting with Story, Disney starts by creating a great story and then builds everything around it. This approach is different from the standard approach where a product is created, and then a story is created around it. By starting with a story, Disney ensures that the audience is emotionally invested in the story and the products or services associated with it.
    • 00:31:51 - Brain-friendly Experiences, Brands can benefit from creating brain-friendly experiences by starting with a story. Starting with a story creates a sense of emotional investment and makes the experience more memorable. Incorporating various concepts from behavioral economics, such as framing, nudges, and nostalgia, can help create a more brain-friendly experience.
    • 00:33:36 - Insights and Inspiration, Disney is a master of creating a balance between novelty and nostalgia in their experiences. They recognize that people want to share their childhood experiences with future generations, and they create experiences that allow them to do so. Disney also pays attention to the true end of the experience, which is not when someone leaves the park, but when they can relive the experience through photos. Companies can learn from Disney by creating similar brain-friendly experiences.
    • 00:35:09 - Making Memories, Disney understood the true end of their experience, which was the moment when people could relive the experience through photos. They worked with Kodak to paint the park in colors that would look best when printed on photo paper, creating amazing, stellar pictures that helped make the memories stronger. Creating brain-friendly experiences involves paying attention to the details that make all the difference.
    • 00:35:08 - Conclusion, Melina's top insights from the conversation. What stuck with you while listening to the episode? What are you going to try? Come share it with Melina on social media -- you'll find her as @thebrainybiz everywhere and as Melina Palmer on LinkedIn.

    Thanks for listening. Don't forget to subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Android. If you like what you heard, please leave a review on iTunes and share what you liked about the show.

    I hope you love everything recommended via The Brainy Business! Everything was independently reviewed and selected by me, Melina Palmer. So you know, as an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. That means if you decide to shop from the links on this page (via Amazon or others), The Brainy Business may collect a share of sales or other compensation.

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    • Choice Hacking, by Jennifer Clinehens
    • What Your Customer Wants and Can't Tell You, by Melina Palmer
    • The Experience Maker, by Dan Gingiss
    • Blindsight, by Matt Johnson and Prince Ghuman
    • Alchemy, by Rory Sutherland

    Top Recommended Next Episode: Why We Like The Things We Like, with Prince Ghuman (ep 172)

    Already Heard That One? Try These:

    • Starbucks: Behavioral Economics Analysis (ep 278)
    • Costco: Behavioral Economics Analysis (ep 47)
    • Peloton: Behavioral Economics Analysis (ep 86)
    • Choice Hacking, with Jennifer Clinehens (ep 141)
    • Why Our Brains Love Nostalgia & Traditions (ep 79)
    • Social Proof (ep 87)
    • Priming (ep 252)
    • Peak-End Rule (ep 97)
    • Loss Aversion (ep 9)
    • Get Your D.O.S.E. of Brain Chemicals (ep 123)
    • Habits (ep 256)
    • Surprise and Delight (ep 276)
    • Status Quo Bias (ep 142)
    • IKEA Effect (ep 112)
    • Scarcity (ep 270)
    • Reciprocity (ep 238)
    • NUDGES & Choice Architecture (ep 35)
    • The Overwhelmed Brain and Its Impact on Decision Making (ep 32)

    Other Important Links:

    • Brainy Bites - Melina's LinkedIn Newsletter
    • The Psychology Behind Disney's "10 Commandments" for Experience Design
    • The Science Hiding in Mickey's Pixie Dust
    • Disney Proves That Profitable Marketing Is About Brand Stories
    • Be Like Disney: Why You Should Embrace Imagineering Principles in Branding
    • How Disney Built An Empire By Designing Brand Experience
    • Why are so many adults obsessed with Disney theme parks?
    • Here's an upside-down Mickey at the Big Thunder Mountain Railroad in Frontierland

    291. The Secret Sauce of Effective Decision-Making with Sam Evans May 26, 2023
    Show notes

    In order to design effective solutions, businesses need to have a clear understanding of the different types of decisions their customers make. Not all decisions are created equal, and handling them differently ensures better outcomes. Companies should avoid applying a one-size-fits-all approach, instead aiming for a tailored response that addresses the specific needs of each consumer decision. By having a better grasp of decision-making processes, businesses can create products, services, and experiences that truly resonate with their audiences.

    In this episode of The Brainy Business podcast, Sam Evans emphasizes the importance of diagnosing the decision before prescribing a solution. Instead of providing a standard response to every challenge or query, businesses should seek to comprehend the decision type, the question being asked, and the desired outcomes. Evans highlights that businesses must go beyond just addressing jobs to be done but also consider the deeper aspirations and self-identity of customers.

