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    How to use story to build your brand, shape your influence, and improve your mindset! BONUS EPISODE 203 Jul 15, 2022
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    Title: How to use story to build your brand, shape your influence, and improve your mindset! BONUS EPISODE 203

    [THIS WEEK’S BONUS EPISODE IS REPACKAGED FROM EPISODE 166. ]

    THIS WEEK’S TOPIC:

    Harnessing the power of storytelling can help you establish trust and connection with others, and, when done especially well, storytelling can also help you attract (and retain) your target audience, build support for a cause, win deals, and get you on sought after guest lists. It’s a skill— and it can be an important part of building your INFLUENCE!

    THIS WEEK’S GUEST:

    Kindra Hall is a professional storyteller, and a master at understanding and harnessing the power of stories that sell and captivate. Kindra started winning awards as a child when she wowed audiences with her ability to tell a story. She took that talent and turned it into a career which not only includes keynote speaking about storytelling and the power of story, but also online courses, a successful podcast, and two books.

    Kindra’s first book “Stories that Stick: How Storytelling Can Captivate Customers, Influence Audiences, and Transform Your Business” debuted at #2 on the WSJ bestseller list, and Forbes said it “may be the most valuable business book you will read.” Kindra’s second book “Choose your Story/Change your Life: Silence Your Inner Critic and Rewrite Your Life from the Inside Out” was published in January 2022.

    KEY TOPICS:

    MAKING STORY PART OF YOUR PITCH: Why “telling someone about you” and “telling someone a STORY about you” are two distinctly different things. We talk about both approaches.

    HOW STORY AND INFLUENCE TIE TOGETHER: We talk about the link between story and influence and why CONNECTION with your audience really matters for building TRUST, and how both factors ultimately help build INFLUENCE.

    THE STORIES WE TELL OURSELVES: Kindra gives us a sneak peak into her upcoming book, and why the most essential people we need to influence are OURSELVES!

    HOW A CHILDHOOD PASSION CAN HOLD THE KEY TO A FUTURE CAREER ENDEAVOR: Not everyone understood Kindra’s choice of storytelling as a career, but by tapping into a gift she had honed since childhood gave her confidence to face naysayers and to use her gift to provide a unique offering for others.

    MAKE STORIES STICK: Kindra shows us how everyday stories and details make our messages “stick” in our audience’s mind and memory. What’s so amazing about her message is that storytelling is available to each and every one of us. The stories she shares in this conversation so perfectly illustrate that point.

    While storytelling may come more naturally to some, understanding the power of story, and how to harness and fine tune our own storytelling skills, is an undeniably good investment YOU can make in YOU!

    Let me know what you thought of the episode. Which stories and advice resonated most with you? I’d love to hear from you! Connect with me on Instagram @LauraCoxKaplan or via the contact link: She Said/She Said Podcast

    And, if you are feeling generous, please be sure to leave a review on Itunes. Reviews help others who are looking for content like this to find it. Have a great week!

    ABOUT KINDRA HALL

    Order Stories that Stick: How Storytelling Can Captivate Customers, Influence Audiences, and Transform Your Business

    Pre-order Choose Your Story, Change Your Life: Silence Your Inner Critic and Rewrite Your Life from the Inside Out

    Episode 166 with Kindra Hall

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    How to overcome fear & build risk tolerance needed for growth [Bonus Episode] Jul 08, 2022
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    SHOW NOTES – EPISODE 202 [Bonus Episode]

    TITLE: How to overcome fear and build risk tolerance needed for growth, Episode 202 [Bonus Episode]

    GUEST: SUKHINDER SINGH CASSIDY

    TOPIC: Risk taking is important for securing new opportunities, growing our confidence, learning new skills, and for overcoming fear, but how can we grow risk tolerance and overcome fear when it’s FEAR that often prevents us from taking that risk in the first place?

    To answer that question, I’m drawing on an episode recorded back in 2021 that I’ve repackaged for you while I’m on break for the next few weeks. It contains some of the most helpful advice on the topic of building risk tolerance from someone whose successful career as a tech entrepreneur has been a product of the same thoughtful approach she shares in this episode. I think you’ll love it!

    ABOUT THIS WEEK’S GUEST

    Sukhinder Singh Cassidy and I sat down and recorded this conversation to promote the release of her book “Choose Possibility: Take Risks and Thrive (even when you fail).” She has been at the forefront of innovation in Silicon Valley for the past two decades— launching startups, leading the team that developed Google Maps, and overseeing numerous business transformations — including most recently as CEO of STUB HUB. She not only practices what she preaches, but is sharing her thoughtful approach in ways that can help each of us build greater capacity for tackling risks, and the fear that can come with risk taking.

