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The Future of Marriage Education, Skill Building, & Ai | Alan Hawkins | 199 Oct 19, 2026

Show notes

In this episode of Stronger Marriage Connection, Dr. Alan Hawkins joins Dave Schramm and Liz Hale to explore the future of relationship and marriage education, including how couples can build stronger relationships without setting unrealistic expectations. Alan introduces the idea of a “good enough marriage” and explains why a healthy, happy relationship doesn't have to be perfect to be meaningful and fulfilling. The conversation also explores how relationship education can better meet couples' needs through practical, accessible skill-building opportunities and how artificial intelligence (AI) may change the way people seek relationship advice. From navigating different seasons of marriage to finding a balance between growth and contentment, this episode reminds couples that good really can be good enough—and that great moments often come along the way.

Chapters

00:00 – The Future of Marriage Education
01:34 – Welcome Back, Dr. Alan Hawkins
03:15 – What Is Relationship Education?
04:22 – Education Versus Marriage Counseling
05:19 – Different Types of Relationship Education
07:31 – Does Marriage Education Really Work?
09:45 – Concerns About Relationship Education
10:50 – Are Marriage Expectations Too High?
13:14 – What Is a Good Enough Marriage?
14:04 – Intimacy, Commitment, and Security
16:18 – Finding Fun and Comfort in Marriage
18:04 – Accepting Imperfections and Life's Seasons
20:28 – Why Good Really Is Good
22:17 – Finding Joy in Different Seasons
24:57 – The Good Enough Dating Relationship
25:38 – The Dating Recession
28:19 – Rethinking Dating Expectations
29:54 – Learning to Adapt in Marriage
31:28 – Improving Relationship Education
33:12 – Practical Help for Specific Problems
35:06 – Different Levels of Relationship Education
38:18 – Evaluating Stronger Marriage Resources
40:17 – Why Marriage Rates Are Declining
41:27 – The Future of AI and Relationships
42:09 – Will AI Replace Relationship Education?
44:19 – Building Trustworthy AI Relationship Tools
46:12 – Opportunities and Risks of AI
48:52 – Let Good Enough Be Good
50:35 – Takeaway of the Day

Takeaway of the Day

Alan Hawkins: Remember that great is often a season, not a status of a relationship. A good marriage doesn't have to be extraordinary every day to be meaningful and fulfilling. Instead of constantly chasing perfection, appreciate the comfort, security, commitment, and connection you already share. Let good be good enough, and allow the great moments to come naturally.

Liz Hale: Being satisfied with a good marriage doesn't mean you stop growing together. Couples can appreciate what is already working while continuing to identify areas where they would like to improve. Whether it's strengthening communication, having more fun, or developing new skills, there is always an opportunity to move from “good enough to gooder.”

Dave Schramm: Good marriages don't happen by accident. Even healthy, connected couples experience stress, disagreements, and difficult seasons. What matters is continuing to invest in the relationship through intentional effort, learning, and commitment. Rather than expecting constant happiness or perfection, focus on making steady progress and building a marriage that grows stronger over time.

About Alan:

Alan Hawkins, PhD, is the current Chair of the Utah Marriage Commission. He serves as the Vice-chair of the National Alliance for Relationship and Marriage Education. And he is a non-resident fellow with the Institute for Family Studies and an Affiliated Scholar with the Wheatley Institute at Brigham Young University. He retired in 2023 from the School of Family Life at Brigham Young University where he taught and did research for 33 years.

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The 7 Financial Blind Spots Every Couple Should Know | Dee Zimmerman | 198 Oct 12, 2026