    • Uncover the pivotal role of the decision-making process in designing impactful solutions.
    • Create a practical decision spectrum to categorize customer decision-making styles.
    • Engage customers effectively while providing answers that direct them to optimal choices.
    • Explore the power of weaving engaging stories and emotions into the decision-making framework.
    • Devise immersive experiences that naturally drive customer engagement without forcefulness.
    Show Notes:
    • 00:00:00 - Introduction, Sam Evans, founder and CEO of Design for Decision, talks about his background in brand strategy and innovation and his passion for helping teams design products, services, and experiences that change behavior and drive growth.
    • 00:03:40 - From Reputation Management to Behavioral Science, Sam shares how his career has been about designing for behavior change, starting with reputation management and public affairs, then moving to brand strategy and innovation at Pepsi, and eventually launching Design for Decision.
    • 00:07:29 - Design for Decision's Mission, Sam talks about Design for Decision's mission to put the latest science of how people think, decide, and behave into action for the purpose of winning brand positioning, meaningful innovation, and more engaging cross-channel experiences for big brands, non-profits, and startups.
    • 00:09:27 - Connections with Behavioral Science Experts, Sam talks about his connections with behavioral science experts like Robert Cialdini, Steve Wendell, and Nir Eyal, and how he has integrated their ideas into his work at Design for Decision.
    • 00:14:31 - Designing for Decision, Sam explains how designing for decision is more than just designing for the jobs to be done, and how not all decisions are created equal. He talks about the importance of understanding the decision before designing anything and how businesses can do social good by helping people make more confident, effective, and efficient decisions.
    • 00:15:56 - Understanding Different Types of Decisions, Sam Evans emphasizes the need to move away from the assumption that all clients face the same challenges or require the same toolkit to solve their problems. He suggests that different types of decisions should be diagnosed first and then solutions prescribed to answer questions based on the decision-making needs of the customers.
    • 00:18:38 - The Decision Design Spectrum, Sam Evans introduces the idea of a decision design spectrum, which classifies different types of decisions into deliberation, default, and deciding. He explains that depending on where a decision falls on this spectrum, different tactics must be employed for effective engagement.
    • 00:21:08 - Educating vs Engaging, Sam differentiates between educating and engaging customers, citing the success of smoking cessation campaigns that used negative reinforcement instead of education to deter smoking. He recommends engaging customers in ways that inspire and answer their questions instead of educating them on why a product is important.
    • 00:25:18 - The Importance of Translating and Avoiding Math, Sam Evans advises businesses to avoid asking customers to do math and include technical jargon. Instead, communicate in simple language. He suggests providing familiar concepts and translating information to help customers make informed decisions.
    • 00:28:04 - Engaging Customers in the Right Way, Sam Evans highlights the success of brands like Amy's Kitchen in engaging customers through appealing visuals and inviting experiences. He suggests businesses find ways to engage customers based on their decision-making preferences, whether it's System 1 (subconscious) or System 2 (conscious).
    • 00:29:30 - Understanding Decision Making & Behavior, Sam Evans highlights the importance of understanding decision making and behavior. He emphasizes that it is crucial to diagnose the decision before prescribing the solution. He also notes that not all decisions are created equal, and it is essential to consider the type of decision before designing a solution.
    • 00:31:00 - Leading with Behavior, Sam and Melina discuss the importance of leading with behavior when it comes to growing a brand. Sam argues that focusing on behavior first is crucial because people buy based on behavior. He suggests that the emphasis should be on designing for behavior rather than forcing things on people.
    • 00:32:15 - Education vs. Behavior, Sam and Melina discuss the challenges of educating people about a product or service. They note that the goal is often to get people to care about something in the same way the company cares about it (which is a bad approach). Sam argues that it is more important to focus on designing an experience that is engaging and inviting rather than leading with education.
    • 00:33:40 - Behavioral Design for Good, Sam emphasizes that he would love to have more conversations with those who are trying to do good by people and change the world. He notes that private organizations, public organizations, nonprofit, and startups are all welcome to reach out to him. Sam highlights that the goal of behavioral design is to make a connection and design an amazing experience that is really engaging.
    • 00:38:02 - Conclusion, Melina's top insights from the conversation. What stuck with you while listening to the episode? What are you going to try? Come share it with Melina on social media -- you'll find her as @thebrainybiz everywhere and as Melina Palmer on LinkedIn.

    Thanks for listening. Don't forget to subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Android. If you like what you heard, please leave a review on iTunes and share what you liked about the show.

