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    Second Life

    Hosted by Who What Wear co-founder Hillary Kerr, Second Life spotlights successful women who have made major career changes. Guests share lessons they’ve learned through fearlessly daring to pivot, and how they’ve used skills from their “first lives” to navigate their winding career journeys.

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    Alice Bell: Astrologer, Author, and British Vogue Contributor Dec 04, 2023
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    After graduating with her master's degree in fashion journalism and racking up industry internships at publications like British Vogue and Women’s Wear Daily, Alice Bell set out to become a fashion editor. She landed a coveted role as a fashion assistant at U.S. Vogue, and while working there, started spending her free time dissecting her love life through the lens of astrology. While her interest in editorial work waned, she quickly became the unofficial office astrologer for Vogue employees, and wanting to share her knowledge with a larger community, she began offering readings for free on her social media. Soon, Bell realized that astrology was her calling and quit her job to pursue it full-time. Flash forward to today, and Alice is a full-time astrologer, author of Trust Your Timing, podcast host, and, in a full-circle moment, the resident astrologer at British Vogue.


    Who What Wear with Hillary Kerr: Who What Wear Beauty: The Holiday Party Makeup Guide Nov 29, 2023
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    This week, Who What Wear Beauty Director Erin Jahns is back just in time to prepare us for December’s many celebratory events. The holiday season is the perfect time to experiment with new beauty looks, and whether you’re a beauty pro looking to re-create the year’s biggest runway trends or a makeup novice trying to elevate your look in one simple step, Erin’s got you covered. Plus, she’s recommending which brands to shop for the most festive products and sharing tips for ensuring your makeup lasts all night long.


    Lindsay Holden: Co-Founder of Odele Nov 27, 2023
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    In 2020, Lindsay Holden, alongside her Co-Founders Britta Chatterjee and Shannon Kearney, set out to disrupt the haircare space with the launch of their clean, inclusive, and salon-grade haircare brand, Odele. Derived from the Norwegian phrase for “to share,” Odele can be used by anyone who shares a shower, regardless of age or gender. Despite launching amid a global pandemic, the company reached profitability in the first six months of business, and today, the line is on shelves at CVS, Ulta, and Target. But before getting Odele on major retailer shelves, Lindsay worked on the other side: she spent eight years working at Target in various buyer and merchandising manager roles within the domestics and home department, learning what makes a great product. Even before that, she spent her early career as an account manager, first at the mattress company Serta, and later, at image-licensing business Corbis.


    Who What Wear with Hillary Kerr: Laura Brown on Inviting People In, Helping Out, and Collaborating With Sézane on the French Enough Collection Nov 22, 2023
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    Laura Brown is a journalist, a former editor in chief of InStyle, the founder of LB Media, and the BFF everyone wishes they had. After losing her EIC position due to InStyle’s print shutdown in 2022, Brown was suddenly free to do whatever she wanted—namely bridging the gap between her fashion world and various community-building programs. Among her other initiatives to “meddle for good,” Brown recently became chair of (RED)’s Creative Council, where she rallies her friends in fashion and Hollywood to join the fight against AIDS. Plus, she launched a collaboration with the dreamy French brand Sézane unofficially called French Enough, an ode to the French-girl aesthetic with a hint of LB’s trademark mischief.


    Gara Post: The Now Massage Co-Founder and Chief Creative Officer Nov 20, 2023
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    Back in 2015, Gara and her team at Post Investment Group recognized the lack of affordable yet elevated massage experiences—and The Now was born. With chic design and exceptional massages at the forefront of their business, they opened the first boutique as a calming oasis within Los Angeles, and over the last eight years, The Now has grown to over 50 locations, launched a line of wellness products, and introduced a membership model. But Gara’s not stopping there: in 2022, using her learnings from The Now, she created Bowie Barker, a full-service pet grooming and self-wash business. But before she was growing two businesses simultaneously, she applied her keen eye for design and sharp attention to detail to making jewelry. What started as a creative outlet during her years spent as an entertainment industry assistant quickly became her buzzy, celeb-favorite line, Gara Danielle.