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In This episode of Stronger Marriage Connection, financial relationship coach Dee Zimmerman joins Dave Schramm and Liz Hale to uncover seven common financial blind spots that can quietly create stress, resentment, and disconnection in marriage. Dee explains why money problems often go deeper than dollars and budgets, reflecting differences in values, fears, family histories, and dreams for the future. Couples will learn how to recognize hidden financial stress, create shared financial goals, communicate more effectively about money, and build systems that support both their finances and their relationship.
Chapters
00:00 – Seven Financial Blind Spots
02:58 – No Shared Financial Direction
05:44 – Start Money Conversations Early
07:20 – Identify Your Money Values
08:58 – Uneven Financial Awareness
11:01 – Build Financial Partnership Together
11:59 – Choose the Right Time
15:24 – Conversations That Go Nowhere
16:36 – Money Is More Than Numbers
19:30 – Hidden Financial Stress
20:34 – Understanding Your Money Fears
21:36 – Signs of Financial Stress
25:02 – Different Comfort Levels With Spending
25:28 – Rethinking Spenders and Savers
28:26 – How Family Shapes Money Habits
31:26 – Financial Systems Without Collaboration
32:10 – Creating Healthy Financial Systems
35:46 – Uncertainty About the Future
37:41 – Financial Fear Affects Relationships
40:22 – Financial Resources and Support
42:06 – Courageous Money Conversations
43:16 – Takeaway of the Day
Takeaway of the Day
Dee Zimmerman: Financial stress doesn't necessarily mean you or your relationship are failing. There are often deeper reasons underneath money struggles that may not be immediately obvious. Becoming aware of those underlying values, fears, and patterns is the first step toward addressing them together.
Liz Hale: Look beneath the numbers. Just as conflicts about sex, parenting, or housework often represent something deeper, financial disagreements can point toward underlying needs for connection, safety, and satisfaction. Understanding what's underneath the conflict can help couples connect more deeply.
Dave Schramm: Be intentional about talking about money rather than allowing fear to lead to avoidance. Strong, connected marriages don't happen by accident. Couples need to take action, have important conversations, and intentionally work together so financial issues don't become a wedge that causes them to drift apart.
About Dee
Dee Zimmerman is a Financial Relationship Coach who helps couples talk about money without the fights, so they can manage their finances more peacefully and build long-term wealth together. Her work sits in the space between relationship science and practical financial strategy, blending Gottman-informed communication tools with systems and financial guidance that help couples reduce stress, improve alignment, and feel more confident about their future.
In addition to coaching, Dee is a podcast guest and writer focused on the relational side of money. She and her husband are currently navigating a major life transition and relocation after almost 30 years in Colorado, an experience that continues to deepen her perspective on partnership, communication, and financial decision-making in real life.
You can learn more at Dee's website, dzimmermanfinance.com. She also has a free guide called “7 Financial Blind Spots Worth Noticing,” which ties in closely with what we will talk about today.
Dee's Resources:

Free guide—7 Financial Blind Spots Worth Noticing: https://www.dzimmermanfinance.com/blindspots
Website: https://www.dzimmermanfinance.com/
Private Coaching—Wealth Together: https://www.dzimmermanfinance.com/wealth-together
Blog: https://www.dzimmermanfinance.com/blog
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3jenew-JVJa8IQHfCIzGAw

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How A Love Life Advisor Can Help Couples Rebuild Connection | Lea Haber | 197 Oct 05, 2026

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In this episode of Stronger Marriage Connection, global relationship coach and clinical sexologist Dr. Lea Haber joins Dave Schramm and Liz Hale to explain what it means to have a “personal trainer” for your love life. Lea explores the quiet disconnection that can pull couples apart, why small moments of intentional connection matter, and how desire changes in long-term relationships. She also shares practical ways couples can strengthen communication, intimacy, curiosity, and shared vision before serious problems develop. Whether couples are preparing for marriage or simply want to move from a good relationship to a great one, Lea emphasizes that lasting love requires continued investment and intentional effort.
#marriageadvice #relationshipcoaching #marriageintimacy #healthyrelationships
Chapters
00:00 – Meet Dr. Lea Haber
01:53 – Understanding Clinical Sexology
03:17 – A Personal Trainer for Love
05:28 – What Quietly Pulls Couples Apart
06:35 – The Magic Wand Question
07:29 – Creating Intentional Connection
08:07 – The Power of Micro Moments
09:35 – What Are You Chasing?
10:15 – Creating Shared Meaning Together
10:38 – Understanding Desire in Marriage
11:01 – Spontaneous Versus Responsive Desire
12:23 – Why Desire Levels Differ
13:29 – Talking About Desire Differences
14:34 – Homework That Strengthens Relationships
15:39 – Date Your Partner Again
16:28 – Planning Beyond the Wedding
18:51 – Marriage Preparation at Any Stage
20:07 – Conversations Couples Need to Have
21:24 – Personalized Marriage Support
24:26 – Who Benefits From Marriage Coaching?
25:42 – Everything in Marriage Is Connected
26:32 – Helping Couples Find Common Ground
28:23 – Stop Comparing Your Marriage
30:15 – Finding the Right Relationship Expert
32:08 – What Strong Couples Do Differently
33:17 – Stay Curious Before Furious
35:26 – Keys to Stronger Connection
36:26 – Takeaway of the Day
Takeaway of the Day
Lea Haber: Everything in a relationship is deeply interconnected. Communication, emotional connection, intimacy, and other areas of marriage influence one another, so couples benefit from continually investing in the relationship as a whole. Episode 197 - Lea Haber - Love …
Liz Hale: There is value in seeking expert guidance for your love life just as you might seek professional advice in other important areas. Even when only one partner begins making small, positive changes, those efforts can create a ripple effect within the relationship. Episode 197 - Lea Haber - Love …
Dave Schramm: Good relationships can become great relationships when couples are willing to invest the time and effort. Strong marriages aren't built through one “secret sauce,” but through communication, intentionality, outside support when needed, and many small and simple actions over time. Episode 197 - Lea Haber - Love …
About Dr. Lea Haber
Dr. Lea Haber, Ph.D., is a global relationship expert, clinical sexologist, author, and founder of Dr. LoveLea, a private advisory built on the belief that an extraordinary love life is built, not found.
Specializing in modern premarital guidance, Dr. Lea works with couples to understand the patterns they bring into relationships, clarify the partnership they want to build, and identify the personal work needed to create lasting commitment. Her approach is secular, flexible, and designed for contemporary couples seeking practical and meaningful preparation for marriage.
Dr. Lea holds a Ph.D. in Clinical Sexology and degrees from NYU and Columbia. Her creative, science-informed, and solutions-oriented approach incorporates elements of the Gottman Method, cognitive behavioral techniques, motivational interviewing, and play-based practices. She helps couples navigate communication, conflict resolution, intimacy, shared values, life transitions, and long-term goals.
She is the author of the bestselling book Planning Beyond the Wedding, which encourages couples to devote as much intention to building their marriage as they do to planning their wedding. She also created the Kiss & Commit relationship card game and a comprehensive online premarital course designed to make relationship education engaging, accessible, and actionable.
Dr. Lea’s Resources
Webite: www.drlovelea.com
Wesbite: www.kissandcommit.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kissandcommit