    KEY TOPICS IN EPISODE 202:

    • Sukhinder shares her career journey and some of her earliest experiences with risk taking.
    • Sukhinder and I talk about the importance of developing regular risk taking habits. Even small risks taken regularly help build momentum and confidence needed to tackle larger risks.
    • Sukhinder shares what she calls “the universal risk taking equation” which includes understanding the difference between “fear of failure” and “fear of missing out” and how to leverage each.
    • We talk about why visualization is important and why it must include detailed strategies not just for visualizing success, but also (maybe even more importantly) for what you will do when you fall short of your goal or fail.
    • We also talk about the connection between risk taking and confidence.

    INFLUENCE

    While Sukhinder and I don’t specifically talk about the connection between influence and risk taking in this conversation, as I reflected on it, I love that there is a clear connection between this notion of activity seeking opportunities to learn, including from those experiences that didn’t turn out as we had originally hoped. Failures — or missing our mark — always provide some of the best learning opportunities, so long as our mindset is focused not on what we lost, but what we gained in the process and how we can use that knowledge going forward.

    HELPFUL LINKS:

    BOOK: “Choose Possibility: Take Risks and Thrive (even when you fail)” by Sukhinder Singh Cassidy

    Full conversation with Sukhinder in Episode 159: it also includes her perspective on her work to get more women on corporate boards and why she founded The Board List.

    I’D LOVE YOUR FEEDBACK: I hope you found this investment of your time worthwhile and would love to hear your thoughts. DM me @lauraCoxKaplan on Instagram, LinkedIn, or Facebook. Or, use the contact link on shesaidshesaidpodcast.com — I’d love to hear from you! And, if you are feeling generous, please be sure to leave a review on iTunes or wherever you are listening to she said/she said podcast.

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    How to harness your creative potential and why it matters! Episode 201 with guest Aimee Mayo Jun 25, 2022
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    EPISODE TITLE: How to harness your creative potential, and why it matters! Episode 201

    GUEST: Aimee Mayo, songwriter/author

    TOPIC: There is incredible value in learning how to tap into creativity no matter what your career goals or aspirations. In fact, creativity often provides that “secret sauce” that helps you differentiate yourself or your brand. It can also help you sell an idea, illustrate your value within an organization, and even package the services you can provide to others as you think about a career pivot or reinvention.

    Understanding and leveraging creativity can enable us to push through when a problem seems insurmountable, or can help us see a problem from a different vantage point, or maybe help us be more open to seeing solutions others missed.

    HOW CREATIVITY RELATES TO INFLUENCE: We don’t always think about creativity related to building and sustaining influence, and yet when we think about the people who push through barriers, do things differently, and who are challenging conventional wisdom they are without a doubt tapping into some pretty creative “magic.” They are also building influence and having a major impact in the process.The ability to harness creativity can have a direct impact on our success, and on our ability to inspire and motivate others.

    THIS WEEK’S GUEST: Aimee Mayo is a grammy-nominated songwriter and author. Her songs have spent 26 weeks in the #1 spot on the Billboard charts, and albums featuring her songs have sold more than 155 million units worldwide. She is known for writing hits for artists including: Taylor Swift, Tim Mcgraw, Lonestar, Kenny Chesney, Meghan Trainer, Adam Lambert, Carrie Underwood, Martina McBride, Billy Currington, and many more. Her song “Amazed,” recorded by Lonestar, is one of her most popular to date. Aimee is one of only a handful of female songwriters to receive both BMI’s Country Song of the Year and Songwriter of the Year awards, putting her in the rare company of legends like Dolly Parton, Loretta Lynn and Taylor Swift. Her book “Talking to the Sky” is currently being made into a movie of her life.

    KEY TOPICS:

    In this week’s conversation, you’ll hear:

    * What helped Aimee push through fear to enable her to share her personal story with the world.

    * What she considers the secret to her success.

    * Why she thinks about her painful childhood as “a gift.”

    * Her perspective on competing with one’s previous success.

    * What she learned from the most successful female artists about what they do differently.

    * You’ll also hear a lot in this week’s conversation about MINDSET and some other factors that help us create the conditions in which creativity and inspiration are more likely to strike.

