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    The Biblical Mind

    The Biblical Mind is dedicated to helping its audience understand how the biblical authors thought, promoting Bible fluency through curious, careful reading of Scripture. It is hosted by Dr. Dru Johnson and published by the Center for Hebraic Thought, a hub for research and resources on the intellectual world of the Bible.

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    Can Muslims, Jews, and Christians Talk About Science and Scripture? (Dru Johnson) Ep. #196 Apr 17, 2025
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    What happens when you put 15 scholars—scientists and theologians, Muslim, Jewish, and Christian—in a room to talk about creation? In this episode of The Biblical Mind Podcast, Dr. Dru Johnson shares his experience launching the Abrahamic Theistic Origins Project in Oxford.

    Far from being a formal academic conference, the gathering focused on “enduring collegial co-learning”—building trust and curiosity across disciplines and faith traditions. The participants explored how evolutionary biology, genetics, astrophysics, and artificial intelligence intersect with theological questions about human uniqueness, creation, and divine action.

    Dru explains why religious identity didn’t hinder the conversation—it enriched it, and why the bigger challenge was translating between scientists and theologians. He also shares a fascinating insight on Neanderthals and menopause, and how that single biological feature opens a window into intergenerational care, legacy, and biblical values.

    The project raises bold questions: Can we build a biblical philosophy of science? Does Hebraic thought inform scientific methods? And what does it look like to think with Scripture—not just about it—in a scientific age?

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    00:00 Exploring Creation Theology and Science
    02:58 Building Collegial Relationships Among Scholars
    05:43 Navigating Interfaith Dialogues
    08:52 Understanding Diverse Perspectives on Origins
    13:59 The Intersection of Science and Theistic Beliefs
    21:40 Christian Views on Human Origins
    30:08 Pragmatism and Empiricism in Biblical Thought

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    Syndicated: Jesus and Jewish Law (Logan Williams and Paul Sloan) Ep. #195 Apr 10, 2025
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    Was the Mosaic Law a burdensome set of rules meant to be broken? Did Jesus overthrow the Torah—or fulfill it? In this special episode of The Biblical Mind Podcast, we revisit the pilot episode of the Jesus and the Jewish Law podcast, hosted by Paul Sloan and Logan Williams. Together, they walk through seven widespread misconceptions about the Law and how these misunderstandings distort our reading of both the Old and New Testaments.

    You’ll hear why the Law was never meant to be a ladder to earn salvation, how it was designed to maintain God’s presence among His people, and why ritual purity doesn’t equal sin. They also explore the difference between distinction and exclusion, how the Law does not uniformly obligate all humans, and how Jesus builds on—not breaks—the Torah’s ethical depth.

    If you’ve ever wrestled with questions about the sacrificial system, purity laws, Gentile inclusion, or what Jesus really meant in the Sermon on the Mount, this episode offers a clear, accessible, and richly Hebraic guide to reading the Law like Jesus did.

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    00:00 Introduction
    02:01 Misconceptions About the Law: An Overview
    05:57 Debunking Misconceptions: The Nature of the Law
    12:08 Understanding Impurity and Its Implications
    17:59 The Role of Sacrifice in the Law
    20:02 Conclusion and Future Topics

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    ICYMI - Wisdom of Primal Peoples in the Era of World Christianity (Jangkholam Haokip) Ep. #194 Apr 03, 2025
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    This episode was originally published on November 11, 2022. We thought it was worth a reissue for our newer listeners.

    Christianity is a truly global religion, and every strand of Christianity has its own theological emphases. Western Christians tend to focus on individual salvation and the question of what happens when we die. But as we amplify other Christian voices, we find that the riches of the gospel might stretch far beyond our original conceptions.

    In this episode, Dru interviews Dr. Jangkholam Haokip, an Indian theologian, author, and former professor. Growing up in Churachandpur, Manipur, in Northeast India, Jangkholam converted to Christianity as a child. Drawing on his experiences with indigenous Indian culture and religion, he had the opportunity to develop a unique perspective on Christian theology, including Scripture's portrayal of sin's effects on nature, the value of yet-unheard perspectives, and the way that the gospels can affect the lives of whole communities.

