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    That UFO Podcast

    Bringing you up to date news, interviews and guests from around the world of UFOs, UAP & connected phenomena
    Hosted by Andy McGrillen

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    Latest Episodes:
    From Thought to Reality: Are UAPs Manifesting? w/James Hodgkins Aug 04, 2025
    Show notes ** Pre-order my new book: https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs **
    In this episode, I sit down with James Hodgkins, one of Skywatchers' psionic assets. We dive deep into the topics of consciousness, psionic phenomena, UFOs, and much more. James shares his personal experiences and thoughts on these subjects as well as his involvement with Sky Watcher.
    Whistleblowers and Public Disclosure
    Managing UFO Information Like a PR Campaign
    David Grusch's Impact and Media Coverage
    Challenges and Dangers for Whistleblowers
    Citizen Disclosure and Skywatcher's Role
    Dr. Beatriz Villaroel and Transient Objects
    Listener Questions: Craft, Abilities, and Ethics
    Personal Experiences and Family Impact
    Ethical Conflicts and Skywatcher's Mission
    https://x.com/jdhodgkins
    ๐Ÿ”ฅ Support the show & get bonus content:
    ๐Ÿ›ธ YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join
    ๐Ÿ›ธ Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast
    ๐Ÿ›ธ Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397
    ๐Ÿ›ธ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ
    ๐Ÿ›ธ Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast
    ๐Ÿ“ฒ Connect with the show:
    Twitter: @UFOUAPAM
    Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast
    YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast
    Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com
    All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam
    Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com

    ๐Ÿ‘ Donโ€™t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review โ€” it really helps!
    Thanks for listening,
    Andy
    ๐ŸŽต Music Credits:
    "Girl with the Saucer Eyes" โ€“ Adam Goldsack โ†’ http://bitly.ws/kvIK

    "Goblin Problems" โ€“ Sean Cahill โ†’ http://bitly.ws/kvIL


    Exploring Psionic Phenomena & UFOs: An In-Depth Conversation with James Hodgkins Aug 01, 2025
    Show notes ** Pre-order my new book: https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs **
    In this episode, I sit down with James Hodgkins, one of Skywatchers' psionic assets. We dive deep into the topics of consciousness, psionic phenomena, UFOs, and much more. James shares his personal experiences and thoughts on these subjects as well as his involvement with Sky Watcher.
    ๐Ÿ‘‡ Timestamps:
    00:00 Welcome and Guest Introduction
    01:00:00 Welcome and Guest Introduction
    01:10 Early Psi Experiences & Family UFO Encounters
    03:10 Major Contact at 19 & Joining Skywatcher
    06:40 Consciousness, Folklore & the Phenomena
    15:09 Skywatcher's Journey, Challenges & Transparency
    36:47 Psionic Abilities, Inner Voices & Daily Life
    48:00 The Nature of UAPs: Craft, Orbs & Thought Forms
    01:05:33 Intent, Psychic Phenomena & Manifestation
    End of Part 1
    ๐Ÿ”ฅ Support the show & get bonus content:
    ๐Ÿ›ธ YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join
    ๐Ÿ›ธ Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast
    ๐Ÿ›ธ Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397
    ๐Ÿ›ธ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ
    ๐Ÿ›ธ Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast
    ๐Ÿ“ฒ Connect with the show:
    Twitter: @UFOUAPAM
    Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast
    YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast
    Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com
    All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam
    Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com
    ๐Ÿ‘ Donโ€™t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review โ€” it really helps!
    Thanks for listening,
    Andy
    ๐ŸŽต Music Credits:
    "Girl with the Saucer Eyes" โ€“ Adam Goldsack โ†’ http://bitly.ws/kvIK
    "Goblin Problems" โ€“ Sean Cahill โ†’ http://bitly.ws/kvIL

    Ivan Hannel on Elizondo, UFO Disclosure โ€“ and a New Insider coming forward Jul 31, 2025
    Show notes ๐ŸŽ™๏ธ Pre-order Andyโ€™s new book Atlas of UFOs now: https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs

    In this fascinating deep dive, Iโ€™m joined by Ivan Hannel โ€” best known as the lawyer representing Luis โ€œLueโ€ Elizondo, former head of AATIP โ€” for a nearly two-hour conversation that explores the legal, political, and human sides of UFO disclosure.
    We cover everything from the New York Times article that changed the game, to Ivanโ€™s professional relationship with Elizondo, legal insights into congressional briefings, government secrecy, andโ€ฆ a tease of a potential new whistleblower coming forward.
    Ivan's Journey: From Law to UFOs
    Meeting Lue Elizondo
    The Controversial Congressional Briefing
    Mistakes in public
    Suspicion Around UAP Disclosure Act
    Concerns Over Controlled Disclosure
    Legal Perspectives on UFO Evidence
    Government Accountability and Ufology
    ๐Ÿ”ฅ Support the show & get bonus content:
    ๐Ÿ›ธ YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join
    ๐Ÿ›ธ Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast
    ๐Ÿ›ธ Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397
    ๐Ÿ›ธ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ
    ๐Ÿ›ธ Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast

    ๐Ÿ“ฒ Connect with the show:
    Twitter: @UFOUAPAM
    Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast
    YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast
    Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com
    All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam
    Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com

    ๐Ÿ‘ Donโ€™t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review โ€” it really helps!

