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    she persisted

    your life can change, even when you can’t imagine what better looks like yet.

    sadie sutton started she persisted at 15 while in intensive treatment for severe depression and anxiety. now 23 and a university of pennsylvania psychology graduate, she combines lived experience with evidence-based psychology to make the hard parts of mental health feel less confusing—and a little less lonely. today, she persisted is an nyt-recommended, top-charting gen z mental health podcast with 500k+ downloads.

    new episodes weekly for anyone struggling, supporting someone who is, or trying to understand themselves better.

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    113. How to Make New Friends, Overcome Loneliness, + Combat Social Anxiety with Friendship Expert Dr. Marisa Franco Sep 08, 2022
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    Today's guest is Dr. Marisa Franco—a psychologist, author, professor, and friendship expert. In this episode, we discuss the untrue beliefs we hold about platonic relationships, how loneliness prevents us from engaging in relationships, first steps to take in building relationships (and why it will scientifically turn out better than you think it will), how to build your social infrastructure, why early interactions are awkward, working through your social anxiety, and Dr. Franco's thoughts on intro/extroverts, friend groups, and best friends.

    Dr. Franco's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drmarisagfranco/

    Dr. Franco's Website: https://drmarisagfranco.com/

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    + Platonic by Dr. Franco

    + Attached by Amir Levine

    + All About Love by Bell Hooks

    + @daniellebayardjackson

    + @katvellos_author

    + @miriamkirmayer

    SHOP GUEST RECOMMENDATIONS: https://amzn.to/3A69GOC

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    📦This week's episode is brought to you by Amazon Prime Student. Start your 6-month free trial (and 50% off after your trial ends) and get FREE subscriptions to LinkedIn Premium, GrubHub+, Calm, Course Hero, 10% off Student Universe, and more! #ad #myprimestudent

    🛋This week's episode is sponsored by Teen Counseling. Teen Counseling is an online therapy program with over 14,000 licensed therapists in their network offering support with depression, anxiety, relationships, trauma, and more via text, talk, and video counseling. Head to teencounseling.com/shepersisted to find a therapist today!

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    © 2020 She Persisted LLC. This podcast is copyrighted subject matter owned by She Persisted LLC and She Persisted LLC reserves all rights in and to the podcast. Any use without She Persisted LLC’s express prior written consent is prohibited.


    112. Struggling with Depression as a Perfectionist: Dr. Margaret Rutherford on Perfectly Hidden Depression Aug 31, 2022
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    Today's guest is Dr. Margaret Rutherford—a psychologist, author, podcast host, and writer! We discuss Dr. Margaret's background in the mental health field, how she identified and coined the term "perfectly hidden depression," what perfectly hidden depression is, how perfectionism can cover up emotional pain, the implications of not expressing emotions, high-functioning vs. perfectly hidden depression, warning signs to keep be aware of, Dr. Margaret's healing process for depression, how you can support someone struggling, and so much more!

    My episode on the Self-Work Podcast: https://drmargaretrutherford.com/296-selfwork-teenage-depression-its-real-how-can-you-help-a-conversation-with-sadie-sutton/

    Dr. Margaret's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drmargaretrutherford/

    MENTIONED

    + Brené Brown's books

    + I Don't Want to Talk About It by: Terrence Real

    + What Made Maddy Run by: Kate Fagan

    + Questionaire

    SHOP GUEST RECOMMENDATIONS: https://amzn.to/3A69GOC

    EPISODE SPONSORS

    📦This week's episode is brought to you by Amazon Prime Student. Start your 6-month free trial (and 50% off after your trial ends) and get FREE subscriptions to LinkedIn Premium, GrubHub+, Calm, Course Hero, 10% off Student Universe, and more! #ad #myprimestudent

    🛋This week's episode is sponsored by Teen Counseling. Teen Counseling is an online therapy program with over 14,000 licensed therapists in their network offering support with depression, anxiety, relationships, trauma, and more via text, talk, and video counseling. Head to teencounseling.com/shepersisted to find a therapist today!

    LET'S CONNECT

    + Instagram (@shepersistedpodcast)

    + Website (shepersistedpodcast.com)

    + YouTube (Sadie Sutton: She Persisted Podcast)

    + Twitter (@persistpodcast)

    + Facebook (@shepersistedpodcast)

    + TikTok (@shepersistedpodcast)

    + inquiries@shepersistedpodcast.com

    © 2020 She Persisted LLC. This podcast is copyrighted subject matter owned by She Persisted LLC and She Persisted LLC reserves all rights in and to the podcast. Any use without She Persisted LLC’s express prior written consent is prohibited.