    After his long career as a professor at Union Biblical Seminary in India, Jangkholam has founded the Bethesda-Khankho Foundation, which aims to transform indigenous Indian communities through education and poverty outreach. He also contributed to the recent book Voices from the Margins: Wisdom of Primal Peoples in the Era of World Christianity.

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    0:00 Introduction

    1:22 Converting to Christianity

    5:03 Further education and understanding the gospel

    8:51 Individualism in Western Christianity

    15:09 Sin and the health of nature

    20:10 Tribal Indian thought in the biblical texts and Western theology

    25:48 The value of indigenous theology

    29:47 Christianity as a help for Indian history, identity, and culture

    31:05 On Jangkholam's new book Voices from the Margins: Wisdom of Primal Peoples in the Era of World Christianity

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    Is God Really Unchanging? Challenging Classical Theism’s View of God (R.T. Mullins) Ep. #193 Mar 27, 2025
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    Is God emotionless and unchanging? Many systematic theologians have long argued that God is completely impassible—meaning He cannot feel, suffer, or be influenced by creation. But is this truly what the Bible teaches?

    In this episode, Dr. R.T. Mullins joins The Biblical Mind Podcast to challenge traditional ideas about God’s nature, emotions, and engagement with the world. He explains how philosophy has often shaped theology more than scripture, why systematic theologians ignore biblical descriptions of God’s emotions, and what it actually means to call God all-powerful and all-knowing.

    Dru and R.T. explore the hidden assumptions behind classical theism, why ancient theologians rejected the idea that God could suffer, and whether modern theology needs a reset. Mullins also discusses how our view of God shapes how we pray, worship, and think about suffering.

    If you’ve ever wondered why theology sometimes feels disconnected from the Bible, or why certain doctrines sound more like philosophy than scripture, this episode will challenge you to rethink how we describe God.

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    Chapters:

    00:00 Understanding the Doctrine of God
    03:21 Concepts of God: Models and Attributes
    06:23 The Role of Scripture in Systematic Theology
    09:15 Historical Perspectives on God's Attributes
    12:21 Philosophical Underpinnings of Theological Claims
    15:12 The Challenge of Defining God's Perfections
    18:04 Empathy and Knowledge in God's Nature
    21:13 The Intersection of Philosophy and Scripture
    24:11 Concluding Thoughts on God's Nature
    30:53 The Nature of God's Communication
    33:08 Empathy and the Divine: A Theological Dilemma
    36:18 Impassibility and the Perfection of God
    38:45 The Role of Empathy in Hebrew Moral Philosophy
    41:44 The Disconnect Between Systematic Theology and Biblical Texts
    45:28 Cultural Perspectives on Biblical Literature
    47:16 Upcoming Projects: Debates and Collaborative Works

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    Why We Struggle to Read the Bible—And How to Fix It (Alex Goodwin) Ep. #192 Mar 20, 2025
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    What if the way we format and structure the Bible is actually making it harder to read? In this episode, Alex Goodwin joins The Biblical Mind Podcast to discuss how chapter breaks, verse numbers, and footnotes—while useful for study—can actually disrupt the natural flow of Scripture.

    Alex shares his journey from marketing to Bible publishing, how his first exposure to serious theology transformed his faith, and why modern Bible formatting has fundamentally changed how people engage with Scripture. He and Dru explore how early Christians and Jews experienced the Bible (hint: it wasn’t through personal quiet times with a study Bible), why reading big sections matters, and how removing unnecessary “additives” can help us better understand the biblical story.

    This episode also tackles the difference between Bible literacy and Bible fluency, the power of listening to Scripture, and why engaging the Bible in community leads to richer understanding. If you’ve ever struggled with Bible reading, this conversation will challenge and inspire you to rethink how you interact with Scripture.

