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    The Best Ever CRE Show

    Welcome to the Best Ever CRE Show, the world’s longest-running daily COMMERCIAL real estate podcast. Founded by Joe Fairless, a co-founder of Ashcroft Capital who went from buying $35,000 homes to controlling more than $2.7 billion in real estate assets, the Best Ever CRE Show provides commercial real estate expert insights, education, and timely information to our community of active and passive investors who want to build wealth, build a legacy, and do more good in the world.

    So if you want the real stories behind the good, the bad, and the worst ever deals — plus, insights into what really goes on in commercial real estate investing — you’re in the right place. Our hosts interview commercial real estate experts every day to uncover secrets and strategies YOU can use to become a better, more informed investor. This is the Best Ever CRE show.

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    Latest Episodes:
    JF 4090: Surviving Downturns, Picking Operators and Buying the Recovery ft. Travis Watts Nov 15, 2025
    Show notes

    John Casmon interviews Travis Watts, a long-time Best Ever contributor, full-time LP, and author of Passive Investor Tips. They dig into where we are in the multifamily market cycle, why the last three-plus years have felt so painful for LPs, and why Travis believes we’re entering a true recovery phase that could mirror the opportunity of buying in 2010. Travis shares how investing consistently from 2015 to today—even with about 30% of his portfolio “compromised”—still leaves him well ahead of where he’d be if he’d stayed on the sidelines. He and John also break down operator selection, capital calls, fixed vs. floating debt, and how to align your investment strategy with your life stage and risk tolerance.


    Travis Watts
    Current role: Full-time passive investor and author of Passive Investor Tips
    Based in: Orlando, Florida
    Say hi to them at: https://ashcroftcapital.com/our-team/travis-watts/ | LinkedIn


    Alternative Fund IV is closing soon and SMK is giving Best Ever listeners exclusive access to their Founders’ Shares, typically offered only to early investors. Visit smkcap.com/bec to learn more and download the full fund summary.

    Join us at Best Ever Conference 2026! Find more info at:

    https://www.besteverconference.com/

    Join the Best Ever Community

    The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.

    Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow.

    Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠

    Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠

    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    JF 4089: Assisted Living Mistakes, Million-Dollar Lessons and Operational Excellence ft. Todd Dexheimer Nov 14, 2025
    Show notes

    Matt Faircloth interviews Todd Dexheimer, a multifamily and assisted living operator focused on steady, fundamentals-driven investing. Todd breaks down how he thinks about market selection—favoring job and population growth, sane rent-to-income ratios, and controlled new supply over “sexy” boom-bust metros. He then walks through a massive 99-unit value-add on the Mississippi River in the Twin Cities, where he transformed a mismanaged, dated asset into a lifestyle property with standout amenities and stronger rents. Todd also shares the hard lessons from scaling into assisted living—losing seven figures before dialing in operations—and why controlling payroll, culture, and leadership are everything in that business.


    Todd Dexheimer
    Current role: Principal, Endurus Capital and VitaCare Living
    Based in: St. Paul, Minnesota
    Say hi to them at: https://www.enduruscapital.com/ | YouTube | LinkedIn


    Alternative Fund IV is closing soon and SMK is giving Best Ever listeners exclusive access to their Founders’ Shares, typically offered only to early investors. Visit smkcap.com/bec to learn more and download the full fund summary.

    Join us at Best Ever Conference 2026! Find more info at:

    https://www.besteverconference.com/

    Join the Best Ever Community

    The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.

    Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow.

    Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠

    Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠

    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    JF 4088: Institutional Capital, Retail LPs and Choosing the Right Operator ft. Evan Polaski Nov 13, 2025
    Show notes

    Pascal Wagner interviews Evan Polaski, digging into what 18 years across retail and multifamily have taught him about raising capital through multiple market cycles. Evan shares what it was really like trying to raise an institutional fund heading into the 2008 crisis, how the “denominator effect” froze commitments, and why that experience still shapes his view of risk today. He contrasts institutional and retail LP behavior, explains why he’s gravitated back to necessity-based retail, and calls out the dangers of marketers-turned-operators who chase AUM instead of disciplined deals. Evan also walks through how he evaluates sponsors as an LP himself, what “conservative underwriting” should actually mean, and the specific questions passive investors need to ask about performance versus the original pro forma. Evan Polaski
    Current role: Director of Capital Raising, BlackGate Partners
    Based in: Cincinnati, Ohio
    Say hi to them at: https://goblackgate.com | LinkedIn Alternative Fund IV is closing soon and SMK is giving Best Ever listeners exclusive access to their Founders’ Shares, typically offered only to early investors. Visit smkcap.com/bec to learn more and download the full fund summary.

    Join us at Best Ever Conference 2026! Find more info at:

    https://www.besteverconference.com/

    Join the Best Ever Community

    The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.

    Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow.

    Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠

    Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠

    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    JF 4087: Solar-Powered Storage, Smart Financing and Future Growth ft. Steven Wear Nov 12, 2025
    Show notes

    Amanda Cruise and Ash Patel interview Steven Wear, chief marketing officer of SSSE, about the firm’s nationwide self-storage investments and how it’s evolving the model through creative financing and energy innovation. Steven explains how SSSE focuses on secondary and tertiary markets to avoid oversaturation and zoning risks, and why they advocate for local moratoriums once they’ve entered a market. He discusses using substitution of collateral strategies to maximize returns on seller-financed deals, creating a self-sustaining capital engine. The conversation also explores how SSSE integrates solar power, geothermal, and potential data center partnerships to turn storage facilities into power-generating assets, revealing a forward-thinking vision for the future of self-storage.

    Steven Wear
    Current role: Chief Marketing Officer, SSSE
    Based in: Chicago, Illinois
    Say hi to them at: https://ssse.com/ | LinkedIn




    Alternative Fund IV is closing soon and SMK is giving Best Ever listeners exclusive access to their Founders’ Shares, typically offered only to early investors. Visit smkcap.com/bec to learn more and download the full fund summary.

    Join us at Best Ever Conference 2026! Find more info at:

    https://www.besteverconference.com/

    Join the Best Ever Community

    The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.

    Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow.

    Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠

    Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠

    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    JF 4086: How Service Providers Can Stand Out at Conferences ft. Spencer Carpenter Nov 11, 2025
    Show notes

    Richard McGirr interviews Spencer Carpenter, Best Ever CRE’s guest booker and founder of Outlier Audio, to workshop networking strategy for the Best Ever Conference. They dig into how to define an ideal client profile, sell outcome-based podcast campaigns instead of one-off bookings, and qualify prospects quickly so Spencer only offers high-touch strategy sessions to the right fits. Spencer and Richard also explore building simple but effective lead magnets and email drips, using click tracking to prioritize follow-ups, and reframing conference networking as pipeline-building instead of aimless small talk. Along the way, they touch on how LPs and operators alike can show up to conferences with a clear thesis, buy box, and intentional follow-up plan. Spencer Carpenter
    Current role: Founder, Outlier Audio
    Based in: Oxford, Pennsylvania
    Say hi to them at: https://www.outlieraudio.com/ | https://www.linkedin.com/in/spencercarpenter/ | https://www.instagram.com/spencercarpenter/?hl=en


    Alternative Fund IV is closing soon and SMK is giving Best Ever listeners exclusive access to their Founders’ Shares, typically offered only to early investors. Visit smkcap.com/bec to learn more and download the full fund summary.


    Join us at Best Ever Conference 2026! Find more info at:

    https://www.besteverconference.com/


    Join the Best Ever Community

    The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.

    Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow.

    Apply now at ⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠


    Podcast production done by ⁠Outlier Audio⁠

    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    JF 4085: Charts That Matter, Honest Updates and Lower Cost of Capital ft. Ryan Floyd Nov 10, 2025
    Show notes

    Richard McGirr interviews Ryan Floyd, a portfolio manager at Barca Capital, about why thoughtful, authentic investor relations is one of the most overlooked levers for raising and retaining capital. Ryan explains how most IR decks fail by avoiding honest discussion of what isn’t working, over-summarizing numbers in text, and underusing long-term, segment-level data that actually helps investors make decisions. He shares why investors crave more history, more segmentation, and better-designed charts in the spirit of Edward Tufte, rather than generic bullet points and boilerplate language. Richard and Ryan then connect these ideas back to private real estate and funds, showing how storytelling, regular calls, and transparent reporting build deeper investor trust and dramatically increase repeat investments.

    Ryan Floyd
    Current role: Portfolio Manager, Barca Capital
    Based in: Greater Boston, Massachusetts
    Say hi to them at: https://www.barcacapital.com/ | LinkedIn

    Alternative Fund IV is closing soon and SMK is giving Best Ever listeners exclusive access to their Founders’ Shares, typically offered only to early investors. Visit smkcap.com/bec to learn more and download the full fund summary.

    Join us at Best Ever Conference 2026! Find more info at:

    https://www.besteverconference.com/

    Join the Best Ever Community

    The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.

    Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow.

    Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠

    Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠

    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    JF 4084: Data Centers, AI Disruption and The Case For Small Bay Industrial with John Chang Nov 09, 2025
    Show notes

    John Chang breaks down the Urban Land Institute and PwC 2026 Emerging Trends report and what it means for commercial real estate investors. He walks through ULI’s top ten markets to watch, including Dallas, Miami, Houston, Northern New Jersey, Tampa, and Phoenix, highlighting where overdevelopment, insurance costs, and local policy risks could pressure performance versus where solid job and demographic trends still support growth. John also explores why he favors sectors like seniors housing, medical office, workforce apartments, necessity-based neighborhood retail, and small bay industrial over buzzy data centers, especially given AI’s long runway and the heavy power demands of server facilities. He wraps up by explaining why today’s combination of compressed lending spreads, elevated cap rates, and a coming construction slowdown could set investors up for strong risk-adjusted returns over the next three to five years if they position carefully now.

    Alternative Fund IV is closing soon and SMK is giving Best Ever listeners exclusive access to their Founders’ Shares, typically offered only to early investors. Visit smkcap.com/bec to learn more and download the full fund summary.



    Join the Best Ever Community

    The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.

    Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow.

    Apply now at ⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠


    Podcast production done by ⁠Outlier Audio⁠

    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    JF 4083: Multifamily Deals, Oil And Gas Cash Flow and Debt Fund Opportunities ft. Bronson Hill Nov 08, 2025
    Show notes

    John Casmon interviews Bronson Hill. Bronson shares how he walked away from a high-paying medical sales career to pursue time freedom, eventually raising over $50 million for multifamily, oil and gas, debt funds, and development deals. He and John dig into the core reasons investors should define their goals around cash flow, capital preservation, and tax benefits instead of blindly chasing returns, and how to properly vet operators and opportunities across different asset classes. Bronson also explains his “fire yourself” framework, the concept of wealth worthiness, and why mindset and service-driven capital raising are critical to building a diversified, resilient passive income portfolio.


    Bronson Hill
    Current role: Founder and CEO, Bronson Equity
    Based in: Los Angeles, California
    Say hi to them at: https://bronsonequity.com/ | YouTube | LinkedIn


    Alternative Fund IV is closing soon and SMK is giving Best Ever listeners exclusive access to their Founders’ Shares, typically offered only to early investors. Visit smkcap.com/bec to learn more and download the full fund summary.

    Join the Best Ever Community

    The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.

    Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow.

    Apply now at ⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠


    Podcast production done by ⁠Outlier Audio⁠

    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    JF 4082: Syndication Struggles, Partnership Breakdowns and the Road to Recovery ft. Mark Kenney Nov 07, 2025
    Show notes

    Matt Faircloth interviews Mark Kenney. Mark opens up about Think Multifamily’s rapid growth, the lending and partnership challenges that led to major losses, and the hard-won lessons that came out of it. He explains how rising interest rates, canceled tax programs, and lender aggressiveness created a perfect storm for multifamily operators, and why ignoring those red flags proved costly. Mark also discusses his personal low points, the importance of transparent communication with investors, and how he’s now rebuilding his business with a renewed focus on long-term stability, fixed-rate debt, and vertically integrated operations.


    Mark Kenney
    Current role: Co-Founder and CEO, Think Multifamily
    Based in: Dallas, Texas
    Say hi to them at: https://thinkmultifamily.com/ | https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-kenney-566065142/

    Alternative Fund IV is closing soon and SMK is giving Best Ever listeners exclusive access to their Founders’ Shares, typically offered only to early investors. Visit smkcap.com/bec to learn more and download the full fund summary.

    Join the Best Ever Community

    The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.

    Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow.

    Apply now at ⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠


    Podcast production done by ⁠Outlier Audio⁠

    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    JF 4081: Micro Private Equity, Mobile Home Parks and Multifamily Cash Flow ft. Michael Alberse Nov 06, 2025
    Show notes

    Pascal Wagner interviews Michael Alberse. Michael walks through his journey from earning $161 a month in high-yield savings interest to building over $6,000 a month in passive income through a “Frankenstein” mix of cold storage, micro private equity, small business loans, covered-call ETFs, mobile home parks, multifamily, and private money lending. He shares both the 9x home-run exit from a cold storage deal and painful lessons from chasing yield in risky rideshare and cupcake business loans, highlighting why he now prioritizes experienced, obsessive operators and better downside protection. Michael also talks about using masterminds and education to level up his due diligence, hiring a CPA, capping his check size per deal, and keeping his Google job so active income can continue to fuel his passive income portfolio and long-term lifestyle freedom goals. Michael Alberse
    Current role: Google Cloud Account Executive and creator of Micro Investing
    Based in: Atlanta, Georgia.
    Say hi to them at: https://investingmicro.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/micro.investing/ | i Alternative Fund IV is closing soon and SMK is giving Best Ever listeners exclusive access to their Founders’ Shares, typically offered only to early investors. Visit smkcap.com/bec to learn more and download the full fund summary.




    Join the Best Ever Community

    The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.

    Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow.

    Apply now at ⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠


    Podcast production done by ⁠Outlier Audio⁠

    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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