    111. What Does Therapy Mean to You? feat. Ashley Blaine Featherson-Jenkins Aug 19, 2022
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    Today's guest is Ashley Blaine Featherson-Jenkins—a Netflix star, producer, content creator, proud Howard University graduate, and the host of Trials To Triumphs on the OWN Network! In this episode, we discuss Ashley's background in the entertainment industry, her experience starting therapy, why it's important to redefine therapy so it meets your needs, why preventative mental health care is so essential for POC/females/teens, current and past traumas POC are collectively working through, opening yourself up in relationships, trials and triumphs in Ashley's life + relationship, advice for navigating difficult seasons of life, getting in touch with your "why" and life purpose, and building a gratitude practice.

    Ashley's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/trialstotriumphspod/

    MENTIONED

    + Entertainment Community (formerly The Actors Fund)

    + Halftime on Netflix

    + Trials to Triumphs Podcast

    + Dear White People on Netflix

    + Grand Crew

    + Run the World

    SHOP GUEST RECOMMENDATIONS: https://amzn.to/3A69GOC

    EPISODE SPONSORs

    🍓This week's episode is brought to you by Sakara. Sakara is a nutrition company that focuses on overall wellness, starting with what you eat. Use code XOSADIE at checkout for 20% off your first order!

    🛋This week's episode is sponsored by Teen Counseling. Teen Counseling is an online therapy program with over 14,000 licensed therapists in their network offering support with depression, anxiety, relationships, trauma, and more via text, talk, and video counseling. Head to teencounseling.com/shepersisted to find a therapist today!

    LET'S CONNECT

    + Instagram (@shepersistedpodcast)

    + Website (shepersistedpodcast.com)

    + YouTube (Sadie Sutton: She Persisted Podcast)

    + Twitter (@persistpodcast)

    + Facebook (@shepersistedpodcast)

    + TikTok (@shepersistedpodcast)

    + inquiries@shepersistedpodcast.com

    © 2020 She Persisted LLC. This podcast is copyrighted subject matter owned by She Persisted LLC and She Persisted LLC reserves all rights in and to the podcast. Any use without She Persisted LLC’s express prior written consent is prohibited.


    110. AMA: Habit Tracking, Mental Health Book Recommendations, + Treatment Storytimes - SOLO EP Aug 12, 2022
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    In today's ask me anything/Q+A/advice episode, I am answering your questions about advocating to your parents, knowing what type of therapy is right for you, hitting rock bottom, dealing with judgment, addressing the teen mental health crisis, supporting men struggling with their mental health, talking about mental health on social media, skills coaching, diary cards, troubled teen industry stories, reading recommendations and so much more!!

    MENTIONED

    + Anonymous topic submission form

    +EP #109 Understanding Depression: Causes, Cognitions, Comorbidity, + Coping Featuring UPenn Professor Ayelet Ruscio PhD

    + John Oliver - Mental Health Care

    + Bustle - Millennials May Be The “Therapy Generation,” But Gen Z Is Even More Open About Mental Health

    + This is Paris - Documentary

    + Troubled Teen Industry Episodes: #64 Sydney Montana, #62 Evan Haines, #41 Daisye

    + 3East McLean Hospital (highly recommend this residential program)

    + Shop reading recs

    SHOP GUEST RECOMMENDATIONS: https://amzn.to/3A69GOC

    EPISODE SPONSORs

    ☕️This week's episode is brought to you by Nutpods. Shop their delicious Vegan, Gluten-Free, Non-GMO, Kosher, and Whole 30 creamers today and use code 'SHEPERSISTEDPODCAST' at checkout for 15% off your order.

    🛋This week's episode is sponsored by Teen Counseling. Teen Counseling is an online therapy program with over 14,000 licensed therapists in their network offering support with depression, anxiety, relationships, trauma, and more via text, talk, and video counseling. Head to teencounseling.com/shepersisted to find a therapist today!

    LET'S CONNECT

    + Instagram (@shepersistedpodcast)

    + Website (shepersistedpodcast.com)

    + YouTube (Sadie Sutton: She Persisted Podcast)

    + Twitter (@persistpodcast)

    + Facebook (@shepersistedpodcast)

    + TikTok (@shepersistedpodcast)

    + inquiries@shepersistedpodcast.com

    © 2020 She Persisted LLC. This podcast is copyrighted subject matter owned by She Persisted LLC and She Persisted LLC reserves all rights in and to the podcast. Any use without She Persisted LLC’s express prior written consent is prohibited.