    Thanks for listening,
    Andy
    ๐ŸŽต Music Credits:
    "Girl with the Saucer Eyes" โ€“ Adam Goldsack โ†’ http://bitly.ws/kvIK
    "Goblin Problems" โ€“ Sean Cahill โ†’ http://bitly.ws/kvIL


    UFO Black Sites Named, New Evidence Coming Soon & More Jul 25, 2025
    Show notes ** Pre-order Atlas of UFOs: https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs **
    Another busy week in UFO world, another UFO news round up with a few really interesting moments from Weaponized with Corbell & Knapp, Diana Pasulka smashes an interview out the park &. new evidence coming soon?
    Corbell drops locations of UFO interest!
    Dustin Slaughter bringing new evidence forward
    Diana Pasulka interview with NYT
    AARO Tim Phillips brought 'Skeptics' into be briefed
    New Under Sec Air Force UFO experiences
    Upcoming guests
    Tim Phillips - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsKAX6IFORU
    Weaponized - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOzth5nQorw
    Pasulka - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7n4nctI60c
    Get in touch with the show:
    ๐Ÿ“ฌ https://www.thatufopodcast.com/contact
    ๐Ÿฆ X/Twitter: @UFOUAPAM
    ๐Ÿ“บ YouTube: https://YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast
    ๐Ÿ“˜ Facebook, ๐Ÿ“ธ Instagram: That UFO Podcast
    ๐Ÿ“ง Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com
    ๐ŸŽ™๏ธ All podcast links:
    https://linktr.ee/ufouapam
    https://www.thatufopodcast.com/
    Don't forget to subscribe, like, and leave a review of the show.
    Enjoy, folks!
    โ€“ Andy

    Breakdown: 'Sphere' & Loathing, Conciousness & Breakaway Civilisations Jul 22, 2025
    Show notes ** Pre-order Atlas of UFOs: https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs **
    Carrying on the Breakdown, Dan stayed on with me to answer your questions on some of the news happening, including:
    New 'Buga'/'Yumbo' Sphere Controversy
    Shades of Disclosure
    Community Dynamics and Disinformation
    Tic-Tac UFOs and Breakaway Civilizations
    Human Technology vs. Alien Craft
    Consciousness and Reality
    Disclosure and Government Secrecy
    Final Thoughts
    Check out Dan's work: https://linktr.ee/thezignal
    Get in touch with the show:
    ๐Ÿ“ฌ https://www.thatufopodcast.com/contact
    ๐Ÿฆ X/Twitter: @UFOUAPAM
    ๐Ÿ“บ YouTube: https://YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast
    ๐Ÿ“˜ Facebook, ๐Ÿ“ธ Instagram: That UFO Podcast
    ๐Ÿ“ง Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com
    ๐ŸŽ™๏ธ All podcast links:
    https://linktr.ee/ufouapam
    https://www.thatufopodcast.com/

    Don't forget to subscribe, like, and leave a review of the show.
    Enjoy, folks!
    โ€“ Andy

    Breakdown: UFO Hearings Delayed โ€“ Science, Signals & Secrets (Pt. 1) Jul 19, 2025
    Show notes There is so much going on in the UFO/UAP world right now. I'm joined by Dan to break down a whole load of news, including:
    Delay to hearings
    Potential witnesses for upcoming hearings
    Garry Nolan's insights on UFOs and scientific skepticism
    Electromagnetic signals and UAPs
    Historical context and literature
    DMT research and other dimensions
    Tic-Tac UFOs and breakaway civilizations
    Disclosure and government secrecy
    Links mentioned on the show:
    ๐Ÿ“ UAP Petition: https://uapda.org/petition
    ๐ŸŽฅ James Fox docs: YouTube link
    ๐ŸŽ™๏ธ Nolan on Peterson: YouTube link
    ๐Ÿ›ธ MUFON Symposium: https://mufonsymposium.com/
    Get in touch with the show:
    ๐Ÿ“ฌ https://www.thatufopodcast.com/contact
    ๐Ÿฆ X/Twitter: @UFOUAPAM
    ๐Ÿ“บ YouTube: https://YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast
    ๐Ÿ“˜ Facebook, ๐Ÿ“ธ Instagram: That UFO Podcast
    ๐Ÿ“ง Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com
    ๐ŸŽ™๏ธ All podcast links:
    https://linktr.ee/ufouapam
    https://www.thatufopodcast.com/
    Don't forget to subscribe, like, and leave a review of the show.
    Enjoy, folks!
    โ€“ Andy