    Who What Wear with Hillary Kerr: The 2023 Luxury Report: The Brands, It Items, and Trends Nov 15, 2023
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    This week, Hillary sat down with Kristen Nichols, Who What Wear's associate director of special projects. Kristen put together this year's Luxury Report, which details the brands and celebrities influencing designer shopping, the most coveted high-end items of 2023, and, of course, the ins and outs of the quiet-luxury trend. Plus, Kristen shares how to source sold-out items like the Alaïa fishnet flats, and Hillary explains her theory on why all fashion leads back to the Olsen twins.


    Heidi Caillier: Interior Designer and Author Nov 13, 2023
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    Though Heidi is a highly sought-after interior designer now, she didn’t predict she’d end up in the design world. After graduating with a masters in international public health, she spent her early career working at a medical clinic in the Gambia. But when she returned to the U.S. to continue working, she was disappointed by how administrative many of the stateside roles were and began a quest to find a new career. She tried a variety of career paths including bartending, acupuncture school, and teaching scuba, but she still couldn't find anything that felt right to her. That is, until she began blogging about design. Through her blog, Heidi landed her first job at a design firm, and eventually, she set out to create a firm of her own. Today, her firm works on projects across the country, and just this September, Heidi debuted a book called Memories of Home, which details 12 of her incredible projects.


    Who What Wear with Hillary Kerr: Mara Hoffman on the Evolution of Her Brand and Using Discomfort as a Catalyst for Change Nov 08, 2023
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    Mara Hoffman began her eponymous brand in 2000 by designing and selling one-of-a-kind, handmade garments out of her New York apartment. Twenty-three years later, she's still known for making gorgeous statement pieces with bold colors and prints, but she continues to evolve her approach toward sustainable design and manufacturing. Hoffman recently partnered with textile-to-textile recycling company Circ to release a groundbreaking dress made from 50% recycled textile waste, and she is this year's CFDA Environmental Sustainability Award honoree. This week, Editor in Chief Kat Collings sat down with Hoffman to discuss designing from a place of honesty, the "change or die" mentality, and where they hope fashion is headed.


    Vicky Tsai: Tatcha Founder Nov 06, 2023
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    Vicky Tsai founded her skincare company, Tatcha, with the goal of helping heal people’s skin and soul. But while Vicky’s a major player in the beauty space now, it took years of trial and error to find work that matched her values. She first began her career on Wall Street as a derivatives trader at Merrill Lynch in New York City, but after witnessing 9/11 firsthand, she left her job to attend Harvard Business School for a fresh start. She interned at SK-II, then took a job at Starbucks in China, and later joined a tech startup focused on sustainability. Even with a successful career, Vicky still struggled to find her purpose, while simultaneously dealing with acute dermatitis on her skin. Then, 10 years into her corporate position, she decided to choose her own happiness. With no plan and a mountain of debt, she quit her job and began traveling. While visiting Kyoto, she learned about the beauty practices of geisha, and soon afterward, her skin was healed. She knew she had to find a way to bring her learnings to the masses, and with the help of geisha and cultural advisors, Tatcha was born.


    Who What Wear with Hillary Kerr: Priscilla Costume Designer Stacey Battat on Re-Creating Iconic Looks and Channeling ’50s, ’60s, and ’70s Fashion Nov 01, 2023
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    Stacey Battat is a costume designer and longtime collaborator of director Sofia Coppola, known for her work on films like The Bling Ring and The Beguiled. But most recently, Battat took on the huge undertaking of crafting the looks for A24’s newly released biographical drama, Priscilla. Based on Priscilla Presley’s 1985 memoir, Elvis and Me, Coppola’s Priscilla, which stars Cailee Spaeny and Jacob Elordi, depicts the couple's epic yet tumultuous relationship, this time from Priscilla’s perspective. From the late ’50s to the early ’70s, Battat had a ton of ground—and fashion eras—to cover when it came to costume design. She’s here to talk about how wardrobe choices impact character development, what type of research is involved in telling true stories, and why having a solid team is of the utmost importance.


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