    109. Understanding Depression: Causes, Cognitions, Comorbidity, + Coping Featuring UPenn Professor Ayelet Ruscio PhD Aug 05, 2022
    Show notes

    Today we are going "into the classroom" with my Abnormal Psychology professor, Ayelet Ruscio! Dr. Ruscio's research a the University of Pennsylvania specializes in anxiety and mood disorders–their nature, classification, and comorbidity. (via psychology.sas.upenn.edu) We discuss why adolescence is such a crucial period for depression (and the role stress plays in this), the gender differences that contribute to higher rates of depression in females, tips to counteract rumination, ways teens can reduce their risk for mental illness, what is subclinical depression + ways to take action, why mental health skills are beneficial across the board, the relationship between stress and depression, common cognitive experiences in depression + how to counteract these, how and why comorbidity and cooccurrence of depression and other mental illnesses occurs, and how different are depression and anxiety really?

    MENTIONED

    + Constance Hammen Stress Generation

    SHOP GUEST RECOMMENDATIONS: https://amzn.to/3A69GOC

    EPISODE SPONSOR

    🍓This week's episode is brought to you by Sakara. Sakara is a nutrition company that focuses on overall wellness, starting with what you eat. Use code XOSADIE at checkout for 20% off your first order!

    🛋This week's episode is sponsored by Teen Counseling. Teen Counseling is an online therapy program with over 14,000 licensed therapists in their network offering support with depression, anxiety, relationships, trauma, and more via text, talk, and video counseling. Head to teencounseling.com/shepersisted to find a therapist today!

    LET'S CONNECT

    + Instagram (@shepersistedpodcast)

    + Website (shepersistedpodcast.com)

    + YouTube (Sadie Sutton: She Persisted Podcast)

    + Twitter (@persistpodcast)

    + Facebook (@shepersistedpodcast)

    + TikTok (@shepersistedpodcast)

    + inquiries@shepersistedpodcast.com

    © 2020 She Persisted LLC. This podcast is copyrighted subject matter owned by She Persisted LLC and She Persisted LLC reserves all rights in and to the podcast. Any use without She Persisted LLC’s express prior written consent is prohibited.


    108. Michael Slepian PhD on The Psychology of Secrets + How to Be More Vulnerable Jul 28, 2022
    Show notes

    Today's guest is Michael Slepian—the Sanford C. Bernstein & Co. Associate Professor of Leadership and Ethics at Columbia University, a recipient of the Rising Star Award from the Association for Psychological Science, the leading expert on the psychology of secrets, and the author of The Secret Life of Secrets: How Our Inner Worlds Shape Well-Being, Relationships, and Who We Are. We discuss what qualifies something as a secret, the most common secrets people keep, the psychology of secret-keeping, personal/relationship/identity consequences of secrets, the pros and cons of confiding in someone else, why being authentic will almost always be a positive experience, tips to increase your vulnerability, and when you should keep a secret.

    MENTIONED

    + The Secret Life of Secrets: How Our Inner Worlds Shape Well-Being, Relationships, and Who We Are

    + http://keepingsecrets.org/

    SHOP GUEST RECOMMENDATIONS: https://amzn.to/3A69GOC

    EPISODE SPONSOR

    🍓This week's episode is brought to you by Sakara. Sakara is a nutrition company that focuses on overall wellness, starting with what you eat. Use code XOSADIE at checkout for 20% off your first order!

    🛋This week's episode is sponsored by Teen Counseling. Teen Counseling is an online therapy program with over 14,000 licensed therapists in their network offering support with depression, anxiety, relationships, trauma, and more via text, talk, and video counseling. Head to teencounseling.com/shepersisted to find a therapist today!

    LET'S CONNECT

    + Instagram (@shepersistedpodcast)

    + Website (shepersistedpodcast.com)

    + YouTube (Sadie Sutton: She Persisted Podcast)

    + Twitter (@persistpodcast)

    + Facebook (@shepersistedpodcast)

    + TikTok (@shepersistedpodcast)

    + inquiries@shepersistedpodcast.com

    © 2020 She Persisted LLC. This podcast is copyrighted subject matter owned by She Persisted LLC and She Persisted LLC reserves all rights in and to the podcast. Any use without She Persisted LLC’s express prior written consent is prohibited.