    DIFFICULT TOPICS: Aimee and I reference a number of difficult topics in this episode including: suicide, mental illness, and abuse. While we do not go into significant detail, these can be incredibly painful topics to hear about and to discuss. I hope — and I know Aimee would agree– that sharing her story will provide both hope and inspiration to anyone who may be struggling, and that Aimee’s perspective on creativity and on finding inspiration will give you much to help inspire your own story.

    IT’S TIME FOR A RECHARGE! Starting next week, I’ll be taking a few weeks off this summer to recharge and think about the past 200 episodes and your incredible feedback! Please send me more thoughts, and any additional feedback you think would be helpful. I’d really love to hear from you!

    In the meantime, I’ll be sharing some additional thoughts on the importance of a recharge, and some great tools and things I do to inspire my own creativity. You can follow along on my Instagram. Come join me there @LauraCoxKaplan

    I’ll miss you! But I hope you’ll continue to reach out with your thoughts, comments, perspective on past episodes — including this one. I’m grateful to spend time with you each week and I’ll look forward to talking to you soon. Take care.

    LINKS REFERENCED IN EPISODE 201:

    “Talking to the Sky” by Aimee Mayo

    “Big Magic” by Elizabeth Gilbert

    “The Creative Habit: Learn It and Use It for Life“ by Twyla Tharp

    TED Talk on “vibrational frequency”

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    Should your passion drive your pocketbook, or pocketbook drive your passion? Episode 200 with guest: Bobbi Rebell [part 2 of 2] Jun 19, 2022
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    TITLE: Should your passion drive your pocketbook, or pocketbook drive your passion? Episode 200

    Guest: Bobbi Rebell [part 2 of 2]

    TOPIC: You’ve no doubt heard or even received the advice “just follow your passion.” While finding and understanding what you’re good at, and leaning into areas that ignite your creative passions is undeniably good advice, it’s also advice that might not be financially practical at every phase in your life. Part two of my conversation with financial planner, author, and business journalist Bobbi Rebell opens with this topic.

    Too often, conversations about money and personal finance are missing from career development conversations despite the undeniable link that exists for most of us. Too much focus on money could suck the life blood from your dreams; Too little, might prevent you from building the resources needed to pursue that dream in the first place. Like so many things, there’s a balance to be struck. I love that this week’s conversation is grounded in these practical realiities, and in some honest advice about how investing in your career, even when it may mean a lower salary at different stages can help you build important “experience capital” for later — something that was a big part of my own early career experiences.

    THIS WEEK’S GUEST: Bobbi Rebell is a certified financial planner, author and business journalist. She joins me for part two of our two-part conversation. More about Bobbi.

    FULL SHOW NOTES AND TRANSCRIPTS AVAILABLE SheSaidSheSaidPodcast.Com

    KEY THEMES IN PART 2:

    • How to separate your passion from your income source — when you need to.
    • What you can learn from Bobbi’s biggest financial mistake, which also relates to the people with whom you surround yourself.
    • The questions you should ask of your future spouse or partner before you say “I do:” Love can make everything seem rosey, but skipping questions related to money and personal finance can be a big mistake and get your new marriage or partnership off on the wrong financial footing.
    • How personal finance can impact our self-esteem and confidence.
    • Why the people around you can have an outsized impact on your financial future
    • How Bobbi thinks about influence.

    LINKS AND BOOKS MENTIONED IN EPISODE 200:

    Part one of my conversation with Bobbi Rebell – she said/she said podcast Episode 199

    “Launcing Financial Grownups: Live Your Richest Life by Helping Your (Almost) Adult Kids Become Everyday Money Smart” by Bobbi Rebell

    “How to Be a Financial Grownup: Proven Advice from High Achievers on How to Live Your Dreams and Have Financial Freedom” by Bobbi Rebell

    Money Tips for Financial Grownups Podcast with Bobbi Rebell

    Grownup Gear – enter code: GrownUP for 15% off

    “Unfollow Your Passion” by Terri Trespicio

    “Own It: The Power of Women at Work” by Sally Krawcheck

    Queen Bees and Wannabees: Helping Your Daughter Survive Cliques, Gossip, Boys, and the New Realities of Girl World” by Rosalind Wiseman

    “White Hot: The Rise & Fall of Abercrombie & Fitch” – Netflix

    NEXT WEEK…. In Episodes 201 and 202, we’ll dive into the creative process with Grammy-nominated songwriter Aimee Mayo. Aimee’s memoir “Talking to the Stars” is a powerful and moving story of resilience, and how even the most painful experiences of Aimee’s childhood helped shape her gifts as a songwriter. Her perspective on the creative process is valuable as you think about the most innovative and powerful ways to share your own unique gifts with the world.

