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    School of War – Nebulous Media

    In School of War, CBS News National Security Analyst and Free Press columnist Aaron MacLean sits down with secretaries of state, top military historians, war planners, and key political decision-makers to help understand the lessons of war.

    Tune in as School of War takes you to the front lines.

    Aaron MacLean is a former senior fellow at Hudson Institute. He has worked as a foreign policy advisor and legislative director to Sen. Tom Cotton of Arkansas and spent seven years in the U.S. Marine Corps.

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    Ep 276: Charlie Laderman on Regime Change in Iran Feb 20, 2026
    Show notes

    Charlie Laderman, associate professor at the University of Florida’s Hamilton School for Classical and Civic Education, joins the show to discuss parallels between Reagan’s policy towards Cold War Poland and the crisis in Iran today.

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    02:45 Comparing Iran and Poland

    05:56 Reagan’s plan

    10:15 Reheating the Cold War

    12:26 ’81 coup

    15:53 Sanctions and pressure

    20:19 Constant agitation

    27:38 End of the Cold War

    34:45 The violence of the Iranian regime

    37:55 Structural differences

    44:32 Exiled opposition


    Read the article discussed in the episode - Freedom for Iran: Learning From U.S. Support for Polish Anti-Communists in the 1980s

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    Ep 275: Michael Baumgartner on Marco Rubio’s Speech and the Future of Europe Feb 17, 2026
    Show notes

    Rep. Michael Baumgartner of Washington State’s 5th Congressional District joins the show to give his key takeaways from the Munich Security Conference.

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    01:34 Getting to Munich

    05:22 European attitude

    14:20 AOC and recalibration

    17:50 Germany returns

    23:59 Rubio’s speech

    30:23 Ukraine

    39:22 Iran and a “good” deal


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    Ep 274: Lawrence Freedman on Strategists and Ukraine Feb 13, 2026
    Show notes

    Lawrence Freedman, Emeritus Professor of War Studies at King’s College London and author of On Strategists and Strategy: Collected Essays, 2014-2024, joins the show to talk about a lifetime among strategists, and to give an update on the war in Ukraine.

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    02:34 Essay writing

    07:49 Michael Howard

    18:42 Colin Gray

    23:06 Timeless aspects of strategy

    26:00 The goal of SDI

    36:40 Tactics

    41:20 Differences between tactics and strategy

    45:01 Ultimate objectives

    50:08 Sensible uses of nuclear weapons

    52:24 Thatcher

    53:59 Harsh winter in Ukraine


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    Ep 273: Matthew Kroenig on China’s Nuclear Test Feb 09, 2026
    Show notes

    Matthew Kroenig, Professor in the Department of Government and the Edmund A. Walsh School of Foreign Service at Georgetown University, joins the show to talk about the new nuclear age the world is entering.

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    Times

    03:27 Secret Chinese testing

    07:35 Seismic monitoring and de-coupling

    11:40 U.S. testing plan

    15:30 Why might we need more nuclear weapons?

    18:01 New START

    21:23 How many nukes are needed?

    27:04 If deterrence fails

    30:20 Limits, if any


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    Ep 272: Beatrice Heuser on Why Leaders Make Bad Decisions Feb 06, 2026
    Show notes

    Beatrice Heuser, Distinguished Professor at the Brussels School of Governance in the Free University of Brussels and author of Flawed Strategy: Why Smart Leaders Make Bad Decisions, joins the show to discuss decision-making and strategic thinking.

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    02:58 Economists and strategy

    07:59 Acting rationally vs logically

    15:00 Mirror imaging

    20:01 How should we study strategy?

    27:17 Denial

    32:18 Strategic intelligence failures

    36:15 Hidden causes

    38:57 Everyone does it


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    Ep 271: Geoff Ball on the Future of America’s Infantry Feb 03, 2026
    Show notes

    Geoff Ball, U.S. Marine Corps infantry officer, staff director for the Naval Academy’s Leadership Education and Development Division and Executive Editor of The Connecting File, joins the show to discuss the radical changes and surprising continuities in how America’s grunts will fight.

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    02:25 The Connecting File

    06:22 How is the infantry doing?

    14:10 Companies of the future

    23:22 Information and trust

    29:57 Innovative spirit

    33:30 Light Armored Recon

    39:05 Drone battalions

    42:24 Learning the right lessons from Ukraine


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    Ep 270: David Shedd on China’s Spies Jan 30, 2026
    Show notes

    David Shedd, former Acting Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency and author of The Great Heist: China’s Epic Campaign to Steal America’s Secrets, joins the show to discuss Chinese spy craft.

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    02:05 Early days

    06:49 CIA

    09:28 Sandinistas and revolutionaries

    15:14 IC preparation

    18:35 A great awakening

    26:11 Industrial espionage

    30:50 National Intelligence Estimate

    34:11 The MSS

    44:19 The culture of the 18th Bureau

    50:17 Battlefield consequences

    55:20 Counterarguments


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    Ep 269: Walter Russell Mead on Donald and Davos and Greenland, Oh My! Jan 26, 2026
    Show notes

    Walter Russell Mead, Alexander Hamilton Professor of Strategy and Statecraft at the University of Florida's Hamilton Center and columnist for The Wall Street Journal, joins the show to discuss foreign policy in the Age of Trump.

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    Times

    03:15 An extraordinary week

    05:06 The Transatlantic relationship

    09:02 Turning to China

    16:10 Greenland

    27:03 Post-presidency Trump

    32:25 Harder now

    43:08 Zelenskyy


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    Ep 268: Seth Jones on America’s Defense Industrial Crisis Jan 23, 2026
    Show notes

    Seth Jones, president of the Defense and Security Department and Harold Brown Chair at CSIS, joins the show to talk about how America has resurrected its defense industrial base in the past and why it should be doing so now.

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    02:55 The British in the 1930s

    05:58 Roosevelt’s decision

    09:48 Re-orientation

    13:59 The B-29

    16:00 Victory in Iraq

    27:54 Skunkworks

    31:30 Xi comes into power

    35:07 Disadvantages

    39:07 What needs to be done?

    44:28 Fighting for 5%

    47:43 Culture shift

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    Ep 267: Michael Lurie on Israel’s New Laser Weapon Jan 20, 2026
    Show notes

    Michael Lurie, CEO and President of Rafael USA, joins the show to explain how High Energy Lasers and Iron Beam will change missile & air defense, not to mention warfare itself, forever.

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    Times

    02:34 The evolution of missile defense

    05:09 Iron Dome & Iron Beam

    08:04 How do lasers work?

    15:16 Limitations

    20:07 Integrating systems

    25:28 Future applications

    30:09 Lessons from field testing

    40:15 American interest


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