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    Get the Books Mentioned on (or related to) this Episode:

    • Indistractable, by Nir Eyal
    • Hooked, by Nir Eyal
    • Influence, by Robert Cialdini
    • What Your Customer Wants and Can't Tell You, by Melina Palmer
    • Designing for Behavior Change, by Steve Wendell

    Connect with Sam:

    • Design For Decision website
    • Sam on LinkedIn

    Top Recommended Next Episode: Become Indistractable, with Nir Eyal (ep 290)

    Already Heard That One? Try These:

    • Influence, with Robert Cialdini (ep 157)
    • Marketing to Mindstates, with Will Leach (ep 88)
    • Nudges and Choice Architecture (ep 35)
    • Priming (ep 252)
    • Designing for Behavior Change, with Steve Wendell (ep 116)
    • Behavioral Science in the Wild, with Dilip Soman (ep 241)
    • Cognitive Semiotics, with Sarah Thompson (ep 259)
    • Habit Weekly's Samuel Salzer (ep 284)
    • Get It Done, with Ayelet Fishbach (ep 186)

    Other Important Links:

    Brainy Bites - Melina's LinkedIn Newsletter


    290. Finding Balance in a Distracted World: Nir Eyal's Guide to Traction and Productivity May 23, 2023
    Show notes

    Dealing with distractions is a common challenge that many professionals face in their everyday lives. Traction (the opposite of distraction) is the force that drives us towards our goals and objectives, keeping us focused on the tasks that really matter. In order to combat distractions, it's vital to create a plan that outlines the necessary steps for achieving success. This includes setting clear objectives and breaking down goals into manageable tasks, while also allocating specific time for relaxation or personal enjoyment.

    By doing so, individuals can achieve a balanced life that fosters productivity and happiness. During this conversation with host Melina Palmer, Nir Eyal emphasized the importance of distinguishing between distraction and traction. Contrary to popular belief, the opposite of distraction isn't focus, but rather traction. Eyal explained that distractions are anything that pulls us away from our true goals, while traction is any action that brings us closer to achieving them. He urged listeners to create schedules that align with their values and to stick with them, ensuring that they devote the necessary time and focus to what truly matters.

    • Enhance concentration through gaining traction and structured planning to mitigate distractions.
    • Utilize technology with intention for peak productivity and enriching personal experiences.
    • Overcome internal triggers by comprehending the nature of discomfort and controlling urges.
    • Create value-driven schedules to bolster time management and sharpen focus.
    • Employ tactical tools and approaches to curb the influence of digital distractions.
    Show Notes:
    • 00:00:00 - Introduction, Melina Palmer introduces the episode and the guest, Nir Eyal, who is a behavioral designer. She talks about how Nir's book, Indistractable, helps people overcome distractions and become more productive.
    • 00:04:30 - Personal Reason for Writing Indistractable, Nir Eyal shares his personal reason for writing Indistractable. He talks about how he was distracted by his phone while spending time with his daughter. Research and personal testing made him realize the problem was much deeper than just technology. He decided to explore the root cause of distraction and find an answer that actually worked.
    • 00:09:40 - Distraction is an Old Problem, Nir talks about how distraction is not a new problem and has been with us for at least the past 2500 years. He explains how people have always blamed various forms of entertainment and technology for distracting them, and how it's lazy thinking to blame technology for distraction without understanding the root cause.
    • 00:11:14 - The Opposite of Distraction is Traction, Nir Eyal explains that the opposite of distraction is not focus, but traction. He defines traction as any action that pulls you towards what you want to do, and distraction as any action that pulls you away from what you plan to do. He emphasizes the importance of understanding the difference between the two.
    • 00:12:27 - Tools for Finding Balance, Nir Eyal talks about the importance of finding balance when it comes to using technology. He shares some tips and tricks anyone can use to help with this (a tiny sample of all the resources in his book).
    • 00:13:47 - Understanding Distractions and Traction, Nir Eyal explains that distraction is anything that pulls us away from what we planned to do and anything can be a distraction. Conversely, anything can be traction if we make time for it and plan it according to our values. Becoming indistractable means living with personal integrity and knowing why we got distracted.
    • 00:18:28 - The Root Cause of Distraction, Eyal identifies the root cause of distraction as our inability to deal with discomfort in a healthy manner. We use distraction as psychological pacification and escape uncomfortable emotions. To become indistractable, we must first learn to deal with the discomfort in a healthy way by fixing the source of discomfort or finding ways to cope.
    • 00:19:48 - Human Motivation, Nir explains that human motivation is not about the pursuit of pleasure and avoidance of pain but rather spurred by discomfort. We have two neural circuits, the liking system and the wanting system. The purpose of the wanting system is to create discomfort to get us to act. Time management is pain management, and to master distractions, we must first master internal triggers.
    • 00:22:21 - Time Management and Addiction, Addiction isn't just about substances or behaviors but is more about our need to escape from discomfort. We must fix the source of discomfort or learn to deal with it in a healthier way. Eyal shares the story of Dr. Zoe Chance, who became temporarily addicted to her pedometer as she was using it to escape her life.
    • 00:27:21 - The Evolution of Internal Triggers, Evolution has made us perpetually perturbed and hardwired for things like hedonic adaptation, rumination, and boredom to keep us searching for more. We are not designed by evolution to be satisfied, but to strive, search, want, and crave, which helped our species progress. The idea is to channel these uncomfortable sensations towards traction rather than distraction.
    • 00:29:21 - Mindset and Reimagining Temptation, Our brains are wired for mindset issues, and we need to reimagine our temperament to become indistractable. If we have an issue, we need to understand the root cause and channel our mindset towards traction instead of distraction. We can reimagine the task, trigger, or our temperament to master the internal triggers, which is crucial to becoming indistractable.
    • 00:32:00 - The Nuances of Technological Distraction, Our relationship with technology and other distractions is a nuanced discussion. Everything has unintended benefits and harms, and it is crucial to take a deeper look. We need to understand the good stuff that's happened and not just the negatives. If something is not serving us, we should disconnect and use what we want with intent.
    • 00:35:23 - The Story Behind the Moral Panic, Every moral panic throughout the years has had a scapegoat, and this time, it's technological distraction. It's dangerous to believe in scientifically unsupported theories, which leads to learned helplessness. The evidence is scant, and the story is much more nuanced.
    • 00:41:33 - Why We Need to Become Indistractable, Nir Eyal talks about how constant interruptions from Facebook and the news distract us and how hacking back our phones and offices can help us become indistractable.
    • 00:42:14 - How Distractions Come from Colleagues, Eyal discusses how distractions from colleagues in open-office plans can impede work progress and how a simple explicit message can help.
    • 00:43:10 - The Role of Pre-Commitments, Eyal explains how pre-commitments can help prevent distraction and promote personal integrity.
    • 00:48:29 - The Antidote to Impulsiveness, Eyal emphasizes that the antidote to impulsiveness is forethought and how we should use our ability to see into the future to plan ahead.
    • 00:50:08 - Conclusion, Melina's top insights from the conversation. What stuck with you while listening to the episode? What are you going to try? Come share it with Melina on social media -- you'll find her as @thebrainybiz everywhere and as Melina Palmer on LinkedIn.