    FEEDBACK: I hope you found this investment of your time worthwhile and would love to hear your thoughts. DM me @lauraCoxKaplan on Instagram, LinkedIn, or Facebook. Or, use the contact link below or on shesaidshesaidpodcast.com — I’d love to hear from you! And, if you are feeling generous, please be sure to leave a review on iTunes or wherever you are listening to she said/she said podcast.

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    Protecting your own financial future doesn’t make you a bad parent! Bobbi Rebell [Episode 199] Part 1 of 2 Jun 12, 2022
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    SHOW NOTES EPISODE 199

    EPISODE TITLE: How investing in your kids’ financial literacy supports your own financial future & career options [Part 1 of 2]

    GUEST: Bobbi Rebell

    TOPIC:

    There’s a lot more to making a career shift or pivot than just figuring out what you want to do next. For most of us, one particularly important consideration is: MONEY. We have to ask ourselves: “Will I have enough if I decide to take a career break,” or maybe, “will I have enough to fund a passion project that might not — at least initially — yield the same financial rewards and revenue as my previous career?”

    That financial picture can be further complicated as other people enter or leave our lives, including when adult (or almost adult) kids are dependent for longer. Those decisions don’t just impact the potential life and career choices for the kids, but also for the parents.

    HOW THIS TOPIC RELATES TO INFLUENCE:

    Sometimes the greatest opportunity to have real influence is under our own roof. By teaching basic personal finance you’re not only helping your kids become more money savvy and gain financial independence, you’re also protecting and investing in your own future, something this week’s guest in an expert on and talks about in this conversation.

    THIS WEEK’S GUEST:

    Bobbi Rebell is a certified financial planner, author and business journalist. She shares her perspective on navigating career, parenting, and money choices and how she’s using her skills to help us make smarter, more thoughtful money choices that can impact us long into the future.

    One quick caveat, even if you are not a parent, I think you’ll love Bobbi’s advice and career lessons.

    KEY THEMES IN PART 1:

    * How the current economic environment and job market are different from the one past generations have entered, and why that matters.

    * How and why the “boomerang effect” has created a delay into adulthood for some, and an unanticipated financial burden for many others.

    * Why helping your adult children become financially independent (and literate) improves not only their financial future (and yours), but also their confidence

    * How Bobbi considered some stages in her career, especially when she become a mom, to be an investment in her future earning or “placeholder job” and why it’s important to look at the big picture often beyond just salary and childcare

    * How Bobbi laid the financial groundwork for her career pivots

    * Bobbi’s shares her tips for the best way to ask someone for advice

    * Why you should always ask yourself: “What sets you apart from other people?” And “What do you offer that no one else does?” And how those questions laid the groundwork for Bobbi’s first book.

    KEY TOPICS FOR NEXT WEEK’S EPISODE 200 [PART 2 OF MY CONVERSATION WITH BOBBI REBELL]:

    * We’ll talk about why pursuing your passion isn’t necessarily the same as pursuing your income.

    * What you can learn from something Bobbi considers her biggest financial mistake.

    * Why the people around you can have an outsized impact on your financial future

    * How Bobbi thinks about influence.

    Episode Links and Books:

    “Launcing Financial Grownups: Live Your Richest Life by Helping Your (Almost) Adult Kids Become Everyday Money Smart” by Bobbi Rebell

    “How to Be a Financial Grownup: Proven Advice from High Achievers on How to Live Your Dreams and Have Financial Freedom” by Bobbi Rebell

    Susan McPherson, Episode 191

    Money Tips for Financial Grownups Podcast

    Grownup Gear – enter code: GrownUP for 15% off

    “The Opposite of Spoiled” by Ron Lieber [Bobbi’s book recommendation for parents of younger kids]

    FEEDBACK: I hope you found this investment of your time worthwhile and would love to hear your thoughts. DM me @lauraCoxKaplan on Instagram, LinkedIn, or Facebook. Or, use the contact link below or on shesaidshesaidpodcast.com — I’d love to hear from you! And, if you are feeling generous, please be sure to leave a review on iTunes or wherever you are listening to she said/she said podcast. AND, please don’t forget, EPISODE 200 — part 2 of my conversation with Bobbi Rebell — posts next week!

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    How to level-set priorities in your life & career! Fran Hauser (Episode 198) Part 2 of 2 Jun 05, 2022
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    SHOW NOTES EPISODE 198

    TITLE: How to level-set priorities in your life and career!

