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Stephan Livera Podcast

Join Stephan as he interviews the sharpest economic and technical minds in Bitcoin & Austrian Economics to help you understand how money is changing and evolving. Leading names in the world of Bitcoin join the show to share their insights, whether they are developers, CEOs, economists, authors, analysts and more.

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Latest Episodes:

Bitcoin Seoul 2024 Interviews with Saifedean, Jimmy Song, Laolu, Obi, glozow and Calvin SLP581 Jun 04, 2024

Show notes

I recently spoke at Bitcoin Seoul 2024 and here are some interviews with some of the speakers:

Calvin Kim on utreexo
Gloria Zhao on Bitcoin Core and mempool
Laolu on Taproot Assets and covenants
Saifedean on Central Banking and tax cattle
Obi Nwosu on Fedi
Jimmy Song on Bitcoin in Korea

Timestamps:

(00:00) - Calvin Kim on importance of Bitcoin conferences

(01:51) - Simplifying Utreexo

(03:31) - What is Utreexod?

(04:51) - Will node providers support Utreexo?

(06:38) - Gloria Zhao on BIP431 (Truc)

(08:15) - Implications of Truc

(12:26) - What is mempool cluster?

(14:08) - P2P encryption on Bitcoin core V27.0

(15:22) - Upcoming developments on Bitcoin core

(18:04) - Sponsors(20:13) - Laolu (Roasbeef) on Taproot assets

(25:29) - LSP Challenges on issuing stablecoins

(28:21) - Views on covenants

(31:51) - Ensuring protocol safety while enabling Opcodes

(34:33) - Saifedean’s views on Bitcoin Seoul 2024

(34:44) - Central Bank behaving like a private organisation

(40:21) - ‘The Keynesian Voodoo’

(46:35) - All roads lead to Bitcoin

(48:26) - Sponsors

(50:45) - Latest developments at Fedi with Obi Nwosu

(52:23) - Role of the Fedimint Guardians

(54:40) - Fees on Fedi

(56:18) - Fedi’s Social backup and recovery model

(58:26) - Risks of getting rugged

(1:01:23) - Fedi is trust-reduced

(1:03:11) - Jimmy Song’s views on Bitcoin Seoul 2024

(1:04:18) - Views on Bitcoin’s Technical developments

(1:05:46) - Savings culture among Koreans & role of Bitcoin

(1:09:16) - Outro

Links:

X: x.com/saifedean
Saifedean episode: https://saifedean.com/podcast/222-central-banking-works
X: x.com/glozow
Bitcoin review club: https://bitcoincore.reviews/
BIP 431: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0431.mediawiki
X: x.com/obi
Fedi: https://www.fedi.xyz/
X: x.com/roasbeef
Lightning Labs: https://lightning.engineering/
X: https://x.com/kcalvinalvinn
Utreexod beta release: https://groups.google.com/g/bitcoindev/c/5GyV9af9lv4?pli=1
X: x.com/jimmysong

Sponsors:

Stephan Livera links:

Bitcoin and MEV with Walt Smith SLP580 Jun 02, 2024

Show notes

Walt Smith of cyber.fund joins me to discuss thoughts on MEV and where it may be going on Bitcoin.

We discuss:

Defining MEV
10 minute block time?
Does it centralise Bitcoin?
Suffering from success
The approach on shitcoins and spam

Timestamps:

(00:00) - Intro

(02:02) - Defining MEV

(06:02) - Replace-by-fee (RBF)

(11:01) - Concern regarding miner centralisation

(18:56) - Growth of private mempool flow & MEV potential?

(24:55) - Are mining pools transparent with fee payouts?

(27:01) - Expressivity on Bitcoin

(31:21) - Sponsors

(35:24) - Does the 10 minute block time mitigate MEV?

(40:27) - Is Bitcoin more than ‘money’?

(46:05) - Fake L2's on Bitcoin

(51:24) - Does MEV lead to miner centralisation?

(56:15) - Closing thoughts on MEV

Links:

Sponsors:

Swan.com (code LIVERA)
CoinKite.com (code LIVERA)
Mempool.space

Stephan Livera links:

Silent Payments: A Bitcoin username? With Josibake and Ruben Somsen SLP579 May 27, 2024

Show notes

Silent Payments is a new approach to improving privacy and useability of Bitcoin. Imagine not needing to manually create new addresses? Josibake and Ruben Somsen join me to discuss some of the ins and outs of Silent Payments. We discuss:

Silent Payments overview
Contrast with other techniques such as BIP47
Light client support
Stopping address re use
Base layer privacy discussion

Links:

X: @josibake
X: @SomsenRuben
BIP: Silent Payments
Tracking progress in Bitcoin Core/libsecp256k1
Informational website from sethforprivacy : Privacy-preserving static addresses for Bitcoin

Sponsors:

Swan.com (code LIVERA)
CoinKite.com (code LIVERA)
Mempool.space

Stephan Livera links:

Timestamps:

(00:00) - Intro

(01:01) - Overview of Silent Payments (SP)

(03:15) - History of the SP idea & contrast with other methods

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(14:36) - Current status of SP development & adoption

(17:49) - Testing light clients for SP

(21:50) - The Silent Payment Experience

(26:31) - Light client support

(31:20) - What is a light client?