    107. Working Through Difficult Emotions and Suicidal Thoughts feat. Liz + Mollie Jul 21, 2022
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    TW for suicidal thoughts ~42 minutes into this episode

    Today's guests are Liz Fosslien and Mollie West Duffy, the co-authors of the WSJ bestseller No Hard Feelings: The Secret Power of Embracing Emotion at Work and Big Feelings: How to Be Okay When Things Are Not Okay. We discuss why the 7 "big feelings" (burnout, perfectionism, comparison, uncertainty, anger, regret, + despair) are so difficult to navigate and tips on working through them, why it's so important to identify the emotions you're feeling, tips to lean into the emotional experience to understand what your emotions are trying to tell you, recovering from suicidal ideation (+ what to say to someone in this headspace), and advice on supporting someone struggling with these feelings.

    Liz + Mollie's Website: https://www.lizandmollie.com/

    Liz + Mollie's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lizandmollie/

    This week's DBT skill is Cope Ahead (as mentioned in this convo + at the end of the episode in more depth). Learn more HERE!

    MENTIONED

    + No Hard Feelings: The Secret Power of Embracing Emotion at Work

    + Big Feelings: How to Be Okay When Things Are Not Okay

    SHOP GUEST RECOMMENDATIONS: https://amzn.to/3A69GOC

    EPISODE SPONSOR

    🍓This week's episode is brought to you by Sakara. Sakara is a nutrition company that focuses on overall wellness, starting with what you eat. Use code XOSADIE at checkout for 20% off your first order!

    🛋This week's episode is sponsored by Teen Counseling. Teen Counseling is an online therapy program with over 14,000 licensed therapists in their network offering support with depression, anxiety, relationships, trauma, and more via text, talk, and video counseling. Head to teencounseling.com/shepersisted to find a therapist today!

    LET'S CONNECT

    + Instagram (@shepersistedpodcast)

    + Website (shepersistedpodcast.com)

    + YouTube (Sadie Sutton: She Persisted Podcast)

    + Twitter (@persistpodcast)

    + Facebook (@shepersistedpodcast)

    + TikTok (@shepersistedpodcast)

    + inquiries@shepersistedpodcast.com

    © 2020 She Persisted LLC. This podcast is copyrighted subject matter owned by She Persisted LLC and She Persisted LLC reserves all rights in and to the podcast. Any use without She Persisted LLC’s express prior written consent is prohibited.


    106. Dr. Judy Ho on Why We Self-Sabotage + How to Stop Jul 10, 2022
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    This week's guest is Dr. Judy Ho—a licensed and triple board-certified Clinical and Forensic Neuropsychologist, a tenured Associate Professor at Pepperdine University, television and podcast host, and published author. (bio via drjudyho.com) We discuss why she started specializing in self-sabotage, what exactly self-sabotage is and why we do it, the 4 factors that predispose people to self-sabotage, red flags to be aware of, how to determine if your goals are realistic, values-based work, the first step to take in your self-sabotage journey, and why negative emotions are necessary.

    Dr. Judy Ho's Website: https://www.drjudyho.com/

    Dr. Judy Ho's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drjudyho/

    This week's DBT Skill is the Chain Analysis skill! Learn more HERE.

    MENTIONED

    + Stop Self-Sabotage by: Dr. Judy Ho

    + Values-Based Card Sort

    + The Life Quiz

    SHOP GUEST RECOMMENDATIONS: https://amzn.to/3A69GOC

    EPISODE SPONSOR

    🛋This week's episode is sponsored by Teen Counseling. Teen Counseling is an online therapy program with over 14,000 licensed therapists in their network offering support with depression, anxiety, relationships, trauma, and more via text, talk, and video counseling. Head to teencounseling.com/shepersisted to find a therapist today!

    LET'S CONNECT

    + Instagram (@shepersistedpodcast)

    + Website (shepersistedpodcast.com)

    + YouTube (Sadie Sutton: She Persisted Podcast)

    + Twitter (@persistpodcast)

    + Facebook (@shepersistedpodcast)

    + TikTok (@shepersistedpodcast)

    + inquiries@shepersistedpodcast.com

    © 2020 She Persisted LLC. This podcast is copyrighted subject matter owned by She Persisted LLC and She Persisted LLC reserves all rights in and to the podcast. Any use without She Persisted LLC’s express prior written consent is prohibited.