    Thanks for listening. Don't forget to subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Android. If you like what you heard, please leave a review on iTunes and share what you liked about the show.

    I hope you love everything recommended via The Brainy Business! Everything was independently reviewed and selected by me, Melina Palmer. So you know, as an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. That means if you decide to shop from the links on this page (via Amazon or others), The Brainy Business may collect a share of sales or other compensation.

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    • Indistractable, by Nir Eyal
    • Hooked, by Nir Eyal
    • Influence is Your Superpower, by Zoe Chance
    • What Your Customer Wants and Can't Tell You, by Melina Palmer
    • What Your Employees Need and Can't Tell You, by Melina Palmer

    Connect with Nir:

    • Nirandfar.com
    • Nir on Twitter
    • Nir on LinkedIn

    Top Recommended Next Episode: Influence is Your Superpower, by Zoe Chance

    Already Heard That One? Try These:

    • Availability (ep 15)
    • Habits (ep 256)
    • The Power of Habit (ep 22)
    • How to Set, Achieve & Exceed Brainy Goals (ep 70)
    • Tips To Overcome Imposter Syndrome (ep 13)
    • How to Get (and Stay) Motivated (ep 67)
    • Resolutions and Keeping Commitments (ep 29)
    • Sense of Hearing (ep 27)
    • How To Organize Your Brain with Behavioral Economics (ep 83)
    • Bikeshedding (ep 99)
    • Planning Fallacy (ep 114)
    • Temptation Bundling (ep 250)

    Other Important Links:

    • Brainy Bites - Melina's LinkedIn Newsletter
    • 3 Ways You Can Limit Everyday Distractions
    • How This Year's Nobel Prize Winning Research in Economics Can Help Your Business

    289. The Art of Behavioral Storytelling: How David Paull Captivates Audiences May 19, 2023
    Show notes

    In today's fast-paced world, attention spans are shorter than ever. By making stories concise, engaging, and to the point, marketers can cater to the needs of overwhelmed audiences while still delivering powerful messages. Short stories leave out unnecessary details while retaining the most critical elements, ultimately making them more memorable and easier to digest.

