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    School of War – Nebulous Media

    In School of War, CBS News National Security Analyst and Free Press columnist Aaron MacLean sits down with secretaries of state, top military historians, war planners, and key political decision-makers to help understand the lessons of war.

    Tune in as School of War takes you to the front lines.

    Aaron MacLean is a former senior fellow at Hudson Institute. He has worked as a foreign policy advisor and legislative director to Sen. Tom Cotton of Arkansas and spent seven years in the U.S. Marine Corps.

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    The Future of Warfighting Technology Is Now with Aviv Shapira Apr 17, 2026
    Show notes

    Aviv Shapira, the co-founder and CEO of XTEND, joins the show to discuss his journey from competitive drone racing to building groundbreaking defense technology. How are drone swarms changing warfare? What are the ethical implications of AI weaponry? What happens if this technology falls into the wrong hands? And what comes next?

    01:58 Aviv’s background04:46 Replay technologies08:28 VR Messi08:58 Xtend description09:55 Drone racing12:56 Headset importance14:13 Ender’s Game17:02 AI drones21:34 Tunnel warfare27:11 Diversity of drone needs30:41 Drone swarms34:16 Human machine teaming37:10 Rule of three41:52 Ethical questions44:11 Future of munitions45:26 Xtend business model49:23 Future of this technology52:22 Tech in enemy hands

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    How Trump’s Blockade of Iran Actually Works with Sal Mercogliano Apr 15, 2026
    Show notes

    Sal Mercogliano, professor of history at Campbell University and host of the What’s Going on with Shipping YouTube channel, joins the show once again to discuss the naval blockade on the Strait of Hormuz imposed by United States Central Command. How might this blockade unfold? Is it a tactic to bring Iran back to the negotiating table, or a step that risks igniting a new wave of conflict? We do not know how this game will end, but one thing is certain: The entire world is watching this critical waterway.

    03:13 How is the blockade functioning

    08:52 Trump’s messaging

    10:54 Blockade is negotiating tactic

    11:40 Carrier strike groups

    12:12 The U.S. Navy’s run through the strait

    12:39 Iranian mines

    15:09 The Islamabad process

    17:50 American convoying

    20:01 Iranian shadow fleet

    21:25 Potential blockade tactics

    23:20 Boarding vessels

    26:54 Merchant marine involvement

    28:34 The China factor

    33:08 Economic game of chicken

    38:26 A return to violence


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    The Strategic View From the Baltic Sea with General Michael Claesson Apr 14, 2026
    Show notes

    General Michael Claesson is Sweden’s Chief of Defence Staff and Supreme Commander of the Swedish Armed Forces. How did Russia’s annexation of Crimea change Sweden’s global strategy? Is Russia weaker than it appears? How strong is the American alliance with Europe? With the tectonic plates of war shifting beneath our feet, the stakes are high and the future of NATO hangs in the balance.


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    02:46 Swedish view of the world

    04:19 Crimea annexation

    08:50 Geopolitical logic of joining NATO

    10:10 Military background

    13:48 The war in Ukraine

    17:53 Lessons from the American Civil War

    19:40 Drone combat

    25:09 Command versus autonomy

    27:09 European defense against Russia

    33:14 Contested Kaliningrad

    36:00 Russia’s vulnerabilities

    37:19 Russia’s greyzone warfare

    41:11 Europe’s role in global security

    44:26 American and European alliance

    45:00 The case for NATO

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    Danger Lurks In J.D. Vance’s Negotiations with Iran Apr 09, 2026
    Show notes

    Mark Dubowitz, chief executive of FDD, joins Aaron to discuss the ceasefire negotiations between the U.S. and Iran. What are the fears surrounding the talks? Where are the two sides close on the proposed ceasefire, and where are they miles apart? What should we look for to indicate how the talks are going? Looming over everything is the question of whether the negotiating table can, at times, be more dangerous than the battlefield.

    Times:

    02:03 Nature of the ceasefire

    04:22 Do we have the upper hand?

    08:04 Trump vs. Iranian trap

    09:31 Iran’s fragile position

    11:49 Broader American strategy

    14:59 Negotiation demands

    18:57 Lebanon factor

    22:48 Who is Mohammad-Bagher Ghalibaf?

    27:45 J.D. Vance’s analogy

    30:44 Strait of Hormuz

    33:03 Recession fears

    36:29 Hormuz circumvention

    38:05 Battle for Hormuz

    39:00 Global chokepoint lessons

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    Is the Strait of Hormuz Closed Forever? with Sal Mercogliano Apr 07, 2026
    Show notes

    Sal Mercogliano, professor of history at Campbell University and host of the What’s Going on with Shipping YouTube channel, joins us to discuss the strategic importance of the Strait of Hormuz, highlighting the complexities of navigating the Strait under normal and elevated circumstances. The conversation delves into the geopolitical tensions involving Iran, the impact on global shipping, and the broader implications for international trade and security. What are the challenges posed by the current conflict, the role of insurance in maritime operations, and the potential long-term effects on global trade?

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    Times

    02:45 A regular day

    07:51 Shipping lanes

    11:48 In the Persian Gulf

    19:13 What is actually happening?