    GUEST: FRAN HAUSER [part 2 of 2]

    TOPIC:

    Ever have trouble carving out time to strategize about your life, career, or a pivot you’re contemplating? Or maybe, once you do carve out the time, you aren’t sure how to structure that time so that you get the biggest return on your investment? What questions should you ask yourself? How much time should you spend? How often should you do this?

    Building in time for reflection and making it a regular habit or practice, is key to not only managing yourself, but to making sure that where you are spending your time is helping you move closer to the goals and/or the priorities that are most important to you. We don’t always think about reflection and time management as elements needed to build influence, and yet, without those practices in place, it’s really difficult to navigate all the competing demands on your time so that you can truly prioritize what’s most important while also helping you build and sustain influence in the process.

    This week, episode 198 is part two of a two-part conversation with startup investor, adviser, best-selling author (and renowned nice girl) Fran Hauser. If you missed part one, be sure and check it out here: Episode 197

    About Fran:

    Fran Hauser is a startup investor and adviser who is focused on leveling the playing field for women by sharing all that she’s learned in her incredibly varied career. A long-time media executive, Fran champions the power of content in shaping culture and educating the public. She’s the author of “The Myth of the Nice Girl: Achieving a Career You Love Without Becoming a Person You Hate.” The book has been translated into six languages and was named “Best Business Book of the Year in 2018” by Audible. Fran’s new book: Embrace the Work, Love Your Career” is a workbook for women seeking more joy and fulfillment in their career.

    Fran started her career in public accounting at PwC, moved into finance at Coca Cola, then to Movie Phone, onto AOL/Time Warner, and then into a series of high profile media positions at People, InStyle, Entertainment Weekly. At the peak of her corporate media career, she opted to strike out on her own to coach, mentor and invest in countless female founded companies (you’ve met a few of those founders on this podcast!) You can find Fran’s full bio here.

    KEY TOPICS FOR EPISODE 198 with Fran Hauser:

    • How Fran’s latest book: “Embrace the Work, Love Your Career” can help you level-set your life and career goals
    • Why focusing on four key areas can have an outsized impact on your career journey
    • Fran’s perspective on setting boundaries, while still adhering to her core value: always be nice
    • How and why mindfulness and reflection make a difference in your career journey
    • How an executive coach can help you
    • Fran’s four-square model for life and career alignment
    • How to stop saying “yes” when you really need to say “no”
    • Fran’s advice for developing a pitch that differentiates your brand or your business

    LINKS MENTIONED:

    “Myth of the Nice Girl: Achieving a Career You Love Without Becoming a Person You Hate” by Fran Hauser

    “Embrace the Work, Love Your Career” by Fran Hauser

    Episode 197: Part one with Fran Hauser

    FEEDBACK: I hope you found this investment of your time worthwhile, and I would love to hear your thoughts. DM me @lauraCoxKaplan on Instagram, LinkedIn, or Facebook. Or, use the contact link below or on shesaidshesaidpodcast.com — I’d love to hear from you! And, if you are feeling generous, please be sure to leave a review on iTunes or wherever you are listening to she said/she said podcast.


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    How “nice” can be a differentiating skill for career success! Fran Hauser, Episode 197 [Part 1 of 2] May 29, 2022
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    Title: How “nice” can be a differentiating skill for career success!

    SHOW NOTES EPISODE 197 [part 1 of 2]

    GUEST: FRAN HAUSER, author, startup investor and adviser

    TOPIC:

    Have you ever had someone tell you “you’re just too nice,” and they didn’t mean it as a compliment? Or maybe you worry that you’ve tried to overcompensate at times for the fact that you actually are incredibly nice, but if you let that show, you won’t be taken seriously at work or with clients?

    This topic has always been a bigger challenge for women. Getting the balance right between going the extra mile to care about colleagues and to show some vulnerability v. being a pushover can be challenging to navigate, especially if you struggle with “people pleasing.” By the way, “people pleasing” should not be confused with “nice” or adding real value at work. They are not the same thing. This week’s guest is the perfect person to help us break all of this down, while sharing what she’s learned over her distinguished career by being legitimate nice girl. The power of nice can indeed be a differentiating, timeless quality and one that has a great deal to do with building and sustaining influence in our lives and careers.

    THIS WEEK’S GUEST:

    Fran Hauser is a startup investor and adviser who is focused on leveling the playing field for women by sharing all that she’s learned in her incredibly varied career. A long-time media executive, Fran champions the power of content in shaping culture and educating the public. She’s the author of “The Myth of the Nice Girl: Achieving a Career You Love Without Becoming a Person You Hate” which has been translated into six languages and was named “Best Business Book of the Year in 2018” by Audible. Her new book: Embrace the Work, Love Your Career” is a workbook for women seeking more joy and fulfillment in their career.