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    00:00 From Marketing to Ministry: A Journey of Faith
    04:47 The Impact of Formatting on Bible Reading
    09:10 Bible Sales vs Bible Literacy
    13:21 The Bible Reset
    17:34 Listening vs. Reading: Engaging with Scripture in New Ways
    20:41 Pursuing Biblical Fluency
    27:08 The Concept of a Bible Reset
    31:25 Reevaluating Church Practices
    36:52 Engaging with Scripture in Community
    40:55 The Role of the Congregation in Biblical Literacy

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    Faith, Politics, and Media: Rethinking Christian Political Involvement (Kaitlyn Schiess) Ep. #191 Mar 13, 2025
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    Are we mistaking media consumption for political engagement? In this episode, Kaitlyn Schiess joins The Biblical Mind Podcast to challenge the way Christians think about politics, faith, and media. She explains why binge-watching C-SPAN or endlessly scrolling Twitter doesn’t make us politically engaged—but actually forms us into people less capable of real advocacy.

    Dru and Kaitlyn discuss the modern obsession with national politics, why Christians ignore their local communities, and how the church provides a model of meaningful engagement. Instead of trying to "change the world" through social media outrage, Kaitlyn argues that real political involvement means knowing your neighbors, understanding local government, and prioritizing embodied relationships.

    They also explore the role of Christian media consumption, asking whether 24-hour news, partisan social feeds, and political influencers have become a form of secular discipleship. How can Christians discern which voices are trustworthy? And how can the church offer a healthier alternative?

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    00:00 Misunderstandings in Political Engagement
    03:45 The Impact of 24-Hour News Cycle
    07:13 Agency and Exhaustion in Political Involvement
    09:46 Local vs. National Political Engagement
    13:52 The Role of Community and Church
    16:17 Listening to Trustworthy Voices
    25:02 Understanding Local Politics Through Community Engagement
    26:14 The Importance of Recognizing Underlying Narratives
    28:18 The Challenge of Political Discourse in Faith Communities
    31:09 The Role of Stories in Shaping Political Beliefs
    34:44 Navigating Conspiracy Theories in Faith Contexts
    37:12 The Need for Meaningful Conversations in Churches
    40:00 The Impact of Media Consumption on Relationships
    41:51 Reality TV and Its Moral Implications

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    From the Five Percent Nation to Biblical Scholar: CHT Fellow Hakeem Bradley Ep. #190 Mar 06, 2025
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    What if the Bible isn’t meant to be neatly packaged and easily explained? In this episode, CHT Fellow Hakeem Bradley joins The Biblical Mind Podcast to discuss how engaging scripture means leaning into tension rather than eliminating it. He explains why asking better questions leads to deeper understanding and why forcing Jesus into every Old Testament passage can sometimes do more harm than good.

    Bradley also shares his personal story—growing up in the Five Percent Nation, a movement that sees the Black man as divine, and how a surprising mentorship relationship led him to faith in Jesus. His journey from deep skepticism to biblical scholarship gives him a unique perspective on how to approach scripture without assumptions or shortcuts.

    The conversation explores how biblical authors thought, why Jesus himself had to read scripture in context, and how reading the Bible as a tension-filled conversation—rather than a collection of easy answers—can reshape faith and theology.

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    Chapters:
    00:00 Introduction
    02:08 Navigating Questions on Creation and Biblical Interpretation
    06:01 The Role of Tension in Understanding Scripture
    10:01 Hakeem's Journey from Five Percenter to Follower of Jesus
    18:31 The Importance of the Old Testament in Understanding Jesus
    22:15 Personal Journeys in Biblical Understanding
    23:11 The Challenge of Connecting Old Testament to Jesus
    25:50 Understanding Biblical Texts on Their Own Terms
    29:31 The Role of the Bible Project in Modern Scholarship
    33:34 Exploring the Catholic Epistles and Their Significance
    38:47 Intertextual Connections in Biblical Texts

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    The Contemporary Worship Music Pipeline, or "Where Did The Psalms Go?" (Marc Jolicoeur) Ep. #189 Feb 27, 2025
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    Who decides what worship songs we sing in church? It turns out, worship music is a massive industry, and the way songs make it from a Nashville songwriting room to a Sunday morning service might surprise you.