    David Paull considers short stories to be particularly useful tools in marketing and communications. He cites the popularity of TED Talks as evidence that people are drawn to concise yet impactful stories. In the podcast, he discusses the importance of refining messages through a careful editing process, distilling them down to their most essential aspects, and making them as powerful and engaging as possible. In this episode:

    • Unleash the potential of behavioral storytelling to revolutionize your branding and marketing efforts.
    • Learn how Dialsmith dials offer an innovative way to non-consciously measure audience reactions.
    • Discover how to implement the RSPCT framework for designing impactful and convincing messages.
    • Realize the significance of concise, emotionally charged stories for capturing your audience's interests.
    • Leverage testimonials and social proof to amplify your persuasion techniques.
    Show Notes:
    • 00:00:00 - Introduction, Melina Palmer introduces David Paull, CEO of Dialsmith and founder of Lillian Labs. She highlights David's expertise in using storytelling to build brands and introduces his behavioral storytelling framework.
    • 00:04:02 - Dialsmith, David Paull talks about Dialsmith, his insights technology company that develops dials used in focus groups during presidential debates and State of the Union addresses. He also discusses the online version of the dials and the consultancy arm of the company, Lillian Labs.
    • 00:11:56 - Storytelling, David shares his journey in becoming interested in storytelling through his work on strategic communications and messaging. He talks about how he got involved with the Story Conference in Nashville and the experiments and thought exercises he did on cognitive biases and behavioral economics.
    • 00:15:33 - Behavioral Storytelling, David Paul explains how he blends insights and storytelling to create behavioral storytelling. He provides an example of working with clients on climate issues and how they isolate the real problem and test their messaging with the market. The goal is to take the audience on an emotional or intellectual journey that leads to action.
    • 00:19:25 - TEDxPortland, David Paul discusses his involvement with TEDxPortland, the largest indoor TEDx in the world. He talks about the importance of having a diverse group of speakers and how they select the speakers for the event.
    • 00:16:25 - The RSPCT Framework, David Paull discusses his RSPCT Framework, which involves determining the real problem for the target audience, understanding what's at stake if the problem is not solved, identifying the perfect outcome, crafting an effective call to action, and providing testimonials and social proof for added credibility.
    • 00:19:23 - The Danger of Stressing the Problem, Melina Palmer and David Paull discuss how stressing the problem too much can lead to unintentional normalization of the behavior you want to change. Instead, they highlight the importance of including testimonials and social proof to make the audience feel comfortable with the solution being proposed.
    • 00:24:56 - Tips on Delivering a TED Talk, David Paull shares his experience as a speaker coach for TEDxPortland. He emphasizes the importance of keeping talks short, with a focus on big original ideas and tangible takeaways. He also recommends a strong emphasis on editing to distill the message down to its most essential elements.
    • 00:27:38 - The Power of Short Stories, Melina Palmer and David Paull highlight the power of a short story to convey complex ideas in a short amount of time. They use examples from famous TED Talks, including one that was only two minutes and fifty-two seconds long. They emphasize the importance of making every word count to deliver a compelling message that resonates with the audience.
    • 00:30:24 - Make It as Short as Possible, David Paull shares a quote from Albert Einstein about making scientific work.
    • 00:31:51 - Finding the Real Problem, The first step in problem-solving is identifying the real problem. Keep peeling back the layers until you find the underlying issue by asking "why" until there's nowhere else to go. Then determine what's at stake and what the perfect outcome would be if the problem is solved.
    • 00:32:34 - Using Storytelling to Evoke Emotion, Describing the perfect outcome in a way that can be felt is crucial. Storytelling evokes emotion, making it easier for people to make a decision. The call to action should demonstrate how your solution solves the real problem, alleviates what's at stake, and delivers the perfect outcome.
    • 00:33:13 - Testimonials and Social Proof, Sharing testimonials and social proof will help people feel comfortable. It's important to tap into how people process information and make decisions. Using quantifiable data is better than squishy information when demonstrating the effectiveness of a solution.
    • 00:33:47 - Additional Resources, The podcast episode mentions additional resources, including episodes on Herding and Social Proof, as well as a link to Michelle Auerbach's episode on the importance of emotion in decision-making. All resources can be found here in the show notes.
    • 00:34:08 - Conclusion, Melina's top insights from the conversation, a recap of the RSPCT framework, and items for you to consider as you implement what you learn. What stuck with you while listening to the episode? What are you going to try? Come share it with Melina on social media -- you'll find her as @thebrainybiz everywhere and as Melina Palmer on LinkedIn.

    Thanks for listening. Don't forget to subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Android. If you like what you heard, please leave a review on iTunes and share what you liked about the show.

    I hope you love everything recommended via The Brainy Business! Everything was independently reviewed and selected by me, Melina Palmer. So you know, as an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. That means if you decide to shop from the links on this page (via Amazon or others), The Brainy Business may collect a share of sales or other compensation.

