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    That UFO Podcast

    Bringing you up to date news, interviews and guests from around the world of UFOs, UAP & connected phenomena
    Hosted by Andy McGrillen

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    Latest Episodes:
    Trump on UFOs, Jake Barber’s Retrieval Claims & the Skywatcher Fallout Nov 10, 2026
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    Pavel joins me to unpack Donald Trump’s UFO comments on 60 Minutes. I’ve gone back through his interviews since 2019 to see how his F-22 story has changed and what to make of those four words about a secret UFO programme: “I haven’t heard that.”

    We also listen to Jake Barber’s Stockholm remarks about the egg-shaped object he says he lifted by helicopter. Which parts did he witness himself, what was he told afterwards, and how much do Skywatcher’s unfulfilled promises affect how we hear him now?


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    Elon Musk Called Out Over Aliens & Jake Barber’s New UFO Role Nov 06, 2026
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    Elon Musk says we see no sign of aliens, but Anna Paulina Luna and Dylan Borland are pushing back. Andy breaks down their responses, the confirmation that Jake Barber has joined Congressman Eric Burlison’s staff, and the proposed Reality Transparency Act.

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    Australia's Hidden UFO History: Woomera, Westall & the Psychic Truth | Rhys Dalton-Morgan Nov 06, 2026
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    Australian UFO researcher Rhys Dalton-Morgan joins Andy to explore Australia's remarkable UFO history, government secrecy and the stranger side of the phenomenon.

    Rhys shares his investigation into his grandfather, a decorated RAF fighter ace who reportedly witnessed an extraordinary UFO at the classified Woomera rocket testing range, alongside new revelations about his family's experiences.

    They discuss the famous Westall encounter, the 1971 Harry Turner intelligence document, historical antigravity research and Australia's role in UFO disclosure.

    The conversation also tackles David Grusch's controversial claims, recovered craft and bodies, and the proposed Reality Transparency Act.

    Finally, Rhys explores his fascinating work *UFOs: The Psychic Truth*, asking whether UFO encounters could be influencing human consciousness and challenging our understanding of reality.

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    US Midterm SHOCK: What Happens to UFO Disclosure NOW? Nov 04, 2026
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    The US midterm elections have dramatically shifted the balance of power in Washington. But what does this mean for the future of UFO disclosure?

    In this special episode, Andy breaks down who's in and who's out of the UAP Caucus, what Chuck Schumer's increased influence could mean for the UAP Disclosure Act, and whether congressional hearings and the PURSUE file releases could be in jeopardy.

    Plus, could investigations into the Trump administration derail disclosure efforts, or open the door to new opportunities?

    Featuring your thoughts and reactions to the election fallout.

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    The Tedesco Brothers: UFO Encounters, the Hitchhiker Effect & the FBI Oct 28, 2026
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    I’m joined once again by John and Gerry Tedesco, the brothers behind the Nightcrawler mobile research laboratory, to discuss their latest UFO observations and the unusual experiences they say have followed researchers home.

    From luminous objects over the Atlantic to reports of bedroom orbs and a moving shadow caught on camera, we explore what they’ve observed and how they’re investigating it. They also discuss their ongoing FBI relationship, a visit from AARO, and plans to take their research offshore.

    Plus, their frank assessment of Skywatcher, frustrations with the government’s UFO releases, and why they believe independent scrutiny is essential to moving the subject forward.

    Recorded in early October 2026.

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    Jake Barber: Burlison’s Next Move in UFO Disclosure? Oct 26, 2026
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    Is Jake Barber about to join Congressman Eric Burlison’s team? Andy and Pavel discuss the clues behind the unconfirmed hire, David Grusch’s departure and what a new appointment could mean for the UFO investigation.

    They also unpack Burlison’s latest interview, questions surrounding Skywatcher, frustrations with the government’s UFO releases and Diana Pasulka’s take on Jay Stratton’s book. Could the search for answers be heading in a new direction?

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    PURSUE Release 7: AARO’s Black Triangle Case & the BAASS Files Oct 23, 2026
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    A black triangle encounter AARO says warrants further investigation, hundreds of pages of Bigelow Aerospace documents, and still no videos. I give my first reaction to PURSUE Release 7, covering the federal agents’ witness report, BAASS plans involving alleged recovered materials, proposed contact experiments and Project Capella. What do these documents actually establish, and is this release delivering what people expected?

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    Chris Ramsay Returns: UFO Crashes, Disclosure Fatigue & Secret Technology Oct 22, 2026
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    Chris Ramsay of Area 52 returns to discuss what convinces him about UFO crash retrievals, what makes him suspicious, and why he’s tired of being told we can’t handle the truth.

    We get into David Grusch’s Joe Rogan interview, Jay Stratton’s claims, and Chris’s visit to the alleged Aztec crash site with Jesse Michels. Chris explains why Aztec stands out to him, how his background as a magician shapes his view of whistleblowers, and why his conviction in Project Serpo is “next to zero”.

    We also discuss Chris Bledsoe’s institute, underwater UFO claims and whether advanced human technology could look alien, before Chris shares an extraordinary anonymous caller’s account of technology allegedly capable of anticipating enemy movements.

    We begin by remembering Mario Woods and the friendship he shared with Chris.

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    The White House vs UFO Gatekeepers: Who Controls the Evidence? Oct 20, 2026
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    Is the White House trying to bypass the people keeping UFO secrets, and why are scientists still struggling to access the evidence?

    Andy and Pavel discuss Ross Coulthart’s reporting on alleged UAP operations at White Sands, questions surrounding Jake Barber and Skywatcher, and Garry Nolan’s frustration that Dr. Phil sees UFO footage before the scientific advisory group does.

    We also examine Jay Stratton’s latest comments about who holds the proof, what the government’s UAP releases are actually delivering, and whether disclosure can progress without waiting for Washington.

    Plus, a discussion about secrecy, belief and the influence of alleged secret societies within the UFO community.

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    UFO Cover-Up Claims & Pentagon Fallout, with Ben Schreckinger Oct 16, 2026
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    I’m joined by journalist Ben Schreckinger to discuss his reporting on the escalating dispute between Jay Stratton and Sean Kirkpatrick.

    After Stratton alleged that Kirkpatrick was compromised by a secret UFO legacy programme, Ben contacted the former AARO director for a response. Kirkpatrick denied the allegation and fired back with accusations of national security violations. Ben explains the exchange, what remains unanswered and where his investigation goes next.

    We also discuss covering Donald Trump’s rise for Politico, Trump’s approach to UFO disclosure, the challenges of investigating crash retrieval claims, and John Herrington’s changing account of his connection to Brent Friedman.

    Plus, why Ben is taking a closer look at telepathy, and whether fresh media interest can deliver answers to an audience tired of promises.

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