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    School of War – Nebulous Media

    In School of War, CBS News National Security Analyst and Free Press columnist Aaron MacLean sits down with secretaries of state, top military historians, war planners, and key political decision-makers to help understand the lessons of war.

    Tune in as School of War takes you to the front lines.

    Aaron MacLean is a former senior fellow at Hudson Institute. He has worked as a foreign policy advisor and legislative director to Sen. Tom Cotton of Arkansas and spent seven years in the U.S. Marine Corps.

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    Ep 266: Blake Seitz & Mike Watson—Were the Founders Isolationists? Jan 16, 2026
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    Blake Seitz, Content Strategist at Palantir Technologies, and Mike Watson, Executive Director at The Alexander Hamilton Society, join the show to discuss America’s relationship with the world at the time of the Founding Fathers.

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    02:45 18th Century geopolitical landscape

    06:25 Yorktown

    11:17 Diplomacy of the Founders

    16:23 Bold rhetoric

    19:37 Federalists vs. Anti-Federalists

    25:45 Washington’s legacy

    32:42 The roots of isolationism

    36:38 Parallels and changes

    44:16 What does it mean to be an American?

    47:20 A grounding in history

    Read more - 1776: The Beginnings of American Exceptionalism Abroad


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    Ep 265: Mark Dubowitz on Is Iran Next? Jan 12, 2026
    Show notes

    Mark Dubowitz, CEO of FDD, joins the show to bring us up to speed on widespread Iranian protests, the chances of American or Israeli intervention, and what intervention might achieve.

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    02:15 Will we strike?

    05:34 New Iran talks?

    07:03 Nuclear concessions?

    10:35 Intervention possibilities

    15:10 The Shah’s son and the Islamic regime

    24:28 How do these protests compare to the past?

    34:29 Public perceptions


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    Ep 264: Mark Montgomery on Seizing Venezuela’s Shadow Fleet Jan 08, 2026
    Show notes

    Mark Montgomery, senior director of the Center on Cyber and Technology Innovation at FDD and retired U.S. Navy rear admiral, joins the show to discuss Venezuela’s shadow fleet, the cyber component of the Maduro raid, and the future of the U.S. Navy.

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    03:04 Shadow Fleets

    06:06 Ship Hunting

    10:07 Coast Guard

    12:35 Leverage and Sanctions

    18:37 Planning the Maduro Raid

    24:57 How We Use Cyber

    28:45 Types of Risk

    31:50 State of the Navy

    36:56 Return of the Battleship?


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    Ep 263: Elliott Abrams on the Venezuela Raid and Risks Ahead Jan 05, 2026
    Show notes

    Elliott Abrams, senior fellow for Middle Eastern studies at the Council on Foreign Relations and U.S. Special Representative for Venezuela and Iran from 2019 to 2021, joins the show to discuss Venezuela and what might happen next.

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    02:04 Snatch and Grab

    05:50 Intelligence Operations

    12:04 Oil

    16:50 Holding the Country Together

    24:16 Risks & Mistakes

    30:48 Blockade

    33:54 Hard To Leave

    39:11 Not Iraq

    41:48 Cuba

    42:21 The Iranian Regime


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    Ep 262: Mark Jones Jr. on Special Air Operations and American Military Dominance Jan 02, 2026
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    Mark Jones Jr., chief pilot of experimental flight test with the Honda Aircraft Company and recently retired U.S. Air Force test pilot and special operations commander, joins the show to talk about the nature of special air operations and the extraordinary air raid that kicked off Desert Storm.

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    02:45 9/11

    05:58 Test Pilot

    11:52 Special Air Operations

    17:54 Two Vastly Different Experiences

    21:24 Kabul

    24:18 Desert Storm

    32:30 Harder to See, Not Invisible

    34:46 Battle Damage

    39:55 September 1990

    42:21 Party In 10

    45:05 Navigation Technology


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    Ep 261: Behnam Ben Taleblu on the (Next!) Iran-Israel War Dec 30, 2025
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    Behnam Ben Taleblu, Senior Director (Iran Program) and Senior Fellow at FDD, joins the show to talk about how Iran has worked to reconstitute its missile program since the summer, and what the U.S. and Israel might do to stop it.

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    01:43 Vessel Seizure

    05:45 Making a Ballistic Missile

    13:06 What Modern War Looks Like

    17:19 Iran’s Missile Program

    21:42 Evolving Assessment

    26:24 Relevance for U.S. Defense Planning

    30:00 Disconnected Victories

    35:04 Lessons from the 10/07 War

    39:31 Bad Choices for Iran


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    Ep 260: Kevin Passmore on the Maginot Line and the Battle of France Dec 26, 2025
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    Kevin Passmore, professor of History at Cardiff University and author of The Maginot Line: A New History, joins the show to talk about the most elaborate fortification system of the 20th century and why it failed.

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    02:03 Attacking the Maginot Line

    05:53 Fortifications and Warfare

    11:48 Flexibility vs Depth

    15:38 A Total Commitment to War

    19:49 French Defensive Concepts

    22:42 Living in the Line

    27:31 Decision in Belgium

    36:22 Breaking the Enemy’s Will

    39:36 Ukrainian Fortifications


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    Ep 259: Christian Brose on Rethinking How We Fight Dec 23, 2025
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    Christian Brose, President and Chief Strategy Officer at Anduril Industries and author of The Kill Chain: Defending America in the Future of High-Tech Warfare, joins the show to talk about American industry and the future of war.

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    02:26 Erosion of Military Advantage

    11:11 The Nature of the Problem

    16:42 Consensus and Urgency

    21:01 Learning the Right Lessons in Ukraine

    25:32 Scaling Up for the Offense

    31:23 Leveraging AI for Defense

    38:07 Will Liberal Arts and Humanities Win?

    41:56 Arsenal-1

    47:31 Silicon Valley and Defense

    52:24 Collaborative Combat Aircraft


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    Ep 258: Eric Cline on the Collapse of Civilizations Dec 19, 2025
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    Eric Cline, professor of Classical and Ancient Near Eastern Studies and of Anthropology at The George Washington University and author of 1177 B.C.: The Year Civilization Collapsed, joins the show to break down the collapse of the Bronze Age civilization and why it matters today.

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    02:57 Writing History for All

    04:51 The Three Age System

    10:32 Tin: The Oil of the Ancient World

    11:37 Archeology in the Future

    13:22 Bronze Age Society

    21:02 The Beginning and End of History

    26:07 The Sea Peoples

    32:36 The Collapse

    35:00 The Mystery of the Exodus

    40:53 Resilience and Regeneration Post-Collapse


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    Ep 257: Elliott Abrams on the Venezuela Crisis Dec 16, 2025
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    Elliott Abrams, senior fellow for Middle Eastern studies at the Council on Foreign Relations and U.S. Special Representative for Venezuela and Iran from 2019 to 2021, joins the show to discuss events in the Caribbean.

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    01:56 Venezuela Through Multiple Administrations

    06:05 Maduro

    11:53 Trump to Biden

    17:56 U.S. Military Capabilities

    24:05 Political Justifications

    30:11 The Venezuelan Opposition

    35:56 Machado in Hiding

    41:27 Worst Case Scenarios


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