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    Get the Books Mentioned on (or related to) this Episode:

    • The Life-Saving Skill of Story, by Michelle Auerbach
    • Ted Talks: The Official TED Guide to Public Speaking, by Chris Anderson
    • Contagious, by Jonah Berger
    • A More Beautiful Question, by Warren Berger
    • Daring Greatly, by Brene Brown

    Connect with David:

    • DavidPaull.com
    • David on Twitter
    • David on LinkedIn

    Top Recommended Next Episode: The Power of Storytelling, Michelle Auerbach

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    288. Empathy, Storytelling, and Success: A Conversation with Michelle Auerbach (Refreshed Episode) May 16, 2023
    Show notes

    Stories have a tremendous impact on the way we perceive the world and make decisions. They are deeply rooted in our human nature and can be incredibly effective for marketing and brand strategy. Utilizing storytelling in marketing creates an emotional connection with the audience, which is integral for influencing decisions and shaping behavior. Stories have a unique ability to captivate attention, evoke emotions, and create a sense of empathy with the characters, all of which are powerful tools for businesses to reach their target customers.

    During the podcast, Michelle Auerbach shared the importance of focusing on a specific character or situation when crafting a story, to achieve a strong emotional impact. By providing a relatable context, stories can effectively communicate complex messages and ideas that may get lost or appear less engaging when presented as plain data or statistics. Auerbach emphasized that incorporating storytelling into marketing and brand strategy can be an essential factor for success, as it encourages the audience to connect with the brand and take action that benefits everyone involved.

    • Master the art of storytelling for influencing human behavior and boosting your business potential.
    • Implement the three-point story arc for powerful communication and establishing deeper connections.
    • Trigger emotions through captivating storytelling techniques that drive decision-making and prompt action.
    • Reinforce group cohesion and empathy through genuine and relatable stories.
    Show Notes:
    • 00:00:00 - Introduction, Melina introduces the episode and its focus on the power of story. She explains that over the next few weeks, there will be guests discussing various aspects of storytelling in life and business.
    • 00:03:14 - Michelle Auerbach's Background, Michelle talks about her childhood and her love for stories, which led her to pursue a degree in literature and a career in teaching that as well as ancient world languages. She then transitioned to organizational change and leadership development, using storytelling to help organizations develop culture and change.
    • 00:06:01 - Story's Role in Change Management, Michelle explains how story impacts change management in several ways. Story has a somatic impact on the brain, helps with co-regulation, facilitates learning, and helps people see possibilities they wouldn't otherwise see. Story also helps people focus and remember information, and it produces cortisol and oxytocin, which encourage pro-social behavior.
    • 00:11:10 - The Power of Story in Marketing and Brand Strategy, Melina and Michelle discuss how storytelling is used in marketing and brand strategy. Michelle explains that storytelling can help organizations connect with their audience by creating empathy and helping people understand the impact of their work. By focusing on one person's story, it can create a powerful emotional response and motivate people to take action.
    • 00:13:29 - The Biology of Storytelling, Michelle explains the biology of storytelling and how it impacts the brain. Story produces cortisol and oxytocin, which help people focus and remember.
    • 00:14:50 - The Importance of Storytelling in Business Michelle shares her expertise in storytelling and how it can be applied to business. She emphasizes the power of story in bridging gaps in communication, sharing scientific information, and even changing perspectives. She also suggests a simple three-part story structure that can be used in presentations, conversations, and even conflict resolution.
    • 00:19:28 - Different Story Structures Michelle talks about the diversity of story structures found in different cultures and how they can be used in storytelling. She gives examples of Japanese and West African story structures and emphasizes the importance of not forcing one's own story structure on others. She also suggests ways to learn about other people's favorite stories and how it can build affinity and rapport.
    • 00:25:06 - Using Story Cubes to Open Up Melina shares her experience using Story Cubes in her workshops to help people open up and share more about themselves. Story Cubes are a fun tool that uses images to trigger memories and stories that people might not have shared otherwise. Michelle also shares her love for Story Cubes and how they can help people tap into different parts of their memories and experiences.
    • 00:27:00 - Priming with Storytelling Michelle talks about the concept of priming and how it can be used in storytelling to set the tone and mood for an event or meeting. She gives examples of how organizations with a strong "why" or Credo can use storytelling to bring that purpose into the room and lead from that place.
    • 00:28:59 - Using Story Cards, Michelle created story cards with pictures from art students to help people tell stories and add visuals to presentations. The details in stories evoke feelings that anchor learning and change.
    • 00:30:25 - Using Visuals in Storytelling, Adding visuals to storytelling evokes feelings in another way and helps with group cohesion. It's using our biology to benefit learning and decision-making functions.
    • 00:33:01 - Overcoming Biases with Storytelling, Storytelling helps overcome biases, especially status quo bias, by evoking feelings in the decision-making processes. It's important to make people feel the impact of a situation rather than just presenting data.
    • 00:37:51 - Top Tips for Using Storytelling, Start by listening to other people's stories and figuring out what you like and what's possible for you to do. Practice being a good story listener and asking story questions. Then, tell stories from an authentic place and don't tell people how to feel about a situation. Instead, ask them to tell you about their own experiences.
    • 00:41:26 - Storytelling for Behavior Change, Michelle shares her experience in Japan, where a doorman's story about wearing masks "for politeness" helped her quickly change her behavior. When telling stories, it's important to share your own motivations rather than telling people what to do or feel.
    • 00:43:20 - The Power of Story, Michelle explains that storytelling has been part of human culture for thousands of years. She shares that stories are powerful because they evoke emotions, which are needed to make decisions. A good story is relatable and makes abstract concepts more tangible. By telling stories, you can help people understand and feel your message.
    • 00:44:16 - Everyone Can Tell a Story, Michelle encourages people to embrace their storytelling skills. She says that everyone is born with the ability to tell a story and it's a skill that can be developed. Michelle suggests that to become a better storyteller, you should listen to stories and figure out your own storytelling style. Don't try to be someone else because it will be inauthentic and not work as well.
    • 00:45:30 - Using Storytelling in Business, Michelle explains that storytelling can be used in business to help with change management, persuasive presentations, and creating compelling sales pitches. She recommends using a simple structure to tell stories, answering the questions: what's going on, what did you do, and what happened. The right metaphors and connections can make a story more powerful.
    • 00:48:30 - Connecting Through Stories, Michelle shares that she includes a recipe in her weekly newsletter because food is part of cultural stories. She believes that by sharing stories and experiences, you can create connections with people. Michelle encourages people to use stories to engage with others and make them feel something.
    • 00:49:13 - Conclusion, Melina's top insights from the conversation, a recap of Michelle's three-part storytelling framework, and items for you to consider as you implement what you learned. What stuck with you while listening to the episode? What are you going to try? Come share it with Melina on social media -- you'll find her as @thebrainybiz everywhere and as Melina Palmer on LinkedIn.