    Fran has invested in more than 30 female-founded companies across CFG, media, publishing and wellness. She started in public accounting at PwC, moved into finance at Coca Cola, then to Movie Phone, AOL/Time Warner, and into a series of high profile media positions at People, InStyle, Entertainment Weekly. At the peak of her corporate media career, she opted to strike out on her own to coach, mentor and invest in female founded companies (you’ve met a few of them on this podcast!)

    KEY THEMES FROM THE CONVERSATION IN PART 1:

    • How nice has been a timeless and differentiating career skill for Fran
    • What we really mean by ” nice”
    • The magic of gratitude
    • How to lay the groundwork for your career pivots, and set yourself up for future success
    • How to make the career leaps that are right for YOU, even when others around you are questioning your decision
    • Where Fran’s learning agility comes from
    • How Fran’s parents’ immigrant story shaped her view of risk taking
    • How and why to push back against what others think you should do when your gut says, “you need to do something else”

    We’ll pick up Part 2 of the conversation with Fran NEXT WEEK in Episode 198!

    KEY TOPICS FOR EPISODE 198 with Fran Hauser:

    • How Fran’s latest book: “Embrace the Work, Love Your Career” can help you level-set your career and goals
    • Why a focus on four key areas can have an outsized impact on your career
    • How to set boundaries
    • The power of mindfulness and reflection
    • How an executive coach can help you
    • Fran’s four square model for life and career alignment
    • Saying “yes” when you really want to say “no”
    • A key piece of advice for developing a differentiating pitch for yourself and. your business

    EPISODE LINKS AND BOOKS:

    “Myth of the Nice Girl: Achieving a Career You Love Without Becoming a Person You Hate”

    “Embrace the Work, Love Your Career”

    Episode 179 – Mara Smith

    Episode 194 – How to increase your learning agility

    Episode 195 and 196 – Dana Hilmer & Wendy Perrotti, founders Camp Reinvention

    FEEDBACK: I hope you found this investment of your time worthwhile and would love to hear your thoughts. DM me @lauraCoxKaplan on Instagram, LinkedIn, or Facebook. Or, use the contact link on shesaidshesaidpodcast.com — I’d love to hear from you! And, if you are feeling generous, please be sure to leave a review on iTunes or wherever you are listening to she said/she said podcast.

    AND, please don’t forget— part 2 of this conversation posts next week in Episode 198!

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    Looking to reinvent or pivot? A few traps to avoid! Dana Hilmer & Wendy Perrotti, Part 2 of 2 – Episode 196 May 24, 2022
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    TITLE: Looking to reinvent or pivot? Beware these common traps! Part 2 of 2

    Episode 196

    Episode Topic:

    It’s difficult to reinvent yourself even when you know you need to make a pivot or change. Change, afterall, is incredibly difficult. That’s why there are shelves and shelves and shelves of books on the topic, and an endless array of podcasts designed to help you master the art of change.

    Fact is, we weren’t wired for it. But, embracing it, leaning into it, and doing so with a mindset that’s focused on what we can learn and how we can grow is literally the key to living our fullest while finding and maximizing our God-given gifts and talents while also building some new ones!

    I know, friend, it is easier said than done! But, in part 2 of this two part conversation on reinvention, my guests demystify a few aspects of personal reinvention and career pivots, and give you lots to think about while also giving you a few new tools to add to your personal tool kit!

    THIS WEEK’S GUESTS:

    Dana Hilmer and Wendy Perrotti are the co-founders of Camp Reinvention, a global company offering transformational programs, retreats, and community for women who are creating their next act.

    Wendy and Dana bring more than 30 years of coaching and training experience to Camp Reinvention and have been featured on hundreds of podcasts, television and radio shows. As a special treat for YOU, they are sharing their e-book “Freedom From What Keeps You Stuck,” for FREE! It’s terrific, and we discuss it in this two part conversation in Episodes 195 and 196. If you missed Episode 195, be sure to go back and listen.

    You can also join them in their free “Happy After 50” Facebook group.

    RECAP OF PART 1: KEY TOPICS IN EPISODE 195:

    HOW TO START: You know you need to pivot or maybe reinvent, but how? We talk about how to do that with Wendy and Dana’s 4-part Camp Reinvention process.