(38:05) - Sponsors

(41:16) - Spend Key & Scan Key

(42:37) - XPUB vs. Silent Payments

(44:42) - Reducing address re-use with SP

(49:29) - Labeling with Silent Payments

(53:14) - Ease of use and compatibility with Lightning

(57:03) - Overcoming the ‘silver bullet’ mindset

(01:10:50) - Composability with Silent Payments

(01:12:46) - Silent Payments summary

(01:14:06) - Closing Thoughts

Bitaxe: The Open Source Bitcoin Miner with Skot - SLP578 May 24, 2024

Show notes

Skot joins me to talk about his project to bring affordable, energy efficient, open source mining to home miners. We discuss:

The current state of open source in bitcoin mining
Bitaxe overview
Why do people do this?
Price and how to set one up
Mining pools
Decentralisation

Links:

X: @skot9000
Site: Bitaxe.org

Sponsors:

Stephan Livera links:

Great Script Restoration with Rusty Russell SLP577 May 22, 2024

Show notes

Rusty Russell rejoins me on the show to talk about a new idea for a bitcoin soft fork that hopefully avoids some of the ‘horse trading’ dynamic that existed amongst other proposals. Listen in to learn more about the different paradigm that Rusty introduces here, so that developers can build more functionality and efficiency in, hopefully so that more people can use Bitcoin in self-custody.

Bitcoin Script background
GSR overview
GSR benefits
What is varops
Contrast with APO or LNHANCE?
Will it enable shitcoins and spam?

Relevant previous episodes:

Links:

Sponsors:

Swan.com (code LIVERA)
CoinKite.com (code LIVERA)
Mempool.space

Stephan Livera links:

Payjoin Dev Kit for Bitcoin Privacy - Dan Gould SLP576 May 21, 2024

Show notes

Dan Gould of the PayJoin Dev Kit (sponsored by Spiral and Opensats) joins me to discuss how Bitcoin privacy could be improved with more PayJoin adoption. What’s more, it might also benefit users in consolidating their wallets or potentially even fee savings. We discuss how this could be integrated into more bitcoin wallets.

What is a PayJoin?
How it helps privacy
Other benefits in efficiency
Downsides and trade offs
Changes with the v2 PayJoin protocol
PayJoin Directory
Payjoin Dev Kit

Links:

Sponsors:

Swan.com (code LIVERA)
CoinKite.com (code LIVERA)
Mempool.space

Stephan Livera links:

Core Scientific Exits Bankruptcy with Adam Sullivan SLP575 May 17, 2024

Show notes

Adam Sullivan, CEO of Core Scientific joins me today as we chat about:

Going through bankruptcy as a Bitcoin miner
Debt financing
Role of capital structure in mining
What makes Core Scientific different?
Centralisation of mining pools
Fee dynamics going forward
2025 outlook on Mining

Links:

X: @_Adam_Sullivan1
Core Scientific: C ore s cientific.com

Sponsors:

Swan.com (code LIVERA)
CoinKite.com (code LIVERA)
Mempool.space

Stephan Livera links:

Bitcoin Mining and Capital Structure with Rapha Zagury SLP574 May 14, 2024

Show notes

Rapha Zagury, CIO of Swan and Head of Swan Mining rejoins me on the show to talk about a range of topics, from Brazil’s flooding, Bitcoin Mining, Capital Structure, as well as share some insights on speaking to TradFi professionals about Bitcoin.

Links:

X: @alphaazeta
Site: S wan.com
Site: N akamotoportfolio.com
Nakamoto Gauntlet: The Nakamoto Portfolio Gauntlet

Sponsors:

Swan.com (code LIVERA)
CoinKite.com (code LIVERA)
Mempool.space

Stephan Livera links:

A Shift in Bitcoin Developer Thought? with Brandon Black (aka reardencode) SLP573 May 10, 2024

Show notes

As you may know, at the recent Bitcoin++ conference, there was a ‘meeting of the minds’ and Brandon Black aka reardencode rejoins me on the show to discuss. We talk about:

The state of various covenant proposals
What has shifted now in thinking
The promise of Great Script Restoration
Could it have bad side effects?
Doing good engineering

Links:

X: @reardencode
Bitcoin++: btcplusplus.dev
Rusty’s talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSp8918HLnA

Sponsors:

Swan.com (code LIVERA)
CoinKite.com (code LIVERA)
Mempool.space

Stephan Livera links:

Bitcoiners, Don’t Sleep on Nostr! - Miljan SLP572 May 08, 2024

Show notes

Miljan from Primal joins me to talk about why Bitcoiners should not sleep on Nostr. We chat:

Why he’s bullish on nostr
What the experience is like nowadays
Network effects for creators and devs
Dealing with spam and sybil
Why Openness is the killer feature

Links:

X: @mbraticevic
Site: P rimal.net
Miljan’s Nostr npub: npub16c0nh3dnadzqpm76uctf5hqhe2lny344zsmpm6feee9p5rdxaa9q586nvr
Miljan’s Nostr: miljan@primal.net

Sponsors:

Stephan Livera links:

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