    UFO Hearings Delayed, Coulthart Follow-Up & Sightings Increase Jul 16, 2025
    Show notes Here is your latest news round-up from the last few days in the world of UFOs:
    Ross Coulthart clarifies comments
    Hearings delayed until September
    Pilots of 'crash retrieval vehicles' appearing?
    NewsNation recap
    Multiple reports drop on UFO sightings
    NewsNation recap:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7z4a_GK-dkE
    Canadian report:
    https://science.gc.ca/site/science/en/office-chief-science-advisor/sky-canada-project/management-public-reporting-unidentified-aerial-phenomena-canada#appendix-b
    NUFORC report:
    https://www.newsnationnow.com/space/ufo/2000-ufo-sightings-first-half-2025/
    Get in touch with the show:
    https://www.thatufopodcast.com/contact
    X/Twitter: @UFOUAPAM
    Facebook, YouTube & Instagram: That UFO Podcast
    YouTube: โ โ YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast
    Email: โ โ UFOUAPAM@gmail.com
    All podcast & associated links:
    โ โ https://linktr.ee/ufouapam
    https://www.thatufopodcast.com/
    Don't forget to subscribe, like, and leave a review of the show.
    Enjoy, folks!
    โ€“ Andy

    Breakdown: New data, deception & missed opportunities Jul 14, 2025
    Show notes We continue to look at the news stories that have dominated the headlines in recent weeks but also the first half of 2025, including:
    Age of Disclosure: Missed Opportunities?
    Skywatcher: Promises and Skepticism
    Whistleblowers and Public Perception
    AARO Leadership and Future
    Observatory's Sky Scans
    UFO Data and Public Perception
    UK UAP Hearings and Legislation
    Closing Thoughts
    Check out Dan's work: https://linktr.ee/thezignal

    Get in touch with the show:
    https://www.thatufopodcast.com/contact
    X/Twitter: @UFOUAPAM
    Facebook, YouTube & Instagram: "That UFO Podcast"
    YouTube: โ โ YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcastโ โ 
    Email: โ โ UFOUAPAM@gmail.com
    All podcast links & associated links:
    โ โ Linktr.ee/ufouapamโ 
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    Don't forget to subscribe, like and leave a review of the show
    Enjoy folks,
    Andy

    Bonus: Tic-Tac witness Roundtable (Kevin Day, Gary Voorhis, PJ Hughes) Jul 12, 2025
    Show notes A bonus episode for you this weekend to look back at my first roundtable conversation from August 2020, but there's a big reason this one is worth checking out. These are three witnesses to the Tic Tac event of November 2004, all from differing expertise and vantage points. Very much worth diving into given the huge talking points Ross Coulthart, Eric Burlison & others have brought up around the origins of the Tic Tac craft.
    Recounting the 2004 Nimitz Encounter
    Personal Experiences and Reactions
    New Revelations and Classified Information
    Speculations on the Origin of UAPs
    Impact on Military and Public Perception
    Certainty of Radar and Visual Sightings
    Radar Capabilities and Debunking Theories
    Underwater Craft
    Data Collection and Chain of Custody
    Future of UAP Disclosure
    Get in touch with the show:
    https://www.thatufopodcast.com/contact
    X/Twitter: @UFOUAPAM
    Facebook, YouTube & Instagram: "That UFO Podcast"
    YouTube: โ โ YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcastโ โ 
    Email: โ โ UFOUAPAM@gmail.com
    All podcast links & associated links:
    โ โ Linktr.ee/ufouapamโ 
    https://www.thatufopodcast.com/
    Don't forget to subscribe, like and leave a review of the show
    Enjoy folks,
    Andy

    Breakdown: Tic-Tac, Alien or Human tech? Jul 11, 2025
    Show notes * Part 1 of 2 *
    ** Pre-order Atlas of UFOs: https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs **
    I am joined by Dan to discuss a range of breaking UFO news, including Ross Coulthart's explosive claim about Tic-Tac technology being developed by Lockheed Martin, updates on the Sky Watcher project, and the latest whistleblowers. We also delve into the implications of recent UFO sightings and tech, a new observatory's potential astronomical revelations, and the debated impact of government legislation on UAP disclosure.
    The Tic-Tac Incident
    Ross Coulthart's Bold Claims
    Debating the Tic-Tac Technology
    The Nimitz Encounter Breakdown
    Lockheed Martin and Advanced Tech
    Community Reactions and Speculations
    The Drone Debate
    MUFON material analysis coming
    Check out Dan's work: https://linktr.ee/thezignal
    Get in touch with the show:
    https://www.thatufopodcast.com/contact
    Twitter: @UFOUAPAM
    Facebook, YouTube & Instagram: "That UFO Podcast"
    YouTube: โ โ YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcastโ โ 
    Email: โ โ UFOUAPAM@gmail.com
    All podcast links & associated links:
    โ โ Linktr.ee/ufouapamโ 
    https://www.thatufopodcast.com/
    Don't forget to subscribe, like and leave a review of the show
    Enjoy folks,
    Andy

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