    Thanks for listening. Don't forget to subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Android. If you like what you heard, please leave a review on iTunes and share what you liked about the show.

    I hope you love everything recommended via The Brainy Business! Everything was independently reviewed and selected by me, Melina Palmer. So you know, as an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. That means if you decide to shop from the links on this page (via Amazon or others), The Brainy Business may collect a share of sales or other compensation.

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    • The Life-Saving Skill of Story, by Michelle Auerbach
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    • What Your Customer Wants and Can't Tell You, by Melina Palmer
    • Alchemy, by Rory Sutherland

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    • Overview of Personal Biases (ep 45)
    • Biases Toward Others – Including Groups (ep 46)
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    287. Unlocking the Microstress Mystery with Dr. Rob Cross May 12, 2023
    Show notes

    The manner in which we communicate plays an essential role in contributing to or easing microstress. With the proliferation of remote work and numerous communication channels, it is vital to be mindful and intentional in our communication with colleagues and acquaintances. Establishing positive communication norms can alleviate microstress and create a more collaborative and productive work environment. Rob Cross highlighted the need for thoughtful communication in his conversation with Melina Palmer. He shared that teams should establish clear communication norms, such as using bullet points rather than lengthy paragraphs, avoiding unnecessary CC in emails, and refraining from sending messages after a particular time. By adopting such positive communication practices, teams can work towards fostering a supportive workplace culture and minimizing the impact of microstress on all members.