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The ABCD's Of A Technology Family Detox | Arlene Pellicane | 196 Sep 28, 2026

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In this episode of Stronger Marriage Connection, author and speaker Arlene Pellicane joins Dave Schramm and Liz Hale to talk about how technology is shaping family life—and what parents can do when screens begin replacing sleep, hobbies, conversations, and face-to-face connection. Drawing from her book The Great Tech Reset, Arlene explains the “ABCD harms” of technology and shares practical ideas for setting healthier boundaries around smartphones, social media, video games, and AI. Rather than eliminating technology altogether, the conversation focuses on helping families use it intentionally while making more room for real relationships, outdoor activities, creativity, and meaningful family memories.

Chapters

00:00 – Technology's Impact on Family Life
01:08 – When Screens Interfere With Connection
02:50 – Why Families Need a Tech Reset
03:57 – The ABCD Harms of Technology
08:01 – Warning Signs of Technology Problems
09:49 – The Bad Babysitter Problem
11:38 – Helping Kids Play Without Screens
13:18 – Discovering Interests Beyond Technology
13:59 – Expect Resistance From Your Kids
16:26 – Social Media and Teen Anxiety
19:57 – How Smartphones Changed Childhood
20:55 – Raising Kids Without Smartphones
24:45 – Finding Practical Technology Workarounds
26:03 – Parenting in the Age of AI
29:40 – Creating a Family Technology Plan
32:31 – Parents Must Model Healthy Technology
36:03 – Replacing Screens With Real Connection
38:08 – The Great Tech Reset Resources
39:14 – Takeaway of the Day

Takeaway of the Day

Arlene Pellicane: You only get one childhood with your child, so make sure you—not a device—are a major part of it. Don't be afraid to delay technology or remove something that has become problematic. Setting limits may bring resistance, but parents shouldn't be afraid to do the harder thing now to protect connection and healthy development later. Episode 196 - Arlene Pellicane …

Liz Hale: We often worry about dangers to children in the physical world while overlooking risks that can reach them online. Liz's takeaway is to become more aware of those digital influences and give online safety the attention it deserves. Episode 196 - Arlene Pellicane …

Dave Schramm: Technology can be incredibly useful, but it shouldn't replace the experiences that build strong relationships. Keep screens away from bedrooms, beds, and family meals when possible, and replace some of that screen time with real connection—getting outdoors, going on dates, talking together, and creating memories through shared activities. Episode 196 - Arlene Pellicane …

About Arlene Pellicane:

Arlene Pellicane is a speaker, host of the Happy Home podcast, and author of several books including Making Marriage Easier, The Great Tech Reset, and Screen Kids.

Arlene has been featured on the Today Show, Fox & Friends, the Wall Street Journal, FamilyLife Today and Focus on the Family and is the spokesperson for National Marriage Week. Arlene and her husband James have three children and live in San Diego.

