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    The Animal Law Podcast

    Join animal law professor and longtime activist Mariann Sullivan as she explores groundbreaking legal cases shaping the future of animal protection. Each episode features in-depth discussions with leading attorneys, scholars, and advocates about critical developments in animal law—focusing on significant court decisions and their enforcement. Whether you’re a legal professional, animal advocate, or concerned citizen, discover how case law is evolving to recognize and protect animals. From landmark litigation to emerging legal theories, the Animal Law Podcast makes complex legal issues accessible while examining their impact on animals and society.

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    Animal Law Podcast #26: Jonathan Lovvorn and the Case Against Factory Farm Air Pollution Jul 26, 2017
    Show notes

    Welcome to the 26th episode of the Animal Law Podcast! Mariann is joined by Jonathan Lovvorn, Senior Vice President and Chief Counsel for Animal Protection Litigation at The Humane Society of the United States, where he has litigated extensively on behalf of animals and the environment. Jon also holds academic appointments at Harvard Law School, Yale Law School, Georgetown University Law Center, and New York University School of Law, and has published a number of articles concerning animal law, climate change, and wildlife policy.

    On this episode, Jon tells us about Waterkeeper Alliance v EPA, in which the DC Circuit ordered the Environmental Protection Agency to close a loophole that has allowed hazardous substances released into the environment by factory farms to go unreported. This is a rare victory in the fight against the toxic emissions spewing from factory farms, and, among other things, Jon and Mariann discuss whether this favorable decision is a hopeful harbinger of increased attention to the environmental harms of factory farming. As part of this discussion, Jon offers his thoughtful and considered fears regarding climate change and the enormous contributions of animal agriculture to that and other harms.

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    You can listen to our podcast directly on our website (beneath this paragraph!) or you can listen and subscribe on iTunes! Also, if you like what you hear, please rate it on iTunes, and don’t forget to leave us a friendly comment! Of course, we would be thrilled if you would consider making a donation, or becoming a member of our flock (especially if you’re a regular listener). Any amount is hugely appreciated and Our Hen House is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization, so it’s tax-deductible. Thank you for helping us create quality content!

    The Our Hen House theme song is written and sung by the incredible Michael Harren. The graphics for the OHH podcasts are created by the wonderful Laurie Johnston of Two Trick Pony. Don’t forget to also listen to the award-winning, weekly signature OHH podcast — now in its eighth glorious year!

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    Animal Law Podcast #25: Collette Adkins and A Case Against Trump Jun 28, 2017
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    Welcome to the 25th episode of the Animal Law Podcast! Mariann is joined by Collette Adkins, Senior Attorney for the Center for Biological Diversity in the Endangered Species Program, who focuses on combating exploitation and cruel treatment of rare wildlife.

    On this episode, Collette talks about the lawsuit against the Trump administration for repealing protections for wolves, bears, and other wildlife on Alaska’s national wildlife refuges. President Trump signed legislation on April 3 — rushed through Congress under the Congressional Review Act — that repealed an Obama administration rule that prohibited killing wolves and their pups in their dens, gunning down bears at bait stations, and shooting them from airplanes. Under the legislation signed by Trump, all of these practices can now be allowed. This case raises some fascinating and complex issues, including Constitutional considerations of separation of powers.

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    You can listen to our podcast directly on our website (beneath this paragraph!) or you can listen and subscribe on iTunes! Also, if you like what you hear, please rate it on iTunes, and don’t forget to leave us a friendly comment! Of course, we would be thrilled if you would consider making a donation, or becoming a member of our flock (especially if you’re a regular listener). Any amount is hugely appreciated and Our Hen House is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization, so it’s tax-deductible. Thank you for helping us create quality content!

    The Our Hen House theme song is written and sung by the incredible Michael Harren. The graphics for the OHH podcasts are created by the wonderful Laurie Johnston of Two Trick Pony. Don’t forget to also listen to the award-winning, weekly signature OHH podcast — now in its eighth glorious year!

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    Animal Law Podcast #24: Jenni James and the Case of Bow-Hunting Cruelty May 24, 2017
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    Welcome to the 24th episode of the Animal Law Podcast! Mariann is joined by Jenni James, counsel for the People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) Foundation. Through lawsuits, support for new legislation, and other legal efforts, Jenni pushes authorities to create and enforce local, state, and federal laws designed to help animals who are used and abused.

    On this episode we are going to be talking about Cohhn v Maryland-National Capital Park and Planning Commission, which is currently pending in the Court of Special Appeals of Maryland. This case brings together a number of interesting and important themes, including the potential uses of taxpayer standing (hint: Maryland is pretty special here!), the hideous cruelty of bow-hunting, and the tendency for exceptions to cruelty laws to grow much bigger than they were meant to be because of the completely erroneous assumption that, if something is exempted from a cruelty law, that means it’s not cruel.