    • Unveil the methods for recognizing and neutralizing everyday workplace microstressors to elevate your work experience.
    • Comprehend the ramifications of toxic relationships on your well-being and establish pathways for transformation.
    • Benefit from Rob Cross's research on the microstress effect and its applications to your personal and professional sphere.
    • Refine your communication skills to address microstress mindfully and cultivate enriching connections.
    • Bring about small alterations that result in remarkable betterment of your holistic well-being.
    Show Notes:
    • 00:00:00 - Introduction, Host Melina Palmer introduces Dr. Rob Cross, who is the Edward A. Madden Professor of Global Leadership at Babson College and the co-founder and director of the Connected Commons. The episode is about the new book he co-authored with Karen Dillon, The Microstress Effect.
    • 00:03:02 - Background, Rob Cross talks about his background and his work with the Connected Commons, a consortium of over 150 leading organizations that sponsor research into ways of looking at networks and relationships in organizations.
    • 00:06:32 - The Impact of Negative Relationships, Social psychology has shown that the negative interactions we have tend to have 3x to 5x the impact of the positive. Rob Cross shares his thoughts on the best practices for organizations to cultivate relationships that positively impact their employees' wellbeing.
    • 00:08:15 - Resilience and Connections, Resilience is not just about grit and fortitude. It's about how we fall back on others in difficult times. Rob Cross discovered that there are eight predictable things we get from others when we have the connections in our lives. Without these, it's harder to navigate through difficult times.
    • 00:12:23 - Understanding Microstress, Rob Cross shares how he stumbled onto the idea of microstress through his research. He found that there are 14 pretty consistent types of microstress that tend to accumulate around us each day and week at a pace and volume our brains just aren't designed to handle. These microstresses grow behind the scenes in a way that sneaks up on us until they become overwhelming.
    • 00:14:55 - The Impact of Microstress, Rob discusses the impact of microstress on one's life, particularly when they are not aware of it. He talks about how the stress is just beneath the surface of awareness and can be creeping up on us.
    • 00:17:09 - Types of Microstress, Rob explains that microstressors can come from different sources, including emails, instant messaging applications, and team collaborative spaces. He shares that it affects the metabolism differently, and people under this form of stress metabolize their meals differently.
    • 00:22:44 - Cascading Effects of Microstress, Rob shares that microstressors can lead to cascading effects that people don't often think about. For example, a leader or stakeholder that shifts expectations can cause extra work, and employees may have to protect their team and go back into the team to keep engagement high.
    • 00:24:24 - Tips on Dealing with Microstress, Rob suggests a table in the book with the 14 microstressors and categories of people where they come from, and answering three questions around them. He advises people to think about which stressors have become systemic in their lives and what stress they are creating for others. Rob also mentions the importance of finding groups outside of one's profession that they can be an authentic part of.
    • 00:27:15 - Avoiding Getting into the Minutiae, Rob suggests focusing on getting out of the minutiae by finding groups outside one's profession that one can be an authentic part of. He shares that people who are happiest in this work typically have at least two or three groups outside their profession.
    • 00:28:27 - The Impact of Traumatic Events, When experiencing a traumatic health diagnosis or event, people often reflect on what previously seemed important and realize it was insignificant. Those who maintain dimensionality in their life are better equipped to handle such events. Reflecting on interactions and adapting them can have a significant impact on how one feels day-to-day.
    • 00:30:24 - The Impact of Communication on Stress, Poor communication habits, such as overdramatizing gossip or sending excessive emails, can lead to unnecessary stress and negative work interactions. Thoughtful and intentional communication, such as establishing positive norms and reducing unnecessary communication, can help reduce microstressors.
    • 00:34:06 - Decreasing Collaboration Overload, Collaboration overload, where the amount of collaboration outweighs the increase in work, is a significant source of microstressors. By creating positive norms, such as bullet points instead of long paragraphs, or agreeing on a set number of emails per day, the collaborative footprint of work can be reduced.
    • 00:37:36 - The Impact of Small Communication Habits, Small communication habits, such as sending vague or poorly-worded emails or leaving a negative aftertaste in interactions, can accumulate and have a significant impact on work stress levels. Thoughtful interactions, such as being intentional with emails or setting clear expectations for team collaborations, can help reduce microstressors.
    • 00:41:20 - The Impact of Trust and Expectations, Lack of trust and unclear expectations can lead to stress when working on collaborative projects. People often work harder to compensate for small misses from team members, perpetuating the cycle of stress. Setting clear expectations and building trust can help reduce microstressors in collaborative work environments.
    • 00:42:12 - Drains to Capacity, The 14 microstressors that affect our ability to get work done can be categorized as drains to capacity that hit us emotionally (such as worry or concern for people we care about), or value disconnects, where we slowly feel interactions moving us away from who we set out to be.
    • 00:43:28 - Counterfactual Thinking, Dwelling on what had happened or what might happen in the future can be a big contributor to microstress. This can be interactions abroad where we are trying to protect our team, family, or friends. It can also be a conflictual conversation that needs to happen, which can cause disproportionate stress.
    • 00:45:23 - Specific Ways to Manage Conflictual Conversations, Conflictual conversations can be cathartic and good for people if we keep things data-driven and do specific things. We tend to think a lot about it before, during, and after the interaction, and this can cause stress. There are specific ways to handle conflictual conversations that can reduce stress.
    • 00:47:10 - Importance of Small Stuff, Small stressors in our lives and those of people around us can cause massive amounts of stress that are totally unnecessary. Often, we don't realize the impact that our actions are having on others. The book, The Microstress Effect, provides charts and mockups of questions to ask and ways to work through microstress to have an impact on our lives and those around us.
    • 00:49:31 - Closing Thoughts, Melina's top insights from the conversation, and items for you to consider as you implement what you learn. What stuck with you while listening to the episode? What are you going to try? Come share it with Melina on social media -- you'll find her as @thebrainybiz everywhere and as Melina Palmer on LinkedIn.

    Thanks for listening. Don't forget to subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Android. If you like what you heard, please leave a review on iTunes and share what you liked about the show.

    I hope you love everything recommended via The Brainy Business! Everything was independently reviewed and selected by me, Melina Palmer. So you know, as an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. That means if you decide to shop from the links on this page (via Amazon or others), The Brainy Business may collect a share of sales or other compensation.

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