    In this episode, Marc Jolicoeur joins The Biblical Mind Podcast to break down the business of contemporary worship music (CWM). He explains how four major megachurches dominate the industry, why most modern worship songs are written by teams of professionals rather than individual artists, and how CCLI licensing and copyright structures shape what gets sung in churches.

    But is this market-driven approach shaping worship in unhealthy ways? Dru and Marc discuss whether the emotional tone of worship music has shifted, why lament and imprecatory psalms are almost absent from today’s songs, and whether churches should return to singing scripture itself.

    Is the worship music we sing today more about marketing than theology? And what would happen if the Psalms were reintroduced into Sunday services?

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    00:00 Introduction
    00:27 The Landscape of Worship Music
    04:25 The Role of Songwriters and Publishing
    10:35 Market Penetration of Worship Songs
    16:33 The Influence of Megachurches on Worship Music
    21:11 The Evolution of Christian Music
    25:48 Worship Music vs. Performance Music
    28:38 The Role of Ritual in Worship
    31:28 Psalms and Their Relevance in Modern Worship
    35:29 Lament in Worship Music
    45:16 The Challenge of Lament in Worship
    49:55 Navigating Worship Leadership and Emotional Contexts
    54:44 Imprecatory Psalms and Modern Worship
    01:00:47 The Role of Specificity in Worship Lyrics

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    Listening to the Bible: Why Scripture Was Meant to Be Heard (Dru Johnson) Ep. #188 Feb 20, 2025
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    Most of us read the Bible with our eyes—but what if we’re missing something essential by not listening to it? In this episode, Dr. Dru Johnson challenges the modern tendency to engage Scripture primarily as a written text, arguing that the Bible was designed to be heard. From the Torah readings of Moses to the public proclamation of Paul's letters, Scripture has always been an aural experience—one meant to be absorbed in community rather than private, silent reading.

    Dr. Johnson explains why listening changes how we understand Scripture, uncovering literary structures like repetition, parallelism, and chiasms that are far easier to hear than to see. He also explores the cognitive science behind reading vs. listening, showing why oral engagement helps us retain and interpret biblical texts more deeply.

    Could reclaiming the practice of hearing Scripture together revolutionize the way we experience the Bible? This episode dives into why the church should return to communal listening, what ancient Jewish and Christian traditions teach us, and how modern worship services might be reshaped by putting Scripture at the center—not just as a text to analyze, but as a living word to hear.

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    Chapters
    00:00 Introduction
    00:03 The Natural Habitat of Scripture
    04:15 Hear and Obey in Hebrew - The Shema
    09:05 Active Listening and Vigorous Discussion
    10:17 Listening vs. Reading: A New Perspective

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    The Rapture, the Mark of the Beast, & Christian Eschatology—Fact & Fiction (Matt Halsted) Ep. #187 Feb 13, 2025
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    What if much of what we believe about the end times is shaped more by modern speculation than by biblical theology? In this episode, Dr. Matthew L. Halsted joins The Biblical Mind Podcast to debunk common misconceptions about eschatology, including the rapture, the mark of the beast, and the role of the Middle East in biblical prophecy.

    Halsted and Dru Johnson explore how American Christianity has often read Revelation through a me-centered lens, focusing on personal fears rather than the broader biblical narrative of renewal and justice. They discuss the history of end-times speculation, tracing it from the 16th century to modern prophecy teachers, and why discipline in reading scripture is crucial to avoiding theological confusion.

    Drawing from his book The End of the World as We Know It, Halsted unpacks how early Christians understood eschatology and why the Bible’s emphasis is not on escaping the world but on God’s renewal of creation.

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    Chapters:
    00:00 Introduction
    00:03 Understanding Eschatology in American Christianity
    10:19 What Happens When You Die?
    16:59 The Nature of Post-Mortem Existence
    28:25 Its The End of The World As We Know It
    29:06 Pandemic Fears and Speculations
    31:17 The Mark of the Beast and Public Response
    33:45 Dispensationalism, The Rapture, and Tim Lahaye
    38:23 Rapture Theology and Its Implications
    45:53 Political Dimensions of Eschatology
    50:47 Future Projects and Research Directions

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