    IDENTIFYING YOUR SKILL SET

    WHAT WE CAN LEARN FROM WENDY AND DANA’S OWN CAREER REINVENTION STORIES

    WHY YOU NEED TO START BEFORE YOU THINK YOU ARE READY

    WHY CHANGE IS NOT ONLY DIFFICULT FOR THE PERSON CHANGING, BUT FOR EVERYONE IN HER NETWORK: and how to navigate those challenges.

    AN IMPORTANT TOOL FOR MAKING FRIENDS WITH THE VOICE INSIDE YOUR HEAD

    KEY TOPICS IN EPISODE 196/PART 2 OF THIS CONVERSATION:

    THE DOING TRAP: any why “busy” is not the same as making progress

    A PRODUCTIVITY TOOL THAT WORKS FOR EVERYONE: getting clear on WHY

    WHY MOMENTUM MATTERS

    REDEFINING SUCCESS: and the relationship between “success” and “why”

    THE “SHOULD-ING” TRAP

    This week, I tried something new and would love your feedback. Since the conversation with Wendy and Dan ran a bit long, I split it into two episodes 195 and 196 – both of which are available here or wherever you listen to podcasts. I’m hoping this approach will give you a little break to reflect on part one before diving into part two. But most of all, I would love to know what YOU think. So let me know.

    My biggest goal, as always, is to bring you great conversation and perspective that serves your interests, is helpful, meets you right where you are, and is a good investment of your time. So please be sure to send me some feedback — on this episode, this trial format, or anything else you think would be beneficial for me to hear to help me create even better content for YOU! I’d really appreciate it.

    EPISODE LINKS:

    Camp Reinvention

    Use this link

    Contact Dana & Wendy: hello@campreinvention.com

    Happy After 50 Facebook Group

    Freedom From What Keeps You Stuck, free e-book for listeners of She Said/She Said Podcast!

    FEEDBACK: I hope you found this investment of your time worthwhile and would love to hear your thoughts. DM me @lauraCoxKaplan on Instagram, LinkedIn, or Facebook. Or, use the contact link on shesaidshesaidpodcast.com or here — I’d love to hear from you!

    And, if you are feeling generous, please be sure to leave a review on iTunes or wherever you are listening to she said/she said podcast.

    AND, please don’t forget— Episode 196 is part 2 of a two-part conversation that begins in Episode 195!


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    The post Looking to reinvent or pivot? A few traps to avoid! Dana Hilmer & Wendy Perrotti, Part 2 of 2 – Episode 196 appeared first on She Said / She Said.


    Want to reinvent or pivot, but not sure where to begin? Camp Reinvention cofounders Dana Hilmer & Wendy Perrotti, Episode 195 (part 1 of 2) May 22, 2022
    Show notes

    TITLE: Want to reinvent or pivot, but not sure where to begin? [Part 1 of 2] Episode 195

    THIS WEEK’S TOPIC:

    It’s difficult to reinvent yourself even when you know you need to make a pivot or change. Change, afterall, is incredibly difficult. That’s why there are shelves and shelves and shelves of books on the topic, and an endless array of podcasts designed to help you master the art of change.

    Fact is, we weren’t wired for it. But, embracing it, leaning into it, and doing so with a mindset that’s focused on what we can learn and how we can grow is literally the key to living your fullest while finding and maximizing your God-given gifts and talents while also building some new ones!

    I know, friend, it is easier said than done! But, today’s guests will demystify a few aspects of personal reinvention and career pivots, and give you lots to think about while also giving you a few new tools to add to your personal tool kit!

    THIS WEEK’S GUESTS:

    Dana Hilmer and Wendy Perrotti are the co-founders of Camp Reinvention, a global company offering transformational programs, retreats, and community for women who are creating their next act.

    Wendy and Dana bring more than 30 years of coaching and training experience to Camp Reinvention and have been featured on hundreds of podcasts, television and radio shows. As a special treat for YOU, they are sharing their e-book “Freedom From What Keeps You Stuck,” for FREE! It’s terrific, and we discuss it in this two part conversation in Episodes 195 and 196.

    You can also join them in their free “Happy After 50” Facebook group.

    KEY TOPICS IN EPISODE 195:

    HOW TO START: You know you need to pivot or maybe reinvent, but how? We talk about how to do that with Wendy and Dana’s 4-part Camp Reinvention process.

    IDENTIFYING YOUR SKILL SET

    WHAT WE CAN LEARN FROM WENDY AND DANA’S OWN CAREER REINVENTION STORIES

    WHY YOU NEED TO START BEFORE YOU THINK YOU ARE READY

    WHY CHANGE IS NOT ONLY DIFFICULT FOR THE PERSON CHANGING, BUT FOR EVERYONE IN HER NETWORK: and how to navigate those challenges.