Arlene’s Resources:

Website: https://arlenepellicane.com/

Books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B004R7BTF2

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/arlenepellicane/?hl=en

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ArlenePellicaneAuthor/

Focus On The Family: https://www.focusonthefamily.com/contributors/arlene-pellicane/

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"Stop Doing That! It's Driving Me Crazy?" Misophonia in Marriage | Thomas Phelan | 195 Sep 21, 2026

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Ordinary sounds like chewing or breathing can trigger real fight-or-flight, and that reaction can quietly strain closeness at home. We talk with Dr. Thomas Phelan about what misophonia feels like, why it can spiral into resentment, and how we can respond with no-fault compassion and practical plans.
• what mesophonia is and how it differs from everyday annoyance
• why mouth sounds are common triggers and why reactions can include rage and panic
• how repeated triggers can create resentment, distance, and dread around family dinner
• the “second reaction” spiral of shame, blame, and negative stories after a trigger
• how we start the conversation without blaming, including using written resources first
• negotiated accommodations that reduce triggers without avoiding your spouse
• the ABCD model and “five-second plan” to interrupt the reaction fast
• why “no-fault” thinking becomes the heart of therapy for couples and families
• the key to stronger connection: shared one-on-one fun

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How To Keep The SPARK Alive In Marriage | Dan Purcell | 194 Sep 14, 2026

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We welcome back marriage intimacy coach Dan Purcell to talk about why couples drift into “roommate mode” and how to rebuild fun, friendship, and desire with small daily choices. We share mindset shifts and practical tools that help us create “our spark” on purpose, even in busy seasons with stress, kids, and routines.
• Dan’s rebrand from Dating Divas to Date Your Spouse and the mission of strengthening marriages one date at a time
• why fun and play fade after the honeymoon and how passive drifting fuels disconnection
• challenges as a developmental invitation and “irritation is an invitation” mindset
• “our spark” and the courage it takes for one partner to go first
• simple daily habits that keep emotional connection alive
• the emotions check-in practice for speaking emotionally without rebuttal
• curiosity as the skill that keeps your relationship map updated
• differentiation over defensiveness and staying connected through differences
• what makes date nights meaningful, creative, and connecting
• Sparked app features for daily prompts, date planning, memory keeping, and at-home experiences
• Just Between Us for private, protected couple messaging
• where to find Dan’s work at dateyourspouse.com and getyourmarriageon.com

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How Fear and Anxiety Sabotage Intimacy in Marriage | Sami Shun | 193 Sep 07, 2026

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We sit down with licensed psychologist Dr. Sami Chun to make sexual intimacy easier to talk about and more honest to live. We trade myths and pressure for practical language around safety, excitement, and connection so couples can navigate desire differences without shame.

• why defining “sex” upfront reduces misunderstanding and disconnection
• Dr. Chun’s SEX acronym: safety, excitement, and connection
• how anxiety and performance pressure shut down arousal
• the five gears of intimacy and how to stop “jumping to fifth”
• myths about desire, orgasm, and what arousal “should” look like
• the APPLE framework: anxiety, pain, and loneliness as signals
• how to make requests instead of assumptions or demands
• when to consider couples, family, group, or individual therapy
• the practice of being responsible for yourself to your partner

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Start With RELATE To Build A Stronger Marriage Connection | Sonnet Hintze | 192 Aug 31, 2026

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We sit down with marriage and family therapist Sonnet Hinsey to talk about premarital education as prevention, not therapy for people in trouble. We break down the Five Love Languages, Gottman-inspired connection habits, and simple action plans that help couples stay close when the “in love” high shifts into real life.
• why prevention work matters before conflict hardens into patterns
• how RELATE and READY assessments create clarity and shared language
• what keeps premarital education from feeling scary or stigmatized
• the Five Love Languages and why couples “miss the mark” with good intentions
• building a concrete love language action plan that actually gets used
• Gottman concepts that strengthen friendship, fondness and daily connection
• bids for connection and why small responses matter more than grand gestures
• budgeting and money talks as part of preparing for marriage
• simple CBT tools for handling triggers and communicating needs
• Sonnet’s online love languages date night and follow-up supports

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The Power of Pathological Positivity In Marriage | Dr. Paul Jenkins | 191 Aug 24, 2026

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We talk with Dr. Paul Jenkins about a clear positivity model that explains why our brains swing between judging what is and building what’s next, and how that swing shows up in marriage. We walk away with simple tools that replace helpless frustration with choice, hope, and daily actions that actually change the tone at home.

• Dr. Jenkins’ shift from traditional therapy to positive psychology after a humbling bankruptcy
• Awareness precedes choice as a foundation for personal growth and relationship repair
• Two constant mind processes: evaluation of what is and creation of what is to be
• How comparison drives emotion and why “it could be worse” can create real relief
• Hope versus anxiety as outcomes of what we imagine is coming next
• Toxic positivity as denial of reality versus healthy positivity as making peace with reality
• Gratitude power-up as a five-day practice to notice what is good right now
• BB8 Better By Eight as a small daily creation habit for immediate upgrades
• Choosing love as a verb and a daily decision that shapes the marriage

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