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    You can listen to our podcast directly on our website (beneath this paragraph!) or you can listen and subscribe on iTunes! Also, if you like what you hear, please rate it on iTunes, and don’t forget to leave us a friendly comment! Of course, we would be thrilled if you would consider making a donation, or becoming a member of our flock (especially if you’re a regular listener). Any amount is hugely appreciated and Our Hen House is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization, so it’s tax-deductible. Thank you for helping us create quality content!

    The Our Hen House theme song is written and sung by the incredible Michael Harren. The graphics for the OHH podcasts are created by the wonderful Laurie Johnston of Two Trick Pony. Special thanks to OHH’s Anne Green and Michael Harren. Don’t forget to also listen to the award-winning, weekly signature OHH podcast — now in its eighth glorious year!

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    Animal Law Podcast #23: Gabriel Walters and the Case of the Secret Primates Apr 26, 2017
    Show notes

    Welcome to the 23rd episode of the Animal Law Podcast! Mariann is joined by Gabriel Walters, Counsel and Manager of Legislative Affairs for the People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) Foundation, where he contributes to PETA’s efforts to pass legislation and win court cases that help animals. He’ll be talking about PETA v Department of Agricultural Resources, which is currently pending in the Supreme Court of Massachusetts. The case involves PETA’s attempts to gain some information about primates coming into Massachusetts and the stone wall that they ran into. Massachusetts Public Records Law, which is a mini-Freedom of Information Law – was interpreted in some very peculiar, and ominous, ways in order to keep this information out of PETA’s hands. This case, now on appeal, is an important one for anyone interested in keeping the information flowing regarding what’s happening to animals.

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    You can listen to our podcast directly on our website (beneath this paragraph!) or you can listen and subscribe on iTunes! Also, if you like what you hear, please rate it on iTunes, and don’t forget to leave us a friendly comment! Of course, we would be thrilled if you would consider making a donation, or becoming a member of our flock (especially if you’re a regular listener). Any amount is hugely appreciated and Our Hen House is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization, so it’s tax-deductible. Thank you for helping us create quality content!

    The Our Hen House theme song is written and sung by the incredible Michael Harren. The graphics for the OHH podcasts are created by the wonderful Laurie Johnston of Two Trick Pony. Special thanks to OHH’s Anne Green and Michael Harren. Don’t forget to also listen to the award-winning, weekly signature OHH podcast — now in its eighth glorious year!

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    Animal Law Podcast #22: Adam Milasincic, Matthew Liebman and the Case Against Landry’s Mar 29, 2017
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    This is no place for a tiger

    Welcome to the 22nd episode of the Animal Law Podcast! Today, Mariann is joined by Matthew Liebman, Director of Litigation at the Animal Legal Defense Fund, and Adam Milasincic, trial lawyer with the Houston firm Ahmad, Zavitsanos, Anaipakos, Alavi & Mensing P.C. Matthew and Adam update us on the case against Landry’s, or to be precise, on Landry’s case against animal activists. For over a decade, Landry’s Downtown Aquarium in Houston, Texas has deprived four white tigers of everything that even remotely resembles what their life would be in the wild. These tigers – Nero, Marina, Coral, and Reef – have no opportunities to run, jump or engage in other natural behaviors. Although the Animal Legal Defense Fund offered last year to re-home the tigers in lieu of litigation, that offer was rejected. Instead, Landry’s decided to sue ALDF and others for libel. Undeterred, the defendants brought a motion to dismiss that not only succeeded, but did so in spectacular fashion.

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    You can listen to our podcast directly on our website (beneath this paragraph!) or you can listen and subscribe on iTunes! Also, if you like what you hear, please rate it on iTunes, and don’t forget to leave us a friendly comment! Of course, we would be thrilled if you would consider making a donation, or becoming a member of our flock (especially if you’re a regular listener). Any amount is hugely appreciated and Our Hen House is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization, so it’s tax-deductible. Thank you for helping us create quality content!

    The Our Hen House theme song is written and sung by the incredible Michael Harren. The graphics for the OHH podcasts are created by the wonderful Laurie Johnston of Two Trick Pony. Special thanks to OHH’s Anne Green and Michael Harren. Don’t forget to also listen to the award-winning, weekly signature OHH podcast — now in its eighth glorious year!