    AN IMPORTANT TOOL FOR MAKING FRIENDS WITH THE VOICE INSIDE YOUR HEAD

    This week, I’m trying something new and would love your feedback. Since the conversation with Wendy and Dan ran a bit long, I split it into two episodes 195 and 196, which will post a couple of days after. I’m hoping this approach will give you a little break to reflect on part one before diving into part two. But most of all, I would love to know what YOU think. So let me know.

    My biggest goal, as always, is to bring you great conversation and perspective that serves your interests, is helpful, hopefully meets you right where you are, and is a good investment of your time. So be sure to send me some feedback — on this episode, this trial format, or anything else you think would be beneficial for me to hear to help me create even better content for YOU! I’d really appreciate it.

    Episode 195 is part one of a two part conversation. Part 2 will be released later this week.

    EPISODE LINKS:

    Camp Reinvention

    Use this link

    Contact Dana & Wendy: hello@campreinvention.com

    Happy After 50 Facebook Group

    Freedom From What Keeps You Stuck, free e-book for listeners of She Said/She Said Podcast!

    FEEDBACK: I hope you found this investment of your time worthwhile and would love to hear your thoughts. DM me @lauraCoxKaplan on Instagram, LinkedIn, or Facebook. Or, use the contact link on shesaidshesaidpodcast.com — I’d love to hear from you! And, if you are feeling generous, please be sure to leave a review on iTunes or wherever you are listening to she said/she said podcast.

    AND, please don’t forget— part 2 of this conversation posts on Wednesday, in Episode 196!

    TAKE 3 MINUTES FOR AN AUDIENCE SURVEY: Please help us do a better job of creating content that is tailor-made for YOU by completing our audience survey.

    The post Want to reinvent or pivot, but not sure where to begin? Camp Reinvention cofounders Dana Hilmer & Wendy Perrotti, Episode 195 (part 1 of 2) appeared first on She Said / She Said.


    How to build more “learning agility,” and why! Ep 194 May 15, 2022
    Show notes

    TITLE: How to build learning agility, and why it matters, Episode 194

    THIS WEEK’S TOPIC:

    Developing a capacity for lifelong learning can lead to increased opportunities, not to mention can help you build and sustain greater influence!

    This week, I break down what lifelong learning looks like, the brain science behind it, and why it matters so much (including to potential employers and clients). I also share how you can develop more of it through some easy, daily habits.

    THIS WEEK’S GUEST:

    I’m solo this week!

    KEY TOPICS:

    “LEARNING AGILITY:” What is that? And why does Accenture CEO Julie Sweet put it at the top of her list of skills she’s looking for in new hires?

    HOW TO CREATE DAILY PRACTICES THAT SPARK CURIOSITY AND SUPPORT LEARNING AGILITY: I share 10 easy ways that work for me, but would love to hear any tips that you use as well.

    HOW TO BOOST THE VALUE FROM INFORMATION YOUR ALREADY REGULARLY CONSUME

    THE ROLE OF FAILURE: and how to ensure that its impact is ultimately useful and value-added, and (potentially) positive

    HOW A GROWTH MINDSET SUPPORTS GREATER LEARNING AGILITY

    WHY YOU SHOULD TALK ABOUT A PAST FAILURES IN A JOB INTERVIEW

    HOW LEARNING AGILITY AND CURIOSITY HELP YOU BUILD AND SUSTAIN INFLUENCE!

    EPISODE LINKS:

    Harvard Business Review: Julie Sweet, CEO Accenture, “Most Important Skills Job Seekers Need”

    Morgan Hutchinson, BURU Founder, Episode 193 on learning from failure

    “Mindset” by Professor Carol Dweck

    EPISODE SPONSOR: OSSA

    Episode 194 is supported by OSSA. To become an investor and support women podcasters through OSSA, check out: StartEngine.com/OSSA

    Also, be sure to check out my earlier conversation with OSSA founder Marla Isackson: Marla Isackson, CEO, OSSA, Episode 148

    FEEDBACK: I hope you found this episode and this investment of your time worthwhile and would love to hear your thoughts, including any additional ways that you build learning into your day and week. DM me @lauraCoxKaplan on Instagram, LinkedIn, or Facebook — I’d love to hear from you! And, if you are feeling generous, please be sure to leave a review on Itunes or wherever you are listening to she said/she said podcast.

    The post How to build more “learning agility,” and why! Ep 194 appeared first on She Said / She Said.


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