    105. Mental Health Advice for College Students: Tips to Master Your Routine, Relationships, Rest, Recreation, and Resources Jun 30, 2022
    Show notes

    In today's solo episode I am giving you my tips on how to maintain your mental health as a college student! After wrapping up my freshman year at the University of Pennsylvania, I've put together this comprehensive episode to help you feel prepared to navigate college life! I've broken it down into 5 categories: routine, relationships, rest, recreation, and resources! I tell you everything I wish I knew before starting my freshman year and cover topics like choosing classes, taking mental health days, avoiding burnout, roommates, making friends, naps, hobbies, free time, exercise, and more! At the end of the episode, I answer YOUR questions about college + mental health!

    MENTIONED

    + Asana

    + Notion

    + Ep. 104 Sleep Deprivation, Insomnia, + Night Routine Tips for Teens feat. Generation Sleepless Authors Heather Turgeon + Julie Wright

    + Ep. 39 Your Foolproof Guide to a Good Night's Sleep (+ 2 Guided Sleep Meditation Practices)

    + Atomic Habits by James Clear

    + Ep. 94 Staying Healthy in College: Managing Sleep, Stress, Exercise, Nutrition, Substances, and More feat. Jill + Dave Henry

    + Ep. 55 Mental Health Advice for High School Students

    SHOP GUEST RECOMMENDATIONS: https://amzn.to/3A69GOC

    EPISODE SPONSOR

    🛋This week's episode is sponsored by Teen Counseling. Teen Counseling is an online therapy program with over 14,000 licensed therapists in their network offering support with depression, anxiety, relationships, trauma, and more via text, talk, and video counseling. Head to teencounseling.com/shepersisted to find a therapist today!

    LET'S CONNECT

    + Instagram (@shepersistedpodcast)

    + Website (shepersistedpodcast.com)

    + YouTube (Sadie Sutton: She Persisted Podcast)

    + Twitter (@persistpodcast)

    + Facebook (@shepersistedpodcast)

    + TikTok (@shepersistedpodcast)

    + inquiries@shepersistedpodcast.com

    © 2020 She Persisted LLC. This podcast is copyrighted subject matter owned by She Persisted LLC and She Persisted LLC reserves all rights in and to the podcast. Any use without She Persisted LLC’s express prior written consent is prohibited.


    104. Sleep Deprivation, Insomnia, + Night Routine Tips for Teens feat. Generation Sleepless Authors Heather Turgeon + Julie Wright Jun 23, 2022
    Show notes

    Today's guests are Heather Turgeon and Julie Wright—the psychotherapists, sleep experts, and the authors of The Happy Sleeper and Generation Sleepless. In this episode, we discuss why teenagers are experiencing more sleep deprivation than any other demographic, the "perfect storm" leading teens to lose sleep, what exactly happens when you sleep + why it's so important that you get enough rest, at-home steps you can take to improve your sleep hygiene, night routine tips, how to combat insomnia, tips to get up in the morning, and so much more! If you are a teen or parent of a teen who struggles with sleep (like most of us do) this episode is for you and will provide so much value!

    MENTIONED

    + The Happy Sleeper website: https://www.thehappysleeper.com/

    + The Happy Sleeper Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thehappysleeper/

    + Generation Sleepless: Why Tweens and Teens Aren't Sleeping Enough, and How We Can Help Them

    SHOP GUEST RECOMMENDATIONS: https://amzn.to/3A69GOC

    EPISODE SPONSORS

    🍓This week's episode is brought to you by Sakara. Sakara is a nutrition company that focuses on overall wellness, starting with what you eat. Use code XOSADIE at checkout for 20% off your first order!

    ☕️This week's episode is brought to you by Nutpods. Shop their delicious Vegan, Gluten-Free, Non-GMO, Kosher, and Whole 30 creamers today and use code 'SHEPERSISTEDPODCAST' at checkout for 15% off your order.

    LET'S CONNECT

    + Instagram (@shepersistedpodcast)

    + Website (shepersistedpodcast.com)

    + YouTube (Sadie Sutton: She Persisted Podcast)

    + Twitter (@persistpodcast)

    + Facebook (@shepersistedpodcast)

    + TikTok (@shepersistedpodcast)

    + inquiries@shepersistedpodcast.com

    © 2020 She Persisted LLC. This podcast is copyrighted subject matter owned by She Persisted LLC and She Persisted LLC reserves all rights in and to the podcast. Any use without She Persisted LLC’s express prior written consent is prohibited.


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