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    Animal Law Podcast #21: Delcianna J. Winders and the Case Against the USDA Mar 01, 2017
    Show notes

    Welcome to the 21st episode of the Animal Law Podcast! Today, Mariann is joined by Delcianna J. Winders, currently an Academic Fellow of the Harvard Animal Law & Policy Program and a co-plaintiff in a lawsuit against the USDA. This Freedom of Information Law suit seeks to compel the USDA to replace the records, recently purged from their website, that detail violations of the Animal Welfare Act. This is a huge crisis for anyone working to help animals in the industries that are regulated by the Act, and they are fighting back! In fact, this situation is moving so quickly that Mariann and Delci recorded an update about an additional lawsuit filed in this ongoing saga. Listen and learn the latest on the fight to get the records back!

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    You can listen to our podcast directly on our website (beneath this paragraph!) or you can listen and subscribe on iTunes! Also, if you like what you hear, please rate it on iTunes, and don’t forget to leave us a friendly comment! Of course, we would be thrilled if you would consider making a donation, or becoming a member of our flock (especially if you’re a regular listener). Any amount is hugely appreciated and Our Hen House is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization, so it’s tax-deductible. Thank you for helping us create quality content!

    The Our Hen House theme song is written and sung by the incredible Michael Harren. The graphics for the OHH podcasts are created by the wonderful Laurie Johnston of Two Trick Pony. Special thanks to OHH’s Anne Green and Michael Harren. Don’t forget to also listen to the award-winning, weekly signature OHH podcast — now in its eighth glorious year!

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    Animal Law Podcast #20: James Whitlock and Douglas Ruley and the Cherokee Bear Zoo Case Jan 25, 2017
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    James Whitlock

    Welcome to the 20th episode of the Animal Law Podcast! Today, Mariann is joined by Jamie Whitlock and Doug Ruley, who focus on environmental law at Davis & Whitlock, P.C., in Asheville, North Carolina. Jamie has litigated numerous environmental and land use cases in federal district courts nationwide, the state courts of North Carolina, Tennessee, Alabama, and Arkansas, and in local and administrative venues throughout the southeast. Doug has litigated cases involving the forests and biodiversity of the Appalachians, air and water pollution, and transportation and land use, among many others.

    Douglas Ruley

    On today’s show, Jamie and Doug discuss the deplorable conditions at the Cherokee Bear Zoo for grizzly bears, who live out their lives in concrete pits begging for food from benighted tourists. Can this be legal? Jamie and Doug, who have brought a lawsuit seeking to free the bears, consider how the intersections between the Endangered Species Act and the Animal Welfare Act open up the possibility of freeing them from their terrible lives. What does it mean to “harm,” “take” and “harass” captive wildlife? What is a “generally accepted” husbandry practice? We’ll consider these and other questions, and what the answers mean for these desperate animals.

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    You can listen to our podcast directly on our website (beneath this paragraph!) or you can listen and subscribe on iTunes! Also, if you like what you hear, please rate it on iTunes, and don’t forget to leave us a friendly comment! Of course, we would be thrilled if you would consider making a donation, or becoming a member of our flock (especially if you’re a regular listener). Any amount is hugely appreciated and Our Hen House is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization, so it’s tax-deductible. Thank you for helping us create quality content!

    The Our Hen House theme song is written and sung by the incredible Michael Harren. The graphics for the OHH podcasts are created by the wonderful Laurie Johnston of Two Trick Pony. Special thanks to OHH’s Anne Green and Michael Harren. Don’t forget to also listen to the award-winning, weekly signature OHH podcast — now in its eighth glorious year!

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    Animal Law Podcast #19: Bryan Pease and the Kapporot Case Dec 28, 2016
    Show notes

    Welcome to the 19th episode of the Animal Law Podcast! Today, Mariann is joined by attorney Bryan Pease. Bryan’s law practice focuses on government transparency and freedom of speech and assembly, as well as the protection of animals, the environment, and consumers. He’s been involved in numerous cases on behalf of activists with the Animal Protection and Rescue League, which he co-founded in 2003.

    On today’s show, Bryan and Mariann discuss the lawsuit he recently brought in federal court in California arguing that the treatment of chickens for the religious ritual of Kapporot is in violation of California’s anti-cruelty law. Not only does this case involve questions about how a private citizen can get into court to argue that California’s criminal cruelty law has been violated, but it brings up hugely important issues regarding conflicts between First Amendment freedoms and the enforcement of laws protecting animals. You are not going to want to miss this one!

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    You can listen to our podcast directly on our website (beneath this paragraph!) or you can listen and subscribe on iTunes! Also, if you like what you hear, please rate it on iTunes, and don’t forget to leave us a friendly comment! Of course, we would be thrilled if you would consider making a donation, or becoming a member of our flock (especially if you’re a regular listener). Any amount is hugely appreciated and Our Hen House is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization, so it’s tax-deductible. Thank you for helping us create quality content!