    27:00 Opening the Strait

    32:30 Strategic costs

    38:05 Keeping things moving

    44:58 Breakdown of the Freedom of the Seas

    48:32 Ghost fleets

    53:13 Other chokepoints


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    America’s Incredible Rescue of its Downed Airmen in Iran and Trump’s Strategic Options Ahead with Rich Goldberg & Garrett Exner Apr 06, 2026
    Show notes

    Rich Goldberg, senior advisor at FDD, and Garrett Exner, adjunct fellow at Hudson Institute, join the show to breakdown the dramatic events of the weekend and take a look at the road ahead in the Iran War. We discuss the American F-15E shot down in Iran, and the subsequent rescue of its crew by special operations forces near Isfahan. The conversation delves into the details of the rescue operation, President Trump's demands regarding the reopening of the Strait of Hormuz, and the potential actions the United States might take if Iran does not comply.

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    Times

    03:00 Rescue

    12:47 Potential nuclear raid sites

    15:28 President’s deal terms

    26:50 Targets and regime change

    35:32 Ground options

    38:28 Information gaps and what comes next


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    Trump Says We’re ‘Winning’ in Iran. It’s More Complicated. Apr 03, 2026
    Show notes

    The Strait of Hormuz is closed. Iran’s nuclear program survives. And while the regime has been weakened, it remains intact. So what has President Trump accomplished—and what comes next in the war? Today on School of War, we’re doing something a little different. Instead of sitting in the interviewer’s chair, as I usually do – I’m the one being interviewed. I joined Rafaela Siewert of The Free Press to talk through my current thinking on the war in Iran.

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    Times

    02:03 Trump’s speech

    05:22 Escalation

    10:10 Goals

    12:25 Risk and scale

    15:15 Kinds of surprise

    17:37 Misreading the Iranians

    22:10 15 Points

    25:49 Opening the Strait of Hormuz

    29:24 Branding

    32:44 Oil

    37:15 Kharg Island

    41:35 Regime alteration

    44:20 Time and resources

    48:49 Balance

    50:11 Trump, MAGA, and the Right


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    Even as America Fights Iran, It’s Not Ready for China—with Eyck Freymann Mar 31, 2026
    Show notes

    Eyck Freymann, Hoover Fellow at Stanford University and author of Defending Taiwan: A Strategy to Prevent War with China, joins the show to explain the complexities of deterrence against China, the strategic challenges in the Indo-Pacific, and the implications of the wars in Ukraine and Iran for Taiwan. We break down China’s plausible gray-zone tactics like quarantine and coercive mobilization, and how these tools, if unchecked, could lead to a total economic or military break. Where are the vulnerabilities in the U.S. defense industrial base, in naval and trade logistics, and in missile magazine depth?

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    Times

    01:45 No path out

    04:13 Maintaining balance

    10:18 Kasserine lessons

    16:51 China’s possible moves in the gray-zone

    22:53 More stockpiling

    27:33 Invasion

    34:21 Decapitation and bombardment

    39:20 An economic and political problem

    46:42 The Summit


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    How Can America Defeat Iran? With John Spencer Mar 27, 2026
    Show notes

    John Spencer, Chair of Urban Warfare Studies at the Modern War Institute at West Point and host of the Urban Warfare Project podcast, joins the show to break down how the U.S. and Israel are executing a 'neurological' campaign—using precision, targeted strikes on the Iranian Regime and its center of gravity. A strategy that’s as old as Clausewitz but more relevant than ever. How are the U.S. and Israel balancing the psychological impact of their precision strikes in tandem with the more traditional threat of brute force? What might this approach reveal about today’s conflicts, and how might it influence the next global showdown?

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    Times

    03:25 Targeting as strategy

    10:40 Neurological strike

    20:16 An evolution in military affairs

    26:30 Adaptation

    30:48 Center of gravity

    39:37 The missile program


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    Are We About to Send the Marines Into Iran? With Rich Goldberg and Garrett Exner Mar 23, 2026
    Show notes

    Rich Goldberg, senior advisor at FDD, and Garrett Exner, adjunct fellow at Hudson Institute, break down what’s really happening behind the headlines — from covert strikes on Iran’s nuclear sites to the fragile possibility of reopening the Strait of Hormuz. How are the U.S., Israel, and Iran navigating the negotiations, and are there any operational knock-on effects? What are the realities and complexities of potential ground invasions, targeted raids, and covert operations that could shape the next phase of conflict? What are the risks of seizing Kharg Island or launching strikes on Iran’s underground nuclear facilities? How does the Iranian regime’s use of civilian infrastructure complicate precise strikes, and how do intelligence gaps and political signals influence U.S. decisions? What is the strategic significance of Kharg Island, what are the challenges of amphibious operations along Iran’s long coastline, and what are the odds of a ground campaign in the coming weeks?

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    02:42 Negotiations

    09:17 U.S. options

    15:35 Ground forces

    18:53 M.E.U

    25:35 Kharg Island

    37:53 Silence on the nuclear program

    45:13 JSOC

    53:02 Acting with speed


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