    The Our Hen House theme song is written and sung by the incredible Michael Harren. The graphics for the OHH podcasts are created by the wonderful Laurie Johnston of Two Trick Pony. Special thanks to OHH’s Anne Green and Michael Harren. Don’t forget to also listen to the award-winning, weekly signature OHH podcast — now in its seventh glorious year!

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    Animal Law Podcast #18: Ryan Shapiro, Jeffrey Light, and FOIA Nov 30, 2016
    Show notes

    Welcome to the 18th episode of the Animal Law Podcast! Today, we are joined by Ryan Shapiro and Jeffrey Light. Ryan is a Ph.D. candidate at MIT, as well as a Research Affiliate at Harvard University, and a leading expert on the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA). Jeffrey, who is Ryan’s lawyer, is a D.C.-based FOIA specialist attorney, who also specializes in activist defense and civil rights.

    On today’s show, Ryan and Jeffrey discuss how they used FOIA to expose the improprieties of a major agricultural lobby and a U.S. government agency against Hampton Creek Foods. They also talk about their other animal and activist work, including a new project called Operation 45. This episode is sure to give you hope!

    awaat50-posterSigned into law in 1966 by President Johnson, the Animal Welfare Act turns 50 this year. The Animal Law and Policy program at Harvard Law School marks this anniversary with the conference The Animal Welfare Act at Fifty, bringing together experts from the academic, legal, governmental, and non-profit arenas to assess the past and consider recommendations for the future of the AWA. Friday and Saturday, December 2 & 3 at Harvard Law School. Space is limited, so register now.

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    You can listen to our podcast directly on our website (beneath this paragraph!) or you can listen and subscribe on iTunes! Also, if you like what you hear, please rate it on iTunes, and don’t forget to leave us a friendly comment! Of course, we would be thrilled if you would consider making a donation, or becoming a member of our flock (especially if you’re a regular listener). Any amount is hugely appreciated and Our Hen House is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization, so it’s tax-deductible. Thank you for helping us create quality content!

    The Our Hen House theme song is written and sung by the incredible Michael Harren. The graphics for the OHH podcasts are created by the wonderful Laurie Johnston of Two Trick Pony. Audio editing is provided by Eric Milano of Love Loft Studio. Special thanks to OHH’s Anne Green and Michael Harren. Don’t forget to also listen to the award-winning, weekly signature OHH podcast — now in its seventh glorious year!

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    Animal Law Podcast #17: Matthew Liebman on the Case Against the “Walmart of Antibodies” Oct 26, 2016
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    matthew-liebman-headshot-ieWelcome to the 17th episode of the Animal Law Podcast! Today, I am joined by Matthew Liebman, Chief Legal Counsel in the litigation program at the Animal Legal Defense Fund. Matthew has litigated cases including ALDF v. Otter, the first lawsuit to successfully invalidate an Ag-Gag law; and Bennett v. McDaniel, which rescued a captive bear from a small concrete cage where she had languished for 16 years, among many others.

    On today’s show, Matthew takes us through the case against Santa Cruz Biotechnology, a producer and purveyor of antibodies that uses live animals; in essence, it’s a blood farm. Using California’s Unfair Competition Law, ALDF seeks to demonstrate that California’s state animal cruelty laws are being violated. Although ALDF’s case was initially dismissed, after a shockingly effective enforcement action by the United States Department of Agriculture under the Animal Welfare Act, ALDF’s case has been refiled.

    awaat50-posterSigned into law in 1966 by President Johnson, the Animal Welfare Act turns 50 this year. The Animal Law and Policy program at Harvard Law School marks this anniversary with the conference The Animal Welfare Act at Fifty, bringing together experts from the academic, legal, governmental, and non-profit arenas to assess the past and consider recommendations for the future of the AWA. Friday and Saturday, December 2 & 3 at Harvard Law School. Space is limited, so register now.

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    You can listen to our podcast directly on our website (beneath this paragraph!) or you can listen and subscribe on iTunes! Also, if you like what you hear, please rate it on iTunes, and don’t forget to leave us a friendly comment! Of course, we would be thrilled if you would consider making a donation, or becoming a member of our flock (especially if you’re a regular listener). Any amount is hugely appreciated and Our Hen House is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization, so it’s tax-deductible. Thank you for helping us create quality content!

    The Our Hen House theme song is written and sung by the incredible Michael Harren. The graphics for the OHH podcasts are created by the wonderful Laurie Johnston of Two Trick Pony. Audio editing is provided by Eric Milano of Love Loft Studio. Special thanks to OHH’s Jasmin Singer, Anne Green, and Michael Harren. Don’t forget to also listen to the award-winning, weekly signature OHH podcast — now in its seventh glorious year!

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